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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: faffi on June 09, 2026, 01:01:01 AM
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The more I reflect on it, the more certain am I that having the ability to comfortable stand up while riding is of huge importance. At least for me. Why the MT-07 allow this so well is hard for me to comprehend, because the pegs are placed fairly high and the bars are not high, but standing is still reasonably natural, helped no doubt by the pegs being placed reasonably far back. The primary issue with the Roamer - and my homegrown Virago standard - is that the pegs are too far forward. Even my old Tenere suffer from the same thing. This cause the rider, in this case me, to have to lean back, hanging from the bars. Hard enough at standstill, very hard at speed and over time.
Since I spend 8-10 hours per day standing beside my desk at work, I can say that if there was no windforce to deal with, I would much rather stand up when riding for transport, only sitting down when attacking corners. Much more comfortable. Regardless, I will make sure that whatever bike I buy next will allow me a comfortable stand-up riding position. I thank the ride on my son's MT for bringing this so clearly to my attention.
Anybody else on this forum that stand up in order to refresh themselves on longer rides?
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Stand up, sit down, slide forward, slide backwards, dangle legs off pegs, stretch legs forward, feet up on pillion pegs, feet on rider pegs, one hand off the bars then the other, twist at the hips, stretch lower back and repeat. Sitting static locked in one position for a long period of time and I get stiff and sore. Moving around like an agitated 5 year old keeps the blood flowing and muscles from locking in position. My biggest day was 1144 miles in around 18 hours and at the end of the day the only thing hurt was my shoulders from having my arms up on the handle bars. Got up the next day ready to ride. Moving around was key.
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I do on my DR650. My California is overall uncomfortable so I avoid longer trips all together. I will gladly take the DR out on a 10 hour day however it took lowered foot pegs and offset risers on the handlebars to get there.
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I stand up on my v85 all the time. My v7 sometimes but it isn't as comfy as the v85. In the US they offered a foot peg relocation kit for the v9 because of location gripes. Possibly it is still available as a spare part or you might find a kit here from someone.
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It's one of my biggest gripes about Harleys. You can't get your ass out of the seat! They insist on using those damn forward controls because it looks "cool." One of the reasons I kept my old FXR for so many years was because it was one of the very few "big twins" that had foot pegs where they belonged and I could get my butt out of the seat for railroad crossings and such. I remember reading about a rider who, the very first thing he did when he sat on a motorcycle was stand up. If he couldn't stand up on the bike, he wouldn't buy it.
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It's one of my biggest gripes about Harleys. You can't get your ass out of the seat! They insist on using those damn forward controls because it looks "cool." One of the reasons I kept my old FXR for so many years was because it was one of the very few "big twins" that had foot pegs where they belonged and I could get my butt out of the seat for railroad crossings and such. I remember reading about a rider who, the very first thing he did when he sat on a motorcycle was stand up. If he couldn't stand up on the bike, he wouldn't buy it.
I've owned 7 Harleys.
Never had one I couldn't stand when riding if I wanted too... Though it was a little harder with the floorboard models
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I've yet to find a Harley I could stand :wink:
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I've owned 7 Harleys.
Never had one I couldn't stand when riding if I wanted too... Though it was a little harder with the floorboard models
Having owned several myself, I consider a "pull-up" by using the handlebars quite a bit different than simply standing up on the pegs. And even then, I'd like to know how anyone can "stand" on a bike like the Harley Breakout
(https://i.ibb.co/0RBQKdsN/Breakout.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0RBQKdsN)
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Having owned several myself, I consider a "pull-up" by using the handlebars quite a bit different than simply standing up on the pegs. And even then, I'd like to know how anyone can "stand" on a bike like the Harley Breakout
(https://i.ibb.co/0RBQKdsN/Breakout.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0RBQKdsN)
I didn't say I could stand on anything with true forwards....I never owned one with that for a reason.
And I could stand on both my Road Kings without pulling up.
Especially the police one with the 32" seat height.
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Every so often while riding, I get a Charlie horse in my hip muscle and the only way I can relieve it is to stand up on my 1200 sport for a few seconds, and that always takes care of it. I sit back down and continue my ride.
Does anyone else get those Charlie horse cramps in their upper hip muscles?
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Every so often while riding, I get a Charlie horse in my hip muscle and the only way I can relieve it is to stand up on my 1200 sport for a few seconds, and that always takes care of it. I sit back down and continue my ride.
Does anyone else get those Charlie horse cramps in their upper hip muscles?
I'm starting too .... But it's my knees more than that.
I'm more likely to get that Charlie horse just throwing the leg over but it's more convenient to stand at that moment.
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Well, one of the things I like about my Road King is I can roll for miles and miles and not get uncomfortable. Never had a need to stand up for any reason. Between the highway pegs, crash bars and floor boards my leg angle and foot placement options are almost infinite.
Speaking of standing on pegs….For some reason, whenever I’m sitting on the sidewalk on Moab’s Main Street knocking back a Shiner…watching the hordes of ADV riders standing on the pegs of their spotless GS/Tenere’s/Afrika Twins/KTM’s etc. slowly parading from stop light to stop light through town it always reminds me of that scene from The Good, The Bad and the Ugly where Blondie and Tuco encountered the Union Army after a hard and long ride and the Union officer beats the dust off his uniform.
I guess you have to be there in person to see the similarities.
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Every so often while riding, I get a Charlie horse in my hip muscle and the only way I can relieve it is to stand up on my 1200 sport for a few seconds, and that always takes care of it. I sit back down and continue my ride.
Does anyone else get those Charlie horse cramps in their upper hip muscles?
On some bikes more than others. At the time l turned 18 and took the required riding lessons for obtaining a license, l rode a 1981 GSX400, same bike as the GS450 apart from the engine, and had hip cramps often. These days, 40 plus years later, l get them in feet, calves and sometimes in my hamstrings mostly at night. Really painful at times.
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Dual Sports are made to stand up on to traverse rough ground. Bar and peg position make it easy to do. I could do it on my Goldwing as well, sometimes to let the wind blow the rain off my face shield. Sportbikes not so easy with old knees.
Pete
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On some bikes more than others. At the time l turned 18 and took the required riding lessons for obtaining a license, l rode a 1981 GSX400, same bike as the GS450 apart from the engine, and had hip cramps often. These days, 40 plus years later, l get them in feet, calves and sometimes in my hamstrings mostly at night. Really painful at times.
I fought that for over 50 years as did my grandfather. The 100% cure for me was lots more water every day (I shoot for 3 liters) and Liquid IV electrolyte supplement pack (get the sugar free) in a glass of water every day. This was taught to me by a western hunting guide where it almost cures altitude sickness too.
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Every so often while riding, I get a Charlie horse in my hip muscle and the only way I can relieve it is to stand up on my 1200 sport for a few seconds, and that always takes care of it. I sit back down and continue my ride.
Does anyone else get those Charlie horse cramps in their upper hip muscles?
I find that stretching and hydration helps. I never get it in my left hip, but the right with all the injuries and replacement joint will flare up on occasion. I
I'm wrapping up a 10 day 3K miles and 12 State ride, was brutal the first day or so, especially on the Norge with the low seating position. I definitely need to have the Corbin rebuilt or order a Russel Day long. I only have the problem on the Breva/Norge chassis, and occasionally because of having to lift so high to get my foot on the pegs. A 2" lift would be ideal, even with the 1" dropped KD pegs.
Standing up has never been my thing, but I'll do it on occasion. Is SUPER easy on the V85, not so much on the Norge.
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I fought that for over 50 years as did my grandfather. The 100% cure for me was lots more water every day (I shoot for 3 liters) and Liquid IV electrolyte supplement pack (get the sugar free) in a glass of water every day. This was taught to me by a western hunting guide where it almost cures altitude sickness too.
Glad you have found a cure for you :thumb: Unfortunately, I have not observed the same effect.