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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: VA Sean on March 08, 2006, 11:28:31 AM
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We did the whole single malt scotch thing - but I am betting that we all drink way more beer than anything else.
To that length...
What is your favorite beer?
For many years mine was Sierra Nevada Pale Ale... but then I put on 30 lbs.
Now, I regularly buy Harp, Bass and Grolsch.
But my favorite these days, I'd have to say, is Grolsch.
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Stella...nice and crisp
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grolsch my favorite import,
lienies, sam adams or rolling rock small brewery
bud when you want something brewed in vats the size of rhode island.
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We did the whole single malt scotch thing - but I am betting that we all drink way more beer than anything else.
To that length...
What is your favorite beer?
For many years mine was Sierra Nevada Pale Ale... but then I put on 30 lbs.
Now, I regularly buy Harp, Bass and Grolsch.
But my favorite these days, I'd have to say, is Grolsch.
My liquor cabinet has the following:
Elijah Craig,
Woodford Reserve,
Maker's Mark,
Seagram's 7,
Crown Royal,
Canadian Club,
Captain Morgan,
Captain Morgan Silver,
Agavero,
Heradura Gold.
Ecco Domani Pinot Grigio.
No beer.
I drink beer when I have to. I prefer Whisky, Bourbon or Tequila.
:)
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Okay - you may be the exception, but I believe the rule will be that the rest of us consume enough beer to make up for your lack thereof!
Besides - how can you drink tequila without an ice cold Pacifico in your hand?
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Any Belgian beer made by monks is at the top of the list. Yuengling is"Americas oldest breweries" (Pitts., Penn.), and their lager is quite tastey. For cheap stuff, it gets two thumbs up! Yuengling is not distributed everywhere, so I have friends that make their way to Penn. and pick me up some now and again. :P
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Tanglefoot. Old Speckled Hen, Nelson's Blood and Shepard and Neame Porter, in England
Murphy's and Guiness, in Ireland
Trapiste and Lieffe, in Belgium
Carlsberg Elephant, in Denmark
Rolink, in Germany.
I like to drink the best beer available from the country I am in rather than import my own. The exception would be Sweden, the beer is weak, tasteless and very expensive, I normally import Danish beer to there.
I am mostly a beer drinker, but I drink wine in France or Italy becuase it's good and they don't make good beer.
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yes
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Mike-
Okay - you may be the exception, but I believe the rule will be that the rest of us consume enough beer to make up for your lack thereof!
Besides - how can you drink tequila without an ice cold Pacifico in your hand?
Tequila shots. Mmmm !
(Beer gives me a headache. Don't know why.)
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this beer yet. Free beer! ;)
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Any Belgian beer made by monks is at the top of the list. Yuengling is"Americas oldest breweries" (Pitts., Penn.), and their lager is quite tastey. For cheap stuff, it gets two thumbs up! Yuengling is not distributed everywhere, so I have friends that make their way to Penn. and pick me up some now and again. :P
It is not only avaliable at stores but it is on tap at most bar in Charlotte, so no trip to Pa needed. ;D
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I like to drink the best beer available from the country I am in rather than import my own. The exception would be Sweden, the beer is weak, tasteless and very expensive, I normally import Danish beer to there.
I am mostly a beer drinker, but I drink wine in France or Italy becuase it's good and they don't make good beer.
I like variety, so just buying American beers (even microbrews) isn't going to cut it.
As for Italy, I dunno, Morretti and Peroni are not bad. Again, there big market (relatively) beers, but they have a flavor of their own that goes well with many Italian dishes!
Kev
Have you tried their La Rossa (Morretti) it is very good. It just became avaliable in NC since they passed the higher alchol content law.
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MooseHead beer (of course ;) ).
And afterwards: One tiny little wafer thin mint.....
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Harpoon IPA..... For about 8 yrs now
I never get anything else unless there's a problem.
Previous to that was Bass....previous to that Hinekin
Guiness ...always
Pilsin Urquell.....Best of the Green Bottle beer...with Grolsh right up there..and Becks
The stuff from Italy my buddy drinks...Guy with a hat on.. on the label
Spaten....mmm
I have alot of fun drinking LaBatts Blue when I'm up north or Yulenger when I'm down south...
(observing local customs)
Enjoy a real cold Bud on a hot day
Sammy Adams, Long Triail, Ship Yard Sierra...yea thanks...don't mind if I do.
Gimme my Harpoon though...Deep, Rich...satisfying.. warm or cold. (Good tank bag beer)
Beer's come a long way in this country....when the same thing happens with bikes we'll
all be gettin' our propper respect...DOH!
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Heineken, Guinness Extra Stout, Old Speckled Hen and when I'm over that way, Sunday River Black Bear Porter... there are a couple of local brew pubs that offer nice Halloween Ales and Pumpkin Ales but for the most part the former mentioned brews...
For "Other" stuff I like Tanqueray and Fresca... the occasional shot of Schnapps with a beer chaser....
Once in a great while a scotch and light water.... or on the the rocks...
That about covers it.... ::)
rd
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this beer yet. Free beer! ;)
;D ;D ;D
Right "Free" beer is GREAT...mmm...got any? ;D
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Whatever I have in my kegs in the basement.
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Guinness...
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Once you've had a Guinnes at a good Pub in Dublin, nothing tastes as good ever again. Of course if you go to Cork, you'll say the same about Murphey's or in the North, Beamish. I occasionally buy Guinness and Murpheys in the pub draught cans here, but it is nothing like getting it fresh.
More often here I'll have Red Hook ESB or IPA. Sometimes Gordon Biersch Marzen. Any full bodied microbrew that I know hasn't been sitting on the shelf for the last year and a half.
Can't drink Bud, Miller, or any of the mass brews. I don't consider anything made with corn as beer.
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When at the appropriate place: Great Lakes Brewing Dortmunder Gold
When at the appropriate Mexican place: Tecate..... in a CAN
otherwise...
Champagne or Champagne Light.....
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High Life for thise that are not familiar with the Champagne of beers
MGD light is good too.
Damn, you guys will spend good hard earned money on the expensive stuff, but won't spend $10 on an oil filter ;D
Now I knoe why you guys use JB weld, gotta save the cash for all those Stouts and Porters you buy.... ;D
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Can't drink Bud, Miller, or any of the mass brews. I don't consider anything made with corn as beer.
Mostly rice actually.
When I was in Dublin years back, I was amazed at the number of Bub light drinkers ::) Guiness brewing I believe licenses it. I think I settled on Kilkenny or some such. I need to go back and check it out.....
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Now I knoe why you guys use JB weld, gotta save the cash for all those Stouts and Porters you buy.... ;D
No -- life is just too damn short for cheap/nasty beer. These days, anyway.
When I was younger, however, I'd put a 12 pack of Natty Light cans in my golf bag and drink my way around the golf course. Didn't matter that the things got warm by the end of a 5 hours round.
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Keep it simple Coors Light so I can save my money for MC parts or Keystone Ice if I need to save for a new bike. Don't drink beer much except with a few friends now and then.
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Any of the amber or darker Gorden Biersch beers, under their name or Trader Joe's; Black Toad, Kronenbourg, Dos Eqquis Amber, Sam Adams. If I gotta drink something lighter, Pilsner Urquell, Grolsch, Bass.
And for their really great names as well as taste, Old Peculiar from Northern England or Scotland (doesn't seem to be available in the US anymore), Moose Drool from Montana/Wyoming.
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Damn, you guys will spend good hard earned money on the expensive stuff, but won't spend $10 on an oil filter ;D
Now I knoe why you guys use JB weld, gotta save the cash for all those Stouts and Porters you buy.... ;D
;D :D ;D :D ;D
Hey Jeff, I just saw a post on the CWBB from a "Jeff in Ohio" this morning (regarding the new Buell and regarding the MGS01). You?
Kev
but of course.....
The Buell guys attitudes remind me of those of a typical female engineering student. anybody that has dealt with them would understand. always feel like they have something to prove, even when they don't. it is a very tiring attitude....
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We did the whole single malt scotch thing - but I am betting that we all drink way more beer than anything else.
To that length...
What is your favorite beer?
For many years mine was Sierra Nevada Pale Ale... but then I put on 30 lbs.
Now, I regularly buy Harp, Bass and Grolsch.
But my favorite these days, I'd have to say, is Grolsch.
Well, I cant get involved in this one! You see my problem was anything with alcohol in it was fair game. ALL THE TIME!! Not no more though. One day at a time! :D
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COLD!!
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Anything as long as its chased by Jack Daniels.
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And for their really great names as well as taste, Old Peculiar from Northern England or Scotland (doesn't seem to be available in the US anymore), Moose Drool from Montana/Wyoming.
Old Peculiar (Theakston's) is canny but my favourites at the moment are Bishop's Finger( Shepherd Neame in kent and Fuller's ESB, i also brew my own woodforde's wherry (which is quite a dark bitter- or at least it is the way i make it) .
Moose Drool is an amazing name , not sure if it sounds too appetizing mind :-\
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Frank Smith's Ultra ;)
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I enjoy a nice cold Tecate about twice a week. Could it be the memories of the girlfriend I had in Tijuana in my younger days?
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I should have known there were a bunch of beer snobs here. I drink Miller High Life in the winter and Moto Guzzi Draft (MGD) in the summer, mainly. :-*
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Red necks, white socks,, and Blue Ribbon beer . ;D
Best on draft.
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Just can't acquire a taste for Guiness. Bass, XX Dos Amber, Tecate, (no limes please!) . Lately- Budweiser Select!
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NFL eh? I like it! Been wondering about the best way of telling them to keep it! If you gotta stick a lime in it to make it drinkable, get something else.
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BRADOR . FROM QUEBEC CANADA
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Well, I cant get involved in this one! You see my problem was anything with alcohol in it was fair game. ALL THE TIME!! Not no more though. One day at a time! :D
Way to go Bob! More power to you! ;) :)
There was a line in the movie "Tender Mercies" where the gal says to Robert Duvall: "I don't think drinkin' gets you anywhere." So true! 8)
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Room temp Guinness.
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Texas Pride on sale for $.99 a six pack. Pour a two cans in a big glass, add a slug of Tabasco and a raw egg. Drink it before the egg hits the bottom.
Fortunately, 20 years ago I choose between being a full time drunk or riding a Moto Guzzi sober. It is fine with me if you drink. It is no fun going to funerals, so be responsible.
Ken
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Seattle has so many fine micro-breweries that the best beer available often depends on what neighborhood you are in. The stuff brewed right around hte corner from your barstool is usually the best in the bar.
That said, the best of the lot is Diamond Knot IPA. If there's a better beer in the world, I have never experienced it.
I have lived where breweries are few, and I pity all of you who have to live that way . . .
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We did the whole single malt scotch thing - but I am betting that we all drink way more beer than anything else.
To that length...
What is your favorite beer?
For many years mine was Sierra Nevada Pale Ale... but then I put on 30 lbs.
Now, I regularly buy Harp, Bass and Grolsch.
But my favorite these days, I'd have to say, is Grolsch.
Well, I cant get involved in this one! You see my problem was anything with alcohol in it was fair game. ALL THE TIME!! Not no more though. One day at a time! :D
Well Bob I know from wence you come and I after twenty some odd years I will have a beer It has to be realy cold and anything over two compleatly bloats me ;D but the real downer is the fact that I will not ride my Billybob after drinking any alchahol PERIOD!!
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We're not beer snobs, but life is too short for bad beer. If its made with corn or rice, it isn't really beer... :D
Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is a "readily available" favorite of mine, but Wet Mountain IPA from the Mi Amici brew pub in Salida Colorado is my favorite American beer.
Favorite German Beer, Paulaner Salvator
Favortie English/Irish beer, Young's ESB
Favorite beer, Augustin Blonde brewed by Van Steenberg Brewery, Ertvelde, Belgium (hard to find in the USA)
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MMMMMM Beer ( wonder when the Doughut thread will start ;) )
Me I like Hobgoblin, Theakston's Old Peculiar, Young's Double Chocolate Stout, and I have become partial to some really cheap German beer we get over in a store called Lidls ( cant remember the name of the beer but it is dirt cheep). Of course it takes a fair bit to beat a good Guiness
Im really looking forward to the Scottish rally here to try some of this Jacobite 8% stuff that Traquair Brewer makes
http://www.traquair.co.uk/brewery.html
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Carlsberg Elephant, in Denmark
Jeez that stuff is lethal Ragnar. I remember having 2 1/2 of the dumpy bottles then rapidly sliding of my bar stool into a gibbering wreck on the floor. Ahhhh happy days ;)
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A GOOD HARVEY'S FOR ME ...A LOCAL SUSSEX BREW
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I, as a general rule, don't like beer, but there is at least one exception that I've found:
Fat Tire.
Unfortunatly, they don't ship east of the Mississippi, so if anyone's heading down I75 on FL from west of the river, give me a PM. :D
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Shiner Bach and St Arnold's are great.
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Boulevard Pale Ale, brewed in Kansas City. Actually all of the Boulevard Ales are great!
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I, as a general rule, don't like beer, but there is at least one exception that I've found:
Fat Tire.
Unfortunatly, they don't ship east of the Mississippi, so if anyone's heading down I75 on FL from west of the river, give me a PM. :D
1 of my sons swears by Fat Tire(or is it Bicycle Tire). It's OK, IMHO, but I drink beer more for the buzz than it's taste. However, I prefer smoother tasting beers. I went to a beer tasting day @ Calistoga?(Napa Valley) years ago where I could try whatever I wanted for $20. I liked a smooth wheat beer there best, but like I say, it's the buzz that I'm really looking for. I like to ride after 2-3 beers. Makes things more enjoyable, IMHO. ;)
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Shiner Bach and St Arnold's are great.
Cant argue with logic like that. think globally, drink locally.
St Arnies makes a true nectar of the gods IPA called Elyssa .
Shiner bock is a Texans birthright. Stiff of legends.
Fat tire is usually in the fridge too.
If you can find Omegang, get some. Best of the Belgians I have sampled.
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Guinness. Almost anything else tastes like it was brewed through a horse. 8)
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What is your favorite beer?
For many years mine was Sierra Nevada Pale Ale... but then I put on 30 lbs.
Is that what caused it?!!! ;D
Ever tried Abbot Ale (English)?
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This thread is bringing back some good memories,
Bishop's Finger, lovely, especially on draught but hard to find, more often in bottles. Managed 6 pints one night, but got taken home.
Harveys, always go to the pub down the road for Harvey's Old Ale, at a rally in Eastbourne.
I will be at the Scottish Rally, but if that Jacobite Ale is 8%, I am going to treat that with a lot of respect. I prefer to slide gracefully to the floor than collapsing in a heap.
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I'll second what Greg F. said about Seattle. We have a lot of interesting choices around here, but I have to say that me two perrenial favorites come from my days spent in S.F. I have a warm spot in my belly for Anchor Steam beer and Sierra Nevada Pale Ale.
As of late, I've been enjoying the heck out of some fine Belgian ales like Madshus, Tripel Carmaliet, Chimay Blue label, Delerium Tremens and La Fin du Monde (Canada's version). The downside is that all that delicious yeast wreaks havoc on my innards.
Can't go wrong with the Duwamish Manhattan though...
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This thread is bringing back some good memories,
Bishop's Finger, lovely, especially on draught but hard to find, more often in bottles. Managed 6 pints one night, but got taken home.
Harveys, always go to the pub down the road for Harvey's Old Ale, at a rally in Eastbourne.
I will be at the Scottish Rally, but if that Jacobite Ale is 8%, I am going to treat that with a lot of respect. I prefer to slide gracefully to the floor than collapsing in a heap.
This reminds me of a German brew I drank occasionally at university, Erst Kulmbacher something-or-other... EKU 28 - That stuff would knock your dick in the dirt!
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Bishop's Finger, lovely, especially on draught but hard to find, more often in bottles.
I prefer to slide gracefully to the floor than collapsing in a heap.
B.F. on draught ... i'd think i was dead and had gone to heaven - wish you could get it round here
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I'll second what Greg F. said about Seattle. We have a lot of interesting choices around here, but I have to say that me two perrenial favorites come from my days spent in S.F. I have a warm spot in my belly for Anchor Steam beer and Sierra Nevada Pale Ale.
As of late, I've been enjoying the heck out of some fine Belgian ales like Madshus, Tripel Carmaliet, Chimay Blue label, Delerium Tremens and La Fin du Monde (Canada's version). The downside is that all that delicious yeast wreaks havoc on my innards.
Can't go wrong with the Duwamish Manhattan though...
YUCHHH............. ....Anchor Steam is soooo nasty !! I have a BMW friend that swears by that stuff, and unfortuntely 1 day it was my only option. ::) SNPA isn't that smooth either, IMHO. :P
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Beer does seem popular over here.
For me I enjoy a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, a Guinness Extra Stout, or an Anchor Steam or Anchor Liberty Ale. Almost any beer can hit the spot sometimes. I don't drink as much of it as I used to, and I usually have a glass or two of local red wine with dinner, then try to call it quits. Gettin old you know, if affects the sleep in a negative fashion if I drink too much.
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This is one of my favorites. http://www.arrogantbastard.com/
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1 of my sons swears by Fat Tire(or is it Bicycle Tire). It's OK, IMHO, but I drink beer more for the buzz than it's taste. However, I prefer smoother tasting beers. I went to a beer tasting day @ Calistoga?(Napa Valley) years ago where I could try whatever I wanted for $20. I liked a smooth wheat beer there best, but like I say, it's the buzz that I'm really looking for. I like to ride after 2-3 beers. Makes things more enjoyable, IMHO. ;)
As if you would know a good beer if it weren't pissed down your throat...
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When it's cold(3 weeks a year), I like Guiness w/Harp
Otherwise, St.Pauli Girl, Beck's, Grolsch, Bass Ale,
Old Speckled Hen,
Peroni Nastro Azzuro (PBR-Peroni Blue Ribbon)
Shiner Bock, St. Arnold(locals)
SNPA, Fat Tire, Dos XX Lager(yard beer)
Or Free.
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Henry Weinhard's Premium Draught Root Beer. Best I've ever had.
Hope I'm not sucking the fun from this thread, just no hard stuff for me.
Steve.
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I used to live in Hiroshima and the Japanese beer companies would produce seasonal and specialty flavors that would go on sale for a hsort time and then disappear forever. I remember Kirin marketed a killer black & tan and Suntory make some great summer ales. The beer gardens were awesome there. Imagaine all you can drink beer and sushi, BBQ, shrimp, crab, and cute drunk chicks for $25.
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I used to live in Hiroshima and the Japanese beer companies would produce seasonal and specialty flavors that would go on sale for a hsort time and then disappear forever. I remember Kirin marketed a killer black & tan and Suntory make some great summer ales. The beer gardens were awesome there. Imagaine all you can drink beer and sushi, BBQ, shrimp, crab, and cute drunk chicks for $25.
Ok, 2 outta 3 aint bad.
I am allergic to seafood, but not the others!
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1 of my sons swears by Fat Tire(or is it Bicycle Tire). It's OK, IMHO, but I drink beer more for the buzz than it's taste. However, I prefer smoother tasting beers. I went to a beer tasting day @ Calistoga?(Napa Valley) years ago where I could try whatever I wanted for $20. I liked a smooth wheat beer there best, but like I say, it's the buzz that I'm really looking for. I like to ride after 2-3 beers. Makes things more enjoyable, IMHO. ;)
As if you would know a good beer if it weren't pissed down your throat...
Ooooohh, I musta hit a nerve. Like motorcycles, beer preferences are totally subjective. ;D
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Red Stripe
Tusker (Kenya)
Fullers ESB
Charles Wells IPA
I used to be a Charles Wells Pub Landlord!!!!
They had Red Stripe on Draft.......delicio us but deadly.
Lee
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Cold and on sale!!
Seriously though I enjoy trying all different beers. Naming one as a favorite is almost impossible!
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Man, we have beer snobs here for sure. This has been on my lips for the last 3 or 4 years. It makes your bike handle better if you stay away from the other heavyweight groceries as well. Loosing ground this year though. I've got to get my disclipine back. ;)
Damn, Michelob Ultra won't let you paste their link. It red X's. Jack and Charles seem to like it though. It's Crown and water tonight since the shutdown is maturing. I'm tired.
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Hello
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Obviously....... Molson Golden
..... Retriever! ;) ;)
Sorry, I can't resist! ::) ::)
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I like to drink beer from the local guys. That's mostly City Brewery in LaCrosse, Wisconsin. That used to be Old Style until it was closed down. Then the workers with some help from the State and a couple of investors took over. Their premium Pale Ale is what I usually buy. Or I get Schell's of New Ulm, Minnesota in their various varieties. Summit of Saint Paul , Missesota is really good, and fresh is bought nearby.
I used to brew my own, but for the last few years I've not had the kitchen space needed.
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I'm and Oregon dude... Deschutes Brewery Black Butte Porter, and Guinness when I'm feeling "Brilliant!"
Of course, I have been known to drink just about anything when thirsty, but I have to be pretty damn thirsty to drink a Bud. Come to think of it, I have not been that thirsty since high school.
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I've done Murphy's at the brewery also... man was it good, and did I ever get shnockered (I was about 22 then).
I did try the yuengling ale. My buddy brought back the "variety" pack and, though I'm not a fan of ales, it was pallateable for sure. I prefer smooth clean (yes... even slightly fruity-nosed) beers. I don't think they're girly-man beers, just not as heavy. I actually like beer with alc. % between 6-10. I do get the ocassional hankerin' for a dark or even black beer. Anyone had a black beer import called Tsingu (sp?). Comes in a small wine bottle and one will put you on your a$$. It's black as spades...and gooooooood. Don't remember the country of origin.(Australia maybe?).
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What ever I brew up out in the garage. It's homebrew for me . ;D
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BUD, King of Beers.
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well, 'wee heavy'-a scotch ale from custom brewcrafters; a local brewmeister.
or, espresso stout from rohrbach's brewing just down the road.
of course, there's a bottle of Mr. Daniel's kentucky finest in the freezer.
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Speaking of good local brews Red Oak Brewery in Greensboro makes an pretty good Dunkel, Battlefieldblack only availiable on draught.
http://www.redoakbrewery.com/brewery/beers/
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From that little brewery in Shiner, Texas. Shiner Bock. I even named one of my horses after it!
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Orval Trappiste when I'm feeling flush, Young's Old Nick when I'm not!
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Anyone for Negra Modelo?
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My Chinese girlfrind and cook was born in Tsingtao, so that is what we usually drink. Green bottles; kind of a German-style lager. They built the old brewery in Tsingtao before the '49 revolution. Chairman Mao tossed them out on their ears. Correct spelling nowadays is Qingdao.
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1812 : Micro-Brew ,, @ Clayton,NY on the St Lawrence
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Or Pilsner Urquell in a pinch
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Any Monteiths or Macs. For general "sit down in the beanbag on Friday night to watch the rugby" its SPEIGHTS, Pride of the South for over 150 years.
Of course, you guys in the Northern Hemisphere won't have had the pleasure, so eat your hearts out. :D
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Have you got a day or two?
Frans, reporting from the beer country....
http://www.beerhunter.com/documents/19133-000213.html
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Zywiec or Okocim. Some of the Baltika brews are OK. Kwass in the summer.
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Sam Adams when in the USA
Harveys when in Sussex UK
Youngs in London
Grolsch when drinking from Cans (Grolsch or any other beer that is brave enough to print the ingredients on the can. If they don't own up to what is in it then every chance it comes out of a chemical factory)
Guiness if everything else looks dodgy
And never, never, never Heineken. See reference to Chemical factories.
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Guinness, Bass Ale, Fat Tire, Shiner Bock, Modelo Dark, Pauly Girl.
I like to enjoy one of these, sitting in my garage while it's pouring rain, admiring the MPH showroom luster and shine on my EV.
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when in PA, try TROEGGS Brewing (HARRISBURG). They have a wonderful line of beers. my fav that they make is hop-back. they also make a scrummy nut brown called rugged trail.guiness still a favorite!
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Ha! I knew this would be a busy thread.
I see we have a lot of beer conisiuers here...
If ya like Guiness and Sammy and Sierra give my Harpoon IPA a try.
Surprised I'm the only one thats mentioned it.
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Have you got a day or two?
Frans, reporting from the beer country....
http://www.beerhunter.com/documents/19133-000213.html
Frans-
I was counting on you! ;D
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My Chinese girlfrind and cook was born in Tsingtao, so that is what we usually drink. Green bottles; kind of a German-style lager. They built the old brewery in Tsingtao before the '49 revolution. Chairman Mao tossed them out on their ears. Correct spelling nowadays is Qingdao.
Haven't has one of those since I was in China-Town, NYC, in 1989 or so...
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Greasy Dick Bros. drank it years ago when in the Navy. I just liked its name. It has now been revived as a brand again in St. Louie and and sold in pubs as a draft beer by the great grandsons. :D
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Griesedick Bros. drank it years ago when in the Navy. I just liked its name. It has now been revived as a brand again in St. Louie and and sold in pubs as a draft beer by the great grandsons. :D
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Carl -
You mind giving a phonetic pronunciation of that name? ;D
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Griesedieck Bros. drank it years ago when in the Navy. I just liked its name. It has now been revived as a brand again in St. Louie and and sold in pubs as a draft beer by the great grandsons. :D
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Carl -
You mind giving a phonetic pronunciation of that name? ;D
DONE - I just modified my reply "Greasy Dick" as the Navy referred to it ;D
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That's what I thought! LOL :D :D :D
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The trouble with beer threads is you keep remembering new ones. I want to add 2 English beers to my first list.
Summer Lightning a very pale coloured bitter, superb taste.
Pitlield Dark Star, a dark bitter deceptively strong.
I am just about to open a bottle from the oldest brewery in England, Shepherd and Neame, called 1698, 300 years, never drunk it before (off work and not planning to ride).
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Do any of you guys have a separate fridge just for beer? 8)
When I bought my house in 2000, the p.o. had an old (circa 1960s) fridge in the basement... she was a widow and she said she kept her vegetables in there because it kept them very crisp.
I don't know if that is true, but it does a great job keeping all my beer cold! ;D ;D ;D
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Had one in my house in Florida. Just keep a cooler on the front porch at the lake when I'm up there.
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I was wondering if you'd ever chime in Dean...
So whatcha keep in dat der cooler?
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Kev-
You just perfectly described the one in my basement.
I have debated whether to make it a kegerator or not.
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I was born and raised on Old Milwaukee until I learned better! Being from PA, I gotta drink Yuengling. Usually the lager or light lager. Every now and then a Black And Tan works. If I need to be a beer snob, I'll order a Stella or Killians Red.
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Anyone for Negra Modelo?
I like it just fine-though I prefer Dos XX Amber among Mexican beers.
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Homebrew. Mine. Usually anybody else's.
Lambic ale. Even the mass-market stuff. Now if Frans ever invites us all to a party at his house...
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Anyone for Negra Modelo?
When I have to go to Guadalajara, it is Negra Modelo or Bohemia.
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Anyone for Negra Modelo?
I like it just fine-though I prefer Dos XX Amber among Mexican beers.
OK, on the Mexican beer topic, does anyone remember Simpatico? It was in a black bottle and alot of times bars would put a little sombrero on it? Cant find it anymore.
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Do any of you guys have a separate fridge just for beer? 8)
I keep a small beer fridge in the basement with the skunk piss beers for visitors. ;)
I keep a mini-keg in the main fridge for me. ;D
(http://www.ibrew.com.au/images/equipment/tapadraft/TADinfridge.jpg)
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For Mexican beer -- it has to be Pacifico!
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If I need to be a beer snob, I'll order a Killians Red.
NOW HOW IN GOD'S NAME can you be a beer snob when ordering a Coor's product?
You can say that again!
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I started to make that comment also, but it seems that the bars and resturants think that way about Killigans. I like it, it shouldn't be considered anything exotic though just because it has an Irish name.
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mmmmmmmm........... Blatz.
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mmmmmmmm...........Blatz.
Isn't that what you do after you drink a bunch?
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Stella
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mmmmmmmm...........Blatz.
I like Blatz, living in Milwaukee and all, but man does it give me gas!!! ;D
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Orval Trappiste when I'm feeling flush, Young's Old Nick when I'm not!
A man of true taste....
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Do any of you guys have a separate fridge just for beer?
What else would you use a fridge for???
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As for Coor's products, I'm a big fan of Blue Moon(Belgian Ale style). It taste like perfume, so you either love it or hate it. Newcastle Brown is one of my favorites, but you either have to order your own keg of it or drink it from a bottle. It has tasted skunky at every bar I've had it. Smithwick's is sort of an awesome mix between Newcastle and Guinness that has appeared recently around me. When it's cooler out, I like a nice cider like Strongbow or Magners(those are the least sweat tasting ciders i've had). When my friends and I get a keg, it's usually Yeungling, but in the last 2 years or so the price has gone from $58 to $80 per a keg.
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Anyone for Negra Modelo?
I like it just fine-though I prefer Dos XX Amber among Mexican beers.
OK, on the Mexican beer topic, does anyone remember Simpatico? It was in a black bottle and alot of times bars would put a little sombrero on it? Cant find it anymore.
I remember it, and have a bottle in my collection...but I haven't seen it in awhile.
But speaking of Mexican beer, does anyone remeber Nude Beer, with topless women on the labels? Now that was some real enjoyable horse piss!
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As for Coor's products, I'm a big fan of Blue Moon(Belgian Ale style). It taste like perfume, so you either love it or hate it. Newcastle Brown is one of my favorites, but you either have to order your own keg of it or drink it from a bottle. It has tasted skunky at every bar I've had it. Smithwick's is sort of an awesome mix between Newcastle and Guinness that has appeared recently around me. When it's cooler out, I like a nice cider like Strongbow or Magners(those are the least sweat tasting ciders i've had). When my friends and I get a keg, it's usually Yeungling, but in the last 2 years or so the price has gone from $58 to $80 per a keg.
$80 per keg works out -- the volume is much better than buying cases. 4 cases of anything halfway decent will set you back $100.00. So the keg is the better buy everytime.
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I have a mini fridge in the living room, only holds 4 500ml cans. At the moment it's full of Tanglefoot.
Bottles have to go in the main fridge, can't get them in the mini.
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Thanks for the reminder Frans! It's always fun to travel around in Belgium sampling beers. There's something for everybody!
My favourite is Duvel, a great Belgian beer.
Serve at almost 10C and in a special glass. Yes, it does matter .....
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Chuck U Farley's fridge: Nothing but the best!
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y114/toddhaven/colt45bottles.jpg)
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When I was in Cabo or was it Acapuco or both, that was All I drank,, very,very, good, particularly when your on the beach and it sunny and 80 degrees
"For Mexican beer -- it has to be Pacifico!"
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For Mexican beer Negra has always been my favorite but when I still lived in Pa I used to buy a lot of this:(http://www.neonsign.com/eng_mirrors/images/Chihuahuamirror.jpg)
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Again, Medalla from Puerto Rico with a couple of lobser empanada's......
(http://www.mylifeisbeer.com/beer/bottles/autopics/125.jpg[img])
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When in Mexico....has this turned into a Mexican beer thread....I always get Sol. Love it, but can't find it in E Tn
Sctt
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Okay - you may be the exception, but I believe the rule will be that the rest of us consume enough beer to make up for your lack thereof!
Besides - how can you drink tequila without an ice cold Pacifico in your hand?
Tequila shots. Mmmm !
(Beer gives me a headache. Don't know why.)
may be a food allergy to some type of grain or perhaps even to the hops.
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I prefer Mad Dog Brewery DOGGY STYLE PALE ALE as my stand by. I'm in Maryland at the moment and am enjoying several selections by Magic Hat that was mentioned a week or so ago in another post. I can't get it at home so I made sure I stopped in and picked up a 6 of the Saint Gootz and their old standby #9. Primo!!
Guys, I could write a book about beer. That's probably good and bad at this point. ;D
As my number one favorite beer of all time (besides a couple unforgettable homebrew batches) has to be Chimay Grand Cru or Orval.
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Anybody is aware of the difference in alcohol content between beers sold in the Europe and the U.S.?
I have never researched this, but I seem to remember that beers sold in TX for example can not exceed 3 or 4% in their ETOH content-- although I may be off here. What about other states?
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Right now,sitting here with a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. Have Warsteiner Premium Dunkle in the fridge, others are Bass Ale, Guiness, and have drunk my fair share of Bud Light.... ;D
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Anybody is aware of the difference in alcohol content between beers sold in the Europe and the U.S.?
I have never researched this, but I seem to remember that beers sold in TX for example can not exceed 3 or 4% in their ETOH content-- although I may be off here. What about other states?
It depends on the state and how alcohol content is taxed. Then again, alcohol content is measured by weight or volume. Beer recipes can be massaged to produce what ever is needed. I even heard that in Ireland, home of the creation of Mr. Arthur Guiness, (PBHN), that the alcohol content in his product is less than what is sold here in the states. Maybe we can get confirmation from Gary.
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I would have tought Pete Roper would have chimed in by now. ???
Very quiet from the Southern Hemispherians. I can assure you that beer is drunk down here, although some stopped drinking when they were taught how to guzzle.
When I took V11Eric out to the Mussel Inn (a local "eatery" than can be quite alternative at times) which brews its own beers, he annouced that he thought that their "Golden Goose" lager was some of the best beer he had ever had. Nod being a lager man myself I can't really comment, but I can vouch for their "Manuka Honey"
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Anybody is aware of the difference in alcohol content between beers sold in the Europe and the U.S.?
I have never researched this, but I seem to remember that beers sold in TX for example can not exceed 3 or 4% in their ETOH content-- although I may be off here. What about other states?
Most decent real ales in England would be about 5% up to 8% for a few, cheap keg bitter is 3-3.5%. Belgian bottled beer can be anything up to 10%, seldom less than 6%. German larger is usually between 4.5-6%.
Interesting side issue on strength, Carlsberg Special Brew, sold in the UK, cannot be sold in Denmark, it is just over the strength limit for beer in it's home country and would have to be sold as wine, hence Carlsberg Elephant which is very slightly weaker.
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West Virginia used to have the 3.2% law. You could drink at 18, that's where we would go in high school. Of course we lied about our age, they never checked.
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Weekend before last I got carded at the friggin Safeway... and I am 35!
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Most states don't have such stupid and archiac laws.
Kev
Sometimes I don't always agree with Kev's thoughtful, reasoned and always restrained posts, compared to other hotheads here, but I sure agree with him on this statement. Years ago on the railroad, the bar man had to observe various and arcane liquor laws as the train passed through, even DRY counties! Or, if some locality said no booze sales on Sunday-go-to-meetin' day 'twixt 12 and 2, so as not to offend the church ladies, he had to close down the beer taps, then open them a few miles later. Also, I have always wondered why some beers put their alcohol content on the can or label, like the new beer "energy" drinks like Sparks (6.0) and other common brands do NOT. One midwest standard beer I like is Icehouse, which is labeled as 5.5%. :P
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When at the appropriate place: Great Lakes Brewing Dortmunder Gold
When at the appropriate Mexican place: Tecate..... in a CAN
otherwise...
Champagne or Champagne Light.....
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High Life for thise that are not familiar with the Champagne of beers
MGD light is good too.
Damn, you guys will spend good hard earned money on the expensive stuff, but won't spend $10 on an oil filter ;D
Now I knoe why you guys use JB weld, gotta save the cash for all those Stouts and Porters you buy.... ;D
too funny....
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now - how 'bout idea for the worst.....
Genesee Creme Ale.... for one..
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now - how 'bout idea for the worst.....
Genesee Creme Ale.... for one..
Buckhorn, $2.99/ 12-pk. Truly hideous.
It was right next to the generic BEER in the aisle.
BEER in white cans was $3.49/12-pk.
That was the "good stuff" ;D
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now - how 'bout idea for the worst.....
Genesee Creme Ale.... for one..
Heileman's Old Style (a Chicago-land beer) is not very good. My uncle swills it like water. ::)
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Weekend before last I got carded at the friggin Safeway... and I am 35!
don't you just love it.... some 17 clerk that can't buy the stuff herself proofing you.. i generally respond with 'i have underwear/sox older than 'she' is' and get a giggle out of the other 'older' people on line - but not generally the clerk...
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you know.. i was in one of the upscale markets the other week and in the beer section, with all the 'fancy' foreign stuff, was a case of Genny.. now hit kinda hit me that if the local beer is known as cr*p by the locals, why not export it to other markets and call it premium and snicker at the slobs that are buying it....
is Fosters considered cr*p in Australia, Sapporo the same in Japan, Yuengling a poor choice in PA? Are the local beers in their local areas no better than Pabst Blue Ribbon
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now - how 'bout idea for the worst.....
Genesee Creme Ale.... for one..
Heileman's Old Style (a Chicago-land beer) is not very good. My uncle swills it like water. ::)
i had a brother-in-law, that, no matter what kind of premium beer there was at parties, he would bring his own and swill Schmidts...
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Depends on the season for me. I like John Courage and Sweet Water 420 in the cooler months. Red Stripe and Kalik in the warmer months.
In the cooler months I like a couple of shots of Ron Zacapa Centenario with an ice cube for sipping. In the warmer months its Ron Zacapa Centenario, tonic, and lime!!!!
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now - how 'bout idea for the worst.....
Genesee Creme Ale.... for one..
Buckhorn, $2.99/ 12-pk. Truly hideous.
It was right next to the generic BEER in the aisle.
BEER in white cans was $3.49/12-pk.
That was the "good stuff" ;D
Yeah - that sounds like Shaffer (sp?).
Back in high school (or maybe it was even Jr Jigh School) we used to sit outside the liquor store and wait for someone to buy us 2 twelve packs -- think they went for about $3.00 per twelver also.
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yep
that's them!
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now - how 'bout idea for the worst.....
Genesee Creme Ale.... for one..
Don't knock "Joe Cool Cola" , that was the big seller back when I was a kid. But 12 Horse Ale was better. And they made a brand similar to Amber Bock called Fife and Drum that I really liked. But it wasn't a good seller for them so they quit making it and started makeing a lite beer and used the name for that instead.
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How is Yuengling Black & Tan?
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now - how 'bout idea for the worst.....
Genesee Creme Ale.... for one..
Buckhorn, $2.99/ 12-pk. Truly hideous.
It was right next to the generic BEER in the aisle.
BEER in white cans was $3.49/12-pk.
That was the "good stuff" ;D
Yeah - that sounds like Shaffer (sp?).
Back in high school (or maybe it was even Jr Jigh School) we used to sit outside the liquor store and wait for someone to buy us 2 twelve packs -- think they went for about $3.00 per twelver also.
In college we didn't have to buy beer (well at least during the semester because the Fraternity had a Beer/Alcohol budget in the 25-50k range depending upon the membership. However, living there during the summer you were on your own. We'd usually buy Schaeffer's in the 16 oz returnable bar bottles, for something like $7.00 a case, even in the late 80s.
Kev
All good bad candidates, but the worst beer ever has to be Dunk's "Olde German Style" brewed in Auburndale Florida. $0.89/6 pack when I was going to the U of Fla. in the late 1970's.
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Lets not forget Hop n Gator, sort like a combination of Iron City and Gatorade. Old Frothingsloch a rebadged novelty package of Iron City. And basiclly anything from the Pittsburgh Brewing Co. Truly awful. ;D
(http://merlin2.alleg.edu/employee/c/csherman/cordic/ofc/ofcc002.jpg)
http://merlin2.alleg.edu/employee/c/csherman/cordic/ofc/of_cans.htm
(http://members.sparedollar.com/peddler11/beercan576.jpg)
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now - how 'bout idea for the worst.....
Genesee Creme Ale.... for one..
Heileman's Old Style (a Chicago-land beer) is not very good. My uncle swills it like water. ::)
I was raised on Old Style! It was perfect for when you ditched work and headed for Wrigley Field to watch the Cubs lose. In fact, when a few of us were transferred to Bill Hagan country(talk about archaic beer laws) we had a buddy bootleg cases down to us.
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Kent, that must be why the White Sox won the World Series last year and the Cubs haven't won since 1907??? ;D
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The Sox sold Old Style too. Wrigley Field was a better place to enjoy an afternoon. The beer guys were artists. They would pull a bottle from the ice chest that they carried and in one move, pop the top, upend the bottle into a cup, hand you the cup as they removed the bottle, and you had a perfect pour everytime.
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My dad drank Coors when we were kids.
He would leave an empty sitting out, sometimes with an ounce or 2 in the bottom.
He soon figured out that we were "picking up after Dad".
One swig of warm Coors with a Pall Mall butt floating in it has given me life-long aversion to Coors. ;D
And Pall Malls ;)
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(http://www.rustycans.com/Billy.GIF)
Some of the nastiest stuff I've ever tasted.
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Worst beer I have drunk is any lager brewed in the UK by a Major brewer, especially Fosters, we had enough of our own swill without having that inflicted on us. Why is it that most countries can make a decent lager beer but in the UK only imports are drinkable.
Worst bitter is any keg (pasturised, pressurised, chemical, dish water) with Tetly's bottom.
I am obviously biased but I think the Uk has the best and worst beers in the world.
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Lets not forget Hop n Gator, sort like a combination of Iron City and Gatorade. Old Frothingsloch a rebadged novelty package of Iron City. And basiclly anything from the Pittsburgh Brewing Co. Truly awful. ;D
I still have about 10 different Old Frothingsloch cans. Mmmmm the beer with the foam on the bottom...
And you are correct, everyone would like to have a little pineapple flavor in their beer! hop n gator. mmmmmyack.
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Does it suprise any one that the second most replied thread is "Re: Favorite Beer" !
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Does it suprise any one that the second most replied thread is "Re: Favorite Beer" !
no
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Go here to see some "interesting" packaging.http://www.beercansrus.com/mcart/index.cgi?code=3&page=4&cat=9
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You guys are gonna really think that I am wacked when I tell you that I have a beer can collection of about 2000 cans. I started collecting when I was around 12 or 13. I haven't seriously collected for about the last 25 years, but every once in a while will answer a classified ad or go look at someone elses collection. I have been known to frequent antique stores looking for old cans. I even used to try and find old dumps and "prospect" for cans as a teenager. If anyone here has anything, I might be interested.
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You guys are gonna really think that I am wacked when I tell you that I have a beer can collection of about 2000 cans. I started collecting when I was around 12 or 13. I haven't seriously collected for about the last 25 years, but every once in a while will answer a classified ad or go look at someone elses collection. I have been known to frequent antique stores looking for old cans. I even used to try and find old dumps and "prospect" for cans as a teenager. If anyone here has anything, I might be interested.
Vince nothing surprises me anymore since I joined this group.
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I drink beer from a local micro-brew. Cricket Hill in Fairfield, NJ.
Very small operation. The owner is a character, on Friday's between 6:00pm and 9:00pm he gives a so called tour and everyone drinks (all you want) free who comes to the brewery, which is nothing more than a 3000 to 4000 square foot building I would guess. Outstanding beers and a toned down IPA which is outstanding. The whole operation is handled by the owner and I believe 3 or 4 other people.
On Thursday's he bottles and anyone who wants can help and again drink for free. It's all his way of advertising since it's only by mouth.
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MooseHead
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I don't know anything about the beer but these guys have a great ad agency, I've seen a few other ones for them and they have all been pretty good.
http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1141979795/Funny_Hahn_Beer_Commercial
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Well, while not quite the Budweiser horse fart ad ::),
a friend in the ad biz sent us a few good beer ads:
http://www.bigad.com.au/
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/35459/guinness_evolution/
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Those are great Todd.
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Any Belgian beer made by monks is at the top of the list. Yuengling is"Americas oldest breweries" (Pitts., Penn.), and their lager is quite tastey. For cheap stuff, it gets two thumbs up! Yuengling is not distributed everywhere, so I have friends that make their way to Penn. and pick me up some now and again. :P
just back from daytona and catching up on guzzi b.s. yuengling is not brewed in pittsburgh but iron city is (pittsburgh brewing co.) iron city was the first beer in a pop top can and was the first to be bottled in aluminum bottles. yuengling is brewed in pottsville, pa. rolling rock comes from latrobe, pa and all us pennsyltuckians get a kick out of yuppies thinking it's special. ::) i don't care too much for iron city but rock's ok. my favorite: guinness extra stout.
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What happened to Stag beer? It was an awful beer that could be had in the St. Louis area in the late 60s, early 70s...
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Any Belgian beer made by monks is at the top of the list. Yuengling is"Americas oldest breweries" (Pitts., Penn.), and their lager is quite tastey. For cheap stuff, it gets two thumbs up! Yuengling is not distributed everywhere, so I have friends that make their way to Penn. and pick me up some now and again. :P
all us pennsyltuckians get a kick out of yuppies thinking it's special. ::) i don't care too much for iron city but rock's ok. my favorite: guinness extra stout.
Do they still make Straub up in St Marys?
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When I was stationed in Maryland in the early 70s, we drank something called National Bohemian Beer. It was awful. Is it still made?
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Worst beer I ever consumed was any American beer in the Orient. It had formaldehyde in it to preserve it across the Pacific Ocean. :P Next worse was Heidelberg & Bohemian made in Vancouver, Wash. I drank Olympia 'till some lesbian sisters took the brewery over & I started seeing hops floating in the quart bottles. ::) In Wash. State my favorite beer was Rainier, but now it seems pretty nasty compared to Miller brands.
Primo in Hawaii was pretty generic too.
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Guiness and Peroni for me
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Any Belgian beer made by monks is at the top of the list. Yuengling is"Americas oldest breweries" (Pitts., Penn.), and their lager is quite tastey. For cheap stuff, it gets two thumbs up! Yuengling is not distributed everywhere, so I have friends that make their way to Penn. and pick me up some now and again. :P
all us pennsyltuckians get a kick out of yuppies thinking it's special. ::) i don't care too much for iron city but rock's ok. my favorite: guinness extra stout.
Do they still make Straub up in St Marys?
yep, straub's is still brewed there with no preservatives.
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glad to see the beer thread is still alive.
About to do my annual pilgrimmage to California for the opening of March Madness.
The buddy who is hosting this year's event is getting a keg of Bass and a keg of Harp.
He said he has also made about 10 gallons of Sangria!
That should be about perfect -- there are 12 of us who do this event each year.
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Dragons Breath from Canada. Unfortunitly I haven't seen it for several years. Belhaven Scotish ale, Pacifico, Down with the over hopped domestic micro pub stuff.
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Singha beer from Thailand used to drink this stuff all of the time in Bangkok.
Bintang beer in Indonesia is just Heineken it used to be a Dutch colony, they kicked the dutch out and kept the brewry, not bad, real cheap.
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Singha beer from Thailand used to drink this stuff all of the time in Bangkok.
Bintang beer in Indonesia is just Heineken it used to be a Dutch colony, they kicked the dutch out and kept the brewry, not bad, real cheap.
While in the Orient I drank Asahi or Kirnin, mainly. But w/no taxes on alcohol over there I drank more vodka than beer. A can of beer was 5 cents. A double shot screwdriver was 30 cents. You do the math. I could get plowed for $5 !! Gilbey vodka was 90 cents a litre. 8) Good thing us sailors were out to sea more than in port.
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Singha beer from Thailand used to drink this stuff all of the time in Bangkok.
Bintang beer in Indonesia is just Heineken it used to be a Dutch colony, they kicked the dutch out and kept the brewry, not bad, real cheap.
While in the Orient I drank Asahi or Kirnin, mainly. But w/no taxes on alcohol over there I drank more vodka than beer. A can of beer was 5 cents. A double shot screwdriver was 30 cents. You do the math. I could get plowed for $5 !! Gilbey vodka was 90 cents a litre. 8) Good thing us sailors were out to sea more than in port.
Yeah, Randy I was working and living on a job site (Liquid Natural Gas Refinery) on Boreno. We could drink Gin & Tonics all night long for next to nothing and many a night I did. Don't know why I didn't become an alcoholic after that.
Free food and lodging too, two weeks in Singapore every 90 days. Not a bad time, single at the time too.
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"Sometimes when I reflect back on all the wine I drink I feel shameThen I look into the glass and think
about the workers in the vineyards and all of their hopes and dreams. If I didn't drink this wine, they might be
out of work and their dreams would be shattered. Then I say to myself, "It is better that I drink this wine and
let their dreams come true than be selfish and worry about my liver."
~ Jack Handy
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may leave you
wondering what the hell happened to your bra and panties.
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"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they
wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're
going to feel all day. "
~Frank Sinatra
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may create the
illusion that you are tougher, smarter, faster and better looking than most people.
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"When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up
reading."
~ Henny Youngman
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may lead you to
think people are laughing WITH you.
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"24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence?
I think not."
~ Stephen Wright
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause you to
think you can sing.
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"When we drink, we get drunk. When we get drunk,
we fall asleep. When we fall asleep, we commit no sin.
When we commit no sin, we go to heaven. So, let's all
get drunk and go to heaven!"!
~ Brian O'Rourke
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause
pregnancy.
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"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
~ Benjamin Franklin
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol is a major factor
in dancing like a retard.
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"Without question, the greatest invention in the history of mankind is beer. Oh, I grant you that the wheel was also a fine invention, but the wheel does not go nearly as well with pizza."
~ Dave Barry
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause you to
tell your friends over and over again that you love them.
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To some it's a six-pack, to me it's a Support Group.
Salvation in a can!
~Dave Howell
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think
you can logically converse with members of the opposite sex
without spitting.
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And saving the best for last, as explained by Cliff
Clavin, of Cheers. One afternoon at Cheers, Cliff Clavin was
explaining the Buffalo Theory to his buddy Norm.
Here's how it went:
"Well ya see, Norm, it's like this... A herd of
buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is
hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed
first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the
general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the
regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the
human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells.
Excessive intake of alcohol, as we know, kills brain cells. But
naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way,
regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the
brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel
smarter after a few beers."
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think
you are whispering when you are not.
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In Prague you can drink every beer of the spine. They are all the best.
Canned beer must be German Radeberger, Flensburger or Jever.
No doubt! 8)
But when in Italy, Nastro Azurro!
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Hey, the beer thread is back. Did I mention my 2000 plus beer can collection? ;D
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Hey, the beer thread is back. Did I mention my 2000 plus beer can collection? ;D
Vince,
ANY OF THESE IN IT....
http://www.fosters.com.au/enjoy/beer.htm
Third one from the left is my fave... :D
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......One swig of warm Coors with a Pall Mall butt floating in it..... ;D
Hey, thats not a beer, thats a drink! "The hang-over special"
To be enjoyed very early in the morning. Better if been left on an old fashioned amplifier overnight! ;)
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Hey, the beer thread is back. Did I mention my 2000 plus beer can collection? ;D
I had just found all those quotes and wanted to put them into the thread... but now they are hidden on page 5... wonder if anyone will look back there to see it.
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Hello John,
I unfortunately don't have Carlton Draught. I do have a few varities of Foster's Lager, though. I really haven't seriously collected for about 25 years, although I did buy a can a couple of years ago comming back from the WI Guzzi Rally (Guzzi content!).
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my favorite beer...the one (or more) I have w/ FRIENDS !
Negra Modelo
Shiner
Guniess
Old Dominion
or a plain ol' crappy Bud in the garage..(when im alone, cause
I save the good stuff for my friends when they come over)
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Ayinger
Hacker-Pschorr Hefeweissen
Bittburger
Warsteiner
Peroni (just because I ride a Guzzi)
Duvel
Brou Czeck
Breakspear's Best Bitter
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Moretti La Rossa
Dinkelaker
Battlefield Black (when I'm up around Greensboro)
Tequiza-Hey you gotta lighten up once an a while
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McSorley's Ale, when taken at McSorley's Ale House on E 7th St in Manhattan where legend has it Abe Lincoln would hoist a few when in NYC.
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Hey Kev
You shouldn't have been in such a hurry to leave when you were here fixing your bike. I like Yeungling Lager and Joe drinks that and
the Black & Tan and when he can get it, Spaten(??) We've always got that good PA beer.
Got to have a Tecate when eating Mexican.
Pat
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Peroni Nastro Azzurro
Moretti
Samuel Adams Boston Lager
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deja vu all over again, this is so much like a favorite beer thread from 4 months ago
Oh yeah, it's still Medalla
(http://beercansrus.com/mcart/images/medallacerveza.jpg[img])
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Hand me one at Arkansas and I'll tell you if it's worth a damn. Late night mooch satisfication gets higher rankings. :P
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Peroni Nastro Azzurro
Moretti
Samuel Adams Boston Lager
Wow,
Didn't know I had a long-lost brother.
Maybe we could do Geraldo's show? :D
"separated at birth"
Nature vs nurture
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Henry Weinhards is a good clean lager if I'm drinking beer. Usually though you'll find me with some Gentleman Jack on the rocks with a twist, or Makers Mark. A fine Kentucky Bourbon, or Tennessee sour mash is my poison. Less filling. ;D
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It is one of lifes catholic mysteries that Budweiser is one of the sponsers of the World Cup. :-\
No wonder the Germans are upset...
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The FIFA picks up the dough wherever they find it !
But if they drink that horse-pee, who gives a rat´s ass ?
;D 8)
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my favorite beer...the one (or more) I have w/ FRIENDS !
Negra Modelo
Shiner
Guniess
Old Dominion
or a plain ol' crappy Bud in the garage..(when im alone, cause
I save the good stuff for my friends when they come over)
Certifiably insane. Where do you live, again?
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Astra:
(http://static.flickr.com/64/158099671_23568c6d88.jpg)
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Certifiably insane. Where do you live, again?
why you coming over w/ some beer ??? ;)
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Peroni Nastro Azzurro
Moretti
Samuel Adams Boston Lager
Wow,
Didn't know I had a long-lost brother.
Maybe we could do Geraldo's show? :D
"separated at birth"
Nature vs nurture
Todd,
Now I "know" you are as good as people here say you are!!
When and if I meet you, I'll buy you a few of these:
(http://www.birraperoni.co.uk/trade/common_files/imgs/nastro_azzurro_bottle.jpg)
Nick
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Better than bottles is to go "get your milk right from the cow."
In Seattle, it is tradition to go right to your favorite brewery (nearly every neighborhood has one or more), and take home "growlers" (half-gallon bottles) drawn straight from the barrels.
I'm a hop-head, and this is the best IPA I've ever tasted:
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j221/greguzzi/PICT0046.jpg)
Diamond Knot IPA, from Mukilteo, Washington. Hoppy, fruity, and delicate. Get it directly from the brewery, keep it cold, and drink the whole thing in one sitting. It's as Seattle as Soundgarden, alder-smoked salmon, and the Space Needle . . .
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Tequiza-Hey you gotta lighten up once an a while
I got into a session with some German friends once, it was a Tequilla slammer, followed by a Rolink pils. Didn't last too long, started at 8pm in bed by 11pm.
Rolink is one of the best beers in Germany (a big claim) comes from the north, not exported though and thats a real shame.
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Guiness these days. Used to love IPA (good local Chilliwack stuff). But Guiness is way easier on the stomach, which has taken a disliking to all the hops in the IPAs. And Guiness is quite a bit easier on the head the next morning as well.
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After having taken a break from Sierra Nevada for a few months, and drinking mostly Grolsch and/or Bass at home, I was in San Diego this past weekend celebrating Father's Day with my pop...
took him to the Del Coronado for lunch on Firday and Saturday and sipped a few Sierras down each time... man those things have a lot of hops compared to the other beers I've been drinking... but they sure go down well on a warm afternoon.
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I liked a smooth heat beer there best, but like I say, it's the buzz that I'm really looking for. I like to ride after 2-3 beers. Makes things more enjoyable, IMHO. ;)
There is politically correct, politically incorrect, and just plain wrong. This falls into the "just plain wrong" category.
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I liked a smooth heat beer there best, but like I say, it's the buzz that I'm really looking for. I like to ride after 2-3 beers. Makes things more enjoyable, IMHO. ;)
There is politically correct, politically incorrect, and just plain wrong. This falls into the "just plain wrong" category.
Brain fade.
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after 2-3 beers I like to put my feet up and enjoy the views from my motel veranda.
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Henry Weinhards is a good clean lager if I'm drinking beer. Usually though you'll find me with some Gentleman Jack on the rocks with a twist, or Makers Mark. A fine Kentucky Bourbon, or Tennessee sour mash is my poison. Less filling. ;D
Shakey,
Next time you're in the ABC or wherever you buy Bourbon, pick up a bottle of Bulliet Bourbon. Don't let the price fool you. This is an excellent quality drink! Smooth and refined yet you know it is in the glass. Great stuff. http://www.bulleitbourbon.com
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Try Pig's Eye beer if you ever get to Minnesota (although it's made in Wisconsin now since the Minnesot Brewing Company went out of business a few years back). Pig's Eye was the original name of St. Paul, Minnesota.
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(http://members.cox.net/thecoffins/Misc%20pics/Billy.gif)
Only kidding. ;D
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I've still got about a case of empties of those down the basement. I think they are maybe worth about $1 each to a collector.
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I liked a smooth heat beer there best, but like I say, it's the buzz that I'm really looking for. I like to ride after 2-3 beers. Makes things more enjoyable, IMHO. ;)
There is politically correct, politically incorrect, and just plain wrong. This falls into the "just plain wrong" category.
I think that what is ""just plain wrong"" is that you're not reading it right. Your comment is on something that is a wrong assumption on your part. You didn't read the emotion-con into Randy's answer. It's winking. He's not 100% expecting you to believe him. You bit and posted a ""just plain wrong"" assumption. TROLL.
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Guinness
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Try Pig's Eye beer if you ever get to Minnesota (although it's made in Wisconsin now since the Minnesot Brewing Company went out of business a few years back). Pig's Eye was the original name of St. Paul, Minnesota.
Isn't that made from potatos? I use to get that up in Pa. Good Beer.
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I really like Warsteiner Premium Dunkel. I'm not normally a dark beer drinker but that beer is good.
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If you ever come to Belgium, try one of their dark triples !
They run around 7 to 10 rpm (Alcohol, ;)) If you´re not aware of that and have three or four in a row, you really get blitzed !
(I know what I´m talking about!)
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deja vu all over again, this is so much like a favorite beer thread from 4 months ago
Oh yeah, it's still Medalla
(http://beercansrus.com/mcart/images/medallacerveza.jpg[img])
Medalla? My friends in PR say they only make that for the tourists! No one that lives there will touch the stuff! I didnt think it was THAT bad but wouldnt call it a favorite.
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If you ever come to Belgium, try one of their dark triples !
This one's for you Klaus;
(http://www.lahoublonniere.be/administrer/images/abbaye/leftrple.jpg)
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Yeah, that´s it !
Dangereous !
:o
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If you ever come to Belgium, try one of their dark triples !
They run around 7 to 10 rpm (Alcohol, ;)) If you´re not aware of that and have three or four in a row, you really get blitzed !
(I know what I´m talking about!)
I was there, in Lopem, begining of this month, finished off each night after loads of draft, with two bottles of Trapiste, lovely stuff.
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I used to snag the small bottles of Gouden Carolus(sp?) an the bar where I worked, at $6 a 10oz bottle (in 1984) they never sold. :D
Bottled imports - give me a Newcastle Ale or a Samuel Smith Taddy Porter. IMO, freshness in beer is everything, I try to stick with the local fare - Deschutes Twilight Ale is the current fave.
Italian Beers? :P Would you eat a British Pizza? ;D
dave
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Absolute worst pizza is in the cafe at Chiang Kai Shek International Airport. The whole thing is sweet. Dough is like cookie dough with a sweet tomato paste topped with very little pink cubes of luncheon meat. My brother ordered it and I thought he was nuts! ::) Kind of like expecting good Chinese food in Wyoming. Okay but not good. Austrian pizza is kinda bizzare. ¹/² whole boiled eggs with spinach as a topping.
From way out west-decent pilsner beers for the warm weather;
Sapporo (Japanese), Hinano (Samoan), Tsing Tao (Chinese), Steinlager (New Zealand). The local brew pub stuff is good too! Kona Brewing Company.
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I like in no paticular order
Carta Blanca
Stella
Sam Adams lite and reg
Guiness
Pilner Urquell
and most other really good beers.
A lot of you really seem to like Sierra Nev Pale ale, I don't find that stuff so good.
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Italian Beers? :P Would you eat a British Pizza? ;D
dave
Actually I got one of the best pizzas ever in London. But english ale???? Thank you Ma'm, but Im no thirsty. But a pizza ruccola and parmeggiano in Tropea can never be wrong.
The Nastro Azurro will be alright as the companion, but always preffer the local red. Almost, that is ;D
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Well today I watched Italy vs Australia. I had one six pack of nastro azzurro the great peroni then a six pack of becker followed by a six pack of coors. Well not only do the Italians make the best m/c, they also make the best beer. The coors tested more like soda pop and the german beer was a little too aggressive as usual. Viva Italia, viva Italia the land of good taste and beautiful woman, great m/c and lousey management. Sorry Mr. Pete Roper but your team sucks big time, even with the ref on their side they sucked.
Ciao & as always be safe
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Well today I watched Italy vs Australia. I had one six pack of nastro azzurro the great peroni then a six pack of becker followed by a six pack of coors. Well not only do the Italians make the best m/c, they also make the best beer. The coors tested more like soda pop and the german beer was a little too aggressive as usual. Viva Italia, viva Italia the land of good taste and beautiful woman, great m/c and lousey management. Sorry Mr. Pete Roper but your team sucks big time, even with the ref on their side they sucked.
Ciao & as always be safe
Ive seen a pic of Mr Roper. Hes big. Dont fuzz with him. Say something nice about Fosters or so ;D
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Sorry Mr. Roper I tried to buy some foster beer but I was told the toilets werent working today. :D :D ;D ;D
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Sorry Mr. Roper I tried to buy some foster beer but I was told the toilets werent working today. :D :D ;D ;D
They even admit that it's swill. Only for export.
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Well today I watched Italy vs Australia. I had one six pack of nastro azzurro the great peroni then a six pack of becker followed by a six pack of coors. Well not only do the Italians make the best m/c, they also make the best beer. The coors tested more like soda pop and the german beer was a little too aggressive as usual.
That's some great sport if you have to get S-faced to watch it.
What is the custom,
slam a six-pack after each point scored? :D
That explains the fan riots, as well.
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Just got done cutting the grass and am now enjoying a nice cold Tecate. May even have another with the spagetti that I am cooking for tonights dinner. :)
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Just got done cutting the grass and am now enjoying a nice cold Tecate. May even have another with the spagetti that I am cooking for tonights dinner. :)
I was going to say something, but then I realized that the topic was "favortie beer", not "good beer". So your safe.... :D
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I was going to say something, but then I realized that the topic was "favortie beer", not "good beer". So your safe.... :D
Come on now, we can get dollar cans of Pabst and Schlitz here in Milwaukee on select days at the tavern! ;D
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Todd........whats wrong with a little riot now and then, are you unsociable or something. What bugs you about soccer, is it that you dont understand it or you dont want to understand it. As the old saying goes, when you think everybody else is wrong, better start looking at yourself.
Ciao & BE safe
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Molto,
I am no big fan of any spectator sport.
I played soccer for a year or two as a kid.
I understand the basics of the game, and can appreciate
it being played well.
I do not find it interesting on TV.
Not baseball, football('murrican style), basketball,
golf, poker, etc.
Overpaid crybabies in my book.
When I was a kid in Dallas(1972), my best friend's dad played for the Cowboys.
Caught a TD in the Super Bowl, is now in the Hall of Fame.
He was just Mr. Alworth to me. He was no millionaire,
just an ordinary guy. With a Corvette and a hot trophy wife. ;D
I was a fan for several years, but got turned off by the thug
mentality that now rules pro sports in the US.
If you're a fan, have a party.
Sorry if I rained on your parade. It was meant in jest.
p.s, I never cease to be amazed when the field goal kicker lines up for
the last-second game-deciding kick.
Both sides--- Pray??? WTF. :o :o :o
God likes my football team more than yours. Gimme a break ::)
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BACK TO THE ROOTS !
We´re talking beer !
Wer hats erfunden ???
;D
"Beer" and "Italy" in the same sentence ??? B...s..t ! They can´t even play soccer ! Need a penalty-gift to beat the Soccaroos ! HAH !
;D
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from Wikipedia
Carefully read the first line ;D
In Belgium you don't order 'a beer'. Would be the same as asking for a 'glas of wine' in a French restaurant.
If anyone of you ever comes to my hometown Bruges in Belgium, you're invited to a local pub where they serve over 100 brand of local beers ::)
Ad Fundum ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_beer
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If you ever come to Belgium, try one of their dark triples !
They run around 7 to 10 rpm (Alcohol, ;)) If you´re not aware of that and have three or four in a row, you really get blitzed !
(I know what I´m talking about!)
I was there, in Lopem, begining of this month, finished off each night after loads of draft, with two bottles of Trapiste, lovely stuff.
You were in Loppem? And you didn't come over to my place??? Damn...I was born and raised in Loppem, left it when I maried in 79 and still live not more than 5 kms away. I suppose you stayed near 'De Strooien Hane' during the international bike meeting?
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Hi Frans,
ever once in a while we stay a week or so in De Haan. Next time I meet you in Brugge, there´s a little shop at the corner of the Central Place, they sell about 1 million different kinds of beer and other related stuff.
See you there !
Cheers
Klaus
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I love Franziskaner Weissbier...The beer with the friar
Glu glu glu...
bye Diego
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Yep, good stuff !
:-*
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...you know, guys? I love beer, but carrying it on a motorcycle is a pain in the tush. It's voluminous and heavy and a single six-pack takes as much space as a pair of light hiking shoes. Also, the right kind is not always readily available in the waypoints I transit through, so I have settled for the concentrated kind; distilled in Scotland, easily carried in a few miniatures and very effect-efficient.
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Yeah, you´re right, but................ .....
imagine that:
You have a all day trip, beautiful landscape, hot weather, sun banging on your helmet, Guzzi engine trying to grill your center bearing ( ;))...........
then you reach that lovely, shady Biergarten ! You give your orders, and there it is.....in steamed-up glass...........dro ps running down the side.....you grap it, put your head back............... ................... ...
you don´t do that with that tuff stuff, do you ?
;D
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Yeah, you´re right, but................ .....
imagine that:
You have a all day trip, beautiful landscape, hot weather, sun banging on your helmet, Guzzi engine trying to grill your center bearing ( ;))...........
then you reach that lovely, shady Biergarten ! You give your orders, and there it is.....in steamed-up glass...........dro ps running down the side.....you grap it, put your head back............... ................... ...
you don´t do that with that tuff stuff, do you ?
;D
well said.
Nothing beats the thirst better on a hot day than a cold beer.
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Good beer to quench the thrist and good Scotch to remind us how good life is. Guys, life is a oneway street enjoy.
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Yeah, you´re right, but................ .....
imagine that:
You have a all day trip, beautiful landscape, hot weather, sun banging on your helmet, Guzzi engine trying to grill your center bearing ( ;))...........
then you reach that lovely, shady Biergarten ! You give your orders, and there it is.....in steamed-up glass...........dro ps running down the side.....you grap it, put your head back............... ................... ...
you don´t do that with that tuff stuff, do you ?
Klaus, different territiories, different needs. One doesn't find many biergartens in the vastness of the American Southwest ... :'(
(http://santaferider.smugmug.com/photos/11958207-M.jpg)
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What a pitty !!!
Let´s do business, let´s start a Biergarten right there !
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HI, Todd........If it rained on our parade we were all to drunk to notice. Peroni's nasto azzurro was the clear favorite, 3 cases all gone, becks 3 cases 5 bottles left, coors 3 cases 11 bottles left. Scotch was the clear winner of the hard stuff. No fights mostly naps, no property damage, no one drove home.
Ciao & BE safe
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HI, Todd........If it rained on our parade we were all to drunk to notice. Peroni's nasto azzurro was the clear favorite, 3 cases all gone, becks 3 cases 5 bottles left, coors 3 cases 11 bottles left. Scotch was the clear winner of the hard stuff. No fights mostly naps, no property damage, no one drove home.
Ciao & BE safe
Sounds like the VA Rally!
We brought a case of red wine -- 9 bottles gone the first night, rest finished the second... a case of Nastro Azzurro -- all gone. a case of Moretti's La Rossa, 3 bottles left. About a 1/2 bottle of The Balvenie (10 y.o.) gone. and a liter bottle of Hennessey -- about 3 oz left.
No fights, no property damage...
lots of smiles and happy memories.
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What a pitty !!!
Let´s do business, let´s start a Biergarten right there !
let's!
you be the investor, I'll be the working partner...
like we say here,
the one who puts the money, holds his head...
the one who puts the head, holds the money ;D ;D ;D
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Ok, my top 5
(http://images.google.be/images?q=tbn:xhcnkFbIXM7ogM:www.orval.be/images/produits/brasserie/histoire/verre-rempli.gif)
orval
(http://images.google.be/images?q=tbn:K-E6V8wCiv9USM:www.requiebros.com/Photos/chimay_chalice1a.jpg)
chimay
(http://images.google.be/images?q=tbn:nL3cWqSb_nUZCM:members.lycos.nl/atlantico2/hpbimg/grimboptimo.JPG)
leffe bruin
(http://images.google.be/images?q=tbn:W6imEvroHJMYwM:www.bierebel.com/images/bouteilles/corsendonk_blonde.gif)
corsendonk agnus
(http://images.google.be/images?q=tbn:26slikttcTnHVM:www.belgianshop.com/Deli-shop/media/BB20672-item.jpg)
poperings hommelbier
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does anyone here have a taste for rye ale? (Kvass)
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Rockford, Illinois has a fine microbrewery in Carlysle Brewing Company. I am particularly fond of the Scottish Ale.
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Ok, my top 5
Frans, now you're talking! All the best beers are from Belgium and parts nearby. Have a Van Stienberg Augustin for me sometime, as it is hard to come by here in the USA. Visted the brewery last year and had one with the 90+ year old owner. Highlight of my trip!
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If you ever come to Belgium, try one of their dark triples !
They run around 7 to 10 rpm (Alcohol, ;)) If you´re not aware of that and have three or four in a row, you really get blitzed !
(I know what I´m talking about!)
I was there, in Lopem, begining of this month, finished off each night after loads of draft, with two bottles of Trapiste, lovely stuff.
You were in Loppem? And you didn't come over to my place??? Damn...I was born and raised in Loppem, left it when I maried in 79 and still live not more than 5 kms away. I suppose you stayed near 'De Strooien Hane' during the international bike meeting?
Yeah, it's a good rally. Got the bus into Bruge and had a few beers at lunch time, while the women were shopping. I will probably be there next year too. I will let you know and we can meet up for a beer.
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a beer and some crevettes grises... yum!!! 8)
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I don't drink hard stuff but I likes me beer.
My choices are dark beers. I like pilsners but my stomach doesn't.
Black Butte is my fave, along with Guiness, and Anchor Steam. Usually I can find one of these brands at a store near a campout. I wear a back pack to campouts primarily for the 'love of suds'. Get 'em outta the carton, and fill it to the max. ;D
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Ok, my top 5
Visted the brewery last year and had one with the 90+ year old owner. Highlight of my trip!
Yep, quite a character, isn't he? ;D
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(http://images.google.be/images?q=tbn:nL3cWqSb_nUZCM:members.lycos.nl/atlantico2/hpbimg/grimboptimo.JPG)
leffe bruin
My stuff. Love it !
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Lots of good beers mentioned already. I prefer my own homebrew (been brewing for over 5 yrs. now.) Recently, I have been buying Bridgeport IPA at the local store. The local store doesn't have an extensive selection and SN Pale Ale was getting a bit old, even though it's good and sort of a standard. They do carry some of the very high $$$ imports, but I only buy those for special occasions. ;D
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For anyone who wants to get some of the best, right from the source, Motomonster, Steakdaddy, and I will be at the Diamond Knot brewery in Mukilteo, Washington tomorrow evening. Join us if you'd like to . . .
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Sounds good -- wish I could.
Tilt one to the east for me! 8)
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I didn't want to start a whole new thread, so it seemed appropriate to post this here.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/445498/robotic_beer_launching_refrigerator
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I didn't want to start a whole new thread, so it seemed appropriate to post this here.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/445498/robotic_beer_launching_refrigerator
I guess it would be possible to load one of them Coca-Cola machines with beer-cans instead. All you need is a truck to pick one up, place near to your couch, reach out, and you'd get a beer ready to open.....
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We did the whole single malt scotch thing - but I am betting that we all drink way more beer than anything else.
To that length...
What is your favorite beer?
For many years mine was Sierra Nevada Pale Ale... but then I put on 30 lbs.
Now, I regularly buy Harp, Bass and Grolsch.
But my favorite these days, I'd have to say, is Grolsch.
Kunztown Birch. Their Sasparila is pretty good too! ;D
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If you make it down to Central Texas, look for beers from the Real Ale Brewery in Blanco. The boys do good. They make a tasty Rye Pale Ale that is an excellent chaser for Knob Creek on the rocks.
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Cold
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Love that beer catapult! Only thing better is having a beer tap/keg in your house. ;D
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being new to moto guzzi, i ask--- do you folks ever organize a rally around roads and breweries? not encouraging drinking and riding at the same time, but having a rally site specifically selected because of the good riding roads around it leading to good breweries where one could moderately sample and then bring a batch back for the campfire and tire kicking seems like a worthy way to plan a rally. maybe we could have one such rally a year organized around longitude. a right coast rally around 75 degrees would pick up western ma. and upstate ny brewers and access to boston and some pennsy brewers. something around 95 degrees would make it a minnesota to texas deal. could alternate over the years. same for the 125 where it could be that fine stuff mentioned by greg in washington, or oregon or cal or mexico. regardless of how its done, 8 pages of responses indicates some serious libation interests.
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I think that the guys tend to find libations and eating wherever a rally is hosted. Make the National rally and I'm sure the guys will show you the way. :D
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can't make the national but i sure will make at least one rally and will join the hunt tom.
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A lot of the guys will quaff a bunch at the rally site after the days activities are done. I went for the beeeg cheez hamboogie last year and the place had a great selection of beers. Didn't drink too much because we needed to ride back to the rally site but once there the cooler was opened up. :D
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being new to moto guzzi, i ask--- do you folks ever organize a rally around roads and breweries? not encouraging drinking and riding at the same time, but having a rally site specifically selected because of the good riding roads around it leading to good breweries where one could moderately sample and then bring a batch back for the campfire and tire kicking seems like a worthy way to plan a rally. maybe we could have one such rally a year organized around longitude. a right coast rally around 75 degrees would pick up western ma. and upstate ny brewers and access to boston and some pennsy brewers. something around 95 degrees would make it a minnesota to texas deal. could alternate over the years. same for the 125 where it could be that fine stuff mentioned by greg in washington, or oregon or cal or mexico. regardless of how its done, 8 pages of responses indicates some serious libation interests.
The Maryland Rally is near a brewery. They send over free beer to the rally and you can ride over there for samples. I believe this is it.
(http://www.wildgoosebrewery.com/default_files/image002.jpg)
http://www.wildgoosebrewery.com/
Another brand they have.
(http://www.flyingdogales.com/downloads/wallpaper/1024x768/Tire-bite.jpg)
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The Maryland Rally is near a brewery. They send over free beer to the rally and you can ride over there for samples. I believe this is it.
(http://www.wildgoosebrewery.com/default_files/image002.jpg)
http://www.wildgoosebrewery.com/
Another brand they have.
(http://www.flyingdogales.com/downloads/wallpaper/1024x768/Tire-bite.jpg)
I'm really hoping to make that one this year... Howard and I chatted about it when he was helping (okay, he was doing the work, and I was helping) out with the V50.
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I have two favorites:
1. COLD
2. FREE
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This thread *is* on a roll - - ;D
I'm fond of amber ales.
Alaskan Amber, brewed in Juneau and available at Costco here
Fat Tire (or Flat Tire, as it's sometimes called - "A loaf of Flat Tire, my good man!"
Bohemia (used to say "Mexican Ale" on the label, now it's "beer," but it's the same stuff)
Hammerhead, which I can get on tap right across the street from my building at the Six Arms Pub. It's a McMenamins tavern, and they brew their own somewhere - not at the Six Arms, though. The McMenamin brothers are from Portland, OR, and they've built an empire of about 70 pubs in the NW. Like Starbucks, there's money to be made when you can make your product for a nickel and sell it for four bucks. 8)
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Another brand they have.
(http://www.flyingdogales.com/downloads/wallpaper/1024x768/Tire-bite.jpg)
If the beer is as good as the label is interesting, it must be something special! :D
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gnorts, you are surprisingly close on the numbers. here's some numbers from a beer institute group's publication about 5 years ago.
ingredients in a "mass" beer (bud)6 pack, $.16, craft beer (sam) $. 25
labor, management, ads, packaging --mass $1.47, craft $2.68,
retail markup, mass $ .80, craft$1.30,
distributor markup mass $. 66, craft $1.20,
brewer profit, mass $. 25 craft $ . 67
taxes and shipping not included.
guess the lesson is don't go into business raising hops.
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Tire Bite! Love it. Pretty direct shot at Fat Tire, ya think?
Ralph Steadman is sooo twisted. I discovered him when he was Hunter Thompson's favorite illustrator.
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Mississippi Mud is the best!! (of course)
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Another brand they have.
(http://www.flyingdogales.com/downloads/wallpaper/1024x768/Tire-bite.jpg)
If the beer is as good as the label is interesting, it must be something special! :D
Is good beer. Used to be great beer but as in a lot of brews that go for a larger distro they lost something when they went for the money. I'm pretty sure they started in Colorado.
Flying Dog is the most desirable offer. Try it, you may like it but be forewarned it has been better...
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Old Style, Rheinlander, Keystone Ice, Carlsberg Elephant
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Chili Beer.. hands down, has a whole jalapeno in it that gives a great kick, wish i could find it in miami.
(http://www.chilibeer.com/images/Chili%20Beer%20Poster%20CROPPED%201000.jpg)
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yeah, i've had it. its a little too hot :o i prefer my beer to be refreshing. like a mountain stream. ;D
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Two favorites, neither of which I can get where I live.
American beer, "Cave Creek" It has the jalapeno in it.
Foreign beer, " Victoria Bitters" Ask Pete Roper about it.
Sasquatch Jim
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best book ever. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. yeah. vincent black shadow. we're with the factory team...
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(http://www.theimpulsivebuy.com/images/ibcrootbeer.jpg)
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Mort Sabite "Quick Death" only available in Belgium
Arrogant Bastard (Stone Brewery) San Diego
Stella Artois (Thank you Budweiser for signing that deal to input to the US)
and naturally Guinness, because sometimes its not a beer you want it's a meal you need!
Cheers,
John
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My favorite breweries
Ommegang, New York.
Allagash, Portland.
New Belgium, Colorado.
Unibroue, Canada.
Just to name a few.
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I love Franziskaner Weissbier...The beer with the friar
Glu glu glu...
bye Diego
Another vote for Franziskaner here!!!!! I don't drink beer anymore, long ago moved to move to my favorite drink of choice, bombay saphire gin; yet, on the rare occasion that I do have a beer, it's almost always a Franziskaner.
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Wow, what a diverse group of brew connoisseurs! I'm impressed! ::) However, for what one bottle of those fancy beers cost, a fellow could get a 6pk of something along the lines of "The Beast" (Milwaukee's Best) Much more "bang for the buck", (if you can get it down). My palate is much more discriminating....g rew up on Pabst Blue Ribbon, and now enjoy cold Bud Lite. The label says it's a "premium" beer and that's good enough for me. :)
Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill is my beverage of choice for Black Tie affairs. It never fails to impress on those occassions when it ain't appropriate to be standing around with a can of beer. ;D But, around these parts, untaxed "sippin whiskey" is plentiful and negates the need to endure any "bloating". Also cures colds, moles, risin's & piles and makes childbirth a pleasure! ;)
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Wow, what a diverse group of brew connoisseurs! I'm impressed! ::) However, for what one bottle of those fancy beers cost, a fellow could get a 6pk of something along the lines of "The Beast" (Milwaukee's Best) Much more "bang for the buck", (if you can get it down). My palate is much more discriminating....g rew up on Pabst Blue Ribbon, and now enjoy cold Bud Lite. The label says it's a "premium" beer and that's good enough for me. :)
Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill is my beverage of choice for Black Tie affairs. It never fails to impress on those occassions when it ain't appropriate to be standing around with a can of beer. ;D But, around these parts, untaxed "sippin whiskey" is plentiful and negates the need to endure any "bloating". Also cures colds, moles, risin's & piles and makes childbirth a pleasure! ;)
Yeah, I really missed my usual sampling of that untaxed sippin whiskey at the Kentucky Rally this year. Just got to get there next year.
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Dean, Pat, Dave, George and I raised the jar in your honor.........sever al times ::)
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Dean, Pat, Dave, George and I raised the jar in your honor.........sever al times ::)
Thanks guys, I would do the same for you. Guaranteed!!!
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At the Blue Bell home of the north staffs branch of guzzi club GB we have had over 2500 different beers to try over the years, i promise i have and will continue to do my very best to keep up guzzi honour ;D , mines a pint of Timothy Taylors Landlord.
john
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At the Blue Bell home of the north staffs branch of guzzi club GB we have had over 2500 different beers to try over the years, i promise i have and will continue to do my very best to keep up guzzi honour ;D , mines a pint of Timothy Taylors Landlord.
john
Well that means you only have another 1,500 beers to go for the full set.
My favourite changes evey week but currenmtly it is this;
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/waylett/twits.jpg)
Nectar.
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(http://www.thecellardoor.it/photos/wines/57.jpg)
Better nectar.
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(http://www.thecellardoor.it/photos/wines/57.jpg)
Better nectar.
Great choice Holt!
Brought back 10 bottles this year. (My cousin's husband's family owns the vineyard ;D)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s180/ndicroce/DSC05639.jpg)
Saving this one for Christmas.
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I'm a Jaegermeister drinker myself, but for those few times that I do drink beer I prefer Leinenkugel's HoneyWeiss or Original. Even after they sold an interest to Miller, their beers have stayed consistantly good. If I'm drinking mixed drinks, it's Yellow label Beam and Coke in winter and Tanquer and Tonic in summer. Schnapps or Jaeger any time, any day.
Not a Beam snob, but it's about the only Rye Whiskey I can find around here.
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I'm a Jaegermeister drinker myself, but for those few times that I do drink beer I prefer Leinenkugel's HoneyWeiss or Original. Even after they sold an interest to Miller, their beers have stayed consistantly good. If I'm drinking mixed drinks, it's Yellow label Beam and Coke in winter and Tanquer and Tonic in summer. Schnapps or Jaeger any time, any day.
Not a Beam snob, but it's about the only Rye Whiskey I can find around here.
Jaegermeisters great if the beer gives you acid. A shot of that will kill it fast.
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guiness extra stout, and pabst blue ribbon. (PAULENER SALVATOR DOUBLE BOCK)
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Pilsner Urquell, Budweiiser Budvar (the real Czech one), Radegast. Yeah!
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Tiger
Brewed locally
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Boulevard Brewing (Kansas City) - Pale Ale, Unfiltered Wheat and Nutcracker seasonal. Used to drink it often when I lived in Omaha.
http://www.blvdbeer.com/index.cfm
Now I occasionally buy it at http://www.johnsgrocery.com/ and have it shipped to me in Florida :=)
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Keoki Brewing will be brewing Primo Beer again until the local swill is Kona Ale.
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BEST I HAVE EXPERIENCED :o
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/redhunter/BEEROEO.jpg)
http://www.ratebeer.com/Beer/harviestoun-old-engine-oil/9137/ (http://www.ratebeer.com/Beer/harviestoun-old-engine-oil/9137/)
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An open one :)
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Wow... the old thread has new life!
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Special Occasion Favorite:
Orval
(http://harveymushman.smugmug.com/photos/1697547-M.jpg)
Everyday Favorite:
Tupper's Hop Pocket Ale
(http://www.ijamming.net/wp-uploads/IMG_5076_01.jpg)
(http://harveymushman.smugmug.com/photos/119057596-L.jpg)
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The great thing is there are so many wonderful beers now, and it seems more every year. I just bought a 'vertical' 6-pack of aged J.W. Lee English ales, 11.5% alcohol. The ales are from 1998 through 2003, 1 bottle from each year, and the 6 pack only cost $50!? (It's my birthday present to self). I figure its about the equivalent of 3 $16 bottles of wine, and you only live once so what the hell.
Haven't even opened one yet, waiting for the actual B-day to arrive. But I'm sure I'll be enjoying myself when it does! ;D
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Lately been sippin on
Blue Moon Belgian White
Sierra Nevada Wheat (UMMMMMMMMMMMM)
Abita Jackamoo IPA and Christmas Ale (Local seasonal)
Once there is a chill in the air I'll mosey back to the Guiness extra stout
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BEST I HAVE EXPERIENCED :o
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/redhunter/BEEROEO.jpg)
http://www.ratebeer.com/Beer/harviestoun-old-engine-oil/9137/ (http://www.ratebeer.com/Beer/harviestoun-old-engine-oil/9137/)
I see someone is trying to start an oil thread. Do you recommend it for the hydraulic valve motors too?
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Then only American beers we usually get in the UK are Bud and Coors. The result is that American beer is unjustifiably ridiculed in the UK. by most bikers.
A while ago I saw some "Sierra Nevada" in a supermarket, I had heard of it through the forums so I thought I would try some. I didn't expect much, but was pleasantly surprised, it is a good beer.
Not the best I have ever drunk but a hell of a long way from the worst, I would be happy to drink that all night.
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Sierra Nevada is pretty widely available in the US, and is on tap at quite a few restaurants. It is one of my "standards", but I'm always trying something new. Sierra is a good example of a beer style called "California Ale", which is typically malty but with a lot more hops flavor and bitterness than most English beers. An acquired taste I suspect.
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...in no particular order...
Franziskaner (Germany...love weissbier)
Jaeger (Germany)
Estrella de Galicia (Spain)
Mahou (Spain)
Budweiser (Czech Republic...the real Budweiser)
Corona (Mexico)
Pilsner Urquell (Czech Republic)
Herold (Czech Republic)
Krusovice (Czech Republic...dark, malty beer)
Boddingtons (UK)
Duvell (Belgium)
Aguila (Spain)
Peroni (Italy)
Michelob (US)
Caffreys (Ireland)
...getting thirsty...pschhh... aaaaahhh, that's better, down the hatch and to your health!
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Wouldn't want to keep this one away from you guys. If you ever come to Bruges, give me a yell.
Daisy is quite a character
http://www.brugsbeertje.be/index_en.htm
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I lived in Aachen, Germany 2004-2005. Enough said......
Ja denke ich, dass ich ein anderes Bier bitte esse! :) ;D 8)
JJ
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Hey, this thread is back. Yes! ;D Well, like I said before, my favorite is Tecate. Could it be the fond memories of the girlfriends I had in Tijuana and Mexicali back in the day? Quite possibly.
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A cold Cruzcampo while having tapas in Southern Spain is about as good as it gets for me.
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Damn, did no one mention Sam Adams Black Lager? An awesome dark beer....With no overtime, I stick to Budlight....LOL.
Steve
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I live in the land of 3.2 beer. Strong beer can only be sold warm in a package store. My favorites are Bud Products, Tecate & Shiner Boch.
All the imports, and even Sam Adams taste like $hit here. If it's not fresh, it's not good, doesn't matter what the brand.
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ABITA ALE TURBO DOG
ADNAMS BROADSIDE ALE
AFFLIGEM TRIPEL ALE
ALLAGASH TRIPEL
ALLAGASH WHITE
ANCHOR LIBERTY ALE
ANCHOR PORTER
AVENTINUS WEIZEN EISBOCK
AYINGER CELEBRATOR DOUBLE BOCK
BEAR REPUBLIC BIG BEAR BLACK STOUT
BEAR REPUBLIC HOP ROD RYE ALE
BEAR REPUBLIC RACER 5 IPA
BEAR REPUBLIC RED ROCKET ALE
BEAR REPUBLIC XP PALE ALE
BELHAVEN SCOTTISH ALE
BELHAVEN TWISTED THISTLE IPA
BLACK DOUGLAS ALE
BOULDER HAZED & INFUSED
BOULDER MOJO
BROOKLYN LOCAL 1
BROOKLYN MONSTER ALE
CARIB LAGER
CASTELAIN
CHIMAY ALE BLUE
CHIMAY ALE RED
CHIMAY ALE WHITE
CHOUFFE HOUBLON IPA TRIPEL
CISCO BREWERS BAILEY’S ALE
CISCO BREWERS MOOR PORTER
CISCO BREWERS SUMMER OF LAGER
COOPERS VINTAGE ALE
CORSENDONK ABBEY BROWN ALE
CORSENDONK ABBEY PALE ALE
DALE’S PALE ALE
DARK ISLAND DARK ALE
DILIRIUM TREMENS
DRAGON’S MILK ALE
DUCK RABBIT AMBER ALE
DUCK RABBIT PORTER
DUVEL BELGIAN GOLDEN ALE
FLYING DOG CLASSIC PALE ALE
FLYING DOG DOUBLE DOG ALE
HACKER-PSCHORR WEISSE
HEAVY SEAS LOOSE CANNON
HEAVY SEAS PEG LEG
HEAVY SEAS SMALL CRAFT WARNING
HIGHLAND GAELIC ALE
HOEGAARDEN
KAPUZINER BAVARIAN HEFEWEIZEN
KASTEEL ROUGE
KULMBACHER EISBOCK
LAGUNITAS MAXIMUS IPA
LAGUNITAS PILS
LINDEMANS FRAMBOISE LAMBIC
LOZEN BOER
MAD RIVER STEELHEAD
MALHEUR 10
MORIMOTO SOBA ALE
OLD CHUB SCOTTISH STYLE ALE
OLD JOCK ALE
OLD RASPUTIN RUSSIAN IMPERIAL STOUT
OLD SPECKLED HEN ENGLISH FINE ALE
PAULANER HEFE-WEIZEN
PILGRIM’S DOLE WHEATWINE
PLANK BAVARIAN HEFEWEIZEN
PLANK BAVARIAN WEIZENBOCK
RAVEN’S EYE IMPERIAL STOUT
RED SEAL ALE
RED TAIL ALE
REINAERT FLEMISH WILD ALE
ROGUE AMERICAN AMBER ALE
ROGUE BRUTAL BITTER
ROGUE CHOCOLATE STOUT
ROGUE DEAD GUY ALE
ROGUE DEAD GUY ALE 1/2 GAL
ROGUE HAZELNUT BROWN NECTAR
ROGUE IMPERIAL PILSNER
ROGUE IMPERIAL STOUT
ROGUE SHAKESPEARE STOUT
SAISON DUPONT
SAISON IMPERIALE Belgian Farmhouse Ale
SAM SMITH NUT BROWN ALE
SAM SMITH OATMEAL STOUT
SAM SMITH OLD BREWERY PALE ALE
SAMICHLAUS
SAMUEL ADAMS BLACK LAGER
SAMUEL ADAMS BOSTON LAGER
SAMUEL ADAMS CHERRY WHEAT
SIERRA NEVADA PALE ALE
SIGNATURE ALE
SOUTHAMPTON BRAND SECRET ALE
SOUTHAMPTON DOUBLE WHITE ALE
SPATEN OPTIMATOR
STOUDTS DOUBLE IPA
STOUDTS FAT DOG
STOUDTS GOLD LAGER
STOUDTS PILS
TENNENT’S OF SCOTLAND
TERRAPIN RYE PALE ALE
THE POET OATMEAL STOUT
THEAKSTONS OLD PECULIAR
THIRIEZ AMBER ALE
THOMAS HARDY'S ALE 2005
THOMAS HARDY'S ALE 2007
THREE PHILOSOPHERS
VICTORY HOP DEVIL ALE
VICTORY PRIMA PILS
VICTORY STORM KING STOUT
WEIHENSTEPHANER HEFEWEISSBIER DARK
WEIHENSTEPHANER KRISTALL WEISSBIER
WEIHENSTEPHANER ORIGINAL PREMIUM
WESTMALLE TRAPPIST DUBBEL
WESTMALLE TRAPPIST TRIPEL
YOUNGS DOUBLE CHOCOLATE STOUT
ZOETZUUR FLEMISH ALE
Did I say "I like beer".
Seriousely the Youngs Double Chocolate Stout , and the Black Douglas Ale are my current favorites.
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I live in the land of 3.2 beer. Strong beer can only be sold warm in a package store.
Good god man, get a cooler and buy it warm then!
Bud products you say? Such shyte shall never darken my lips....life is WAY TOO short for that.
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ABITA ALE TURBO DOG
ADNAMS BROADSIDE ALE
AFFLIGEM TRIPEL ALE
ALLAGASH TRIPEL
ALLAGASH WHITE
ANCHOR LIBERTY ALE
ANCHOR PORTER
AVENTINUS WEIZEN EISBOCK
AYINGER CELEBRATOR DOUBLE BOCK
BEAR REPUBLIC BIG BEAR BLACK STOUT
BEAR REPUBLIC HOP ROD RYE ALE
BEAR REPUBLIC RACER 5 IPA
BEAR REPUBLIC RED ROCKET ALE
BEAR REPUBLIC XP PALE ALE
BELHAVEN SCOTTISH ALE
BELHAVEN TWISTED THISTLE IPA
BLACK DOUGLAS ALE
BOULDER HAZED & INFUSED
BOULDER MOJO
BROOKLYN LOCAL 1
BROOKLYN MONSTER ALE
CARIB LAGER
CASTELAIN
CHIMAY ALE BLUE
CHIMAY ALE RED
CHIMAY ALE WHITE
CHOUFFE HOUBLON IPA TRIPEL
CISCO BREWERS BAILEY’S ALE
CISCO BREWERS MOOR PORTER
CISCO BREWERS SUMMER OF LAGER
COOPERS VINTAGE ALE
CORSENDONK ABBEY BROWN ALE
CORSENDONK ABBEY PALE ALE
DALE’S PALE ALE
DARK ISLAND DARK ALE
DILIRIUM TREMENS
DRAGON’S MILK ALE
DUCK RABBIT AMBER ALE
DUCK RABBIT PORTER
DUVEL BELGIAN GOLDEN ALE
FLYING DOG CLASSIC PALE ALE
FLYING DOG DOUBLE DOG ALE
HACKER-PSCHORR WEISSE
HEAVY SEAS LOOSE CANNON
HEAVY SEAS PEG LEG
HEAVY SEAS SMALL CRAFT WARNING
HIGHLAND GAELIC ALE
HOEGAARDEN
KAPUZINER BAVARIAN HEFEWEIZEN
KASTEEL ROUGE
KULMBACHER EISBOCK
LAGUNITAS MAXIMUS IPA
LAGUNITAS PILS
LINDEMANS FRAMBOISE LAMBIC
LOZEN BOER
MAD RIVER STEELHEAD
MALHEUR 10
MORIMOTO SOBA ALE
OLD CHUB SCOTTISH STYLE ALE
OLD JOCK ALE
OLD RASPUTIN RUSSIAN IMPERIAL STOUT
OLD SPECKLED HEN ENGLISH FINE ALE
PAULANER HEFE-WEIZEN
PILGRIM’S DOLE WHEATWINE
PLANK BAVARIAN HEFEWEIZEN
PLANK BAVARIAN WEIZENBOCK
RAVEN’S EYE IMPERIAL STOUT
RED SEAL ALE
RED TAIL ALE
REINAERT FLEMISH WILD ALE
ROGUE AMERICAN AMBER ALE
ROGUE BRUTAL BITTER
ROGUE CHOCOLATE STOUT
ROGUE DEAD GUY ALE
ROGUE DEAD GUY ALE 1/2 GAL
ROGUE HAZELNUT BROWN NECTAR
ROGUE IMPERIAL PILSNER
ROGUE IMPERIAL STOUT
ROGUE SHAKESPEARE STOUT
SAISON DUPONT
SAISON IMPERIALE Belgian Farmhouse Ale
SAM SMITH NUT BROWN ALE
SAM SMITH OATMEAL STOUT
SAM SMITH OLD BREWERY PALE ALE
SAMICHLAUS
SAMUEL ADAMS BLACK LAGER
SAMUEL ADAMS BOSTON LAGER
SAMUEL ADAMS CHERRY WHEAT
SIERRA NEVADA PALE ALE
SIGNATURE ALE
SOUTHAMPTON BRAND SECRET ALE
SOUTHAMPTON DOUBLE WHITE ALE
SPATEN OPTIMATOR
STOUDTS DOUBLE IPA
STOUDTS FAT DOG
STOUDTS GOLD LAGER
STOUDTS PILS
TENNENT’S OF SCOTLAND
TERRAPIN RYE PALE ALE
THE POET OATMEAL STOUT
THEAKSTONS OLD PECULIAR
THIRIEZ AMBER ALE
THOMAS HARDY'S ALE 2005
THOMAS HARDY'S ALE 2007
THREE PHILOSOPHERS
VICTORY HOP DEVIL ALE
VICTORY PRIMA PILS
VICTORY STORM KING STOUT
WEIHENSTEPHANER HEFEWEISSBIER DARK
WEIHENSTEPHANER KRISTALL WEISSBIER
WEIHENSTEPHANER ORIGINAL PREMIUM
WESTMALLE TRAPPIST DUBBEL
WESTMALLE TRAPPIST TRIPEL
YOUNGS DOUBLE CHOCOLATE STOUT
ZOETZUUR FLEMISH ALE
Hard to argue with that list. Drinking all of those is good work if you can get it. Definitely a few there I haven't had the pleasure of, but fortunately "few" is the operative word! ;D
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I live in the land of 3.2 beer. Strong beer can only be sold warm in a package store.
Good god man, get a cooler and buy it warm then!
Bud products you say? Such shyte shall never darken my lips....life is WAY TOO short for that.
Dude, beer that's been sitting warm is crap- any brand. Add time from the east coast or Europe and it's crapier crap. Bud is consistently the best, freshest beer you can buy here. And you won't find fresher beer anywhere in the USA short of a Brew Pub. In fact, I've never had a good bottle Heineken in my life- anywhere. I've had wonderful Sam Adams in the east, it's just terrible here (I bought a six pack last week and couldn't finish the first one).
MO, Fresh beer is better than most brand differences.
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The Sam Adams Summer Brew was pretty good, it was the Boston Lauger that I was talking about.
Tecate is usualy pretty good here, and but for that, I can't stand canned beer.
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MO, Fresh beer is better than most brand differences.
So True -
another thing that kills beer is light. Beware clear bottles (or slow sellers) in the lit display cooler....
Current local favorite is Deschutes Twilight Ale :P
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Then there's always the Peroni La Dolce Vita video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmdT5aNx51I
The beer is not bad, either.
Rich A
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Oh, and this one, too (Peroni Nastro Azzuro Calendario):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw91AegxE5k&feature=related
RA
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"COLD BEER" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I strongly recommend tasting the three Rochefort beers at one setting, to make up your mind which is best.
They're darn good, I really don't know which I'd prefer ???
I used to prefer Duvel above any other beer I've tasted, now I'm not so certain anymore.
Note that the great Belgian beers should not be served too cold, about 10C / 50F seems to bring out the best in them.
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A picture worth a 1000 words!
My long time riding buddy from Chandler, AZ, Pat Carr and me enjoying a cold one (KONIG's PILSNER) in Koln, Germany!
Mmmmmmm....boy!
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn287/johncerilli/100_0056.jpg)
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Fulsang, Haderslev, Denmark.
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I live in the land of 3.2 beer. Strong beer can only be sold warm in a package store.
Good god man, get a cooler and buy it warm then!
Bud products you say? Such shyte shall never darken my lips....life is WAY TOO short for that.
Dude, beer that's been sitting warm is crap- any brand. Add time from the east coast or Europe and it's crapier crap. Bud is consistently the best, freshest beer you can buy here. And you won't find fresher beer anywhere in the USA short of a Brew Pub. In fact, I've never had a good bottle Heineken in my life- anywhere. I've had wonderful Sam Adams in the east, it's just terrible here (I bought a six pack last week and couldn't finish the first one).
MO, Fresh beer is better than most brand differences.
To each his own, but that freshness stuff is mostly guys in the advertising room trying to figure out a way to promote their mediocre beer. Most alcoholic beverages improve, and cost more the older they are; wine, port, scotch, whatever. Same definitely holds true for my homebrew. A 2 month old bottle isn't ready to drink. Give it about 6 more months and it will test dramatically better. And I'll take a warm, 10 year old bottle of Afligem Triple over a fresh Bud anyday. ;D
Age can certainly matter with beer, but if it is stored properly (out of the sun and heat, and in a brown rather than clear or green bottle) it will last a very long time.
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Beer, Bourbon, and BBQ, this weekend. 60 beers, 40 bourbons. To quote the Irish Sgt. in "Fort Apache" when told to destory the Indian traders whiskey "Well boys, we got a mans work ahead of us." They "destroyed " it in the only way a good Irishman would.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCpGpaLiBQs&feature=related
This clip ends just before the order is given.
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Consumed at the Bohemian Hall, Queens, NY
http://www.bohemianhall.com (http://www.bohemianhall.com)
In no particular order:
Staropramen (Czech)
Pilsner Urquell (Czech)
Saris (Slovak)
Topvar (Slovak)
Zlaty Bazant (Slovak)
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McEwan's or Caledonian 80 in Scotland
Beamish, Guiness, Murphy's in Ireland
Locally, I like Stone Pale Ale and Shipyard Export Ale.
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For me the good stuff is an `artisan' product, and I don't really expect it to be identical from one batch to the next, so I wouldn't care to be on record with a specific favorite. Pike Brewing has been responsible for some of my past favorites, though.
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Damned diabetes.... >:( This thread is torture. Oh well, there are no carbs in martinis.
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I live in the land of 3.2 beer. Strong beer can only be sold warm in a package store.
Good god man, get a cooler and buy it warm then!
Bud products you say? Such shyte shall never darken my lips....life is WAY TOO short for that.
Dude, beer that's been sitting warm is crap- any brand. Add time from the east coast or Europe and it's crapier crap. Bud is consistently the best, freshest beer you can buy here. And you won't find fresher beer anywhere in the USA short of a Brew Pub. In fact, I've never had a good bottle Heineken in my life- anywhere. I've had wonderful Sam Adams in the east, it's just terrible here (I bought a six pack last week and couldn't finish the first one).
MO, Fresh beer is better than most brand differences.
To each his own, but that freshness stuff is mostly guys in the advertising room trying to figure out a way to promote their mediocre beer. Age can certainly matter with beer, but if it is stored properly (out of the sun and heat, and in a brown rather than clear or green bottle) it will last a very long time.
cheers to that ! pilser urquell and duvel.
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In bottled conditioned beer as long as the yeast is active you're ok, it's when they die the deterioration begins. Constant temerature is the key to keeping the yeasts alive and active. I am not a home brewer but this is what I was taught.
If it is stored dark and cold it can last, but by the time a german import makes it cross the pond on a container ship, sits in a Hoboken warehouse for a couple weeks before winding its way across country in a semi, then sits in a distributors warehouse for a spell - then spends a week being bombarded by florescent light in the store, there is some compromise in flavor :P
I have had some great bottled imports, but the less popular varieties were wildly variable.
Among the better and more consistant
Harp lager
Newcastle Brown
Sam Smiths Ales
Dos Equis XX - although I once poured a mouse out of a bottle - never touched one since :o
Paulaner Salvatore
Since the local brewing scene has blossomed I don't even bother with foreign beer.
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In bottled conditioned beer as long as the yeast is active you're ok, it's when they die the deterioration begins. Constant temerature is the key to keeping the yeasts alive and active. I am not a home brewer but this is what I was taught.
If it is stored dark and cold it can last, but by the time a german import makes it cross the pond on a container ship, sits in a Hoboken warehouse for a couple weeks before winding its way across country in a semi, then sits in a distributors warehouse for a spell - then spends a week being bombarded by florescent light in the store, there is some compromise in flavor :P
I have had some great bottled imports, but the less popular varieties were wildly variable.
Among the better and more consistant
Harp lager
Newcastle Brown
Sam Smiths Ales
Dos Equis XX - although I once poured a mouse out of a bottle - never touched one since :o
Paulaner Salvatore
Since the local brewing scene has blossomed I don't even bother with foreign beer.
That's why the only imports I buy are Mexican.
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Dos Equis XX - although I once poured a mouse out of a bottle - never touched one since :o
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That's why the only imports I buy are Mexican.
Not for me, man, I'm a vegetarian.
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My favorite is the one in my hand right now. Actually it is on the night stand since I type with both hands, not one finger. 8)
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Wernesgruener Pils....The "Pilslegende", one of the best beers from Germany.
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Magic Hat #9, brewed in Burlington, VT. Can't get it down here in Knoxville yet! Been waiting for 6 years. The old standby is Guiness. Been drinking some Budweiser lately while it's still an American brand.
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I'm a hop and a skip from Bean town, so gotta go with Sam Adam's seasonals (summer & winter ale). After that, good 'ol Stella..sm-o-o-oth and loaded! ;D
As a matter of fact, got a nice frosty mug 'o summer ale sweating on the desk right now.... ::)
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The Spoetzl Brewery in Shiner TX is just a few miles (by our standards) down the road from me. Whatever little watering hole I stop at, I can at least get a fairly decent dark brew.
Shiner Bock
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Wooo I have sampled beer nirvana. Dark Lord Stout. Anything else is just beer
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After thinking about this, the best beer for me is the one at the end of a 300-500 mile day with a few good buddies, label doesn't really matter just chilled and plentiful. That is when I enjoy beer the most.
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The Spoetzl Brewery in Shiner TX is just a few miles (by our standards) down the road from me. Whatever little watering hole I stop at, I can at least get a fairly decent dark brew.
Shiner Bock
Ditto. AND it is not expensive. I do know a fellow who claims he "got the gout" from Shiner Bock, though.
HOWEVER, the Standard Hydraulic Sandwich remains Guiness on draft. Disturbingly, though, the quality seems to fall off exponentially at distances away from Dublin.
We took the kids to London about 8 years ago, and on Day 3 I developed MASSIVE leg cramps while doing the standard Yank Tourist Sprinting. The wife finally figured-out that I had drunk nothing but coffee and Guinness (both pretty good diuretics) since the moment we landed. I was literally downing about 5 or 6 pints of Guinness every day, starting before lunch. Yummy. So, a quick quart or two of water fixed me right up, and I could get back to my regimen.
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I'm not sure of what has been previously posted regarding why beer deteriorates, but all that happens when beers get warm is that they age faster. What makes beer skunky is that when light hits beer in green or clear bottles, the hops start to photosynthesize and produce off flavors and aroma. I am partial to Stone Brewery products and Sierra Nevada's Anniversary Ale (out now) is simply wonderful.
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We've got a lot of good microbrews in Colorado, but my favorite "old stand by" beer is Abita Amber from Louisiana.
Just like buttered toast goes with breakfast, an Abita goes with arriving home from work.
I usually pour it from a foot or so above into an oversized glass to get rid of most of the carbonation first, though. Less fizz, more flavour.
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I treat myself with Amber Bock on Sundays. The rest of the weekdays it is just Millers Lite. Millers Lite has less calories, is low in carbs, and the alcohol content is a mere 4.5; tastes great too.
Yours pedestrean beer drinker.
M Khan
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Probably the IPA ageing in my bathroom. I keep telling myself I'll bottle it sooner or later...
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Probably the IPA ageing in my bathroom. I keep telling myself I'll bottle it sooner or later...
You brew in it in your bathroom, how convenient, it is going to end up there anyway. ;-T
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Hacker-Pschorr Original Oktoberfest preferably on Tap
New Belgium Fat Tire Amber Ale - Can't get it in NJ though ::(
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Quilmes, no doubt about it.
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I live in the land of 3.2 beer. Strong beer can only be sold warm in a package store.
Good god man, get a cooler and buy it warm then!
Bud products you say? Such shyte shall never darken my lips....life is WAY TOO short for that.
Dude, beer that's been sitting warm is crap- any brand. Add time from the east coast or Europe and it's crapier crap. Bud is consistently the best, freshest beer you can buy here. And you won't find fresher beer anywhere in the USA short of a Brew Pub. In fact, I've never had a good bottle Heineken in my life- anywhere. I've had wonderful Sam Adams in the east, it's just terrible here (I bought a six pack last week and couldn't finish the first one).
MO, Fresh beer is better than most brand differences.
To each his own, but that freshness stuff is mostly guys in the advertising room trying to figure out a way to promote their mediocre beer. Most alcoholic beverages improve, and cost more the older they are; wine, port, scotch, whatever. Same definitely holds true for my homebrew. A 2 month old bottle isn't ready to drink. Give it about 6 more months and it will test dramatically better. And I'll take a warm, 10 year old bottle of Afligem Triple over a fresh Bud anyday. ;D
Age can certainly matter with beer, but if it is stored properly (out of the sun and heat, and in a brown rather than clear or green bottle) it will last a very long time.
beer doesnt get better with age. no way. Best brand beers I've had is Anchor Steam and Sam Adams. But here the heartland, warm in package stores, forget it. Just taste like crap. Even tap beer is usually too old here to taste good.
It just taste the same. Fresh beer is better regardless of brand.
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Franziskanner or Weihenstephaner Heffeweizen Dunkel or a beer that is put in front of me....
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Franziskanner or Weihenstephaner Heffeweizen Dunkel or a beer that is put in front of me....
Oh yeah, did Frank ever love the wheat beers when he was in Seattle last summer! :BEER:
I always wondered how he and the Nevada made it back to Minnesota! :D
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To taste my favorite beer on tap, I would have to fly to Munich, take the S5 train to Heershing, and take a taxi to the Andechs Monastary on top of the hill.
One twist of the handle of the large wooden vats released the perfect amount of beer and foam into the 1/2 liter glasses.
Their Doppelbock went down with waves and waves of malt running over my tongue. Never experienced anything like that before. Their Helles was also most impressive.
Those guys know their beer!
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That's what's required for twisties.....
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just cold.
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I live in the land of 3.2 beer. Strong beer can only be sold warm in a package store.
Good god man, get a cooler and buy it warm then!
Bud products you say? Such shyte shall never darken my lips....life is WAY TOO short for that.
Dude, beer that's been sitting warm is crap- any brand. Add time from the east coast or Europe and it's crapier crap. Bud is consistently the best, freshest beer you can buy here. And you won't find fresher beer anywhere in the USA short of a Brew Pub. In fact, I've never had a good bottle Heineken in my life- anywhere. I've had wonderful Sam Adams in the east, it's just terrible here (I bought a six pack last week and couldn't finish the first one).
MO, Fresh beer is better than most brand differences.
To each his own, but that freshness stuff is mostly guys in the advertising room trying to figure out a way to promote their mediocre beer. Most alcoholic beverages improve, and cost more the older they are; wine, port, scotch, whatever. Same definitely holds true for my homebrew. A 2 month old bottle isn't ready to drink. Give it about 6 more months and it will test dramatically better. And I'll take a warm, 10 year old bottle of Afligem Triple over a fresh Bud anyday. ;D
Age can certainly matter with beer, but if it is stored properly (out of the sun and heat, and in a brown rather than clear or green bottle) it will last a very long time.
beer doesnt get better with age. no way. Best brand beers I've had is Anchor Steam and Sam Adams. But here the heartland, warm in package stores, forget it. Just taste like crap. Even tap beer is usually too old here to taste good.
It just taste the same. Fresh beer is better regardless of brand.
Lowryter, See this article:.
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/101/store
Your blanket statement that beer doesn't improve with age is incorrect, but may be correct for the beers that you enjoy.
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So I finally got my case of Westvleteren XII after a year of waiting. Opened it, and abruptly discovered why it has been voted the worlds best beer.
After this discovery, it had gotten me thinking. How many of us here enjoy "the good stuff", and what is your favorite?
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There are two readily available types of beer. Good beer and Better beer.
There is also the most ellusive and enjoyable sort which is
FREE BEER!!!!
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So I finally got my case of Westvleteren XII after a year of waiting. Opened it, and abruptly discovered why it has been voted the worlds best beer.
After this discovery, it had gotten me thinking. How many of us here enjoy "the good stuff", and what is your favorite?
A few years ago, my friends introduced me to the wonderful world of micro-breweries.
I wasn't much of a drinker, and I still wouldn't consider myself one (at least in the "heavy drinker" sense), but I do enjoy "the good stuff". I used to just drink the typical piss water: Bud Light, Michelob Ultra, Coors Light, PBR, etc. There's no other way to describe that stuff than just your typical, mainstream piss water.
These days it's all about the "fancy beers", and I like to sample a bit of everything when I travel (no drinking while riding, and if I'm driving, I'm strict about limiting myself; otherwise I just grab a bit of whatever and bring it home).
But to be honest, my current favorite is brewed right here in the good ol' Quad Cities. It's known as Uncommon Stout: a dark, 6.5% beer with a heavy coffee flavor, brewed at Bent River Brewery in Moline, Illinois.
(Beer Advocate Review)
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/5443/19174
Another similar beer is Redband Stout, brewed right here in Davenport, Iowa at Great River Brewery. It, too, has a strong coffee flavor, but is a bit sweeter and stronger in flavor than Uncommon from Bent.
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/23052/66492/
In fact, I'm tippin' back on a glass of Uncommon from my growler as I write this. :BEER:
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Stouts and Porters rule!
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Stouts and Porters rule!
Ill drink to that!
:BEER:
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A really nice smooth stout is Marstouns Oyster Stout. Goes with anything, and is probably the smoothest beer I've ever had.
Another one to give a try if you can find it, is Harviestoun's Ola Dubh 18yr, and 30yr. In fact, anything from them is ridiculously good!
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He said there is only good beer and better beer. This could only be the opinion of one who has never tasted
Grizzly beer from Canada, aptly named, or Panda beer from China, one of the mysteries of the East.
If any of you have tasted either of these, please add your opinion of their, er, taste.
And what you did after trying it.
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And what you did after trying it.
My guess would be something involving a mop and a bucket... :D
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Samuel Adams Triple Bock.
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My favorite are pilsners(Becks or Urquell). I support the local microbreweries efforts but they usually do more along the lines of ales. Their versions of pilsners generally are too heavy not crisp enough. Like the IPAs when at the locals. Witkerke has my vote for wheat beer. Not beer but we have a local distillery that does a super vodka. Valentines. 2 versions plus a 1st batch of gin. I'd put it against any foreign or premium brand vodka.
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So I finally got my case of Westvleteren XII after a year of waiting. Opened it, and abruptly discovered why it has been voted the worlds best beer.
After this discovery, it had gotten me thinking. How many of us here enjoy "the good stuff", and what is your favorite?
Good, Certainly, but I'd say its unavailability has led to a hyping of its quality.
YMMV and all that.
And, cheers!
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Good we haven't had a beer thread for a while, I like beer.
Just got back from the Parish brewery in Leicestershire, England. Baz the owner/brewer is a bit of a character and brews his Bonce Blower beer at 12%. This is stuck on top of the bar with a 'come on if your hard enough' aura about it. Three half pints are your limit (after consultation with the local constabulary) and to be fair that's enough.
The taste is unusual with a hint of cough linctus, aircraft fuel and hot tarmac.
Not for the faint hearted or anyone really that's sane.
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Most overlooked Beer and only available in certain regions of the US. No it is not an Asian Beer Originally from the oldest brewery in the US, Pottstown PA. They are expanding and thankfully for me took over the old Schlitz brewery in Tampa and business is good they are expanding that site. My everyday beer is the Black and Tan
Good quality American beer at piss water prices. Even the Light is pretty darn good.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d101/draidt/DanRaidt/beer.jpg)
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I've moved on (up?) to IPAs, but wonder what the next step is, or even if there is one. :BEER:
Lagers are entry drugs to the "hard stuff" that come later, IMHO. After IPAs, lagers seem like "having sex in a boat", if y'all know that old saying.
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My guess would be something involving a mop and a bucket... :D
Good one.
Matt
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I love trying beer from micro breweries when traveling. One of my favorites is the Dodging Duck in Boerne, Texas, right in the heart of the Hill Country and great motorcycling roads. I really don't have a favorite beer. :BEER:
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All beer is good :)
Lately I've been in to the Dogfish beers coming out of DE. Actually the guy is from Charleston, SC so maybe it's the local connection, but both the 60 and 90 are good stuff.
Now here's a trick adder to the original question. When riding I need can beer for packing purposes. So what't the best can beer out there? For me it's two of the Oskar beers out of CO: Mam's Pils and Dale's Pale Ale. Both available at the IGA's on the way to Cruso too!
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;D
Though I'm a man of simple taste, and do prefer German Lager; best of all the Radeberger.
(http://www.primadiscount.de/images/radebergpils20x05flkiweb.jpg)
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Like redbirds, when we travel we seek out microbrews based on recommendations from locals who are also beer enthusiasts. If available, we will purchase sampler trays--Sandy will generally end up drinking my wheat beer & Belgium-style beer samples in trade for her IPA's, but we will both at least try each one of the beers. We used to (and sometimes still do) visit wineries to sample wines--now we enjoy the beer sampling more.
In grad school my housemate and I would organize double-blind beer tasting events for our fellow grad students; we would rank the beers and give awards (in the form of free beer) to the individuals who brought the winners. Pilsner Urquell was a frequent "light" beer and overall beer winner.
Lately I've been favoring malty Brit ales such as Belhaven Scottish Ale. I also love Sam Smith's outmeal stout.
New Belgium Fat tire is also pretty good.
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Last week I opened a beer that was given to me six months ago by a friend at a function we attended. It was a large size bottle of " Three Philosophers " .. It was very good and very interesting (expensive) ! I like porters and stouts(which are the same with different names) . The Rogue stouts and porters brewed in Newport , Oregon are very good and tasty.
Roberto.
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New Castle Brown Ale, when my ulcer lets me :BEER:
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I like IPA's a bunch Porters and Stouts. And not in that order
When i was a kid my Opa from Wiesbaden came to visit he drank some of our American beer this was in the 70's
and said it was for pregnant women I did not drink then but i always remembered that
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We have a couple of beers up here that have been receiving over the top praise from the beer enthusiast sites. One brewery is called Hill Farmstead, we had guests go up there last weekend to find a 4 hour wait to buy beer. The other started as a brewpub but due to Hurricane Irene is now simply a microbrewery, The Alchemist, their only product now being a double IPA called Heady Topper. While I can appreciate the quality of these, and take for granted their availability while beer geeks from across the country would give up body parts for a steady supply, I find them overly hoppy; good for one, but I have to move on to something a little lighter to balance things out.
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/22511/57886/
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/27039/16814
I've always loved Belgian beers, and my current taste runs to Rodenbach Flemish Sour Ale, very tart, almost like a hard cider, great to drink in the summer: as far as style, the polar opposite of the IPA's currently creating such a stir in Vermont.
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/216/673
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i5k4I1AOEI
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There are two readily available types of beer. Good beer and Better beer.
There is also the most ellusive and enjoyable sort which is
FREE BEER!!!!
Agreed (+1). There is nothing better than a fresh, local draft beer from anywhere in Germany! This one (Bit Burger) is from Aachen :) 8) ;-T
(http://s17.postimage.org/cs8jitiez/IMG_7078.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/cs8jitiez/)
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Kutztown Birch Beer was traditionally made from birch oil distilled from the sap of the black birch tree. Today our Birch Beer is made from the finest birch oil available. In traditional clear glass bottles!
(http://s14.postimage.org/e911xui19/birchglass.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/e911xui19/)
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Two of my absolute favorites from right here in the great NW are from the Deschutes Brewery in Bend, OR.
Obsidian Stout:
http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/brew/obsidian-stout
Black Butte Porter:
http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/brew/black-butte-porter
Regards,
Jeff
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I like em all, but if you're a hop head, Bell's Hopslam is da bomb. Just made in the Spring, sells out immediately. If you have a chance, give it a go.
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So I finally got my case of Westvleteren XII after a year of waiting. Opened it, and abruptly discovered why it has been voted the worlds best beer.
After this discovery, it had gotten me thinking. How many of us here enjoy "the good stuff", and what is your favorite?
Pilsner Urquell is my favourite!
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Arrogant Bastard out of San Diego.
Agree about the Yuengling offerings.
Also agree with lagers as entry drugs to the hard stuff...IPA's.
Local micro here, Rohrbachers has an exceptional scotch ale :drool
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Good, Certainly, but I'd say its unavailability has led to a hyping of its quality.
YMMV and all that.
And, cheers!
Ha! I remember years ago when you couldn't buy Coors east of the Mississippi, everybody raved about it. I was disappointed when it came to WI and I tried it. They did have some really cool looking cans.
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It wasn't until a trip to Germany that I found there was beer that actually tasted GOOD. The typical American rice syrup based stuff is crap. (though it has its points when it is ice cold and you have been outside in the summer heat).
So after that trip, I started home brewing. I could never get the beer exactly like I wanted it, but I keep trying. Few experiments go to waste. :BEER:
In the trip to the national in Virginia, I picked up some Vienna lager from the Devils Backbone brewery up there. That was pretty good stuff.
Sweetwater 420 here in Atlanta is pretty good.
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I know I'll get beat up about this, but yesterday afternoon we went to the big city for some errands. It was stinkin' hot, and I had a craving for a really cold beer. I ordered up a Corona in a frosted glass with salted edges and lime. It sure hit the spot and so did the second one. I especially enjoyed the salt yesterday; my body must have needed it.
I sampled every Alaskan beer that was available (in season) a few summers ago. They make some tasty offerings, but we can't get it here yet.
My taste in beer is seasonal, meaning I like different beers at different times of the year, but I'll drink anything if it's free ;D
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My two favorites right now:
Anderson Valley - Summer Solstice Cerveza Crema
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/193/23506
and
Fordham Brewing - Copperhead Ale
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1512/4043
Beer Advocate says Maryland but I think Fordham comes out of Dover, DE now.
I am a beleiver that almost all beer has it's purpose - even the Macro Brews that snobs like to crap on. Sure the mass produced beers have WAY less flavor, but they seem to work better for things like tailgate activities or those times when drinking en mass (Bud Light, Miller Light, Coors Light, etc). Conversely, the micros and nanos fit better with lower volume, one to thre beer activites, especially given the frequency of significantly higher alchohol contents in many micros. Then there is the middle ground of imports and beers like Yuengling. More taste, decent prices, and generally easy to drink. I consider these the all-arounders; stuff like XX, Labatts, Stella, Amstel, Yuengling, Mooshead etc.
Then there are the beers I just dont like - most IPAs fit into this group for me, but some I enjoy, I also dont care for the micros that go overboard with too much fake fruit flavor (a general fault of Pumpkin beers).
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+1 on the Yuengling! Sunday I was at the store and grabbed a Dundee's sampler-IPA, stout, pilsner and bock lager, which are quite good, BTw, and saw a couple perusing the beers. The gal was wearing a Yuengling t-shirt so I struck up a conversation. Not available here in STL but when I visit friends in TN that's what I drink. When my son lived in VA we always got some Yuengling. Sadly he now lives in MS and until July 1 they were not allowed any beer over 5%. Their beer selections are poor to lousy!
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Now here's a trick adder to the original question. When riding I need can beer for packing purposes. So what't the best can beer out there? For me it's two of the Oskar beers out of CO: Mam's Pils and Dale's Pale Ale.
I like "Bitter American
(http://www.hunterdonbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/BitterAmerican-2.jpg)
Might not be as readily available, our grocery lists it as "seasonal".
Right now we're in the middle of a pack of "Churchkey", a local Pilsener in plain steel cans. I'm not sure why ... I mean, I know why we're drinking it, but why steel? It came with an opener, of the classic style after which it's named. It was sadly unable to get purchase on the can, but the thought was nice. And the beer was decent.
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Funny to see the high praise for Yuengling. I went to college about 1/2 hour from the brewery and we drank it not because it was good, but because it was cheap. A case of Bud was deemed "better" on account of it costing about 50% more than the "Yingers". That being said I remember for a marketing class coming up with a plan for Yuengling to go national based on its history and quality, you have to admire what the brewery has done in the past 25 years.
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If you've never tried Cave Creek chili beer.... don't. ~; ;D
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All beer is good :)
Now here's a trick adder to the original question. When riding I need can beer for packing purposes. So what't the best can beer out there?
Ranger IPA is now available in a can. Great on the trout stream!
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O.K., not a beer snob, don't know the difference between a lager or a pilsner, don't know what IPA stands for.....
..years ago, I was in Wi. and had a Hielmanns Old Style, on tap. I really liked it. Thought about it over the years, and when I found myself outside of Chicago a few years ago, I thought I would try to find Old Style again.
I found it, and come to find out it is one of the better $3 six packs out there... ;D
Anyway, I like Yuengling, but my brother introduced me to Shiner Bock.
I LIKE Shiner Bock.
...but then again I like American Motors, Guzzis, stray cats...
kjf
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Was out in Montana last summer and tried Salmon Fly Honey Rye.... LOVED it, very smooth and refreshing - but then again I'm not a huge fan of rich, heavy beers: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/11972/25162/
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O.K., not a beer snob, don't know the difference between a lager or a pilsner, don't know what IPA stands for.....
India Pale Ale - the Brits put in LOTS of hops in the casks bound for India by boat, to help preserve the beer (bacteria don't like hop bitterness).
IPA currently stands for the most over-hyped style in existence in the USA. Too many hops, not enough malt flavor. YMMV.
The best beers I've had were all on tap in Germany. From the bitterness of Hamburg's beers to the maltiness of Bavaria.
The crowning beer came at a monastery south and west of Munich. Andech's was a most amazing place with beers being poured from a faucet, out of a LARGE wooden cask, with one turn. Perfect foam with malt flavor that went over the tongue like waves from a tsunami. It was heaven on earth. The bock and helles were awesome.
Back to reality here, most micro's make good porters or ambers, and they are my current choices.
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If you've never tried Cave Creek chili beer.... don't. ~; ;D
Agreed (+1) Yes, that is dreadful! :o ??? ::)
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Remember the little stubby green little Genesse Cream Ale bottles?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iandavid/7275382786/
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I've always found good beer at local microbreweries, and assumed that it was great just because it was made carefully in small batches. Then a friend who owned a microbrewery pointed out that beer is best when served fresh, like milk, within a day or so of being brewed. After that, unless it's pasteurized, it begins slowly to turn, like wine; and pasteurization does tend to blend and mute the flavors.
Since then I've tended to drink local beers wherever I go. I do like the heavier, maltier beers best: stouts and porters. We have great microbreweries around here and they all make good stuff. Where I can't get something local, Guinness does the trick. Maybe the heavy maltiness stands up smoothly to pasteurization.
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I've always found good beer at local microbreweries, and assumed that it was great just because it was made carefully in small batches. Then a friend who owned a microbrewery pointed out that beer is best when served fresh, like milk, within a day or so of being brewed. After that, unless it's pasteurized, it begins slowly to turn, like wine; and pasteurization does tend to blend and mute the flavors.
That would be true of top-fermented beers like ales, porters, and stouts that aren't cold-conditioned to smooth out the flavors.
Lagers like pilsners, helles, and bocks are cold-conditioned for a few weeks to months to, like a good wine, bring out the crisp and clean characteristics of the style. The German word lager means "to store".
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North Coast Old Stock Ale is hands down my favorite.
That being said, I drink just about any beer. Generic in a can up to whatever microexpensiveimpor t that is offered.
Beer.
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I actually liked the Cave Creek Chili beer, and the little chili in the bottle. It was different.
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Most overlooked Beer and only available in certain regions of the US. No it is not an Asian Beer Originally from the oldest brewery in the US, Pottstown PA. They are expanding and thankfully for me took over the old Schlitz brewery in Tampa and business is good they are expanding that site. My everyday beer is the Black and Tan
Good quality American beer at piss water prices. Even the Light is pretty darn good.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d101/draidt/DanRaidt/beer.jpg)
Always liked the price, and used to drink it often. Couple of years ago I bought a case that had so much sediment in it tipping the bottle was like shaking a snow-globe. Swore off it then, but may give it another shot someday.
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Flying Dog is easy to find in my area and two are really good, Old Scratch and In Heat Wheat.
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Buzz Beer!
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# 1 Guinness extra stout :BEER:
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Was out in Montana last summer and tried Salmon Fly Honey Rye.... LOVED it, very smooth and refreshing - but then again I'm not a huge fan of rich, heavy beers: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/11972/25162/
What, you didn't like the Moose Drool beer?
I actually thought that was pretty good stuff.
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Years ago, when I was heavily into collecting beer cans (way before my Guzzi addiction) and came accross a beer from Belgium called Reis Van Roi (hope I am spelling that correctly). It was the best beer that I have ever tasted in my life. Would love to get a case of the stuff. I currently drink Tecate from Mexico as my regular beer. It's nothing fancy, but I find it very crisp and refreshing.
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Beer?
Yes, please.
Bass, Anchor Steam, Weyerbacher
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# 1 Guinness extra stout :BEER:
Not for me anymore. When I was a kid, Guinness Extra Stout was exceptional. Nice distinctive stuff. When they started making it in Canada, (Yep, that's where the USA stuff comes from, just look at the bottle, that way they can still plaster 'Imported' all over the stuff. :) ) it just became watery, flat and tasteless. Molson's with caramel food coloring added. Damn disappointing.
However, there is a bright side. I recently discovered Guinness Foreign Extra. Still made in Dublin and still has a fantastic taste. More expensive than the Extra Stout but well worth it.
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Great beer, a bit pricey but worth it..
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Delerium Tremons
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there is a small Irish pub inside of town, with an all original Irish tab system as well,
the Guinness beer is delicious I got to say.
:bow :bow
prices have skyrocket through the decades though, the pint should be near 7 Euros
by now.
There is no Guinness as good as the proper stuff brewed in Ireland. I'm not a big drinker but I couldn't visit Dublin without trying one. Most other places (including Australia) they make it under licence and it's not the same.
As for Fosters, Forget it, we were talking about beer right?
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Trader Joe's has "Stockyard Oatmeal Stout" (I think better than the "G" stout from 'tother side o the pond).
I'll also get dumped on: I like stouts but still think there's nothing wrong with a real cold Bud in the summertime.
The only problem with beer is that it does not mix with riding - "eight hours bottle to throttle" is a rule I believe in (maybe better said "to live by"). :BEER:
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Abita Andygator on tap at the Louisiana camp out last April was quite nice. It was a Doppelbock. I have never been to a motorcycle rally based at a bar in the woods. I thought it was ideal.
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India Pale Ale - to help preserve the beer (bacteria don't like hop bitterness).
Acidity...bacteria can't live in the acidity caused by the additional hops.
That would be true of top-fermented beers like ales, porters, and stouts that aren't cold-conditioned to smooth out the flavors.
Lagers like pilsners, helles, and bocks are cold-conditioned for a few weeks to months to, like a good wine, bring out the crisp and clean characteristics of the style. The German word lager means "to store".
This isn't exactly a true picture. Ales, like you mention, use top-fermenting yeast that ferment at a warmer temperature than lagers. They aren't cold conditioned because the yeast wouldn't ferment the wort at cold temperatures. The smoothing out of the flavors is a by-product of the aging process, not a conscious choice by not cold-conditioning. When you age any bottle conditioned ales, it's generally at a cooler temperature and these cool temperatures do bring about a blending of flavors.
Lagers on the other hand are made with yeast that require cold temperatures to ferment the wort. Naturally, it takes those strains of yeast a longer time to ferment. Again, the crisp and clean characteristics are a result of the strain of yeast, not directly because of the cold-conditioning.
As a side note, though, clarity of the lagers is a direct result of cold-conditioning. Lagers do have to be cold to be able to get the clarity that the general public expects. This is where "cold filtered" comes from. You can only filter out the yeast proteins after they have precipitated when the lager has been chilled.
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As to my favorite beer? Stone Russian Imperial Stout. Other things that take my money are Great Lakes Blackout Stout, Bell's Two Hearted Ale, Great Lakes Lake Erie Monster, Stone Ruination IPA, and I haven't had a sour I didn't like yet. Chimay Blue and just about any of the Belgium Trappist Ales are how I like to give my money to the church. My problem is that I like so many styles and so many types of beer that I've been relegated to trying to make my own to keep from paying $20 a six pack. It also helps me think about beer more with a fewer hangovers...
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Timothy Taylors Landlord,brewed in Keighly West Yorkshire.The Best bitter is good too.
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schmeckt hevorragend ;-T, but is no beer, Bionade is a soft drink without any alcohol.
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I know that but I couldn't find a pic like that of a beer truck.
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6 hours left for work and you's are making me want a drink!
seems most of the people here are from the USA, do you's get Tennent's lager out there?
here in sunny scotland, it has to be said its the best . .
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working on a case of Breckenridge Oatmeal Stout right now. pretty good brew!
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had some of this in a variety case. just a bit hoppy and a nice break from the dark stuff
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Life's too short to drink bad beer!
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6 hours left for work and you's are making me want a drink!
seems most of the people here are from the USA, do you's get Tennent's lager out there?
here in sunny scotland, it has to be said its the best . .
Eighteen and on WG :o Most of the forum members children are older than 18.
Glad to see it. I was a little concerned about our eventual extinction. 8)
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When I visited "The Emerald Isle" (Ireland) this past June, everyone told me that the Guinness there would taste fresher and better than anywhere else in the world. Guess what...? they were right! ;) :) ;-T ;-T
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My visit to the Emerald Isle got me hooked on Murphy's stout.
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My visit to the Emerald Isle got me hooked on Murphy's stout.
I tried Murphy's Stout as well, along with Kilkenny's... Irish Cider... Jameson's Irish Whiskey, Bushmill's 18-year old Irish Whiskey, etc. etc. They were all good! :BEER: :BEER: ;D :D ;) :) ;-T ;-T
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Speaking of the bottled stouts from the old country that used to taste so good 30 years ago ... anyone remember Mackeson?
These days, stouts you can find in 6-packs always seem a little disappointing. Like they got the dark roasted malt part down, but for me, "dark" is not enough to make a good stout. Like "armload of hops" is not enough to make a good IPA - breweries around here tend to specialize in IPAs, and they're always rich, complex brews.
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This is analogous to an oil thread except more useful and less combative. My beer of choice is Mendocino Eye of the Eagle Ale. 8% ABV. Very excellent and balanced taste. Less fattening because you don't drink as much before you get drunk, throw up and pass out. Please excuse me, I'm a noob. I just got my first MG two days ago. It's starting to smooth out at close to 300 miles now. I'm breaking it in with the "ride it like you stole it" method. I'm stoked about having my first Guzzi, a Stelvio NTX. Plan to go to the rally at the Blue Ridge campground off 276 on Aug 3 and I'll bring some of said beer. I won't spend the night but I live only 1.5 hours away. by the way if someone can advise me what octane gas to buy, I'd appreciate. I earlier today put in 4 gallons of 87 octane ethanol free and it seems to have smoothed out a little. That was the first gas I've had to buy since I bought the bike on Wednesday.
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Tim, at your age you shouldn't be riding a Goose "like you stole it" and you shouldn't be drinking beer. ::) ;D ;D ;D
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Have any of you ever drank, Orangenboom from Holland? It is pretty good even if I didn't remember how to spell it.
Okay Oranjeboom.
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As I am reading the last several additions to this thread, I am drinking a Samuel Adams Irish Red Ale; first one I've ever had--not bad, malty as expected, pretty good beer. After I finish this one, I will walk out into the garage with a Smithwicks in hand and start preparing my norj (or is it nor-ga, or nor-gay, or whatever) for its next trip (to Acadia NP).
I've never had a Smithwicks before; I'll let you know what I think about it in an hour or so. BTW, how do you pronounce Smithwicks? Should we start a new thread? :BEER:
Jon
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You have to have lived in or visited Ontario, to fully appreciate this story . . . . .
An American friend was dropping by for a visit recently. It has been really hot so he said: "I will pickup some beer on my way to your place: where should I get it? I said: "The Beer Store" He said: Yes, I know but what is the store called?" I said: "The Beer Store!" He said: "Don't get smart, what's the name of the dam store?" :)
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Several years ago, when the BMW rally was held in Spokane, I met a German gentleman who was drinking a local beer called Rainier. He looked at the bottle that said "brewed since 1880", or some such date, and said in a heavy german accent, "after all that time, you would think they would be better at it". I then bought him a local micro brew and he was much hoppier.
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Tim, at your age you shouldn't be riding a Goose "like you stole it" and you shouldn't be drinking beer.
Yes, it's time to break out the grappa.
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Tim, at your age you shouldn't be riding a Goose "like you stole it" and you shouldn't be drinking beer. ::) ;D ;D ;D
Young people suck. :BEER:
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There is no such thing as the best beer. Each person has their own pallet and will enjoy different beers. Kind of like the best motorcycle seat. Each ass is different and prefers a different saddle. We found a beer during our travels in the US that we like as good or better than most any beer. Grain Belt Premium from New Ulm Minnisota. But again each to his own. Thats probably why there are over 200000 kinds of beer.
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# 1 Guinness extra stout :BEER:
Bingo.
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There is no such thing as the best beer. Each person has their own pallet and will enjoy different beers.
I don't have a pallet.
And I don't think there's even a `best' beer for me. At the fancy bottled beer store a few blocks from here, one day they had rows of a just arrived bottling called `Pliny the Elder' on the counter, and they had some kind of `best of' claim for it. Well ... enjoy. I'm sure it's fine, but the way things are here on the west coast, there are so many very good IPAs that there is no room for a best one. It isn't like women. Or maybe it is.
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Had a PBR tonight. Pretty good "drinkin' beer."
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Agreed (+1). There is nothing better than a fresh, local draft beer from anywhere in Germany! This one (Bit Burger) is from Aachen :) 8) ;-T
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Looks great. I'll have to sample it on our next visit to Aachan!
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There are two readily available types of beer. Good beer and Better beer.
There is also the most ellusive and enjoyable sort which is
FREE BEER!!!!
And that, my friends, is THE BEST beer!!
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I've never had a Smithwicks before; I'll let you know what I think about it in an hour or so. BTW, how do you pronounce Smithwicks? Should we start a new thread?
Due to the differing accent and dialects of Ireland, it is generally pronounced /ˈsmɪθɨks/, /ˈsmɪtɨks/, /ˈsmɪdɨks/ or /ˈsmɛθɨks/ there. When ordering in the USA, /ˈsmɪθɨks/ or /ˈsmɪdɨks/ is preferred, while /ˈsmɪdɨks/ is the most prevalent pronunciation in Canada.
If the hieroglyphics are new to you or the font doesn't render on your setup, that theta is an unvoiced th, as you'd expect in "smith". The main point is that in any case, no "w". As you probably surmised.
I see there are a couple different bottlings, including a "Kilkenny Cream Ale" that, according to the same Wikipedia article was designed for export "... due to difficulty in pronunciation of the word Smithwick’s". I assume you're going to review "Smithwick's Draught"? (That's pronounced "draft", by the way!)
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I agree, on a PBR kick myself right now, I like about any beer, but Not Coors light.
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I like about any beer, but Not Coors light.
That's because it's not really beer!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I don't have a pallet.
And I don't think there's even a `best' beer for me. At the fancy bottled beer store a few blocks from here, one day they had rows of a just arrived bottling called `Pliny the Elder' on the counter, and they had some kind of `best of' claim for it. Well ... enjoy. I'm sure it's fine, but the way things are here on the west coast, there are so many very good IPAs that there is no room for a best one. It isn't like women. Or maybe it is.
Heh...Pliny the Elder doesn't just have "some kind of 'best of' claim." I'm surprised you even saw it on the counter because in some of the few places you can even purchase it, it often times sells out before the end of the day. It's consistently rated one of the best beers on the market today.
Some people have a "bucket list." Whatever that is. Pliny the Elder is on my list of things I need to drink...and I plan to do so as soon as I'm blessed enough to live where it is on the counter of the fancy bottled beer store!
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Heh...Pliny the Elder doesn't just have "some kind of 'best of' claim." I'm surprised you even saw it on the counter because in some of the few places you can even purchase it, it often times sells out before the end of the day. It's consistently rated one of the best beers on the market today.
That was the idea, they just dumped their shipment out on the counter next to the cash register, because they didn't expect it would be in the way there for very long, once the news was out and the frantic hordes arrived to snatch up the `best' beer.
Whatever. Enjoy your beers, guys!
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This is pretty good stuff (warning: extreme understatement!)
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My favourite beermobile!
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Cheers! :BEER: ;-T
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Duck Rabbit Milk Stout.
Just moved back to NC, soooooooo glad to be back!
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I just had this last week bought 2 of them one for my friend
needless to say he never saw his bottle damm good stuff
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Always Pabst, often Kilkenny or Bass, never Coors Light or Bud Light—not that those actually are beer; more nearly vaguely beer-flavored water.
I think I'd better look in at the local Irish pub.
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La Fin du Monde (the End of the World)!
I just had some of this in Quebec. Somewhat ironic since I was heading for the End of the Road (138), along the north shore of the St. Lawrence.
There's a reason the picture is a bit blurry..........9% alcohol!
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Nick
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Mmmmmmm! Beer!
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I just had this last week bought 2 of them one for my friend
needless to say he never saw his bottle damm good stuff
Pretty much anything from them is amazing!
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Whatever I have bottle conditioning is my favorite beer!
Have a nice little Saison about a week away from being conditioned to drink. I've really been stuck in the Belgian style beers lately, Dubels, Trips, Saisons, etc. Can't get enough of 'em.
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Local Pugetopolis IPAs for me, Georgetown, Boundary Bay, American Brewing, Snoqualmie...and more!
(http://pokeyman.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Motorcycles/i-3SrRDbL/1/M/tap-M.jpg)
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Local Pugetopolis IPAs for me, Georgetown, Boundary Bay, American Brewing, Snoqualmie...and more!
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That is sweet ;-T
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Local Pugetopolis IPAs for me, Georgetown, Boundary Bay, American Brewing, Snoqualmie...and more!
(http://pokeyman.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Motorcycles/i-3SrRDbL/1/M/tap-M.jpg)
Wow...Believe it or not, that tap might be cheaper than an actual one...
AND WAAAAY cooler
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Local Pugetopolis IPAs for me, Georgetown, Boundary Bay, American Brewing, Snoqualmie...and more!
(http://pokeyman.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Motorcycles/i-3SrRDbL/1/M/tap-M.jpg)
Is that from a local pub?
Do they serve stout from it? :D
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do yourself a favor and find someplace with Maredsous on tap.
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I have been writing down the names of the favorite stouts and porters ...I hope when I go to my Liquor Barn to buy those choices they are available . Another local beer I like is he Ky Bourbon Barrel , I cantremember if is a stout or a porter , the same anyway.
Roberto.
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do yourself a favor and find someplace with Maredsous on tap.
Lovely beers - didn't know you could get them on tap
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From spring until fall I drink whatever is wet. Winter time, I really like Blue Moon Winter abbey ale. It's a nice flavor and not too pricey.
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Evan,
I only wish I was a good friend of yours to share one of those with. I am a huge fan of Belgian stuff. I found some Leffe Brune recently at a local store. Not easy to find here in the states since they supposedly don't export it here. Rated 92 and got a case for $35. Not bad for a high yield Belgian that mistakenly made its way to this store. Most any quad will do.
-Kevin
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Evan,
I only wish I was a good friend of yours to share one of those with. I am a huge fan of Belgian stuff. I found some Leffe Brune recently at a local store. Not easy to find here in the states since they supposedly don't export it here. Rated 92 and got a case for $35. Not bad for a high yield Belgian that mistakenly made its way to this store. Most any quad will do.
-Kevin
Haha, I'm all about sharing. It's just too bad I'm not going to be near Michigan, otherwise I could be easily persuaded to bring along a bottle on my trip :BEER:
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Use to go to Colorado a lot to visit my oldest daughter. My favorite was found right there! Rock Bottom wheat beer.
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Dark Lord from Three Floyds Brewing. Only available one day a year and you have to have a Golden Ticket (https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRBhuoEcWsB2e4yg5MKKbpODlqRTYcXsbVXCY9kagIEKIUiJA7I)
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Had an invitation to tour New Belgium Brewery last week. They do public tours daily and that's much fun but we did the tour with the marketing director and got to see some of the hidden works -- all very impressive. What I liked best is that the employees sample the stuff they're making, pretty much all day long. No one is drunk, but everyone is friendly. I'm told that if they like you after the first interview, the second interview is in the bar and they get you drunk. If you're a pleasant, sociable drunk, you get the job. If you're an angry or uncoordinated drunk, you don't.
Employee-owned company. 180 lucky souls.
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I'm fortunate living in Eruope to have a phenominal selection - that said, I'm a wine guy for the most part. BUT when I do get a good beer I like:
Urquel Pils, a Czeck pils
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Jever, a /german pils - but hopsy - tho no to IPA levels
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And When there's something special, Chimay blue (or any Trappist ale)
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when traveling, I usually tell the gasthaus what I like - either a hopsy pils or a dark (NOT Wiezen) keller bier, and go with his/her recommendation of the local swill. Have not been dissapointed het.
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Local beers are like local diners...some are good, some aren't, but at least you know you aren't facing the same old national mega-product. My current favorite is Yazoo Brewery's Pale Ale, from Nashville. :bow
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Beer needs to be fresh and brewed in a clean environment so no nasty microbes get involved. Therefore you want local beers made by people that know what the heck they're doing. Getting something that was voted number one shipped half way across the world is likely to be dissapointing.
Was just in Villach Austria where I enjoyed Villacher, the local brew. When in Graz, I enjoyed the beer made in Graz. I love Guinness if I'm in Dublin but Murphey's if in Cork.
Unfortunately there aren't many good microbreweries around where I live. Some decent ones but none I consider really outstanding. Anchor Steam on tap can be really good or some of the Sierra Nevada offerings. Oregon is microbrew heaven with one in just about every town.
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Before refrigeration, nearly every county had its own brewery. Beer could be shipped by rail in boxcars cooled with ice, but not far. Refrigerated rail cars and pasteurization made Milwaukee and St. Louis famous.
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Quite a few years ago, I was travelling in Pennsylvania with some friends. We booked a motel near Pittsburgh. They sent me to buy beer. When I got to the store the clerk, who was a real tough-looking dude, snapped at me: "What do you want?"
I was not to familiar with US beers, so I said with some hesitation: "I would like 12 Budweiser please!" (Budweiser is a name I had heard of)
He tossed some beer on the counter that was called "Iron City Beer." I said: "But I asked for Budweiser . . . . . . "
He glared at me and barked out: " 'round here everyone drinks Iron City Beer!!!"
I paid and left, because I didn't want to annoy him anymore than I already had!
Iron City Beer was not one of the world's greatest beers, I am afraid!
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Eighteen and on WG :o Most of the forum members children are older than 18.
Glad to see it. I was a little concerned about our eventual extinction. 8)
haha, well i was born and bread into a bike loving family,
19 now, and by the time im 20 i will have my V50 III fully restored and ready to ride. it was suggested when i registered that i was possably the youngest member on the forum haha
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Most overlooked Beer and only available in certain regions of the US. No it is not an Asian Beer Originally from the oldest brewery in the US, Pottstown PA. They are expanding and thankfully for me took over the old Schlitz brewery in Tampa and business is good they are expanding that site. My everyday beer is the Black and Tan
Good quality American beer at piss water prices. Even the Light is pretty darn good.
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LONG TIME drinker of the stuff (since I arrived in PA in the late 80s for college).
The Lord Chesterfield ale has been my favorite, but of late they've been playing with introducing some seasonal beers includnig a Bock and a Marzen (Oktoberfest).
Not bad for the money.
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BTW, how do you pronounce Smithwicks?
A guy that should know says Smid icks, all one word. <shrug>
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if they're selling Marzen in October they've got it wrong. Marzen means March. it's brewed for spring planting season using last summer's wheat and hops.
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Been enjoying everything from Anchor Brewing - San Francisco.
http://www.anchorbrewing.com/
The Anchor Porter is my recent favorite.
;-T
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if they're selling Marzen in October they've got it wrong. Marzen means March. it's brewed for spring planting season using last summer's wheat and hops.
Marzen is a STYLE of beer which is associated with Oktoberfest.
Yes it was brewed in March (Traditionally) but stored and SERVED for Octoberfest (and at other times of the year).
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/style/29
Before refrigeration, it was nearly impossible to brew beer in the summer due to the hot weather and bacterial infections. Brewing ended with the coming of spring, and began again in the fall. Most were brewed in March (Märzen). These brews were kept in cold storage over the spring and summer months, or brewed at a higher gravity, so they’d keep. Märzenbier is full-bodied, rich, toasty, typically dark copper in color with a medium to high alcohol content.
Interesting side-note - Yuengling is a small family owned brewery - the first and primary brewery for the brand in Pottsville PA was carved into the side of a mountain to use the naturally cool environment for lagering.
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Before refrigeration, it was nearly impossible to brew beer in the summer due to the hot weather and bacterial infections. Brewing ended with the coming of spring, and began again in the fall. Most were brewed in March (Märzen). These brews were kept in cold storage over the spring and summer months, or brewed at a higher gravity, so they’d keep. Märzenbier is full-bodied, rich, toasty, typically dark copper in color with a medium to high alcohol content.
Not quite right. From the Middle Ages, Marzen was brewed in late winter, ending in March, then stored in cool cellars for drinking during planting and cultivating; the last kegs were drunk at harvest time, then recycled for the coming winter's brew. The very first "official" Oktoberfest was in 1810, so Marzen was a spring-and-summer drink for at least 500 years before Bavarians thought to lay in large commercial quantities for fall. Today's commercial recipe was launched by Spaten in 1841.
See: http://www.germanbeerinstitute.com/Oktoberfestbier.html
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Not quite right. From the Middle Ages, Marzen was brewed in late winter, ending in March, then stored in cool cellars for drinking during planting and cultivating; the last kegs were drunk at harvest time, then recycled for the coming winter's brew. The very first "official" Oktoberfest was in 1810, so Marzen was a spring-and-summer drink for at least 500 years before Bavarians thought to lay in large commercial quantities for fall. Today's commercial recipe was launched by Spaten in 1841.
See: http://www.germanbeerinstitute.com/Oktoberfestbier.html
Not disputing that in any way, but that doesn't change the fact that Marzen is considered to be the style of beer that characterizes Oktoberfest and is the style most brewers use when referring to fest beers. As such they've done nothing wrong as you assert in your original post (and ironically prove with the link in your second post) as it is now normally marketed generally in fall (Sept/ Oct) and associated with Oktoberfest. Though I'll happily drink it all year round as it is one of my favorite styles (along with Pilsners, Dunkel Lagers, Maibocks, Porters, and Stouts)
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"# 1 Guinness extra stout"
what we get here seems the same..same taste and label
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I have recently enjoyed (like right now...) Blue Point Brewing Company's "Hoptical Illusion"
Great IPA.
Not maybe the best beer in world, but tasty, Oh YES!!!
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A guy that should know says Smid icks, all one word. <shrug>
yes. but two syllables
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Most overlooked Beer and only available in certain regions of the US. No it is not an Asian Beer Originally from the oldest brewery in the US, Pottstown PA. They are expanding and thankfully for me took over the old Schlitz brewery in Tampa and business is good they are expanding that site. My everyday beer is the Black and Tan
Good quality American beer at piss water prices. Even the Light is pretty darn good.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d101/draidt/DanRaidt/beer.jpg)
i agree, they should be commended on being the oldest brewery. but no self respecting brewer offers a "black and tan" and they seem to have a lot of "light" offerings. ;)
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I think my fovorite beer is one behind a shot of Jamisons Irish Whisky.
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Not disputing that in any way, but that doesn't change the fact that Marzen is considered to be the style of beer that characterizes Oktoberfest and is the style most brewers use when referring to fest beers. As such they've done nothing wrong as you assert in your original post (and ironically prove with the link in your second post) as it is now normally marketed generally in fall (Sept/ Oct) and associated with Oktoberfest. Though I'll happily drink it all year round as it is one of my favorite styles (along with Pilsners, Dunkel Lagers, Maibocks, Porters, and Stouts)
You're right, Kev. My first post was wrongheaded.
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I do wish the style was more readily available the rest of the year.
We've got a local Germanic micro-brewery (Stoudts) http://www.stoudts.com/brewery.html that makes their "Fest" beer available all year.
About 2 decades ago they were a FANTASTIC micro-brewery, only producing and bottling fresh beer - in 1 liter bottles, shipped and stored cold. Not pastuerized or filtered - so there were yeast sediments on the bottoms of the bottles.
REALLY REALLY REALLY good stuff.
Sadly, I THINK they may have been forced to filter their beer and they've switched to 12 oz bottles and they are shipped/stored warm now. There is a definite difference in the taste, not as fresh.
Still a good beer, but not the fantastic stuff it once was.
I don't think another local or regional brewery I know of makes a Marzen styled beer available the rest of the year (much to my regret). I'd happily drink it all spring and summer!
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I have a great "beer" story from my youth. I am of English ancestry and grew up in a small town in Missouri. One summer when I about 10 (which would be 1964), my great Uncle "Dink" Wilding came to visit us from London. My dad drank Falstaff, and Dink couldn't stand the stuff and couldn't understand why Americans drank such watered down, tasteless beer.
One evening, my parents decided to treat Dink to something truly American - dinner at the AW drive-in. We went in my Dads new black Buick Electra 225, and planned to eat in the car with the trays hooked on the windows in the true '60's drive-in way. We placed our order, and Dink was quite excited when he saw the waitress carrying a tray full of mugs of black "Root Beer", with its nice thick head. Dink took his mug and greedily drank it in - then proceeded to spray the entire contents of his mouth over my Dad's nice clean dashboard yelling "wha' the 'ell kind of swill is that"!?
Not sure what Dink thought of the US but he sure hated the "beer". Fortunately, we have much better choices today.
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Not sure what Dink thought of the US but he sure hated the "beer". Fortunately, we have much better choices today.
We sure do. We were visiting friends in England, and they took us to a CAMRA (save the real ale bunch) beer tasting. I was pretty excited to go, and it was disappointing to me.. fairly like an "American lager" tasting. Bland and similar. We have a *much* better selection of styles.
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I agree that today the US has one of the best beer selections of any country. But in 1965, although I didn't drink yet, I know it was pathetic. The US suffered greatly from prohibition, and literally hundreds of breweries went out of business. US beers were terrible post prohibition up until the 1980's when the first microbreweries, like Anchor in San Francisco started to make something decent.
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The best beer; the one I have in my glass right now. ;D
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I agree that today the US has one of the best beer selections of any country. But in 1965, although I didn't drink yet, I know it was pathetic. The US suffered greatly from prohibition, and literally hundreds of breweries went out of business. US beers were terrible post prohibition up until the 1980's when the first microbreweries, like Anchor in San Francisco started to make something decent.
Looks to me like the typical generational pattern of that era. I think Anchor Steam actually goes back to at least the mid '60s, but availability outside SF must have been nil until late '70s; don't know when Rainier Ale was introduced but it was regionally popular in the '70s. Meanwhile imports like Löwenbräu and Heineken took off, and home brewing started up. By the '80s, the whole generation was catching on, and it started getting interesting.
In the last 5 years or so, seems to me there's a younger generation getting into it who have grown up with microbrews and are pushing the industry again. For sure beer's a lot better than it was 40 years ago, but also a lot better than it was 10 years ago.
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There was a microbrew/beer industry lull ten years ago?
News to me. ???
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I just had this one ...it is good ..very good .. very heavy stout . $12.98
Roberto.
(http://s9.postimage.org/tlnyw5pkr/IMAG0318.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/tlnyw5pkr/)
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Rolling Rock is fine by me. My wife just shakes her head. Long Trail Ale and Wachusett Summer Ale (here in North Central MA) are mighty good too.
Nic
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Brooklyn #2 or almost anything from Southern Tier Brewing
(http://www.stbcbeer.com/our-beers/)
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haha - i'll take that as a compliment ;)
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A very nice pint over here in the UK is called Swordfish, it is a blend of a beer called Wadworth 6X and navy rum. It goes down very well.
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Mackeson Triple Stout! I second that!
Hmm...I live in MO and grew up next to some folks by the name of Wilding but they never owned a Buick...
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Been brewing my own beer since 1979, my favorites are copies of Anchor Brewing Company 'Steam', a lager fermented at ale temperatures and Anchor Liberty Ale, an American style pale ale .
All malt, no rice or corn added, brewed in accordance of 'Reinheitsgebot', the German Purity of Brewing law, 1516 .
Use nothing but malted barley, hops, water and yeast .
Not 'diet' beer, average alcohol content is around 8-9%, about 500 calories per 12 oz, 355ml bottle .
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When I'm feeling bright.....
(http://s7.postimage.org/yh3mdbjxj/Hacker_Pschorr.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/yh3mdbjxj/)
Hacker-Pschorr Weisse
When I'm feeling dark.....
(http://s9.postimage.org/i0mm7pj7v/breakfaststout.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/i0mm7pj7v/)
Founders Breakfast Stout
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I am in Langford, BC haveing a Phillips Hop Circle IPA. Very good, best IPA I have had in weeks. ;-T :BEER:
Matt
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Great timing for the re-emergence of this thread. For any of you Seattle denizens, get over to Seattle Center this weekend for the Seattle International Beer Festival. (http://seattlebeerfest.com/)
How's this for a beer list?!?! (http://seattlebeerfest.com/beers.php)
Three days, hundreds of beers, live music, and a smattering of food to ease the transition to the blissful state of beervana...
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A cold one after a long day doing traffic control in the sun, or prisoner processing at the jail. Just sitting there in my lounger, boots off, looking put my veranda window, a free man with a good wife, a good life, some good friends, a good bike, and a good cold beer. Pop, ajhhh!
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Coors Lite, ice cold but once in a while at room temprature in memory of my dad. :BEER:
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Stocked up the cooler last night with 2 cases of PBR bottles and 40lbs. of ice, with a little luck I can skate outa here early for a 4 day weekend WWWOOO HOOOO!! Happy Independence Day!
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Founders Breakfast Stout
Hacker-Pschorr Weisse (Hefe Weisse)
Hacker-Pschorr Weisse Dark (Dunkle Weisse)
Nastro Azzurro
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My current favorite is Flying Dog's Raging Bitch!
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New one to ad to the list
DuClaw's Sweet Baby Jesus (Chocolate Peanut Butter Porter).
http://www.duclaw.com/beers.aspx
Just found it recently at a MD liquor store close to the marina where we keep our boat.
Not an all night beer for sure, but a decent treat.
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I'm a big local beer fan.
- Brainerd Lakes Brewing
- Surly
- Indeed (just down from the studio)
- Lift Bridge
Pretty much anything from MN I'm all for
From there my taste varies - Pacifico, Dos Equis, Pilsner Urquell, to anything that comes in a 45, to some belgans, doesn't matter just as long as it's beer.
Also, my home brewing finally was ready to drink, and it's amazing! http://www.midwestsupplies.com/octane-ipa.html
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New one to ad to the list
DuClaw's Sweet Baby Jesus (Chocolate Peanut Butter Porter).
http://www.duclaw.com/beers.aspx
Just found it recently at a MD liquor store close to the marina where we keep our boat.
Not an all night beer for sure, but a decent treat.
Spring House Brewing Co. in Conestoga makes a Chocolate Peanut Butter Stout called Big Gruesome ( http://www.springhousebeer.com/pages/beer/big-gruesome ) they have it on tap at their Taproom in Lancaster.
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Spring House Brewing Co. in Conestoga makes a Chocolate Peanut Butter Stout called Big Gruesome ( http://www.springhousebeer.com/pages/beer/big-gruesome ) they have it on tap at their Taproom in Lancaster.
Good to know - thanks...
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I like all those fancy expensive beers too, just not 3 times better than a good old beer like Pabst Blue Ribbon.
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Miller High Life (The Champagne of Beers). Ice, ice cold. Gotta be in the clear long neck bottle.
Sometimes in the summer, with a bit of ginger ale to make a shandy. Yum.
With some butter, onions and bullion, makes a great "bath" for the brats as they come off the grill. Double yum.
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Leave it to a Wisc. man to have a good no nonsense taste in beer. And include a brat!
Miller High Life (The Champagne of Beers). Ice, ice cold. Gotta be in the clear long neck bottle.
Sometimes in the summer, with a bit of ginger ale to make a shandy. Yum.
With some butter, onions and bullion, makes a great "bath" for the brats as they come off the grill. Double yum.
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Negra Modello from Mexico... a dark german ale.
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Negra Modello from Mexico... a dark german ale.
???
Ale?
That would surprise me.
Most beers produced for tropical climates are Lagers and though the flavor of Negra Modello is more complex than your typical light lager/pilsner, it certainly doesn't strike me as having the complexity of an ale.
If it wasn't already covered in this thread
* ALES are top-fermented at warmer temps and therefore contain more radical and complex flavors. They don't HAVE to be dark, though they often are. L
* LAGERS are bottom-fermented at cooler temps (traditionally in caves/lagering cellars, like those cut into the Pottsville mountain side by Yuengling in the early 1800s). They don't have to be LIGHT, but they often are. The cooler temps allow more simple, clean/crisp flavors.
A Pilsner is a particular style of light lager that is mimicked (quite badly in most cases) by most of the big American breweries. So if you're a PBR, or Bud, or Miller, or Coors fan (and argue the merits of one over the other) you're simply a Pilsner fan with a taste for a very simple, relatively bland Americanized version. If you want to taste where that all came from try something like Pilsner Urquel or a fine German Pilsner and compare, you'll find something similar with just a touch more well-rounded flavor.
Anyway, the importer doesn't specify
http://www.crownimportsllc.com/ourbrands/negramodelo.htm
But Wiki suggests it's a lager as I suspect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupo_Modelo
Negra Modelo is a 5.3% abv Vienna lager[11] first brewed in Mexico by Austrian immigrants, and was introduced as a draft beer in 1926.[12][13] Negra Modelo comes in an unusually shaped, wide brown bottle with a trademark gold label. The full name of the beer is Cerveza Negra Modelo. The word "modelo" means "model" or "example" in Spanish. "Negra" means "black" or "dark" and modifies "cerveza."
Ratebeer.com seems to agree
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/negra-modelo/745/
I'm going with a Dark Lager...
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Leave it to a Wisc. man to have a good no nonsense taste in beer. And include a brat!
If there's one thing I know about, it's beer and brats.
But I guess that would be two things.
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A recently discovered favorite: Green Flash Brewing's West Coast IPA. Crisp start, nice bitter finish.... How they do that?
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Great - now I have another reason (besides the 155 degree temps) to want to be somewhere other than Las Vegas!
BTW, I like heavily hopped lagers best, but an IPA will do in a pinch. I wish Radegast were easier to find in the US....
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You guys suck, you really suck. Telling the tales of drinking Chocolate Peanut Butter Porter or Chocolate Peanut Butter Stout. You and your damned drink it with your pinkies out regional beers. I hope you are proud of yourselves. Sounds to me, like the kind of beers, only to be drunk if you are wearing a Kilt!
If needed I will buy a damn kilt. I would love to try some of it.
Willie
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My favorite...whatever is on tap at the Dodging Duck in Boerne, Texas. All beer is good if you're hot and sweaty from working in the heat.
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There are too many for me to have a real favorite. Since we had a couple warm days here, temperatures in the 80s - no kidding, there was an official weather warning, probably broke a record in there somewhere! - I especially enjoyed a couple of our local Elysian's "Super Fuzz" blood orange pale ales. (Don't worry, I walked home!) One of the local joints is pushing the stuff pretty hard, and the waitress was talking about a citrusy IPA, but it was not so heavy on that, really pretty nicely balanced. It apparently really does have orange juice in it, so perfect breakfast beer. I am not usually attracted to gimmicks like this, absolutely hated that apricot beer, and the watermelon beer likewise, so I'd been steering clear of this stuff, but now I'm up for more!
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don't have the time to read all 10 pages of this thread so maybe i am repeating what someone has said however, what a country!!!!!! there is so damn much good beer in america today that if i was a recent immigrant, visitor or alien from another planet i would just get me a bike and ride from one town to another.......portl and, great stuff.....seattle, my oh my.....asheville... sweet mother of gawd..and don't even start me on the right coast, left coast and everything in between...i do not care where you are if there isn't a store, restaurant, micro or man at a rally sharing his own 'stuff' well i missed that part of the country.....yep, the best thing to happen to this country in the past two decades is americans are making and drinking great beers.....now back to the kitchen to check two carboys, one with a stout perking and the other with a belgian with a tardy yeast......
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One's talking about cherry another about choclat and yet one on citrus flavor.
Don't you guys like beer as it comes ;)
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;D Timothy Taylor's Golden Best.
Moorhouses Pendle Witch.
Thwaites' Wainwright.
Ossett Brewery Silver King............... .the list goes on! BTW, as a non flying Brit, I am not likely to ever sample Bud or Coors in their native land. Are they better than the bottled swill we get over here? (They could hardly be any worse!).
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It varies and I love trying new ones. Right now I’m back to Innis & Gunn. My 2 favorites are the Bourbon and the Rum. :BEER:
http://www.innisandgunn.com/
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I love good beer, but when it comes down to it, it's like coffee: as long as it's free, and the correct temperature, I'll drink anything.
But being a Chicagoan, I really like Goose Island's premium beers, like Bourbon County Stout and its upcoming Ten Hills line.
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BTW, as a non flying Brit, I am not likely to ever sample Bud or Coors in their native land. Are they better than the bottled swill we get over here? (They could hardly be any worse!).
As another home brewer, I can say that the mass produced American beers, including some of the ones considered by some to be special, taste very much like bottled water to me.
One of the beers I make in rotation regularly is a version of Sierra. Any good IPA is worth drinking.
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Being the least interesting man in the world, I prefer Dos Equis. Ice cold, with the #5 Mexican dinner.
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I've been picking up some of this lately when I see it - http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/417/96518
I usually try to keep things local to the city and state.
Well and these are fun - http://www.oldspeckledhen.co.uk/products.php
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This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emfwXmLpkK0
Although its not as good as it used to be.
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Lavery "Imperial REd ale," hoppy and malty at 8+ ABV. Nice samll brewery out of PA.
Avery "20th Anniversery XX IPA." best IPA of all time. Great pale malt backbone while aggressive dry hoppin (not overly bitter). 10+ABV. Avery is a larger brewery in Colorado. They seldom dissapoint.
Last but not least, the beer the man who likes chocolate peanut butter stout made fun of (cough... Kev... cough..) Southern Tier's Warlock Imperial Pumkin stout.... very limited release... Youza! best stout ever!!! Absolutely!!! Without question!!! IMPERIcally proven!!! ;D
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As another home brewer, I can say that the mass produced American beers, including some of the ones considered by some to be special, taste very much like bottled water to me.
The irony is that those watery lagers are among the most difficult beers to produce consistently. That's why small/home brewers make stuff like Raspberry Chocolate Oatmeal stout--there's more margin for error and still have it taste good, compared to if you decided to make Miller Lite in your basement.
Just talking about the chemistry, not the pleasure of the drinking!
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The irony is that those watery lagers are among the most difficult beers to produce consistently. That's why small/home brewers make stuff like Raspberry Chocolate Oatmeal stout--there's more margin for error and still have it taste good, compared to if you decided to make Miller Lite in your basement.
Just talking about the chemistry, not the pleasure of the drinking!
I dunno.. I used to brew amber ales and Pale ales with some pretty good regularity (tasty ones). Weren't watery but not overly ingredient intense. If it weren't such a PITA I'd still be doing it!
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Believe it or not, had a couple of Hamm's beers in the can last night and they weren't half bad. Either that, or the awesome thin crust pizza we were eating would have made any beer taste good. Oddly, the side of the label listed the Hamm's Brewing Co. in Milwaukee,WI. Didn't they go out of business years ago? Wouldn't be surprised if one of the big guys is actually brewing the stuff for them. BTW, before I developed a craziness for motorcycles, I was seriously into collecting beer cans. There are still @2000 cans down my parent's basement. I don't think that they are worth a whole lot of $, but who cares, they sure as heck beat tacky wallpaper.
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The irony is that those watery lagers are among the most difficult beers to produce consistently. That's why small/home brewers make stuff like Raspberry Chocolate Oatmeal stout--there's more margin for error and still have it taste good, compared to if you decided to make Miller Lite in your basement.
I don't know of any reason watery beer would be harder to make consistently than non-watery beer. To make the watery type, and I've made it before for fun, I use less barley malt and substitute other less flavorful malts like wheat or rice. I also use next to no hops, just like the big breweries. Don't get me wrong, consistency is difficult to achieve when brewing any beer. I just don't see why watery beer like Bud would be harder to make consistently than a beer that has more flavor like Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. Maybe if you prefer very lightly flavored beers and drink them most of the time, you've developed the ability to spot inconsistencies in them, where they all taste pretty much the same to me. I like beers with a lot more flavor, and can taste a lot of subtleties in them.
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I like variety, so just buying American beers (even microbrews) isn't going to cut it.
As for Italy, I dunno, Morretti and Peroni are not bad. Again, there big market (relatively) beers, but they have a flavor of their own that goes well with many Italian dishes!
Kev
Have you tried their La Rossa (Morretti) it is very good. It just became avaliable in NC since they passed the higher alchol content law.
Yes La rossa, great beer.
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I am currently sipping Green Flash West Coast IPA. Excellent example of the style. I have yet to find a bad example of the style. Hops Rule!
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No, I did not read the entire thread but....
Dinkelacker Dark.
Sublimely smooth and full and rich. Just damn awesome.
DM
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I'm surprised at some of the beers some of you craft brew guys like. Peroni, moretti, even the Rossa (the best of the lot)are cheap low malt lagers like stella artois (yuck) and Heineken. Again, not surprised anyone likes them just surprised craft brew fans would. I don't consider anything made with corn or rice with little to no hops as being real beer. Just mass produced garbage regardless what country it comes from.
There's so much awesome local beer around here, and in the rest of the country, that I need look to no other county. Two new micro breweries popped up in my are recently which make it even more fun. I love a fresh growler of ale right out of the finishing tank.
Frankly I'm starting to feel that way about wines too. I had a bottle of dry red out of the st. Lawrence valley in Canada that blew me away. Tuscans have been real dissapointing lately especially for the price. I'm fine with Napa, Sonoma, Oregon, even new mexico wines...but this is a beer thread. :)
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I've grown allergic to hops (I think) over the last 5 years. I am unable to drink IPAs without feeling like they are trying to kill me.
One beer I do risk the pain for once in awhile (10%abv):
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x350/jtkirb/dragons-milk_zps7c41abc5.jpg) (http://s1177.photobucket.com/user/jtkirb/media/dragons-milk_zps7c41abc5.jpg.html)
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Magic Hat #9, Newcastle Brown Ale, Michelob Amber Bock if I have to pick an American mass-market brand.
Any amber-colored craft or locally brewed beer, especially if it is on tap.
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I am currently sipping Green Flash West Coast IPA. Excellent example of the style. I have yet to find a bad example of the style. Hops Rule!
http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?action=post;quote=962248;topic=2656.360;num_replies=406;sesc=dc3e967e2e294c43a8d01ffbae9eec41
Second vote -we have a winner!
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http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?action=post;quote=962248;topic=2656.360;num_replies=406;sesc=dc3e967e2e294c43a8d01ffbae9eec41
Second vote -we have a winner!
Man; THAT must be something:
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Yuengling, Chesterfield Ale is my daily beverage. If you stop at any of the rural "Hotel" bars in the Berks or Schuylkill Counties of PA and ask for a Lager you'll get a Yuengling-- the oldest brewery in the USA and family owned!
If you are ever in Pottsville, PA you can tour the brewery (free tastings!). It's a quaint collection of building's and includes a cave dug into the mountainside where they stored kegs to keep them cool.
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When I was in college at the U of MD, Yuengling Old German was $4.69 a case, when Bud was around $10. The Lord Chesterfield Ale was about a buck more, and was noticeably higher in alcohol content. Yuengling Porter was a little more yet, like $7.50 a case and was very good. A few years later, they learned that if they put the beer in tall bottles instead of the squatty ones that I prefer, they could double their prices and sell to the more elite crowd. No gripe, you have to do what's best for the company.
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http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?action=post;quote=962248;topic=2656.360;num_replies=406;sesc=dc3e967e2e294c43a8d01ffbae9eec41
Second vote -we have a winner!
I watched the Colts put the beat down on the Niners and Seahags ~; ;D down at the pub in Redondo Beach that had Green Flash on tap. Most excellent. ;-T ;)
As an aside, I have actually seen a green flash after years of watching when I'm out here. It takes a storm out over the ocean.
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@Triple Jim-- Lord Chesterfield is now $26. a case in bottles and $22. in cans around here. It's about 5%. I'm planning to bring a few cases to Barber this weekend.
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I don't think a day goes by without something happening to make me feel old. (http://www.lakeserv.net/kaw/photos/misc_photos/icon_lol.gif) :BEER:
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Green Flash IPA on draught ....... Man, you know how to hurt a guy.
I understand, tho, that Green Flash Brewery is planning a manufacturing brewery in Virginia Beach - may get on tap around here soon. One can hope.
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I find myself reaching for a pint of Boddingtons more often than not, and for Gulden Draak when not for Boddingtons.
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Since I missed the single malt discussion, I much prefer the Aberlour A'Bunadh or Glenlivet Nadurra 16 year.
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Indexed list of the 2388 Belgian Beers
www.bierebel.com/biere.php
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Indexed list of the 2388 Belgian Beers
www.bierebel.com/biere.php
Us Yanks can get the Leffe Bruin in the grocery stores now.
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Hacker-Pschorr Weisse (Hefe Weisse)
Founders Breakfast Stout
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Not being a beer snob or wanting to put on more weight, right now my favorite daily beer is Rolling Rock. :P
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My neighbor works at Goose Island, a medium-sized brewer here in Chicago. They took heat for "selling out" (literally) to AB Inbev, but they still produce great beer.
Anyway, I bought a four pack of notoriously hard to find Bourbon County Stout last weekend, and despite its motor oil color and consistency and 13% ABV (or maybe because of it) I just love it.
Otherwise, give me anything made by Belgian monks.
Update: actually, to me beer is like coffee: as long as it's free and the correct temperature, I'll drink anything.
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(http://res.cloudinary.com/ratebeer/image/upload/w_250,c_limit,q_85,d_beer_def.gif/beer_680.jpg)
North Coast Old Rasputin Russian Imperial Stout
Also the Anchor Brewing Christmas Ale 2013
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Hacker-Pschorr Weisse (Hefe Weisse)
Founders Breakfast Stout
Big Gruesome Chocolate Peanut Butter Stout is pretty good too.
http://www.springhousebeer.com/pages/beer/big-gruesome
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Anyone else try Sam Adams White Christmas yet? Pretty good seasonal brew.
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I spent 5 yrs in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, where alcohol is against the law. We (the Army Corps of Engineers) managed to smuggle in hard liquor but beer was considered too bulky to smuggle in, so I had to learn to brew (because I don't care for hard liquor). I read about 4 or 5 books on brewing and then managed to order everything I needed through the APO to brew my own. I used Pabst Blue Ribbon hopped malt that I got in a can, corn sugar, yeast and yeast nutrient. I brewed about 5 gallons a week, and let it set for at least 3 weeks after bottling before drinking. The advantage of brewing your own is you can determine what percentage of alcohol you want and add or subtract hops to suit your taste. After I perfected my brewing technique I probably taught 20 people how to brew, including a couple of Army Generals. Served ice cold on a hot day in the desert it was like liquid magic.
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I spent 5 yrs in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, where alcohol is against the law.
To update the old Mormon joke: Why do you need to invite two Saudis when you go fishing? Because if you invite one, he'll drink all your beer.
(with apologies to Mormons, Saudis and fishermen)
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Anchor Steam :BEER:
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To update the old Mormon joke: Why do you need to invite two Saudis when you go fishing? Because if you invite one, he'll drink all your beer.
(with apologies to Mormons, Saudis and fishermen)
That's true, but what's even more true is if you invite one Saudi to dinner he'll eat all of your pork ribs, and later sear to anyone that they were really lamb or goat.
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Did not see anyone mention STRAUB Brewery from St. Mary's PA. Great beer, still made with the original recipe from 1872 and the company is still family owned. Before the word microbrewery was even thought of, these guys were brewing great beer in the German tradition and continue to this day :BEER: :BEER: :BEER:
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Had an Abita (Louisiana) Purple Haze last weekend with some seafood gumbo on a cold day. It is not for everyone (a bit of raspberry flavor)-- but I like it once in a while.
No Label Brewery here in the Katy, TEXAS areas makes a complex Hefeweizen style called El Hefe....good stuff, and I know the owner/founder.
Local fresh beer is best.
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Otherwise, give me anything made by Belgian monks.
;-T :+1 :drool
I found Engelszell Gregorius, a trappist beer from Austria, a nice experience
Strong at almost 10 %, dark, slightly sweet, complex with some malt, caramel, fruit :BEER:
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;-T :+1 :drool
I found Engelszell Gregorius, a trappist beer from Austria, a nice experience
Strong at almost 10 %, dark, slightly sweet, complex with some malt, caramel, fruit :BEER:
I thought you'd recommend some Mack here ;D
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Rodeo Clown (IPA) goes good with pizza.
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Currently 39 degrees Celsius, got up to 41! So any beer that's cold is a good beer! :BEER:
http://www.weatherzone.com.au/station.jsp?lt=site&lc=9021&list=ob
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When I was in college at the U of MD, Yuengling Old German was $4.69 a case, when Bud was around $10.
Not familiar with the Yuengling variety, but Herman the German is part of my garage art.
(http://rs158.pbsrc.com/albums/t111/velofish/Mobile%20Uploads/tools51_zpsa214d067.jpg~320x480)
More garage art, anybody remember this one?
(http://rs158.pbsrc.com/albums/t111/velofish/Mobile%20Uploads/tools50_zps30761861.jpg~320x480)
I'll second the recommendation for Straub. I like their habit of taking a few weeks off for Deer season, and their refusal to expand. Good stuff. Last time I was up there and bought a case, Mr. Straub came out and warned me to keep it out of the sun or "It'll skunk on ya."
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I thought you'd recommend some Mack here ;D
Well, I suppose I should!
Mack, established 1877 and the northermost brewery in the world, at 70N like Prudhoe Bay Alaska :BEER:
From my youth I remember Mack's ordinary pilsener as pretty good. Then they had a stronger pilsener that was really outstanding.
Today, I just don't know. They make several sorts of beer, and I'll sample them if you're really interested? 8)
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I haven't read the entire post, however.....
I found quite a nice beer when visiting Austin, Tx.
Circle Blur.
I wanna go back.
kjf
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Did not see anyone mention STRAUB Brewery from St. Mary's PA. Great beer, still made with the original recipe from 1872 and the company is still family owned. Before the word microbrewery was even thought of, these guys were brewing great beer in the German tradition and continue to this day :BEER: :BEER: :BEER:
Is the golden tap still open in the back room?
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Valvoline racing, 10W40..... Really, this is not much different than an oil thread, all these fancy pancy beers?? you don't really buy the stuff, you just rent it!
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Oklahoma Choc . Home brewed of course , and served in a pottery jar for historical Accuracy
Dusty
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Is the golden tap still open in the back room?
Ha.... last time i heard it was, but that was some time ago
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I used Pabst Blue Ribbon hopped malt that I got in a can, corn sugar, yeast and yeast nutrient.
Cheers to a fellow home brewer! You sure that wasn't Premier Blue Ribbon malt extract? That was one of the very first I tried about 35 years ago. Do you still brew? Have you tried all-grain brewing?
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Hi,
there is only ONE country where they make some ;D very, very good beers.
According Wikipedia they produce about 1150 different kinds of beer... :BEER:
Belgium!!
(I live in the south of the Netherlands, 25 mls from Belgium)
Here are a few in a friends shop
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u420/AvdBiggelaar/Olympus%20O-MD%20E-M5/37_zpsf71b0aa3.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/AvdBiggelaar/media/Olympus%20O-MD%20E-M5/37_zpsf71b0aa3.jpg.html)
My favorite... Oerbier:
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u420/AvdBiggelaar/Olympus%20O-MD%20E-M5/064_zps8ea21281.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/AvdBiggelaar/media/Olympus%20O-MD%20E-M5/064_zps8ea21281.jpg.html)
A exclusive beer:
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u420/AvdBiggelaar/Olympus%20O-MD%20E-M5/DSCF3948_zps45af441a.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/AvdBiggelaar/media/Olympus%20O-MD%20E-M5/DSCF3948_zps45af441a.jpg.html)
Yes, in the shop at the abbye, "in den Vrede".
My weekly beer:
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u420/AvdBiggelaar/Olympus%20O-MD%20E-M5/P6220069_zps033e5d88.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/AvdBiggelaar/media/Olympus%20O-MD%20E-M5/P6220069_zps033e5d88.jpg.html)
This is a tastfull, strong Dutch beer...
I know, I have a tough life... ::)
My only "six pack" is in the fridge...
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And of course the most interesting beer is on the top shelf! ;D
BTW,- is the IPA (to the right) also Belgian ?
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Hi,
And of course the most interesting beer is on the top shelf! ;D
BTW,- is the IPA (to the right) also Belgian ?
No, the "Ipa" is an American beer.
Flying Dog Brewery, Frederick, MD 21703. The beer, Snake Dog India Pale Ale.
http://flyingdogales.com/
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Electric Dave's Beer from Bisbee Arizona. Its a nice 20 minute ride from my house, to get some. I like to drink the Electric Dave's draft, they have on tap at the famous St. Elmo's bar , in brewery gulch. There is now a microbrewery right across the street from Elmos, Bisbee Brewery, that makes some killer ambers, and dark beer. You can sit in the room with the huge stainless steel vats, and drink your beer. They also make some delicious root beer, if a non- alcoholic brew is preferred. The microbrewery will also sell you any of their beers in a glass jug, like what moonshiners use, so you can take some home.
Rick.
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Hi,
there is only ONE country where they make some ;D very, very good beers.
According Wikipedia they produce about 1150 different kinds of beer... :BEER:
Belgium!!
(I live in the south of the Netherlands, 25 mls from Belgium)
Here are a few in a friends shop
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u420/AvdBiggelaar/Olympus%20O-MD%20E-M5/37_zpsf71b0aa3.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/AvdBiggelaar/media/Olympus%20O-MD%20E-M5/37_zpsf71b0aa3.jpg.html)
My favorite... Oerbier:
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u420/AvdBiggelaar/Olympus%20O-MD%20E-M5/064_zps8ea21281.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/AvdBiggelaar/media/Olympus%20O-MD%20E-M5/064_zps8ea21281.jpg.html)
A exclusive beer:
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u420/AvdBiggelaar/Olympus%20O-MD%20E-M5/DSCF3948_zps45af441a.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/AvdBiggelaar/media/Olympus%20O-MD%20E-M5/DSCF3948_zps45af441a.jpg.html)
Yes, in the shop at the abbye, "in den Vrede".
My weekly beer:
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u420/AvdBiggelaar/Olympus%20O-MD%20E-M5/P6220069_zps033e5d88.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/AvdBiggelaar/media/Olympus%20O-MD%20E-M5/P6220069_zps033e5d88.jpg.html)
This is a tastfull, strong Dutch beer...
I know, I have a tough life... ::)
My only "six pack" is in the fridge...
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Commence drool.....
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Yuengling, Rolling Rock, Blue Moon, Heineken, Wachusett Summer Ale
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Hi,
I forgot a tiny something...
From this:
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u420/AvdBiggelaar/Olympus%20O-MD%20E-M5/37_zpsf71b0aa3.jpg)
His webshop, delivering all over the world...
(he has send packages towards Brasil!!)
http://www.speciaalbierpakket.nl/
I hope this tiny bit advertising is allowed
cheers...
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The best beer in the world comes from the US. Every style, every influence can all be found here in small breweries across the county. I'm partial to beers brewed in NY and PA and dare I say New England ;)
Not being stuck in any one tradition we do what we do best: innovate...
American small batch brews rock!
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I love American micro brews, BUT like typical or stereotypical Americans, soooo many breweries overdo it.
Sometimes a high quality, but more simple European beer is better.
I like beers with balance and complexity, but most of all a rich malty smooth flavor with JUST the right amount of hop finish.
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I recently imbibed a brew from Estonia that was quite good. Agree with Kev. M , the simpler Euro robust brews are hard to beat . Not really a fan of IPAs , more of a Pilsner guy , but not the weak imitations . The real skunky stuff .
Dusty
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Are any of you going to be at the Strong Beer Festival in Phoenix, Az? It is the 15th of February. I am flying into Phoenix earlier in the week. Would be great to see some of you geese there.
Willie
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Dust, my boy, the skunk flavor isn't put there by the breweries. It happens when UV reacts with hop compounds. I've heard that the guys at Heineken purposely put it in green bottles for the US market so it'll skunk, and taste like we think it's supposed to, and they laugh about it. The European Heineken I've seen is in brown bottles or aluminum cans.
Miller gets away with the clear bottles for High Life because... ... there's no hops in it! They use some alpha acids like hops have in them to give some bitterness, but no actual hops. Pour a hoppy beer into a glass and leave it in direct sunlight for a few minutes for a great skunk flavor. ;D
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Oh I know that Jim , and skunky 'Merican beer is awful , but Pilsner Urquell , or Zambezi from Africa is so satisfying, like a mature slightly fiesty female , puts up a bit of a fight before surrendering , makes the experience gratifying .
Dusty
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Guiness with a wee glass of Paddy's Irish for me tonight. 81 days till St. Pat's day! ;-T
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for those in the westernPA area : recently only available at their restaurant here are a few North Country brews that are now available at distribuors, etc
https://www.facebook.com/NorthCountryBrewing?filter=1
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I've never had anything that really compares to the beer I make. When you write your own recipe, you get exactly what you want. There are beers that I consider good, like Dogfish Head and Flying Dog Snake Dog IPA, but when I buy store beer, it means I'm out of my own. There is no comparison.
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From a fellow home brewer, I agree on all counts.
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I've never had anything that really compares to the beer I make. When you write your own recipe, you get exactly what you want. There are beers that I consider good, like Dogfish Head and Flying Dog Snake Dog IPA, but when I buy store beer, it means I'm out of my own. There is no comparison.
Interesting,- but can you make a Pilsner better than Urquell ?
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Interesting,- but can you make a Pilsner better than Urquell ?
My favorite .
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I don't mean to butt ahead of Pasta Hog, but "better" is very subjective. If someone wants me to make a beer like his favorite, and uses that favorite as the criterion for judging mine, the best I can hope for is "as good as". Pilsners are fairly simple beers though, so it's not hard to make a very good one. For fun I once tried to make a beer like Budweiser. I used about 40% wheat malt and 60% barley malt instead of using all barley malt, replaced some of the grain with corn sugar, which makes alcohol without adding flavor, and I added very little hops. The result, if not identical, was certainly very similar. Then I vowed to never make any more like that. :D
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Please Jim , never do that again . Grinning here
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I won't, Dusty, but keep in mind that Pilsner Urquell is a lot closer to Bud than to good beer. ;D
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I won't, Dusty, but keep in mind that Pilsner Urquell is a lot closer to Bud than to good beer. ;D
Only when stored next to bud . Grinning
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That wasn't quite the response I expected. Good job. ;D
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That wasn't quite the response I expected. Good job. ;D
Laughing here . Maybe the best beer I have ever tasted was dog bolter ( sorry , spell check is screwing with me )
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Personally, I like good German beer: TAP 4, 6, and Weihenstephaner . I don’t know why anybody would like IPA’s, but after I went through a dozen or so to figure this out, I finally found a good tasting IPA called Hop Notch IPA. Still looking for Heady Topper IPA without success. Yes, there is a better Pilsner beer besides Pilsner Urqell and that would be another Czech Pilsner called Czechware. I also have a St. Bernardus ABT, a Belgian beer in the frig, never tried it, maybe tomorrow.
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Jim, I disagree that Pilsners are simple or easy. There's an art to clean, crisp flavor with perfect balance.
As for replicating domestic Budweiser shouldn't you have used rice too?
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What about the beechwood aging??
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Or the ground up bug parts that give it that king of beers taste .
Dusty
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Comparing Czech Pilsner to (hate to write this word) so I will use a hint, Clydesdales....is blasphemy.
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Jim, I disagree that Pilsners are simple or easy. There's an art to clean, crisp flavor with perfect balance.
As for replicating domestic Budweiser shouldn't you have used rice too?
I didn't feel like buying rice suitable for brewing just for that batch. :D My point about Pilsners being simple is just a matter of the ingredient list. It's a lot shorter than many other styles, and by far not the most complicated to make. On the other hand, there's certainly an art to making any beer without getting flavors creeping in that don't belong there, so from that point of view you're correct that Pilsners, and most other beers, are not simple or easy to make at the highest levels.
John, from what I've read, the Beech curls added in the latter fermentation process have been boiled to remove any flavor they might impart to Bud. They're there to add more surface area for settled-out yeast to stay in contact with the beer to remove acetaldehyde and/or diacetyl, which cause green-apple and buttery flavors that aren't desired. You don't normally need wood curls to avoid those flavors in home brewing.
Bill, I don't remember anyone doing that! I just meant that Pilsner Urquell is closer to Bud in flavor than beers I like. :)
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I don't really like Urquell. No body, no balance. Very little flavor. No complexity. Skunky, because they use green bottles. It's not for me. If I had to pick a country to produce my beer, neglecting US micro brews, it would be Belgium, followed by Ireland. Germans and other people from central Europe get way too much credit for their beer, if you ask me. It tends to be boring. Like a BMW.
I'm sure I could make something just like Urquell, only better. That's not much of a boast. It's very easy to make good beer. For one thing, I could keep light away from it so it doesn't produce mercaptans. That right there would be a big step up.
RE Bud, it's disgusting. Not even beer. But I had a friend who preferred Bud to actual beer, so I made up a recipe for American-style "lawnmower beer." I had to put corn in it. It was a very pleasant thing to drink like water on a hot day. I guess I would compare it to a shandy.
Bud and other fake beers trigger a little bit of a gag reflex, because they taste like sweetened soap, and the beer I made didn't have that quality. The only typical American beer I can stand to drink is Stroh's. Not sure why.
I like to make beers with a strong, complex set of hops, and I like using crystal malt to balance the bitterness.
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Funny story: my dad used to represent Anheuser-Busch. They showed him a brewery. This was a long time ago, so things may have changed. They said they made ONE beer. If they canned it right out of fermentation, it was Busch. A little aging, and it was Bud. A little more, and it was Michelob. To make light beer, they added carbonated water. I don't know if they were pulling his leg, but judging by the pitiable products they make, it sounds credible to me.
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Triple Jim, understood, maybe I was too quick to the draw. Beer is to each individual taste. Life is good!
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I love American micro brews, BUT like typical or stereotypical Americans, soooo many breweries overdo it.
Sometimes a high quality, but more simple European beer is better.
I like beers with balance and complexity, but most of all a rich malty smooth flavor with JUST the right amount of hop finish.
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Sometimes to YOU its better. weren't you the one who lectured me not to over generalize in areas of subjectivity??? ;D
There's plenty of simple micro or small batch brew in America. Plenty of complex too... ALL the time to me complex is better.. I like hops and malt so imperial ambers, imperial red IPAs, imperials IPAs do it for me and to my knowledge Europe makes none of that. I detest Belgians- after drinking them in the early 90's and getting plain sick of them- and dislike weizens and pilsners. Europe doesn't have much for me except an Altbier or two.
I'll sticks to my guns: the plethora and quality of brews coming from the US (non mass market) rocks! No other country brews the variety we do and I for one am happy to have it. I've two breweries down the road from me that make it even better!
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Sometimes to YOU its better. weren't you the one who lectured me not to over generalize in areas of subjectivity??? ;D
There's plenty of simple micro or small batch brew in America. Plenty of complex too... ALL the time to me complex is better.. I like hops and malt so imperial ambers, imperial red IPAs, imperials IPAs do it for me and to my knowledge Europe makes none of that. I detest Belgians- after drinking them in the early 90's and getting plain sick of them- and dislike weizens and pilsners. Europe doesn't have much for me except an Altbier or two.
I'll sticks to my guns: the plethora and quality of brews coming from the US (non mass market) rocks! No other country brews the variety we do and I for one am happy to have it. I've two breweries down the road from me that make it even better!
I covered it with "sometimes". :-* ;)
That said, I dunno, I've only been going out of my way searching for micro brews for a couple of decades, maybe I've missed a bunch of simple, balanced, beers...but probably not.
It's more likely you just prefer more complex (I'd call overdone) beers than me...that's a more likely explanation.
Actually, just hearing some of the styles you enjoy I am sure the difference is in definition. The typical IPA or APA is at the heart of what I'm talking about.
Hell, half the stouts and porters I get these days are too.
Don't really care for weizens, or most flowery Belgians.
I prefer rich flavors, medium body, crisp hops...lagers or ales, but more delicate than not in either case.
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Triple Jim, understood, maybe I was too quick to the draw. Beer is to each individual taste. Life is good!
Absolutely, Bill! No offense was taken, and when you're in the area, stop by for a homebrew. ;D
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The best beer to me is the one I just opened. But I really don't like Coors lite.
A little Whisky makes a beer more drinkable.
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Triple Jim,
I will make a point to stop by this summer. :BEER:
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I prefer my own but my go to beer is bud (every bar has it) but for good commercial beers Grolsch, Smithwicks, and Happy Budda.
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'San Mig Light' or 'Beer na Beer' when in Philippines
'Carlton Black', 'Tooheys Extra Dry', 'Boags Premium', 'Coopers Pale Ale', 'Red Back' or 'Crown Lager' when in Oz
'Tusker' when in East Africa
'Guilder' or 'Star' when in West Africa
'Simba' in DRC
'Jack Black Premium Lager' or 'Castle' (when on tap) in Sth Africa
'Tsingtao' when in China
'SP Lager' when in PNG
I guess I just like beer.
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"Drinkable" is such a revealing term. It says a lot about the crap we drink, as well as our uneducated palates. I never struggle to drink a tasty draft Guinness or nice Belgian tripel. The struggle comes when you have to turn down another one. When did drinking beer become work?
The BudMilCoors establishment has taught us to hate hops. That's crazy. A person who hasn't developed a taste for hops does not like beer. He likes carbonated water and getting buzzed.
Suddenly I feel like going out and picking up a barleywine.
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Personally, I like good German beer: TAP 4, 6, and Weihenstephaner . I don’t know why anybody would like IPA’s, but after I went through a dozen or so to figure this out, I finally found a good tasting IPA called Hop Notch IPA. Still looking for Heady Topper IPA without success. Yes, there is a better Pilsner beer besides Pilsner Urqell and that would be another Czech Pilsner called Czechware. I also have a St. Bernardus ABT, a Belgian beer in the frig, never tried it, maybe tomorrow.
Will, do you mean Czechvar ? That`s what the real Czech Budvar , which gave(sold :)) name to the US Bud while the czech brand still was stuck behind the iron curtain, is called in America now a days.
Just to avoid any confusion of names and labels I believe.
The Budvar is not as hoppy and crisp as the Urquell,-
Budweiser Budvar Brewery (Budějovický Budvar) is a brewery in the city of České Budějovice (Budweis), Czech Republic, that is best known for brewing a beer known as Budweiser Budvar in the European Union; Czechvar in the United States, Canada, Mexico, Panama, Brazil and Peru;[1] and either Budweiser Budvar or Budějovický Budvar in the rest of the world.
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Dust, my boy, the skunk flavor isn't put there by the breweries. It happens when UV reacts with hop compounds. I've heard that the guys at Heineken purposely put it in green bottles for the US market so it'll skunk, and taste like we think it's supposed to, and they laugh about it. The European Heineken I've seen is in brown bottles or aluminum cans.
Miller gets away with the clear bottles for High Life because... ... there's no hops in it! They use some alpha acids like hops have in them to give some bitterness, but no actual hops. Pour a hoppy beer into a glass and leave it in direct sunlight for a few minutes for a great skunk flavor. ;D
I've always hated Heineken. Now I know why it tastes so badly. On the other hand, I enjoy the High Life, not my first choice but it's OK.
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"Drinkable" is such a revealing term. It says a lot about the crap we drink, as well as our uneducated palates. I never struggle to drink a tasty draft Guinness or nice Belgian tripel. The struggle comes when you have to turn down another one. When did drinking beer become work?
The BudMilCoors establishment has taught us to hate hops. That's crazy. A person who hasn't developed a taste for hops does not like beer. He likes carbonated water and getting buzzed.
Suddenly I feel like going out and picking up a barleywine.
:+1
Seems like both hopless Miller and hoppy Urquell is now owned by the SABMiller group though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SABMiller
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Different beers for different situations.
Negro modelo with Mexican food.
Coors light after welding as it cuts fume mouth on a really hot day.
On the porch on a cool day a big english ale...
Red or blue label trappist beer from Belgium with a good friend ready to watch the day go by.
When traveling, local microbrews are fun at the end of a day on the road.
I feel so fortunate to have so many choices! Life is very good!
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Coors light after welding as it cuts fume mouth on a really hot day.
Ha, I never heard that one before. :D I solved the fume mount problem about 37 years ago when I bought a TIG welder. I guess that's why I don't buy Coors light.
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I don't really like Urquell. No body, no balance. Very little flavor.
This makes me wonder if the Urquell Pilsner is the same on both sides of the pond ?
Urquell has grown big with the world wide operating SAB ownership, and it`s not uncommon for big brewing companies like this to modify and adapt their products to local conditions, that be tradition of taste, access of necessary ingredients, marketing strategies etc.
Never the less,- the bottled or canned Urquell we buy at the grocery store today, is just a bleached version of what it once was.
I have tasted the keg dispense draft version of Urquell, - but I still miss to taste the nr.1 pilsner of this world (if you like it or not ;D),- the cask version !
Almost all draft Pilsner Urquell available throughout the world is served via keg dispense under carbon dioxide pressure, and has been since the 1960s. However, small quantities of the beer in cask conditioned form, dispensed from wooden casks are sometimes made available in the Czech Republic and was also seen in the United Kingdom during 2012.[3]
The cask version of Pilsner Urquell is unpasteurised, unfiltered and naturally conditioned with no added CO2, and is far closer in character to the way the beer would have been in the 19th century.
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That would be great. The world really needs another rice beer.
Bud is loaded with rice. To homebrewers, rice is known as a cheap ingredient that adds no flavor. If, for some reason, you wanted to AVOID flavor, rice would be the answer.
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Wonder how long before they ruin Urquell? "Let's see , how can we increase our profit margin?"
Dusty
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You can always go for a Staropramen (Anheuser-Busch) a Starobrno (Heineken) or why not a Budweiser (also Anheuser-Busch) to differ. 8)
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Drinkable simply means agrees with one's tastes, and perhaps is lighter in body or alcohol content so you can have a half dozen without feeling too full.
It doesn't necessarily mean the enemy of hops.
That said, easy with the snobby educated palette BS. It's quite possible to have a well educated palette but a distaste for excessively bitter or citrusy beers.
Drinkable to me is a Guinness, or Fullers, or Palm, or Paulaner, or Samuel Adams, or a myriad of other lagers and ales that prioritize a rich flavor with crisp, but ending hop finish.
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No, "drinkable" is a marketing term the beer conglomerates came up with, to pander to people who aren't man enough to drink the real thing. It's a term used in commercials.
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No, "drinkable" is a marketing term the beer conglomerates came up with, to pander to people who aren't man enough to drink the real thing. It's a term used in commercials.
That may be one colloquial usage, but it's hardly the only one.
That said, "man enough" there's a stupid term, rarely used by any who are, kinda like "real". ::)
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Jane, you ignorant slut...
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:D :D :D
God I miss him...
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I've always hated Heineken. Now I know why it tastes so badly. On the other hand, I enjoy the High Life, not my first choice but it's OK.
Heineken tastes badly? How can you tell? It doesn't taste anything at all. ;D
- Like most of those mass-produced so called beers, like Carlsberg or your local Budweiser (Not to be confused with the original Czeck product of the same brand-name!)
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In Tucson, Nimbus Brewing...Monkey Shine...Sometimes they push it through the lines with nitrogen.
Couldn't help myself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0S4KBV8ZnQ
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Wonder what her recommended inflation pressure is ?
Dusty
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She's above spec for sure...
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Do you suppose she is tube type ?
Dusty
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Absolutely... and they don't last forever...
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I covered it with "sometimes". :-* ;)
That said, I dunno, I've only been going out of my way searching for micro brews for a couple of decades, maybe I've missed a bunch of simple, balanced, beers...but probably not.
It's more likely you just prefer more complex (I'd call overdone) beers than me...that's a more likely explanation.
Actually, just hearing some of the styles you enjoy I am sure the difference is in definition. The typical IPA or APA is at the heart of what I'm talking about.
Hell, half the stouts and porters I get these days are too.
Don't really care for weizens, or most flowery Belgians.
I prefer rich flavors, medium body, crisp hops...lagers or ales, but more delicate than not in either case.
More delicate, or "session" beers sort of fell out of vogue in American craft brewing a few years ago when Ales on steroids became all the rage. I didn't like them at first but now that they've grown on me everything else tastes watery. If you're into something more subtle (I hesitate to say underdone :)), try Troeggs "Hop Back Amber" or Wachusettes "Farm House Ale" if you already haven't. They're excellent drinkable beers that still have well rounded flavor. Blue point's "Toasted Lager" is also pretty good on tap but not in the bottle. Actually Long Island has a few good breweries in addition to Blue Point. Southhampton makes a "Publik House Ale" that also fits in this category, though it's shel life is very short...
They're out there. Not en masse but you can find a few gems. the two breweries by me brew these types of beers as well. If you ever see Defiant Brewery "Muddy creek Lager" (almost an amber)
scoff it up quick!
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Variety is very pleasant when tasting beers. There's really no reason to try to pick a favorite, just enjoy all the various tastes. If a favorite of the day emerges, then go with it, but there's always tomorrow.
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Guinness, (1 or 2) New Castle Brown, (3 or 4 ) Chimay, Carlos Golden Triple (1 or 2), Yuengling (headache beer 1 or 2 but tastes great) PBR (to be drank AFTER the good stuff ;) ) and I also like Genessee if it is fresh. Sam Adams. Shiner Octoberfest.. One very nice beer from a very unlikely source: Iron City Dark Bock beer. Sometimes sold as Brewmeisters Choice, or Augustiner. Their regular beer tastes bad, but the dark is very good beer. Don't know why.
Some of the local Choc beer from McCallister Ok ain't bad either.
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Guinness, (1 or 2) New Castle Brown, (3 or 4 ) Chimay, Carlos Golden Triple (1 or 2), Yuengling (headache beer 1 or 2 but tastes great) PBR (to be drank AFTER the good stuff ;) ) and I also like Genessee if it is fresh. Sam Adams. Shiner Octoberfest.. One very nice beer from a very unlikely source: Iron City Dark Bock beer. Sometimes sold as Brewmeisters Choice, or Augustiner. Their regular beer tastes bad, but the dark is very good beer. Don't know why.
Some of the local Choc beer from McCallister Ok ain't bad either.
I love Yuengling! Had it when I was in Virginia over the summer. Drank plenty and never got a headache or anything else beside drunk. I wish I could get it here in IA.
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I've never had any ill effects from Yuengling either, but it is lawn mowing beer. That's the oldest brewery in the US, by the way, in Pottsville, PA.
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I've never had any ill effects from Yuengling either, but it is lawn mowing beer. That's the oldest brewery in the US, by the way, in Pottsville, PA.
yup it goes down easy when its hot out but it still has good flavor. Thats the problem I feel with most American beers is it has been watered down so much it loses it individual character.
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yup it goes down easy when its hot out but it still has good flavor. Thats the problem I feel with most American beers is it has been watered down so much it loses it individual character.
It's not that American beers are necessarily "watered down" PER SE.
I mean, alcohol content is just fine.
It's that MOST of them are imitating a particular style (Pilsner) but doing so in a way that appeals to the masses (kinda like McDonalds).
YES though that means they are relatively bland when compared with fuller/richer styles of beers that use more robust flavors either in malt and/or hop ingredients.
Don't get me wrong, I can enjoy the cheap stuff too - especially out on the boat, or beach side. There's a time and a place for an Imperial Stout and to me, neither of those are it.
But yes the more bland flavored and lightly hopped major US domestic brewers are not my first choice.
Yuengling is NOT a bad compromise. And they actually make some other interesting beers including a porter and an ale - my favorite probably being Lord Chesterfield Ale, kinda reminds me of Ballentine Ale which was another mass market style, but at least had some more flavor.
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This is a great time to be a beer lover in the USA; excellent microbreweries are popping up everywhere and even the popular megabreweries are starting to produce varieties of beer with more character. I agree with some earlier posters that the relatively bland American pilsners are fine under some circumstances. For example, after a hard workout, I find Coors light to be very refreshing. Otherwise, I like drinking more robust beers, especially ones that are new to me. We just joined a beer-of-the-month club; our first case arrives in a few weeks, and I am looking forward to trying some new and unusual beers.
Our vacations are generally taken on a motorcycle, and we often travel with no particular destination in mind--often just keep an eye on the weather forecasts, and head toward the favorable conditions. However, whenever we arrive at a place where we might stay for a day or two, the first thing we do is a google search for local microbreweries. We've had a great time on most of our recent trips. :BEER:
Jon
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To be honest I have become a bit of a beer snob since brewing my own. There is a beer for for every occasion. Beach/boat an American light is fine. Other times are great for an IPA or a stout with a good steak. A nice pilsner with seafood but its like wine screw the rules and drink what you like. :D
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Dust, my boy, the skunk flavor isn't put there by the breweries. It happens when UV reacts with hop compounds. I've heard that the guys at Heineken purposely put it in green bottles for the US market so it'll skunk, and taste like we think it's supposed to, and they laugh about it. The European Heineken I've seen is in brown bottles or aluminum cans.
Miller gets away with the clear bottles for High Life because... ... there's no hops in it! They use some alpha acids like hops have in them to give some bitterness, but no actual hops. Pour a hoppy beer into a glass and leave it in direct sunlight for a few minutes for a great skunk flavor. ;D
i will never drink a beer in a clear bottle. however, i always thought brown or green were ok. and say what you will about heineken, while its not my favorite, you can drink an awful lot and not have any type of hangover. my preference is duvel or maredsous, though im not wealthy enough to drink that stuff exclusively.
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i will never drink a beer in a clear bottle. however, i always thought brown or green were ok. and say what you will about heineken, while its not my favorite, you can drink an awful lot and not have any type of hangover. my preference is duvel or maredsous, though im not wealthy enough to drink that stuff exclusively.
Clear doesn't block any damaging light.
Green filters some, but not all.
Brown, I believe, filters all damaging light.
That said, ultra-light styled mass market beers may never see light in their clear bottles before they are removed from the case, placed in fridge or cooler, then placed in your hand.
All that said, there's a large and growing movement to can microbrews both because it saves money on production/canning and because of the added protection against light.
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also never trust a beer with a twist off cap.
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Here's my new favorite... (http://www.atlassalesinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Atlas-ST_3x3_ChocWntr13.jpg)
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Home brew I have a milk stout in bottle and a California common on tap!!!
Prost!
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Here's my new favorite... (http://www.atlassalesinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Atlas-ST_3x3_ChocWntr13.jpg)
looks interesting, I just picked up a growler of Orange Chocolate Stout last night. ;-T
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American breweries didn't start out with the intention of making bland beer. They do that now, because we're so brainwashed, we won't drink good beer. In the beginning, it was all about the bottom line. Hops are expensive, and so is two-row barley. Rice and corn were comparatively cheap, for good reason. The greedheads at Anheuser-Busch and other companies realized that advertising, not flavor, drives beer buying in the US, so they took nearly everything except water and alcohol out of their disgusting products, knowing most of us would buy them anyway.
For most consumers, it's all about getting buzzed. They don't care at all about flavor. If they did, it would be impossible to sell things like Mickey's Wide Mouth or Colt 45. The macrobrew industry is all about pandering to clueless consumers who only think about price and cute commercials.
It's ignorant to call BudMilCoors a "style." That's like saying driving a car with one primer-colored door is a style. It lends legitimacy to a scam. No one in his right mind would try to brew this crap at home or in a micro-brewery, any more than a chef would try to make Wonder Bread or Pop Tarts. I made my own lawnmower beer once, as an experiment, but that's all it was, and it was a thousand times better than Bud.
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Enough with the bullshit rhetoric.
I'm no fan of the big American brewers, but to pretend what they produce isn't a light pilsner is just as ignorant.
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American breweries didn't start out with the intention of making bland beer. They do that now, because we're so brainwashed, we won't drink good beer. In the beginning, it was all about the bottom line. Hops are expensive, and so is two-row barley. Rice and corn were comparatively cheap, for good reason. The greedheads at Anheuser-Busch and other companies realized that advertising, not flavor, drives beer buying in the US, so they took nearly everything except water and alcohol out of their disgusting products, knowing most of us would buy them anyway.
For most consumers, it's all about getting buzzed. They don't care at all about flavor. If they did, it would be impossible to sell things like Mickey's Wide Mouth or Colt 45. The macrobrew industry is all about pandering to clueless consumers who only think about price and cute commercials.
You forgot to call us "sheeple."
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Kev, when it comes to beer, there are people who make it and people who BS. Guess which category you're in? You don't know the first thing about it.
Taking a rice and hop-extract travesty like Bud seriously is like calling a Mustang II a sports car.
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Kev, when it comes to beer, there are people who make it and people who BS. Guess which category you're in? You don't know the first thing about it.
Bwahaha..look, I wasn't looking for a pissing match, but since you decided it was necessary.
Maybe I should post pics of my little bro (Jas67) and I working in the Philadelphia Brewing Company.
Or maybe I'll just tell a yarn. The year was 1993. I'd just bought my first new motorcycle (1993 Harley XL1200) and started my career with Chilton.
A good friend from the law firm I'd worked for while finishing up under-grad part time had returned home to Oregon for the holidays.
Unbeknownst to me she'd brought a six of my homebrew with her (I was attempting to produce more than the legal 200 gallons/year out of principle).
She decided to share it with a childhood friend, the master brewer for Rogue.
Next thing I knew I was on the phone with him. He was offering me a paid apprenticeship. Said they basically made beer and fished.
It was my path not chosen, and I'll always wonder about it, even though I can hardly ever regret it.
But it was nice to have the offer...and I'll always hold it dear.
Maybe I'll even pursue it through other venues when the time comes to move on.
I'm fortunate enough that I should have the option to pursue another career in the next few years should I so chose.
Of course, the reality of this makes your silly assumptions about as baseless and funny as possible.
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Jeese even the beer thread is turning ugly. Come soon spring.
Sent from my Note II
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Jeese even the beer thread is turning ugly. Come soon spring.
Sent from my Note II
nah, don't give it a second thought.
It was nothing more than the same silly base emotions to which we all too often succumb...the temptation that we are somehow better than the next for some silly reason.
But since beer is a first love of a kind I was well equipped to thwart such nonsense. :BEER:
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Oh come on fellas , this was just getting good . Grinning here .
Dusty
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk (http://tapatalk.com/m?id=1)
Only if you think good = me bitch slapping an unarmed troglodyte. :D
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Kev, sorry I got a little crabby, in spite of your gentle manner. You know I love and admire you and secretly think of you as my mentor and role model, and your knowledge of motorcycles is unexcelled. I hope you still love me, and that you will overlook my momentary snippiness. Nonetheless, Bud is not a serious beer.
Okay, you worked at a brewery. That's fine. I notice that company's brews get some reviews that suggest their products are undistinguished brews that only do well locally--not uncommon for breweries trying to cash on the microbrew fad--but I will ASSUME that means you actually know how beers are designed, and that you weren't just wheeling kegs around or dumping sacks of yeast into vats. Most brewery employees don't know anything about designing beers. I've known ladies who worked as receptionists in doctors' offices, but I wouldn't let them operate on me. Still, I'm sure you know what you're doing. Still, not everyone here has your expertise, so I will point out a few things.
Designing a beer is easy (if you know how) but not simple. There are a ton of factors.
You start with a flavor you want to create. It's something you imagine on your own. Then you have to decide what kind of beer it is. Lager, ale, barleywine, imperial stout, whatever. That puts you on the path to the right yeast, grain, mashing procedure, choice of hops, etcetera.
Every choice matters a lot. If you cheap out at any stage, you ruin the beer. If you're not familiar with the effect of each grain, you can't choose the grains for yourself, so you can't really design beer.
A good beer may have several grains in it. Each grain will contribute something meaningful. For example, roasted barley makes stouts dark, and it can impart flavors similar to chocolate and coffee. Crystal malt contains sugars yeast can't ferment well, so it provides sweetness to balance the bitterness of hops. Oats contribute protein so a beer has a nice texture and head. Rice hulls make gummy grains drain better so the wort comes out of the grain when you rinse ("sparge") it. Rice--a big component of bad American beer--contributes alcohol but not flavor. Selecting the grains takes thought. You can't just run out and get the cheapest six-row barley and cut it with rice and then expect a beer with character.
When you do the mash, the temperature matters, as I'm sure you know. Because of your background, I will assume you know what malt is, but I will tell the others. It's grain that has begun to germinate. It contains more than one enzyme that break down starch, which yeast can't ferment. They turn it into sugar, which yeast turn into alcohol. As a highly skilled brewer, you know that different enzymes work best at different temperatures, and they affect the final product.
You have to decide on the wort's specific gravity. Heavy wort makes stronger beer. One of the easiest ways to make a beer cheaper is simply to put more water in it. Measuring the specific gravity during fermentation will tell you how far along the process has gone, and it will tell you when you're done. As you clearly know, one of the bad raps Guiness gets is that it's too heavy. In fact, it's a low-gravity beer, and it's not high in calories.
As you could tell us, I'm sure, different beers are treated differently after fermentation. Many ales are ready to serve right away. Lagers are not. They have to be "lagered," which means "stored" until the yeast takes all the rough edges off the flavor. This is accomplished using chilled containers, and for a quality beer, it takes weeks. The less time a beer spends lagering, the worse it may taste. Lagering costs money, so it's a good place for a bad brewer to cut corners.
The yeast makes a big difference, too. White Labs and Wyeast--I am sure you are very familiar with their products--sell many, many varieties of yeast. Some have been cultured from yeast taken from well-regarded breweries. They do different things. There are ale yeasts and lager yeasts. There is champagne yeast. Some make beers taste like vanilla. Depending on the choice of yeast and fermentation schedule, you can get flavors like apple or banana. Some yeasts settle out. Some don't.
Hopping is a complicated business. A good beer will have hops added to it at least twice. The wort is boiled before fermentation, and this takes a long time. A couple of hours. You add some hops early in the boil and some hops late. You can add hops after the boil, too. Some hops are added for bitterness, some for flavor, and some for aroma. If you go to Dan Listermann's site, assuming it's still up, or Morebeer.com or one of the other brewing sites, you'll see that there are dozens of different hops, and you have to know how every hop tastes. When I design a beer, I know I can choose from things like Saaz, Centennial, and Amarillo hops. Some taste like lemons. Some taste like pepper or grapefruit. My best lager uses a combination of Crystal and Nugget hops. I'm sure you are familiar with them.
Cheap beers use very little hops, so they have almost no character, and they lack bitterness to balance the sweet, soapy taste that comes from the cheap grain. According to the Wall Street Journal, between 1950 and 2004, typical American beers declined in IBU from somewhere around 20 to somewhere near 10. For the others, I will not that "IBU" is a measure of bitterness. A good IPA may run around 50 IBU. A quick check reveals that Dogfish Head 120 Minute IPA comes in at 120. I don't know where a real pilsner like Urquell fits in the scheme, but it's way higher than crap like Bud and Coors, which have hop levels that are barely perceptible. In addition to lacking flavor and bitterness, Bud has almost no aroma, except for the sour apple smell that comes from the yeast. There is no reason to avoid hopping a pilsner. Steinlager is known for its bitterness, and it's a wonderful beer.
When the folks who make bad beer choose to use rice, corn, or cheap barley, they are not trying to make good beer. That's the last thing on their minds. They're just trying to make money. No one at Anheuser-Busch sat up all night trying to figure out the right balance of rice and barley. They looked at prices. They didn't try dozens of different hop schedules to see which one was best. They used whatever was available, in the smallest (cheapest) amounts possible. They ended up with a product that couldn't legally be sold in Germany as "beer," due to the reinheitsgebot or purity law. Brewers don't even consider corn and rice "grain" for brewing purposes. We call things like that "adjuncts," and it's pretty clear why.
In the many online brewing forums, you probably won't find any respected brewers asking how much rice or corn to put in their beer in the hope of equaling Bud's quality. Bud is what they started brewing to get away from. I have designed all sorts of beers. Stouts. Wheat beers. Amber lagers. Lagers the color of honey. Ales. A nice tripel. They all came out great because I did what brewers are supposed to do. I designed with a flavor, not a price point, in mind. I didn't use the cheapest junk available and then try to compensate with commercials featuring animated frogs and women in bikinis. I think most knowledgeable beer drinkers would see things my way. After all, they financed the microbrew revolution, and there had to be a reason.
I haven't brewed in a while, and the ethanol farce has jacked up the cost of grain, but when I did brew, the cost in materials was somewhere near 40 cents per 12-ounce serving. I paid boutique prices for tiny quantities. I feel certain that when Miller orders ten thousand tons of grain, they get a much better deal, so even after paying overhead, it's safe to say that they can make decent beer profitably without continuing to cheap out at every conceivable opportunity.
If, in light of all that, you still say BudMilCoors is real beer, well, you're entitled to your opinion, and maybe you will want to go into your own ideas and talk about the beers you've designed. But maybe you can see why I disagree, and why "bulls___" is not really a fair word to use to describe my take.
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Kev, sorry I got a little crabby, in spite of your gentle manner. You know I love and admire you and secretly think of you as my mentor and role model, and your knowledge of motorcycles is unexcelled. I hope you still love me, and that you will overlook my momentary snippiness. Nonetheless, Bud is not a serious beer.
Okay, you worked at a brewery. That's fine. I notice that company's brews get some reviews that suggest their products are undistinguished brews that only do well locally--not uncommon for breweries trying to cash on the microbrew fad--but I will ASSUME that means you actually know how beers are designed, and that you weren't just wheeling kegs around or dumping sacks of yeast into vats. Most brewery employees don't know anything about designing beers. I've known ladies who worked as receptionists in doctors' offices, but I wouldn't let them operate on me. Still, I'm sure you know what you're doing. Still, not everyone here has your expertise, so I will point out a few things.
Designing a beer is easy (if you know how) but not simple. There are a ton of factors.
You start with a flavor you want to create. It's something you imagine on your own. Then you have to decide what kind of beer it is. Lager, ale, barleywine, imperial stout, whatever. That puts you on the path to the right yeast, grain, mashing procedure, choice of hops, etcetera.
Every choice matters a lot. If you cheap out at any stage, you ruin the beer. If you're not familiar with the effect of each grain, you can't choose the grains for yourself, so you can't really design beer.
A good beer may have several grains in it. Each grain will contribute something meaningful. For example, roasted barley makes stouts dark, and it can impart flavors similar to chocolate and coffee. Crystal malt contains sugars yeast can't ferment well, so it provides sweetness to balance the bitterness of hops. Oats contribute protein so a beer has a nice texture and head. Rice hulls make gummy grains drain better so the wort comes out of the grain when you rinse ("sparge") it. Rice--a big component of bad American beer--contributes alcohol but not flavor. Selecting the grains takes thought. You can't just run out and get the cheapest six-row barley and cut it with rice and then expect a beer with character.
When you do the mash, the temperature matters, as I'm sure you know. Because of your background, I will assume you know what malt is, but I will tell the others. It's grain that has begun to germinate. It contains more than one enzyme that break down starch, which yeast can't ferment. They turn it into sugar, which yeast turn into alcohol. As a highly skilled brewer, you know that different enzymes work best at different temperatures, and they affect the final product.
You have to decide on the wort's specific gravity. Heavy wort makes stronger beer. One of the easiest ways to make a beer cheaper is simply to put more water in it. Measuring the specific gravity during fermentation will tell you how far along the process has gone, and it will tell you when you're done. As you clearly know, one of the bad raps Guiness gets is that it's too heavy. In fact, it's a low-gravity beer, and it's not high in calories.
As you could tell us, I'm sure, different beers are treated differently after fermentation. Many ales are ready to serve right away. Lagers are not. They have to be "lagered," which means "stored" until the yeast takes all the rough edges off the flavor. This is accomplished using chilled containers, and for a quality beer, it takes weeks. The less time a beer spends lagering, the worse it may taste. Lagering costs money, so it's a good place for a bad brewer to cut corners.
The yeast makes a big difference, too. White Labs and Wyeast--I am sure you are very familiar with their products--sell many, many varieties of yeast. Some have been cultured from yeast taken from well-regarded breweries. They do different things. There are ale yeasts and lager yeasts. There is champagne yeast. Some make beers taste like vanilla. Depending on the choice of yeast and fermentation schedule, you can get flavors like apple or banana. Some yeasts settle out. Some don't.
Hopping is a complicated business. A good beer will have hops added to it at least twice. The wort is boiled before fermentation, and this takes a long time. A couple of hours. You add some hops early in the boil and some hops late. You can add hops after the boil, too. Some hops are added for bitterness, some for flavor, and some for aroma. If you go to Dan Listermann's site, assuming it's still up, or Morebeer.com or one of the other brewing sites, you'll see that there are dozens of different hops, and you have to know how every hop tastes. When I design a beer, I know I can choose from things like Saaz, Centennial, and Amarillo hops. Some taste like lemons. Some taste like pepper or grapefruit. My best lager uses a combination of Crystal and Nugget hops. I'm sure you are familiar with them.
Cheap beers use very little hops, so they have almost no character, and they lack bitterness to balance the sweet, soapy taste that comes from the cheap grain. According to the Wall Street Journal, between 1950 and 2004, typical American beers declined in IBU from somewhere around 20 to somewhere near 10. For the others, I will not that "IBU" is a measure of bitterness. A good IPA may run around 50 IBU. A quick check reveals that Dogfish Head 120 Minute IPA comes in at 120. I don't know where a real pilsner like Urquell fits in the scheme, but it's way higher than crap like Bud and Coors, which have hop levels that are barely perceptible. In addition to lacking flavor and bitterness, Bud has almost no aroma, except for the sour apple smell that comes from the yeast. There is no reason to avoid hopping a pilsner. Steinlager is known for its bitterness, and it's a wonderful beer.
When the folks who make bad beer choose to use rice, corn, or cheap barley, they are not trying to make good beer. That's the last thing on their minds. They're just trying to make money. No one at Anheuser-Busch sat up all night trying to figure out the right balance of rice and barley. They looked at prices. They didn't try dozens of different hop schedules to see which one was best. They used whatever was available, in the smallest (cheapest) amounts possible. They ended up with a product that couldn't legally be sold in Germany as "beer," due to the reinheitsgebot or purity law. Brewers don't even consider corn and rice "grain" for brewing purposes. We call things like that "adjuncts," and it's pretty clear why.
In the many online brewing forums, you probably won't find any respected brewers asking how much rice or corn to put in their beer in the hope of equaling Bud's quality. Bud is what they started brewing to get away from. I have designed all sorts of beers. Stouts. Wheat beers. Amber lagers. Lagers the color of honey. Ales. A nice tripel. They all came out great because I did what brewers are supposed to do. I designed with a flavor, not a price point, in mind. I didn't use the cheapest junk available and then try to compensate with commercials featuring animated frogs and women in bikinis. I think most knowledgeable beer drinkers would see things my way. After all, they financed the microbrew revolution, and there had to be a reason.
I haven't brewed in a while, and the ethanol farce has jacked up the cost of grain, but when I did brew, the cost in materials was somewhere near 40 cents per 12-ounce serving. I paid boutique prices for tiny quantities. I feel certain that when Miller orders ten thousand tons of grain, they get a much better deal, so even after paying overhead, it's safe to say that they can make decent beer profitably without continuing to cheap out at every conceivable opportunity.
If, in light of all that, you still say BudMilCoors is real beer, well, you're entitled to your opinion, and maybe you will want to go into your own ideas and talk about the beers you've designed. But maybe you can see why I disagree, and why "bulls___" is not really a fair word to use to describe my take.
:bow
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Here's an interesting beer review site that can provide some ideas about what beers to look for. I took the liberty of having the link take you to the Budweiser page because I enjoyed its humor.
http://www.fearlesscritic.com/beer/19/budweiser
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:bow
I will take that, even if it's sarcasm. I am not proud.
:BEER:
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If, in light of all that, you still say BudMilCoors is real beer, well, you're entitled to your opinion, and maybe you will want to go into your own ideas and talk about the beers you've designed. But maybe you can see why I disagree, and why "bulls___" is not really a fair word to use to describe my take.
I'm sorry, it seems that somewhere along the way you've mistaken my objections as some impugnation of your knowledge or abilities with beer, it is not. I assumed it to be as thorough as a glance at your last post would suggest.
You also seem to have drawn a conclusion that I am in some way praising the mass marketed beers (I was going to say American, but since you find similar products all over the world from Becks to Tsing-Tao, or even Peroni it seems silly to limit it), again, I am not.
Or perhaps you are thinking that I am objecting to your likes/dislikes, and nothing could be further from the truth. Preferences are a personal matter and I generally try (admittedly I've often failed, but I do generally TRY) not to judge people based solely on their preferences (though it sure it tempting the more one strays from seeming sanity, but that is a matter for another discussion).
To be crystal clear, my objections have only been two fold:
1. Your claims that the mass marketed stuff that so many enjoy is not "beer" or worse "real" beer (see objection #2). The reinheitsgebot is fine and I too generally take it as a potential measure of a QUALITY beer, one more likely to meet my PREFERENCES. But to say that the mass market stuff ISN'T beer at all based on it, is kinda silly. Everyone knows a McDonald's Hamburger is far from the pinnacle of the burger art, but it is in fact still a hamburger even if the quality of the ingredients and the lack of spicing makes it far from what the connoisseur would chose. And yes, though rice and corn sugars are NOT traditional ingredients, nor likely to make the best quality products, they can and are used with some effectiveness. We could argue that fruits or gourds aren't "traditional" ingredients either, but even if I don't care for Belgian Lambics or Pumpkin Ales etc, you must admit they may be quality products even with their straying from the strict purity standards of traditional "beer".
2. Your attitude. My MAIN objection and reason for getting into this silly war of words with you has been your flagrant attitude that those who enjoy or even PREFER those mass marketed products (ironically I don't consider myself one so I did not take this personally) are somehow not real men, or educated men, or whatever other BS rhetoric you were choosing. It's one thing to poke your friend in the ribs over a campfire, it's another to spew elitist crap over a matter of TASTE. Even if I share your basic lack of care for the product it's a complete other thing to, especially so casually, impugn every other reader of this board who doesn't share your (or even OUR) taste in the matter. This is no different from the other "hater" behavior we are constantly seeing in this online community (anti-Harley, anti-BMW, etc- is all = "I'm better than those people because they don't like what I like" or worse "because they DO like what you don't like".
Again, I'll restate my PREFERENCES for delicate, balanced beers, usually something with a rich malt character, a nice crisp hop finish, but NOT something with such hopping that it bites at the palate and lingers too long, nor something with too many other flavors, especially notes of citrus which I don't like in a beer. That doesn't make my choices better or worse, just different than yours and many others.
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I will strive to be a better Kev wannabe in the future.
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I will strive to be a better Kev wannabe in the future.
No, I think you got it down... ::) :-* ---> :BEER: <---- oh the irony :D
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I will take that, even if it's sarcasm. I am not proud.
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Sorry for not being clear,- no sarcasm intended.
Proud or not,- I admire your knowledge and approach to the world of beer :BEER:
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The purpose the Reinheitsgebot was not primarily to maintain the quality of beer. One of the main purposes of the Reinheitsgebot was to stop breweries from using wheat and rye, which were considered more valuable grains, so that the price of bread would not be driven up. The law stopped the production of many types of beer that had previously been enjoyed in Germany, but that used other grains and ingredients that were not allowed.
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American breweries didn't start out with the intention of making bland beer. They do that now, because we're so brainwashed, we won't drink good beer. In the beginning, it was all about the bottom line. Hops are expensive, and so is two-row barley. Rice and corn were comparatively cheap, for good reason. The greedheads at Anheuser-Busch and other companies realized that advertising, not flavor, drives beer buying in the US, so they took nearly everything except water and alcohol out of their disgusting products, knowing most of us would buy them anyway.
For most consumers, it's all about getting buzzed. They don't care at all about flavor. If they did, it would be impossible to sell things like Mickey's Wide Mouth or Colt 45. The macrobrew industry is all about pandering to clueless consumers who only think about price and cute commercials.
It's ignorant to call BudMilCoors a "style." That's like saying driving a car with one primer-colored door is a style. It lends legitimacy to a scam. No one in his right mind would try to brew this crap at home or in a micro-brewery, any more than a chef would try to make Wonder Bread or Pop Tarts. I made my own lawnmower beer once, as an experiment, but that's all it was, and it was a thousand times better than Bud.
i tend to agree. isn't this the point of the "beer thread" to show off what fancy beers we drink and to introduce others to our favorite beers. (theres one down here, i think its called blood and honey by revolver. its pretty good ) and yes coors light is a beer. but to call it a beer is like saying both a yugo and a ferrari are cars.
the economics of beer is interesting. beer is getting more expensive. due to the two major companies buying out everyone. but also, light beer. light beer is a joke. why would i pay the same amount of money for less beer. light beer is about 3.2 % while beer is 5 %, so your calories are about 100 for a bottle of light beer, 140 or so for beer beer. one would then probably, im guessing drink more light beers, cause they think they can since they are saving calories, or they think they should since they dont feel any sort of buzz. and they would have been better off just drinking a normal beer instead. but whatever. it is funny when you go to a place that has like 100 beers on tap and a guy will walk up and ask for a budmillercoors. surprisingly a guinness stout does not have more calories or higher alcohol than your average beer.
i prefer half guinness half cider myself. :BEER:
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i tend to agree. isn't this the point of the "beer thread" to show off what fancy beers we drink and to introduce others to our favorite beers. (theres one down here, i think its called blood and honey by revolver. its pretty good ) and yes coors light is a beer. but to call it a beer is like saying both a yugo and a ferrari are cars.
the economics of beer is interesting. beer is getting more expensive. due to the two major companies buying out everyone. but also, light beer. light beer is a joke. why would i pay the same amount of money for less beer. light beer is about 3.2 % while beer is 5 %, so your calories are about 100 for a bottle of light beer, 140 or so for beer beer. one would then probably, im guessing drink more light beers, cause they think they can since they are saving calories, or they think they should since they dont feel any sort of buzz. and they would have been better off just drinking a normal beer instead. but whatever. it is funny when you go to a place that has like 100 beers on tap and a guy will walk up and ask for a budmillercoors. surprisingly a guinness stout does not have more calories or higher alcohol than your average beer.
i prefer half guinness half cider myself. :BEER:
That's not necessarily accurate:
http://www.alcoholcontents.com/beer/
Look up "bud" for example, they have light versions that can be as high as 6%.
I also thought I remember reading an article regarding the metabolism rate differs with light beers and they can affect you more or quicker, I forget the details.
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note that i said "about", and perhaps i cited a bad source. the calories are right, however light beer is approx 4% alcohol.
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Well, if we're sharing excellent brews, rather than just posting a favorite, I'll put in Flying Dog's "Double Dog". That stuff really lights up my pleasure center. It was in Va Sean's long list, but might have been overlooked there. A bonus is Ralph Steadman's art on every bottle.
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i agree the steadman art is a bonus.
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note that i said "about", and perhaps i cited a bad source. the calories are right, however light beer is approx 4% alcohol.
and a lot are about 4.2, but ASSUMING THAT can be dangerous as some are not, for example Bud Light Platinum is 6%, which is the same as some malt liquors.
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The purpose the Reinheitsgebot was not primarily to maintain the quality of beer. One of the main purposes of the Reinheitsgebot was to stop breweries from using wheat and rye, which were considered more valuable grains, so that the price of bread would not be driven up. The law stopped the production of many types of beer that had previously been enjoyed in Germany, but that used other grains and ingredients that were not allowed.
You`re right,- Reinheitsgebot was introduced to protect the price of bread ,and has never guaranteed a high quality beer.
I second this guys experience with West and East German beer (Pils) , though I don`t think that the Reinheitsgebot was reintroduced in the East since the EU banned in 1987 ? :
I can well remember being in the DDR at the time when West German beer first became available. What surprised me were how much worse the imported beers were than the supposedly inferior DDR counterparts. I couldn't understand how anyone could prefer these expensive, tasteless beers over their own local, flavourful brews. Well, as time has shown, they didn't. Even before the reintroduction of the Reinheitsgebot in the East, people had gone back to their old favourites. Anyone who compared the washing-up water blandness of Eschwege Pils with the wonderful Mühlhausener Pilsator would know why: the DDR beer simply tasted better.
http://www.europeanbeerguide.net/reinheit.htm
I had a brother living in W Berlin for many years, and we went into East Berlin on transit visa a couple of times in the early `90th before the wall was entirely torn down, and before any western beer had arrived.
And we were surprised by the high quality of the tap pils that we were served in the cozy and relaxed local pubs, can`t remember the names of them,- but they were so much better than the "Reinheitsgebot" labeled pils in the west.
I don`t know much about brewing, but I do recognize a good beer when I`m having one.
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Wait, I'm learning something new about the Reinheitsgebot. You're basically saying that it is responsible for Germans inventing a style of beer with less flavor which evolved into mass market lawnmower beers. :D
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Favorite beer? It's like a favorite song, I just keep looking for it.
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And looking and looking . Grinning here .
This should stir the pot . Is Sake wine ?
Dusty
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How about Soju?
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Soju
Soju jinro gfdl.jpg
Bottle of Chamisul soju with a branded glass.
Korean name
Hangul
소주
Hanja
燒酒
Revised Romanization
Soju
McCune–Reischauer
Soju
Soju (Hangul 소주; Hanja 燒酒) is a distilled beverage native to Korea. Jinro and Lotte soju are the first and third top selling alcohol brands in the world.[1] It is usually consumed neat.
Most brands of soju are made in South Korea. It is traditionally made from rice, wheat, barley, but modern producers of soju use supplements or even replace rice with other starches, such as potatoes, sweet potatoes, or tapioca.
Soju is clear and colorless. Its alcohol content varies from about 16.7%, to about 45% alcohol by volume (ABV) for traditional Andong soju,[2] with 20% ABV being most common. However, by using freeze distillation, ABV can be increased to desired percentage. There are two different ways to produce Soju; the Classic way of distilled Soju that uses the single distillation method and the modern way of diluted Soju that uses the chain distillation method.[3] Distilled Soju usually has a higher ABV of 30~35% than diluted Soju with ABV of 21~30%. As distilled Soju tends to have a higher ABV, it has stronger smell than diluted Soju. It is widely consumed, in part, because of its relatively low price in Korea. A typical 375mL bottle of soju costs the consumer 1,000 to 3,000 South Korean Won in South Korea (roughly $1 to $3 Canada Dollars). In Canada, it costs substantially more – $5.50 ~ $9.25 (depends on brand) [4] as tariff and profitability add onto its original cost price.[3] Now Soju is exporting to 80 countries and in top market share of diluted alcohol market. Statistically
All I know about Soju ;D
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and a lot are about 4.2, but ASSUMING THAT can be dangerous as some are not, for example Bud Light Platinum is 6%, which is the same as some malt liquors.
its hardly assuming. 95% of light beers fall under 4%. the fact that you found one beer with higher alcohol content proves very little. except that you like to argue with people. :wife: :beat_horse ~; :BEER: ::( **C ::)
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its hardly assuming. 95% of light beers fall under 4%. the fact that you found one beer with higher alcohol content proves very little. except that you like to argue with people. :wife: :beat_horse ~; :BEER: ::( **C ::)
MOST of the other light beers I checked were 4.2% and not "below 4%".
Ironically 4.something also describes a lot of other beers including Pilsner Urquell and Guinness.
As for assuming you're missing the point. If you're trying to educate someone with generalizations leaving out the exceptions is line deliberately misleading them. "I can drink more of these Platinum Light beers cause my buddy told me all light beers have less alcohol".
Doesn't seem hard to be careful with generalizations and assumptions that's all.
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MOST of the other light beers I checked were 4.2% and not "below 4%".
Ironically 4.something also describes a lot of other beers including Pilsner Urquell and Guinness.
As for assuming you're missing the point. If you're trying to educate someone with generalizations leaving out the exceptions is line deliberately misleading them. "I can drink more of these Platinum Light beers cause my buddy told me all light beers have less alcohol".
Doesn't seem hard to be careful with generalizations and assumptions that's all.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/all-we-can-eat/post/bud-light-platinum-has-got-the-blues/2012/02/03/gIQAH0x1mQ_blog.html
and youre making my point for me. the line between light beer and beer beer is almost non existant, so it is a mere marketing ploy.
and check out beer advocate. how many light beers or for that matter mass marketed american beers are in the top 100 ?
ohh. and i found my original error. i confused by weight with by volume. oops. rookie mistake.
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Again, I'm not defending light beer.
I'm not claiming that most mass marketed products AREN'T sold largely on gimmick and perception.
Hell, some of the worst commercials are for those beers (light or not). Not talking about quality or flavor but of how one is the "coldest" (wtf is that supposed to mean), or one has a can that turns blue, or one that swirls the beer through the neck.
Yeah, ridiculous crap designed to mask an otherwise un-noteworthy product.
I wasn't arguing against any of that.
I was just pointing out it's not safe to assume lower alcohol content. That's all...
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Fun fact: The specific gravity of ethyl alcohol is about 0.79. This means that a beer with 4% alcohol by weight is about 5% alcohol by volume. This is a source of confusion. West Virginia used to limit beer to 3.2% by weight. 3.2 / 0.79 = 4.05% by volume. So the "3.2 beer" wasn't as weak as was assumed. Always look to see whether the content is by weight or by volume.
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Good facts...data in my link claims to be % by volume.
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It's -14 and Friday, after work in the garage we will have culture and try some adult soda's, my preference is Big Sky Moose Drool :BEER:
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Dusty, I was curious about the 3.2, so I checked Wikipedia:
Any beverage containing more than 3.2% alcohol by weight or 4% alcohol by volume, that is, most liquors, wines, and typical beer, may only be sold in licensed liquor stores at room temperature.
So it's really 4% if you're talking about by volume, which is how most beers are labeled. The alcohol laws there seem to be aimed at encouraging you to drink at home, don't they?
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Oklahoma has the 3.2 law for beer sold cold , makes no sense to me , as liquor stores sell "strong" beer , just not refrigerated . Funny to hear the uneducated say they are going to Arkansas to buy supposed 6.4 strong beer , not knowing how this all works . Similar to the 87 vs 91 octane argument . Sigh .
Dusty
They're not uneducated. Just impatient. Who wants to buy hot beer and wait for it to cool off at home when you can drive to the border, buy a 12-pack and drink it in the car on the way back to the house?!?!?!
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Well it would seem that way , but in effect in promotes the sale of cheap swill in convenience stores .
Dusty
It's not unusual for a seemingly simple law to have a lot of unexpected side effects. The prohibition itself was a good example.
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It's not unusual for a seemingly simple law to have a lot of unexpected side effects. The prohibition itself was a good example.
Yeah, my great-grand pappy made money hauling shine by wagon from Yell County into The Nations back in the day. Spent a little time in McAlester as a result. Didn't break him, though.
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The big beer weather has finally arrived, (freakin cold), Old Ales, Barleywines and Imperial Stouts are coming out of hiding where they have been resting for a year or 4 in the big plastic foot locker in my closet. Best big beer this holiday season has been Old Knucklehead Barleywine from Bridgeport in Portland. Aged in bourbon barrels and has a little fruit flavor to go along with all the rest. Highly recommend it. ;-T :BEER:
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When I lived in Oklahomie we kept rock salt with the cooler, you can cool off a 12 pack of 5% in about 35-40 miles over 2 lane oil surface highways ;D
They're not uneducated. Just impatient. Who wants to buy hot beer and wait for it to cool off at home when you can drive to the border, buy a 12-pack and drink it in the car on the way back to the house?!?!?!
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FYI ....... Dry beer system for backpacking and light camping. ???
Mix with purified water and shake like crazy!
http://www.today.com/food/beer-concentrate-lets-you-take-brews-outdoor-adventure-2D11741579
Suppose to taste pretty good. :BEER:
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Really interesting, but I think I'd just take a pint of Bourbon in my backpack instead.
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All this beer talk made me go and buy some American beer. Not that many to choose from here, but I came home with these two from Samuel Adams in Boston:
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A quality ale with a pleasing rich malt flavor, but a little too sweet, and not enough hops for my taste. But quality it is, and much better than the weak English "Newcastle Brown Ale" that has grown so big and popular,- ask you me.
My favorite ale is still the English "Ruddles County".
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The 6% IPA, however, was a nice experience that I could easily add to my favorites with its freshness and very distinct and strong hoppy character of which the label says :
This bold IPA features 5 varieties of hops, including Mosaic hops from the Pacific Northwest. These add a burst of citrus notes to the distinctive layers of German, English, and other American hops, all from growing regions near the "hop belt" of the 48th latitude. Cheers !
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Kidneb, that latitude 48 certainly is a good one. I just started the mash for my annual batch of stout, to be ready for St. Patrick's Day.
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anything by Busheys on the Isle of Man
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I'm sorry, it seems that somewhere along the way you've mistaken my objections as some impugnation of your knowledge or abilities with beer, it is not. I assumed it to be as thorough as a glance at your last post would suggest.
You also seem to have drawn a conclusion that I am in some way praising the mass marketed beers (I was going to say American, but since you find similar products all over the world from Becks to Tsing-Tao, or even Peroni it seems silly to limit it), again, I am not.
Or perhaps you are thinking that I am objecting to your likes/dislikes, and nothing could be further from the truth. Preferences are a personal matter and I generally try (admittedly I've often failed, but I do generally TRY) not to judge people based solely on their preferences (though it sure it tempting the more one strays from seeming sanity, but that is a matter for another discussion).
To be crystal clear, my objections have only been two fold:
1. Your claims that the mass marketed stuff that so many enjoy is not "beer" or worse "real" beer (see objection #2). The reinheitsgebot is fine and I too generally take it as a potential measure of a QUALITY beer, one more likely to meet my PREFERENCES. But to say that the mass market stuff ISN'T beer at all based on it, is kinda silly. Everyone knows a McDonald's Hamburger is far from the pinnacle of the burger art, but it is in fact still a hamburger even if the quality of the ingredients and the lack of spicing makes it far from what the connoisseur would chose. And yes, though rice and corn sugars are NOT traditional ingredients, nor likely to make the best quality products, they can and are used with some effectiveness. We could argue that fruits or gourds aren't "traditional" ingredients either, but even if I don't care for Belgian Lambics or Pumpkin Ales etc, you must admit they may be quality products even with their straying from the strict purity standards of traditional "beer".
2. Your attitude. My MAIN objection and reason for getting into this silly war of words with you has been your flagrant attitude that those who enjoy or even PREFER those mass marketed products (ironically I don't consider myself one so I did not take this personally) are somehow not real men, or educated men, or whatever other BS rhetoric you were choosing. It's one thing to poke your friend in the ribs over a campfire, it's another to spew elitist crap over a matter of TASTE. Even if I share your basic lack of care for the product it's a complete other thing to, especially so casually, impugn every other reader of this board who doesn't share your (or even OUR) taste in the matter. This is no different from the other "hater" behavior we are constantly seeing in this online community (anti-Harley, anti-BMW, etc- is all = "I'm better than those people because they don't like what I like" or worse "because they DO like what you don't like".
Again, I'll restate my PREFERENCES for delicate, balanced beers, usually something with a rich malt character, a nice crisp hop finish, but NOT something with such hopping that it bites at the palate and lingers too long, nor something with too many other flavors, especially notes of citrus which I don't like in a beer. That doesn't make my choices better or worse, just different than yours and many others.
Kev, to be clear, pumpkin and the fruits in lambics are not a good comparison. These are not substitutes, cheap or otherwise, for malts.. Rice and corn ARE substitutes for malts (primary fermentation components)not additional additives to ENHANCE, or augment, flavor. Purity law notwithstanding, I personally don't consider anything without hops and 100% barley malt, beer. I get your Mcdonalds analogy, but there are many who don't want that meat glue and textured additives to be called "meat." Whether it is or not is debatable but it is just some cheap alternative to the "real thing," and for some folks it works. You can stuff your face or get drunk for a little money. This is not my philosophy but it is that of a good many Americans. So if the regulators allow bud/coors/miller to be called beer, fine, as long as they say so it has to be undisputable fact.
As to mass market beer being Pilsner only, perhaps. Pre prohibition mass produced beer in the US was more of an Ale style which didn't persist after prohibition ended. I agree at that point US brewers emulated the Pilsner style but I think lagers made their way in (I know they're all lagered in terms of fermentation).. Again it's not like they used any identifiable Pilsner malts one way or another. Whatever it is I'm sure it's indistinguishable from its original intent. But if people like it ces't la vie.
In terms of street cred. Be careful. Allot of us brewed as well and I've had offers to get involved with various investors (bar/micro breweries, beer sellers) myself but chose not to. I would hesitate to use that as a stamp of authority..
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Understand all of your points and agree with many.
As for a stamp of authority, I was NOT using it as an example to claim any expertise. I was simply mentioning it to refute the unkind and unwarranted accusation of ignorance (and make the accuser rightly look a tad foolish for it).
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Understand all of your points and agree with many.
As for a stamp of authority, I was NOT using it as an example to claim any expertise. I was simply mentioning it to refute the unkind and unwarranted accusation of ignorance (and make the accuser rightly look a tad foolish for it).
Gotcha...
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What's a McDonalds ?
Dusty
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Scientists haven't determined what it is yet ;D
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Kidneb, that latitude 48 certainly is a good one. I just started the mash for my annual batch of stout, to be ready for St. Patrick's Day.
Yeah- interesting , looks like the northern part of the Gobi desert would be a fine place for growing hops ;D
Good luck with your annual stout you lucky brewer ! And CIA :BEER:
(Cheers In Advance that is)
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Stopped at Two Stones Pub for lunch with Jenn....currently enjoying a Stone Smoked Porter. :)
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FYI ....... Dry beer system for backpacking and light camping. ???
Mix with purified water and shake like crazy!
http://www.today.com/food/beer-concentrate-lets-you-take-brews-outdoor-adventure-2D11741579
Suppose to taste pretty good. :BEER:
"...bit of a homebrew taste..." Ouch thats a low blow.
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Yeah, it seems like most people either have tried home brewing or know someone who did. Beginners buying a starter kit of equipment and ingredients are not likely to produce world class beers on the first few tries. So after a few tries, the work involved is more than it's worth for a couple cases of mediocre beer and they give up the hobby, but not before several friends tasted the so-so beer. Now the brewer and his friends can truthfully say they tasted home brew and it wasn't very good.
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Yeah, it seems like most people either have tried home brewing or know someone who did. Beginners buying a starter kit of equipment and ingredients are not likely to produce world class beers on the first few tries. So after a few tries, the work involved is more than it's worth for a couple cases of mediocre beer and they give up the hobby, but not before several friends tasted the so-so beer. Now the brewer and his friends can truthfully say they tasted home brew and it wasn't very good.
True. *Good* home brew is every bit as good as any you can buy..
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I hope the stout turns out to be the good type of home brew you mentioned. It's fermenting now, and will be in the mid 7% alcohol range. That should qualify it to be "Imperial Stout".
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I homebrew and love it. My firdt few batches were so so but now I have requests for my next brews
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You'll always have that, since very few beer drinkers will turn down free beer. :D
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You'll always have that, since very few beer drinkers will turn down free beer. :D
yeah well they're beer snobs like myself and arent afraid to tell me it sucks. Lol
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While they're sucking it down, I assume. :D
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While they're sucking it down, I assume. :D
:'( lol! not always. I'll admit never throwing a batch away but I definitely had a few that were bad early on. They were drinkable (barely) but I have gotten better!:D
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Ratebeer list of 2014. Ratebeer = Us site
Westvleteren did it again
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/top-50/
Strong emphasis in this list on beers with distinctive taste though. (A LOT of stouts !)
I've been told this is typical for taste in the Us. True or not?
Most of us Belgians more like balanced beers with not too explicite taste (not too stouty, not too hoppy, not too....)
Which does not mean that Westvleteren is not a balanced beer. Though not my personal favorite, a well deserved winner.
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Glad to see this thread is still alive after almost 8 years!
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Living in San Diego, I'm swarmed by local brewerys - sixty and counting, or thereabouts.
Port Brewing Mongo is my current IPA of choice.
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Living in San Diego, I'm swarmed by local brewerys - sixty and counting, or thereabouts.
Port Brewing Mongo is my current IPA of choice.
Stone Brewing is out your way right? They make some great beers.
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Kidneb, that latitude 48 certainly is a good one. I just started the mash for my annual batch of stout, to be ready for St. Patrick's Day.
Hope your stout came out successfully ! Have a nice St. Patrick`s Day anyway :BEER:
As you can see here, St.Patrick`s day does`t drift past in complete unawareness here in Denmark either ,- at least not in Copenhagen;
http://stpatricksdayparade.dk/celebrate-st-patricks-day-in-copenhagen-2013/
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Yes, thank you, it came out great. I tapped the keg a few days ago, and it will be enjoyed tomorrow. I used a little peated malt this year, and it has a very pleasant smoky flavor on top of all the usual stout flavors. It's on the "Imperial Stout" side, with about 7% alcohol.
The celebration in Copenhagen looks like a lot of fun.
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" Stone Brewing is out your way right? They make some great beers."
I could walk there in twenty minutes - If I could get in the door and get a seat...definitely have to go in off-peak time. They're so popular that a local can't fight his way through the crowds to get a beer :BEER:
Today my favorite is the Seven Day IPA I brewed last weekend. Sweet, yeasty, seven percent alcohol and under a buck a glass my cost ( $27 to make five gallons ).
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With some of the grain prices I get through a local club, I often brew a 15.5 gallon keg for that price!
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great thread folks.....currently spending time in san diego and have some friends and family here tonight to try the following heavy handed hopped beers.....two from hangar 24, a columbus and another in the other room. two from knee deep, simtra and hoptologist, one from iron fire called a 51/50. if you don't like a highly hopped beer these will hold no interest but if you do, certainly the simtra is worth the effort to find it. high (131 ibu) and while they say anything in the high 90s and up is indiscernible i'm thinking the research boys may want to reconsider......thi s is some kind of west coast driver. as for norm zones' mongo.....genuinely outstanding ipa and rightly named, karras would've loved it and yes, two bottles and you too can drop a horse with a right hook. now back to the beers.......
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Contact me if you want to meet for a ride or a beer while you're here...
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zone, thank you for the offer. won't be able to take you up on it this year have to head back to rhode island.....the youngest daughter just showed up with mother earth's kismet and manzanita's chaotic double.......have to ask you bro, how the hell does anyone go to work out here????? you ever in rhody, drop a line....we can't match your depth in beers but we have some serious beer worth downing.......again thanks....
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zone, thank you for the offer. won't be able to take you up on it this year have to head back to rhode island.....the youngest daughter just showed up with mother earth's kismet and manzanita's chaotic double.......have to ask you bro, how the hell does anyone go to work out here????? you ever in rhody, drop a line....we can't match your depth in beers but we have some serious beer worth downing.......again thanks....
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this stuff is AWESOME but not easy to find in every Off-License.
https://www.stoertebeker.com/brauhandwerk/brauspezialitaten?id=Atlantik-Ale
So Pilsner Urquell will do at a push.
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this stuff is AWESOME but not easy to find in every Off-License.
https://www.stoertebeker.com/brauhandwerk/brauspezialitaten?id=Atlantik-Ale
So Pilsner Urquell will do at a push.
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Urquell,- not the cheapest, but still the best Pilsner around in this neck of the woods.
There are other outstanding czech pilsners of course,- like Gambrinus for instance , but not available here.
But we are not limited to Pilsner drinking ,are we.
Had this IPA for the first time the other day,- very good indeed!! ;-T
Exploring the IPA universe is exiting and full of pleasant experiences along the way ! :BEER:
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+1
Urquell,- not the cheapest, but still the best Pilsner around in this neck of the woods.
There are other outstanding czech pilsners of course,- like Gambrinus for instance , but not available here.
But we are not limited to Pilsner drinking ,are we.
Had this IPA for the first time the other day,- very good indeed!! ;-T
Exploring the IPA universe is exiting and full of pleasant experiences along the way ! :BEER:
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You picked a good one to start with. ;-T As far as quality, true to style, and consistency.. Sierra Nevada doesn't make a bad beer. I don't know about availability in yurp, but the availability of IPAs in the states is staggering. You have a big job ahead of you. ;D :BEER:
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Picking up the old post.....
2 new FAVORITES.....
In the Austin, Tx., Circle Brewing, Blur. Dam, that's one fine drink, sir.
Closer to home, Hanger 24, Orange Wheat out of Redlands, Ca. My beer of choice.
kjf
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PBR lol actually I like Serria Nevada and some more obscure variety's. I think it's funny there is a no drunk driving debate followed by a what is your favorite beer list at the top of the forum today.
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this stuff is AWESOME but not easy to find in every Off-License.
https://www.stoertebeker.com/brauhandwerk/brauspezialitaten?id=Atlantik-Ale
So Pilsner Urquell will do at a push.
Pilsner Urquell or Stella
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Along my travels through the Midwest this summer, hosts have been plying me with Potosi beer. Never heard of it before, but I must say, it is pretty good. Fascinating history on their web page, and now that I see they have factory tours, a brewpub, and they house the National Beer Museum, I am sorry that I did not plan a stop on my way East from Grinnell.
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Along my travels through the Midwest this summer, hosts have been plying me with Potosi beer. Never heard of it before, but I must say, it is pretty good. Fascinating history on their web page, and now that I see they have factory tours, a brewpub, and they house the National Beer Museum, I am sorry that I did not plan a stop on my way East from Grinnell.
It was one of the destinations I had planned until we had to run down to Jimmys!! Nice riding area and damn good beer. Next trip, we hit Potosi, and New Glarus!!
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Geeze, 16 pages of Guzzi owners many times boasting about the - sometimes dollars and ounce - hootch that they consume. These, some of the same fellas who whine when they don't get three or more oil change/valve adjustments outa a couple dollars worth of gasket and will strap anything to the side of a bike - conventions and shame be damned - to save a few sheckles over the cost of proper bags.~;
Of course, the OP should have been qualified with:
"Who's buyin' the round?"
Favorite beer? The free one that doesn't give me a headache.
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The more money I save on motorcycle crap, the more money I have to spend on good beer. Had a Fremont Brewing "The Brother" imperial IPA on draft Monday night. They charge you for that stuff - the pint was a dollar more than the usual - but it's practically a religious experience. Well, as I have never had any religious experiences, I can't honestly say that a draft pint of The Brother might not be better than a religious experience. I don't think it would be wise to ride very soon afterwards, either.
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I like them all, all time favourite would be Sapporo, a Japanese style beer.
Tried a beer called Amber-Bock when in the US back in the 90's, had a good kick to it :BEER:
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Any Belgian beer made by monks is at the top of the list. Yuengling is"Americas oldest breweries" (Pitts., Penn.), and their lager is quite tastey. For cheap stuff, it gets two thumbs up! Yuengling is not distributed everywhere, so I have friends that make their way to Penn. and pick me up some now and again. :P
"Yuengling"? Never heard of it, honestly.
However, if you're buying, I'll drink to your health and continued prosperity.
Same goes for all of you.
Lateness.
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Heavy Seas Brewing Loose Cannon IPA :BEER: ;-T ;D
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Peroni and Stella
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We have a local orchard that produces some fine ciders. My favorite lately is Windy Hill Pomegranate.
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Shared a few of those with a now gone friend , not bad , and the thought always brings a smile .
Dusty
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Beer I drink while in Southern HQ Command: (http://i58.tinypic.com/28klcf5.jpg)
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<SHRUG> You really just rent the stuff anyway ;D
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Stella Artois and it's like $23 a case at Costco, less than $1 per bottle.
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Stella Artois and it's like $23 a case at Costco, less than $1 per bottle.
In PA it's more like about $40/case. :-\
Wonder how it will be in NJ? ???
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Peroni and Stella
Fixeded it fer ya. :BEER:
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why does everyone like stella? i mean its ok. but i wouldnt say its the best beer ive ever had.
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STELLLLLLAAAAA !
Dusty
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why does everyone like stella? i mean its ok. but i wouldnt say its the best beer ive ever had.
It's a typical imported mass produced pilsner style lager.
A tad more flavor and hop character than the American counterparts, and I enjoy it on the same level as a dozen others, but yeah, it's far from the "Best" I've ever had...
...then again the Pilsner is one of my favorite styles and I worship frequently at the churches of Urquell and Weihenstephaner and the like so I might be expected to be a bit critical.
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My new favorite: Wheelbarrel Red Ale from Maine. A hoppy 7% red ale. Nectar of heaven...
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How about "Heddy Topper". Out of Vermont? Absolutely my favorite, but at $79.00 a case not very practical. And forget finding it outside of Vermont!
CW
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chimay, blue or gold. in SF theres a liquor store owner in the mission who sells it to the public just above cost. I got my roommates hooked. Brown bagged the bottles, headed to the "BAR" bar for two dollar turkey 101 shots off mission and 22nd. In chinatown I went to the 'uncle's bar' for a cheap (but refreshing) thai beer and a shot of cobra whisky, a real thai boiler maker, for $4.
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How about "Heddy Topper". Out of Vermont? Absolutely my favorite, but at $79.00 a case not very practical. And forget finding it outside of Vermont!
CW
All that money and it comes in cans?!?! Got great reviews though.
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I like them all, all time favourite would be Sapporo, a Japanese style beer.
Tried a beer called Amber-Bock when in the US back in the 90's, had a good kick to it :BEER:
Oh you poor soul. If you are hot and thirsty, water would be a better choice than those two.
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Yeah I know Kent, I'm still a cheap drunk too :D
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Left Hand Brewing Milk Stout Nitro
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I don't usually go for fruit beer but I had a Fruili Strawberry Wit that was most excellent. Reminded me of my high school days, in a good way.
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New one to ad to the list
DuClaw's Sweet Baby Jesus (Chocolate Peanut Butter Porter).
http://www.duclaw.com/beers.aspx
Just found it recently at a MD liquor store close to the marina where we keep our boat.
Not an all night beer for sure, but a decent treat.
I recently tried the Horney Goat Chocolate Peanut Butter Porter. If you can find it in Jersey give it a try.
http://www.hornygoatbrewing.com/wordpress/
I'm on my second case.
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why does everyone like stella? i mean its ok. but i wouldnt say its the best beer ive ever had.
Because it is very smartly promoted that way. I am old enough to remember Stella as one of the dozens and dozens of lagers we had. Brewed by Stella Artois in Leuven. Very common lager, not many Belgians were fond of it. Until (pre-Inbev) some clever blue eyed marketing boy had the brilliant idea of positioning it as a 'better' brand, first in France, where it costed an arm and a leg (no Belgian in his right mind would pay this). Gradually over the rest of the world especially since the take over of Inbev. Since then it has become 'the' premium lager. Don't ask me why. 21st century where everything has to be 'fahionable' I guess. Still thinks it's cat piss if you ask me. I'll show you about 20 better lagers in Belgium and a few 100 better Belgian beers anyway. Or perhaps make that thousand.....
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Frans , DUDE , we are on the same page re Stella . Same thing happened here with a Mexican brand named Corona. My Mexican friends refer to it as sewer water , but with some clever marketing is has become the darling of the yuppie crowd . Dog , it awful stuff , kinda tastes like most American sorta beer with some aspirin ground up into it to mask its basic nastiness .
Dusty
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I've just recently discovered a subclass of beers they're calling Session Beers with lower alcohol content - to allow a longer drinking session I guess.
All Day IPA is quite good - tastes like good IPA with, I think, 4.7% EtOH.
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I have recently had some beers from Southern Tier Brewing. They are very good. A lot of specialty once in 22oz. bottles. Their 2XMAS is am OMG beer. The aroma first hits you and then it gets better.
By the way Strong Beer Fest in Phoenix on February 14,2015 is coming up. Which is part of Arizona Beer Week. Tickets went on sale. Last year over 100 brewers represented and about 300 beers. The event sold out. It was fun. I will be there this year and if any of you Arizona boys would like to toast to things Italian. let me know. It would be great to meet you.
Willie
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Steinlarger Green Label
Heineken
... but... rarely drink at all these days.
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Loose Cannon IPA3 By Clipper City Brewing, Baltimore Md.
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Guess we better just keep on dancing
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till
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Wow this thread is a classic!
Currently I'm drinking Red Oak Lager. When this thread started it wasn't available in bottles but now they have limited distribution in NC/SC. I've got a German neighbor and I have to keep it stocked for him.
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Not a huge beer drinker. Not anymore at least. But have recently tried some beer from Brooklyn Brewery at a restaurant and was really impressed. Still impressed, at least comparing to what i've been buying before at the pharmacies and bodegas.
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Frans , DUDE , we are on the same page re Stella . Same thing happened here with a Mexican brand named Corona. My Mexican friends refer to it as sewer water , but with some clever marketing is has become the darling of the yuppie crowd . Dog , it awful stuff , kinda tastes like most American sorta beer with some aspirin ground up into it to mask its basic nastiness .
Dusty
Couldn't agree more about Corona. A few years ago before it became "marketed", we were paying 25 cents American for it.
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Not a huge beer drinker. Not anymore at least. But have recently tried some beer from Brooklyn Brewery at a restaurant and was really impressed. Still impressed, at least comparing to what i've been buying before at the pharmacies and bodegas.
I read the book that the owner of that brewery wrote about how it got started. It was a good story. I've had Brooklyn Lager and it may have been the best lager I've ever tasted.
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I recently tried the Horney Goat Chocolate Peanut Butter Porter. If you can find it in Jersey give it a try.
http://www.hornygoatbrewing.com/wordpress/
I'm on my second case.
Thanks for the rec, I'll keep my eye out!
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BTW, yeah, Brooklyn brewery has some nice stuff...
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Just last week I tried for the first time some Old Speckled Hen. http://www.oldspeckledhen.co.uk/
It's incredibly smooth. Good stuff. :BEER:
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my favorite beer is FREE beer.
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At the brews and blues festival in Telluride Colorado they had something around 57 breweries and over 100 kinds of beer for "free". I tried some very good beers. Sorry I can't remember any of their names!
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This thread needs reviving.....
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Long ago, now gone, it was Kaier's.
Now it's Leffe Blonde.
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Mmmm, Leffe makes very good stuff.
I'll be heading for Leffe-land next week, with the Beer Study Group. :boozing:
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IPA's
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Consider this an open invite:
Just in case any local (or not so local) peeps are so inclined I wanted to let everyone know that we've planned the:
2nd ANNUAL MEDFORD BEERFEST (and BBQ)
2:00 pm till the wee hours - Saturday, October 24th
This year's theme:
Fall In a Can
Probably going to concentrate on Fest beers and Specialty Ales, with a number of Porters and Stouts.
I've been looking and starting to buy cases in the last month.
So far I've acquired a special order case of
Wells Sticky Toffee Pudding Ale
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I find it full bodied, rich, with subtle notes of toffee and a smooth after taste. It's got a rich nose and each sip leaves you thinking "holy crap, can this be THIS good".
and I just picked up a case of Forgotten Boardwalk Brewing Co.'s Funnel Cake Ale
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Not as decadently rich as the Sticky Toffee Pudding, but still fuller bodied ale with both a hint of vanilla and a nice clean crisp hop finish.
I've got some thoughts on Fest Beers, but haven't made up my mind yet. There will likely be an obligatory Pumpkin something or other (even though I don't drink em). Porters and Stouts are still being investigated.
Stay tuned - more to come.
Food fare will likely consist of State Fair Chicken, Bubba Burgers, and probably Garlic Parm Buffallo Wings from Racks (local sports bar). Might add a tray of sandwiches from Primo's depending on the size of the crowd.
So don't be strangers... come, bring your friends.
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Like with about ALL subjects, a lot of snobbery here. My best friend from the Marine Corps drinks Miller (piss water, as some of the snobs say) and I drink some "different stuff". Of course, the beer snobs, who's taste buds are SO MUCH better than my buddy's, always have to make comments to him about his beer. He simply has a two word comment to them, the first word starts with "F" and the second word is "off". I love to see their sophisticated little, butt-hurt facial expressions to that - I about lose it every time.
I'm just still trying to figure out why everyone's choices and tastes are so much better than mine. But, I guess I'm just weird, in that I buy/drink/eat what I want, and not what others tell me is "cool" right now.
Anyways, guess that's why I don't like groups of anything (gun people, motorcycle people, beer people, whatever) - I'm just not into "groupthink". Try to use my own unsophisticated brain for myself.
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I like:
Stella Artois in the summer
Guiness in the winter
Pilsner Urquell
and various local micros
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I like:
Stella Artois in the summer
Guiness in the winter
Pilsner Urquell
and various local micros
Yeah, and I also like G&T in the Summer and Whisky in the Winter.
Dean
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More beer snobbery for those of us into groupthink and who use our overly sophisticated brains to bring others into the light.....
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Like with about ALL subjects, a lot of snobbery here. My best friend from the Marine Corps drinks Miller (piss water, as some of the snobs say) and I drink some "different stuff". Of course, the beer snobs, who's taste buds are SO MUCH better than my buddy's, always have to make comments to him about his beer. He simply has a two word comment to them, the first word starts with "F" and the second word is "off". I love to see their sophisticated little, butt-hurt facial expressions to that - I about lose it every time.
I'm just still trying to figure out why everyone's choices and tastes are so much better than mine. But, I guess I'm just weird, in that I buy/drink/eat what I want, and not what others tell me is "cool" right now.
Anyways, guess that's why I don't like groups of anything (gun people, motorcycle people, beer people, whatever) - I'm just not into "groupthink". Try to use my own unsophisticated brain for myself.
Snobbery sucks, but so does willful ignorance and unnecessary hostility.
What's the line from Animal House " Fat, Drunk, and Stupid is no way to go through life son." :boozing: :wink:
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Merged with VA Sean's "favorite beer" thread.
Mmmm... Beer...
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If you are in a hurry, you might try mixing your beverages!
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Merged with VA Sean's "favorite beer" thread.
Mmmm... Beer...
Wow, if you think that is hostility, I can tell you were never in the military and damn sure were never on a battlefield. Anyways, stating your favorite beer is one thing, but it's the whole nose-in-the-air "enlightened" thing that the one delta bravo above said that makes you a moron. I have a few favorites, too. But, I don't give a rat's ass if anyone else agrees or disagrees - they're just my favorites, according to my taste buds.
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Sorry Rocker59, that was meant for kev m. The anti-hostility guy.
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Ellie's Brown Ale - Avery Brewing Company. Not easy to find, but really smooth ale.
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Sorry Rocker59, that was meant for kev m. The anti-hostility guy.
Don't forget I'm also anti Douchery and anti stupidity too. :wink: :kiss:
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More beer snobbery for the un-enlightened, I felt especially smug after drinking this one.....
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Peroni is a great beer. After riding a Guzzi it's time for an Italian favorite. Can't think of a better import.
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Moretti is better.
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Pilsner Urqell. :thumb:
I'm not into tutti frutti.
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Pilsner Urqell. :thumb:
There is a lot of good recipes on their web site.
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More beer snobbery for the un-enlightened, I felt especially smug after drinking this one.....
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Good old Sam Smiths, an independent brewery here in Blighty. Their pubs are the cheapest to drink in and the beers are excellent. They even have a fruit beer brewery near my home.
The owner is a bit eccentric to say the least and refuses to increase beer price for years. A pint of Sam Smiths bitter is about �1.40 in the pub, elsewhere at least double that.
http://www.samuelsmithsbrewery.co.uk/site/
A forum that has 28 pages dedicated to a beer topic is in the right place methinks.
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Pilsner Urqell. :thumb:
I'm not into tutti frutti.
Yep , best commercial beer available , and despite what some say , there is a HUGE difference between Pilsner Urquell and American Pilsners . A friend defines Pilsner Urquell as a beer that "fights back" :grin:
Dusty
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Saturday's the big day for our annual Beerfest.
Most of the selections have been made and procured:
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That's a tough one.
Any west coast IPA (Green Flash, Stone, Lagunitas, etc.). Those citra hops are amazing.
I do like Bell's offerings too (Two hearted & Hop Slam)
Old Rasputin Imperial Stout
Belly Love's Smoke 'em if you got 'em - interesting smoked Gratzer and the Flying Unicorn Crotch Kick (I admit this one is really because of the name... and 8.9% ABV)
Cuvee van de Keizer - Blauw (Belgian strong dark ale)
Palm special (Belgian pale ale)
Duchesse de bourgogne (Flanders red ale)
Parkway Brewing Co's Gose both Ways (Gose)
Sweetwater Brewing's Say you... say me... Saison Together
Westmalle Abbey Tripel by the Monks at Westmalle
Epic Brewing's Big Bad Baptist(Imperial Stout)
and for lawnmowing: Miller high life.
I could go on...
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Almost anything (especially their IPAs) made by Tree House Brewing. I still can't believe this stuff is made in my little old hometown. Arguably one of the best breweries in the US right now.
It turns out that H&B Rugged Saddlebags can each hold at least 16 16oz cans. Definitely worth a field trip if you're within riding/driving distance Thursday through Saturday.
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Saturday's the big day for our annual Beerfest.
Most of the selections have been made and procured:
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Sounding more and more like a trip to Joy-zee is in order..... :grin:
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No favorite, I can't drink beer for over a decade - stomach problems.
So I have to stick to cheap whisky, scotch or Grappa! otherwise known as Italian 'Shine
Due to my infirmities I must partake often with the proper free-pour measurement of "Mississippi's" start counting with one and not stopping before five
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This was the selection at our annual autumn BBQ a few weeks ago. The Sam Adams was a sampler case and we had a case of everything else except the Hacker-Pschorr Oktoberfest, had three cases of that.
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Sounding more and more like a trip to Joy-zee is in order..... :grin:
Jay is riding out Friday morning. We're gonna hook up and ride around Joisey for the day, then he's staying the weekend for the "fest".
You could always join him...
This was the selection at our annual autumn BBQ a few weeks ago. The Sam Adams was a sampler case and we had a case of everything else except the Hacker-Pschorr Oktoberfest, had three cases of that.
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Budweiser in the Soulard district of Saint Louis seems to have more zing - as in: hide the keys.
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Olde Mecklenburg Mecktoberfest is out now and is a really good pour.
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Due to my infirmities I must partake often with the proper free-pour measurement of "Mississippi's" start counting with one and not stopping before five
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Gotta love these! Came in the mail today, all postage paid! Fancier that what I'm used to , that's for sure. Many thanks Sign 216 :thumb:
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Gotta love these! Came in the mail today, all postage paid! Fancier that what I'm used to , that's for sure. Many thanks Sign 216 :thumb:
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No problem Dave. Thanks for the Maine hospitality. And...showing me the Griso temp control unit.
Joe
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Jay is riding out Friday morning. We're gonna hook up and ride around Joisey for the day, then he's staying the weekend for the "fest".
You could always join him...
If I wasn't on the schedule I'd be there with Jay. :sad:
I will definitely take a rain check..... :boozing:
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I will definitely take a rain check..... :boozing:
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Frank Smith's Ultra ;)
I've had some of that, not bad and cheap.
Dean
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Back from Leffe-land, they still know how to do it!
This from Café Leffe in Dinant.
Leffe is part of Anheuser-Busch Inbev, I believe. There were lots of other excellent beers available though!
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Back from Leffe-land, they still know how to do it!
This from Café Leffe in Dinant.
Leffe is part of Anheuser-Busch Inbev, I believe. There were lots of other excellent beers available though!
I really like the Leffe Brune but you can't get it here. Ingles in North Georgia has it but t you can't find it anywhere near Charlotte. Strange since it's an Inbev as you say.
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That reminds me, I don't think I ever posted a follow-up from Beerfest... here is what was left over:
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For grass cutting/weekday grilling it's old Latrobe- Rolling Rock.
For a good IPA hard to beat Bell's Two Hearted or Columbus' IPA.
Boulevard's Ginger-Lemon Radler is fantastic! My new favorite summer on a good patio people watching beer. Too bad it's a seasonal brew!
Bell's Oberon is a nice patio beer in the summer.
For the festive winter season Columbus Winter Warmer, hands down the best of the "Christmas Ales" out there, imo.
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My husband's all-time favorites are Grolsch and London Pride, but he's also fond of Leffe and Stella, and in a pinch he'll grab Corona.
I'm fond of any good hefeweizen or witbier, and when I'm feeling really fancy I'll pour some Lindemans Framboise into my Hoegaarden.
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That reminds me, I don't think I ever posted a follow-up from Beerfest... here is what was left over:
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Drool.......
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when I'm feeling really fancy I'll pour some Lindemans Framboise into my Hoegaarden.
Framboise is also very good halved with a Guinness Stout.
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Framboise is also very good halved with a Guinness Stout.
Ooooh really? I guess I know what I'll be drinking this weekend... :boozing:
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Oskar Blues Old Chub, Abita Baltic Porter, Samuel Smith Organic Chocolate Stout, and Left Hand Milk Stout are my current favorites. All are highly recommended if you favor malty beer.
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Framboise is also very good halved with a Guinness Stout.
I always liked Guinness Stout best halved with Guinness Stout.
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I always liked Guinness Stout best halved with Guinness Stout.
LOL. My husband wholeheartedly agrees. I am a shameless beer adulterator.
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LOL. My husband wholeheartedly agrees. I am a shameless beer adulterator.
Nothing wrong with mixing beers to make them the way you like them. :boozing:
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LOL. My husband wholeheartedly agrees. I am a shameless beer adulterator.
Next time you guys are in Lancaster check out the Taproom and Lancaster Brewing Co.
https://www.facebook.com/Taproom-by-Spring-House-Brewing-Co-170106599701946/
https://www.facebook.com/Lancaster-Brewing-Company-88334416519/
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Nothing wrong with mixing beers to make them the way you like them. :boozing:
Cheers!
Next time you guys are in Lancaster check out the Taproom and Lancaster Brewing Co.
https://www.facebook.com/Taproom-by-Spring-House-Brewing-Co-170106599701946/
https://www.facebook.com/Lancaster-Brewing-Company-88334416519/
Thanks! Will do. :thumb:
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That reminds me, I don't think I ever posted a follow-up from Beerfest... here is what was left over:
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BTW, there would have been no Wells or LBC leftover for that photo had I been able to make it..... :boozing:
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BTW, there would have been no Wells or LBC leftover for that photo had I been able to make it..... :boozing:
Perhaps but there was plenty more to try, so you might have been distracted.
There were about a dozen other beers there too. By rough count we had about 180 bottles, and only 7-8 beer drinkers in attendance.
So the fact that there were < 80 bottles left the next day wasn't bad.
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Saison's are all the rage out here these days. From a taste / character perspective they vary wildly. Some I don't like at all.
Ovila Abbey Saison from Sierra Nevada is really tasty. Not sure how hard it is to find. I got mine at the Brewery in Chico. Very worthwhile visit if you're in the area.
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Currently Rolling Rock is my favorite. For splurging it's Blue Moon orange flavored lager. :boozing:
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Love a good hefe
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Hi guys, love my cooper pale ale, Molsons Canadian, Sierra Nevada, Anchor brewing co,Anchor steam, BlueMoon, working on a cider Apple brew kit now. Summer on Oz makes one thirsty.
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Alesmith 394, Stone IPA, Ballast point sculpin... Anything from ballast point
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Cold PBR :boozing:
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Not beer! But anyone here ever had a bottle of this stuff?
Durham Gin
(http://durhamdistillery.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/DRD-280x850-Gin-75cl-245x850.jpg)
There are three ingredients to our Gin.
Firstly, and most importantly there are the botanicals – a mix of herbs and spices which give the unique flavour to our Gin. The exact recipe is a secret, but we use 10 seperate botanicals, including some traditional flavours like Juniper as well as some unusual ones like pink peppercorns. We work with the Botanical Gardens at Durham University who advise us, but we source them from around the world – our Juniper for example is grown in Italy. We have a long term ambition to start growing our own Durham strain of Juniper in a secret location in the Durham Dales.
Secondly there is spring water, which we get from a natural spring near Durham City.
The third and final ingredient is, of course, alcohol. We use pure grain spirit to make our Gin. Our Gin is 40% alcohol, which means that you should always drink it in a sensible and moderate manner. Drinking too much is bad for you, so drink less, but drink the good stuff.
http://durhamdistillery.co.uk/spirits/gin/?age-verified=95f51ab00a
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I held off on posting to this thread, as I have very strong opinions on beer. I used to brew quite a bit of beer myself back in the late '70's when I was working in a muslim country and it was not available. I was told by all my friends that I was very good at making beer. (But then, they wanted my beer too). Any plug out there can make ale. Even a passable ale as it's so easy to make. Wide temperature variations during fermenting don't bother an ale wort much. Brewing a good lager is a work of art, in my opinion, and much more difficult. And the Germans, with their Reinheitsbebot (purity law, look it up), have it down like nowhere else. Worked at the airport in Leipzig for the last 7 yrs. prior to my retirement last year and if you like really good lager and are ever in that area, here's a few that are some of the very best, in my opinion again:
http://www.koethener-brauerei.de/truempfe/
http://www.radeberger.com/age_check
http://www.ranker.com/pics/N251969/altenburger-premium-beers-photo-1
http://www.ranker.com/pics/N252260/flensburger-pilsener-beers-photo-u1
http://www.ranker.com/pics/N253601/jever-pilsener-beers-photo-1
And finally this one, which is honest to God mother's milk:
http://www.leikeim.de/index.php?id=318
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My most recent favorite. It's a double IPA and is siiiiiillllky smooth. Fantastic stuff. Only available in Vermont unfortunately and is usually sold out within a few hours of delivery.
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BTW, any one know what happened to the OP?
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WI only beer run...
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One of my favorites, St. Patrick's Day Stout, in process this afternoon.
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Good question , Sean hasn't been active in almost a year . Anyone know ?
Dusty
Yes, would like to know if he and the wife are OK.
Dean
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BTW, any one know what happened to the OP?
I used to see Sean & Erin every now and then. His "day job" is a trust & estate lawyer, and one of his other hobbies was fitness & weight training. Last I heard, he and a couple of his friends from that world were planning to open some kind of a cross-training gym so I suspect that endeavor has expanded to occupy all available spare time, plus a little. (As those things tend to do.) As far as I know they are both still doing fine.
Howard
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Founders ReDANKulous Imperial Red
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Breckenridge Vanilla Porter (On Nitro)
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Lazy Magnolia Southern Pecan Nut Brown Ale
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Tadcaster .....Oatmeal stout or Dragons milk....maybe naughty girl scout stout...Guinness... ...yeah Guinness if I had to choose just one
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When I drink, my blood pressure goes down. Heart Doc's say it goes up! :thewife:
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I must drink at least a six pack a year and well
my favourite is
I mean, should I apologize?
My fave is...
Miller Hi Life
(ok that's in general, if at a restaurant with microbrew I like a dark yeasty ale)
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Drinking a Double or Nothing maple barley wine right now. A Vermont collaboration between Lawson Brewery and Otter Creek, limited release.
My faves( I have no single ones) are Belgian styles, Imperial stouts, and Doppelbocks. I live in the land of Genesee Beer, another significant Northeast local brewery. They have recently started pilot brewery releases. Acceptable Scotch ale, nice Doppelbock.
Hope they continue.
Hard Aspie, there's a microbrewery in Cottonwood. You might try a sampler there, some nice beers.
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Thank you! When I have procured transportation I shall. (with a suitable walk around between beer and bike of course)
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When in Dublin, Guiness, its better there, yes really
Leffe has bacon notes, don't like that it is brewed by in bev though
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Yeah, Ralph Steadman does all the Flying Dog labels.
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Visited SFO last October, tried all the beers but Sierra Nevada did it for me, Molsons are great when I visit Canada, must say after 6 or more didn't have any after effects next day. Maybe the lack of preservatives helps. Just put down a apple cider home brew. 68 stubbies. After about 2 weeks they were superb. Next may try a pale ale.
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Schlafly Oatmeal Stout
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Sipping a 2013 Bigfoot Barleywine tonight and it is doing quite well. :boozing:
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My liquor cabinet has the following:
Elijah Craig,
Woodford Reserve,
Maker's Mark,
Seagram's 7,
Crown Royal,
Canadian Club,
Captain Morgan,
Captain Morgan Silver,
Agavero,
Heradura Gold.
Ecco Domani Pinot Grigio.
No beer.
I drink beer when I have to. I prefer Whisky, Bourbon or Tequila.
:)
Rocker .......... Canadian Club :sad: Me being Canadian may I suggest a premium Canadian blend.. Gibsons Finest perhaps ... Let me know if that works as it used to be my weapon of choice.
Cheers. :thumb:
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Founders Dirty Bastard Scotch Ale
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21st Amendment Toaster Pastry. Wow. Tastes nothing like the name, which is a tribute to the former use of the factory where the beer is made.
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Not sure the last time I drank a beer. Last year sometime? If memory serves it was one of those summer beers with lemon in it, at Applebees. Wasn't bad.
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Our new hometown of Asheville NC is a beer capital apparently. Green Man ESB is wicked good.
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There's clearly some expert palates on board and I appreciate all the recommendations.
I've found in my 20 odd years of beer drinking that my favorites are most often the result of the event around which they are consumed and not the choice of beer itself.
Example 1) Fat Tire. Solid brew. I like it. Now take a 15 mile hike and stumble into a treeline chalet with Fat Tire on tap and that stuff is about as good a beer as is possible.
Example 2) great friends, a good meal, and a decent lager (I think it's a lager anyhow) called Fisher from France. I can't find it anywhere in the states but holy moly was it ahmazing that particular evening.
Example 3) Festival in Martinique or maybe Guadeloupe? It's a bit blurry. We drank a beer called Kubuli from Dominica. I'm fairly certain that there's lighter fluid and sawdust in it...but that night it was perfect.
And, appropriate for the topic, in case any of ya'll need one or need a gift for someone (I have no affiliation), check out
www.beercapmaps.com
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Bells Cherry Stout
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Tossup between Franziskaner and Weihenstephaner. I like my hefeweizen.
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Took a trip to the OBX a few weeks ago. We always stay in the 4x4 only section and we have to haul in/out garbage, so I decided I'd try and limit our beer to canned products only (which can be crushed and take up less space).
I actually managed to limit it to not only canned beers, but only from North Carolina Microbreweries!
Found some excellent beers from the likes of Wheeping Raddish, Aviator, and Mystery!
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I see where InBev recently bought Devil's Backbone out of VA. I've enjoyed several of their offerings as they tend to make more lagers. That will blow up their capacity and I hope they keep making more of those less mainstream offerings.
I've been on an anti-hop kick for about a year now. Don't get me wrong I love a good hopped up ale but for a while it seemed that everyone in the craft business wanted to just add more and more hops. I've had enough so now I drink porters, lagers, and wheaters mostly. I also like the fresh beers with limited ingredients and told Kim those were the "healthy beers." She knows it's just BS but lets me think I'm getting away with something.
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WI only beer run...
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Every time we go to Wisconsin to visit the Kid, we bootleg Wisconsin micros to Indiana. A cross roads in Wisconsin isn't an excuse to build a tavern, it's an excuse to build three taverns and a brewery. :smiley: :boozing:
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Every time we go to Wisconsin to visit the Kid, we bootleg Wisconsin micros to Indiana. A cross roads in Wisconsin isn't an excuse to build a tavern, it's an excuse to build three taverns and a brewery. :smiley: :boozing:
New Galarus makes some wonderful stuff!
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Montheiths Black
New Zeland beer
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Just got this IPA in Manila
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I see where InBev recently bought Devil's Backbone out of VA.
That's concerning - another craft brewery under the Anheiser-Busch tent.
Devil's Backbone makes one of my favorite IPAs, Eight Point IPA. Hope their quality stays true.
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I just can't drink an IPA, way too bitter. :sad:
I think hops is the ally of skunky. :whip2:
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I just can't drink an IPA, way too bitter. :sad:
I think hops is the ally of skunky. :whip2:
That's OK.....maybe when you grow up..... :whip2: :wink: :boozing:
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ohh , I'll never grow up. :cool:
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Birra Moretti
Your Guzzi was made, probably under its influence.
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I think hops is the ally of skunky.
When chemicals in hops are exposed to UV, skunkiness happens. Take any hoppy beer, put it in a clear glass, and place it in direct sunlight for five minutes. Skunky odor and flavor will be obvious.
I was told that folks at Heineken put their US export beer in green bottles because US customers expect Heineken to be skunky. I've seen their beer in bottles sold in Europe, and it was in brown bottles and cans.
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Pilsner Urquel
Sam Adams Boston Lager
Victory Mad Elf
Mack & Jack African Lager
Devil's Backbone Vienna Lager
Most Favorites - Chimay Red
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Hops have chlorophyll. When exposed to sunlight the chlorophyll does what it is supposed to. Skunky beer is a result. Get your beer in brown bottles or cans. The new thing promoted by micro breweries is crowlers. 32 oz cans of brew. Superb idea. These guys are just a few miles down the road. (https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p296x100/14322198_1305981229413155_5446020139188750367_n.jpg?oh=2d3992f95dcfdf181ae97d420e6a2848&oe=583EC552)
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Get your Growler's here:
http://www.hydroflask.com/64-oz-growler#92=20
Cold beer all day long...or anything else for that matter...
I don't carry a growler on the bike, but 2 21oz Hydro flasks and even on scorching hot days, you can have nice cold water/tea/gatorade on demand...
Makes me feel it's time for a Summer Shandy Leinenkugel now!!
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Today I will be drinking Iron Maiden Trooper ale at my local village pub while taking the piss out of the landlord for owning Harley Davidsons which he is too lazy/infirm/stupid to ride.
http://www.ironmaidenbeer.com/
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Today I will be drinking Iron Maiden Trooper ale at my local village pub while taking the piss out of the landlord for owning Harley Davidsons which he is too lazy/infirm/stupid to ride.
Internet
WIN
of the day! :thumb:
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Favorite beer?!? Anything brewed fresh in Germany!! :laugh: :grin: :wink: :thumb: :1: :cool:
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1. Jever Pilsener.
2. Lübzer Urkraft.
Both from Northern Germany.
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1. Jever Pilsener.
2. Lübzer Urkraft.
Both from Northern Germany.
BitBurger and Dom Kolsch also (I lived in Aachen for 2 years!!) "Bitte Ein Bit!" :laugh: :grin: :wink:
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BitBurger and Dom Kolsch also (I lived in Aachen for 2 years!!) "Bitte Ein Bit!" :laugh: :grin: :wink:
Bitburger was the lager they served on the river cruise we died last year. Very drinkable.
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The Beer Prayer
Our lager,
Which art in barrels,
Hallowed be thy drink.
Thy will be drunk, (I will be drunk),
At home as it is in the tavern.
Give us this day our foamy head,
And forgive us our spillage,
As we forgive those who spill against
us.
And lead us not to incarceration,
But deliver us from hangovers.
For thine is the beer, the bitter, and
the lager.
Barmen
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The Beer Prayer
Our lager,
Which art in barrels,
Hallowed be thy drink.
Thy will be drunk, (I will be drunk),
At home as it is in the tavern.
Give us this day our foamy head,
And forgive us our spillage,
As we forgive those who spill against
us.
And lead us not to incarceration,
But deliver us from hangovers.
For thine is the beer, the bitter, and
the lager.
Barmen
I'm knicking that!
Cheers.
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nothing like getting off the bike after a 2 hour ride when the temps are muggy mid 90s and open an ice cold Pabst Blue Ribbon .
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refreshing !
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nothing like getting off the bike after a 2 hour ride when the temps are muggy mid 90s and open an ice cold Pabst Blue Ribbon .
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refreshing !
Yes there is, how about getting off the bike after a 10 hour ride (600 miles) when the temps after muggy mid 90's and ordering a nice curry with A COLD dunkel.
Photo from Thursday evening:
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No, he's right Kev... there is nothing like a Pabst Blue Ribbon. :)
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No, he's right Kev... there is nothing like a Pabst Blue Ribbon. :)
Ha ha yeah well that's true.... Not a good thing, but true!
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Wow this is an old thread, so my favorite beer is the one I have in my hand, at the time I am thirsty.
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Kev, Dunkel is good stuff when it's cool but it's pretty heavy on a hot muggy day.
And of course PBR taste great and is less money (Guzzi Content :thumb:)
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Kev, Dunkel is good stuff when it's cool but it's pretty heavy on a hot muggy day.
And of course PBR taste great and is less money (Guzzi Content :thumb:)
How about an ESB in a basement bar .. Double "cool".
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We had our annual Beerfest on Saturday...
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Now THAT looks like a total blast!
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We had our annual Beerfest on Saturday...
Too many good ones to list.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171009/48125f0945023daa4397baf5dddf99a7.jpg)
I'll bet the level of that lake went up a measurable amount over the course of the day .... !
Lannis
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beer snobs.
and some of it -cough cough- IPA- is shit.
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Stacy's Mom? Now THAT'S a story for another time............... ..........
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So many great craft breweries, so little time.
My favorite is Truth from Rhinegeist. Not only is it a great beer and a great brewery, but they host my favorite bike show of the year every January actually set up in the working brewery. Check out: http://garagebrewed.com/
The bikes are staged on top of beer barrels for the show, everything from high dollar customs to just cool stuff regular guys did in their own garage. If you're within driving distance to Cincinnati it's well worth the trip. What else are you going to do in Ohio in late January?
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I see you have some Lancaster Brewing Company Oktoberfest in the mix. The Harrisburg location of LBC is a huge supporter of the Distinguished Gentleman's Ride. They are the starting and ending location and they comp the riders wings, pizza, etc. from their menu.
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I see you have some Lancaster Brewing Company Oktoberfest in the mix. The Harrisburg location of LBC is a huge supporter of the Distinguished Gentleman's Ride. They are the starting and ending location and they comp the riders wings, pizza, etc. from their menu.
I'll keep that in mind. Jenn's always liked their milk stout.
I'm a particular fan of marzen style lagers, so I make it a point to try as many as I can each season.
I currently have them "rated" (lined up) on the shelf behind the kitchen sink. So far this season that includes 17 different marzens. I think Lancaster falls about mid-range.
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She'd probably like the Double Chocolate Milk Stout on nitro.
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She might.
Announcing this year's Marzen ranking lol:
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Are those pictured in order of preference? Is Harpoon your favorite thus far? :popcorn:
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Are those pictured in order of preference? Is Harpoon your favorite thus far? :popcorn:
It IS my friend, but in order, from LEAST to BEST. :police: Meaning Harpoon is by far my LEAST favorite, followed closely by Seven Seas Treasure Fest. Both companies have attempted to create a new category of Marzen with said beers - I'll loosely refer it to a IPA-FEST.
Someone needs to tell those MF'rs that Marzens are supposed to be rich and creamy! MALTY, not even as hoppy as a Pilsner. :thewife:
But no, everyone has to be a friggin' sour-beered Hop-Heads these days. LOUD HOPS DON'T SAVE LIVES! They only ruin good malty beers. :boxing:
JEEEZZZZZUUUSSSSS KEEEEYYYYRRRRRIIISS TTT ON A FRIGGIN MOTORBIKE... Even Satan's own Hop-Heavy Children from Victory Brewing (Downingtown PA) got the friggin message and left an extra half-ton of hops out of the mash for their Fest Beer (note their placement is a surprise 5th place). :boozing:
Honestly, scoring is a little tough since it wasn't all in one sitting and sometimes I had to make the best judgment call I could, but I was truly impressed with some large craft brewers products this year - Sammy A and Sierra Nevada were outstanding. And you'll note that a number of Craft and Micros simply out-played the large corporate attempts from Germany this year! Kudos.
But Harpoon - blech. :evil:
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gawd... I agree with Kev.
Hop Heads have ruined beer.
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Apologies if this has been posted before, but it reinforces what’s been said here.
http://www.sfexaminer.com/stop-pretending-like-ipas/ (http://www.sfexaminer.com/stop-pretending-like-ipas/)
“My name is John Witt, and I approve this message.”
Meanwhile, my house in Richmond, VA, is in staggering distance of nine craft breweries. Each and every one worth a visit, though best not in the same day!
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Apologies if this has been posted before, but it reinforces what’s been said here.
http://www.sfexaminer.com/stop-pretending-like-ipas/ (http://www.sfexaminer.com/stop-pretending-like-ipas/)
“My name is John Witt, and I approve this message.”
Meanwhile, my house in Richmond, VA, is in staggering distance of nine craft breweries. Each and every one worth a visit, though best not in the same day!
Yes, yes, and yes
It wasn’t always this way. The IPAs that came out 15-plus years ago, like Racer 5 and Lagunitas, were more balanced and inviting. Sure, they were hoppier and more bitter than other beers, but they weren’t assholes about it. And beer lists weren’t catered just toward them.
Sometime in the past decade, brewers decided beer wasn’t hoppy enough. They began one-upping each other, trying to see who could make a beer so hoppy that the drinker’s face would pucker up like an angry anus.
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gawd... I agree with Kev.
Hop Heads have ruined beer.
:1: I too have come to that conclusion. I like some hop but so many of the (generally very expensive) craft beers I find just too hoppy.
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Tanglefoot.
Does just what it says........
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The Brooklyn is a nice surprise.
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The Brooklyn is a nice surprise.
They are a nice brewery and I've enjoyed their products for quite some time.
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I read the book about the Brooklyn Brewery, and it was interesting.
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gawd... I agree with Kev.
Hop Heads have ruined beer.
Count me in your camp!
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I’m fickle. My favourite is whatever’s going down we’ll on the night. But it takes a lot to beat Timothy Taylor’s Landlord.
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So, in the spirit of this thread, I enjoyed a Sam Adams Oktoberfest while watching my Yankees go down. UGH.
Anyway, it was a pleasant surprise. I hardly ever go for a Sam anything but full marks to them for making a very passable brew.
Glad I tried it.
Anyone for a King Ludwig?
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South County Brewing Co.
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We have Negra Modelo on tap at the moment, but we were gifted a case of Abita Rye Pale Ale and have enjoyed it very much. It's nearly as good as their Baltic Porter from a couple of years ago...
https://abita.com/brews/rye-pale-ale#
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2008 started a hop allergy that put me off beer for a long time. That has subsided a bit so that anything with less than 30-35 IBUs is tolerable. No IPAs for me.
Lawnmower beer:
Hamm's (you cannot beat $10 for a 30 pack, and it's not terrible)
When back in Wisconsin:
New Glarius thumbprint series
Point amber lager
Most of the time the beer fridge has these depending on season:
Bells Christmas Ale- damn best scotch ale out there
Bells Black Note- rare as hens teeth, Most have never heard of it. Bourbon barrel aged stout.
Founders KBS- bourbon barrel aged stout- hard to find. VERY thick
Founders CBS- this is fantastic, but rare and expensive. Same as KBS, but the barrels were old bourbon barrels that then were used for maple syrup. VERY good.
Bells Best Brown
Alaskan Amber
Bells Amber
New Holland Dragon's Milk- bourbon barrel aged stout
I don't do much large scale beer anymore. It's mostly craft beer. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a brewery in Michigan.
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I don't always drink beer but when I do my favorite is COLD:)
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I don't always drink beer but when I do my favorite is COLD:)
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"Cold" is almost as good as "free". Unless it's an IPA which is only for watering plants.
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...the one I'm holding at the moment :thumb:
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To quote moto great Ryan "Rino" Hughes - My favorite beer is vodka.
Also the reason stopped drinking years ago! :cool:
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Probably Timothy Taylor's Landlord. But I'm prepared to be flexible if you're buying.
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I don't always drink beer but when I do my favorite is COLD:)
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Cold destroys flavour. Hence Budweiser.
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For me the favorite is constantly changing. However, I have never been fond of IPA's or any beer with an IBU near or above 50. Right now if I could have any one beer, it would be a Fuller's ESB.
Alaskan amber is pretty good, too.
Jon
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Hopadillo is tolerable
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About anything you’re buying as long as it’s not one of those gawd awful IPA’s or a Sewers Light
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I have to ask, if beer had no alcohol content, would you still drink it? I have no taste for beer so that's why I ask...
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I have to ask, if beer had no alcohol content, would you still drink it? I have no taste for beer so that's why I ask...
Good question. I probably wouldn't, just like I wouldn't drink decaffeinated coffee.
Jon
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The one being served by the buxom bar maid who feels the need to reach across the table to wipe up some unknown spill. :gotpics:
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My favourites! (Ok, I actually prefer the Rochefort 8 over the 10)
All beautiful, harmonious, strong Belgian ales - except the Ringnes Extra Gold, which is a rich pilsner-type.
They're great (best?) at about 10C.
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Several years ago my Kiddos brewed up an IPA for me for Christmas. My Grand Kiddos call me B_Pa, it comes from the oldest trying to say GrandPa when he was about a year (?) old and it stuck, they all call me that to this day. I like it.
So, B_Pa IPA was born. We have brewed it many more times since, once in a Imperial Pale Ale which was a bit more rugged, we went back to India Pale Ale, so flavorful... Mmmm... :boozing:
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Highland Brewery's seasonal offering- Thunderstruck Coffee Porter, is absolutely excellent and my favorite beer for now.
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I'm digging the New Glarus Spotted Cow (a Wisconsin farmhouse ale) for now.
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I'm looking forward to a couple of Tui's with my Brothers next month when I hit Godzone.
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I don’t know whether it’s a good thing or a bad thing, but my trusty Guzzi dealer, Moto Richmond, sits a half-block away from an award-winning local brewery and pub.
Legend Brown Ale makes the wait seem shorter and the bill seem more reasonable. Requires willpower, though!
I usually buy the stuff by the case at Costco and confine my drinking to home base.
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/486/1647/
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At Christmas time, back at my mom's house in Harrisburg, I really, really love a Troeg's Mad Elf (or two...but watch out, they sneak up on you quite quickly...) https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/694/7531/
I live in Wisconsin, and we can get more varieties of first-class beer here than any one person needs or deserves in a lifetime, but I do miss the Mad Elf on those years that I don't travel back east.
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Other Half double dry hopped IPA
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I don't drink beer nearly enough, but when I do....... its preferably a cold Hefeweizen (which still has its Wheat / Yeast proteins, so the beer color ranges from a pale straw to a dark golden color), or a Kristallweizen (Wheat and Yeast proteins have been filtered out and the beer is clear), or I drink a Yuengling if the Hefeweizen or Kristallweizen is not available.
If you guys never tasted a Hefeweizen or Kritallweizen, then try one, you will probably like it!
Andy
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My son flew up to DC, to get this for me for Christmas. DC had the first batch released. Interesting flavor, brewed with granola. I think I detected notes of patchouli, weed and unshaven twirling girls.
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My son flew up to DC, to get this for me for Christmas. DC had the first batch released. Interesting flavor, brewed with granola. I think I detected notes of patchouli, weed and unshaven twirling girls.
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sign me up
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Can't have just one....
Chimay Red
Guinness Draught
Pilsner Urquell
Sam Adams Boston Lager
Stella
Go to is Pilsner and Stella, Guinness whenever I feel like it, Sam is the fallback and Chimay when I have the extra cash....
On the Craft beers..... Too many IPA's.... Devil's backbone has a couple decent beers but I think my favorite craft Brewer has to be Blue point toasted lager out of Long Island. We have Port City here in Alexandria Virginia which is okay nothing special. There's an outfit out of Hershey PA called Troegs they have an Ale called Mad Elf which is outstanding, https://troegs.com/beer/mad-elf/
Ah too many to choose, but if I had to only choose one it would probably be pilsner urquell, never get tired of that beer.
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My favorites
Stickee monkee firestone brewery
Shiner
Old speckled hen
Hobgoblin
Guiness
Carlsberg
Moretti la rossa
Alaskan amber
Paulaner Hefewiezen
Most stuff from Galveston island brewery
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Current Favorite.
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Chocolatey Malt and mocha aroma. Dark brown pour with light head. Slight taste of licorice, malty, roasty, earthy.
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Good question. I probably wouldn't, just like I wouldn't drink decaffeinated coffee.
Jon
I would, and I do! It's come a long way... to the point that I doubt many casual beer drinkers would even notice, until they've had a couple.
I'm late to this thread, used to be a beer snob, but now? I either make my beer choice based on the meal its accompanying... or go for a nice clean, crisp pilsner... and in that case, I tend to go for the local inexpensive store branded stuff. "Co-op" has a Pilsner, made and bottled by Big Rock Brewery, it's good. And "Great Western" makes a decent Pilsner, too. Good for those hot summer days in the garage, when water just won't cut it.
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I don’t know whether it’s a good thing or a bad thing, but my trusty Guzzi dealer, Moto Richmond, sits a half-block away from an award-winning local brewery and pub.
Sounds familiar... When I didn't get out of work early enough in New Orleans to hit the "real" laundromat, it was off to Igor's on St Charles- bar/laundromat/pool tables. Lots more enjoyable, but I usually left broke with a huge sack of wet laundry on the handlebars my Schwinn after drinking the money budgeted for the dryers.. They always had Abita on tap and Turbo Dog was nice and dark but not heavy.
there a few beers I don't want but will generally drink whatever is available. Life is too short to be a beer snob. Like a good friend (who has the local beer store in my hometown) asked once - "are you buying for locals or foreigners?"
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ANYTHING from Singlecut in NYC. The best thing to come from there in................E VER!
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My son in law just opened his brewery in Waltham, MA. Mighty Squirrel. My favorite is their Czech style Pilsner. IPA guys will like their Cloud Candy IPA, and Cosmic Distortion double IPA. Johnny Hammer Time if you can handle a triple IPA.
Larry
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My son in law just opened his brewery in Waltham, MA. Mighty Squirrel. My favorite is their Czech style Pilsner. IPA guys will like their Cloud Candy IPA, and Cosmic Distortion double IPA. Johnny Hammer Time if you can handle a triple IPA.
Larry
Anything past a standard IPA (when we're getting into "double" and "triple" territory... no thanks. Not for me.
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Texas Pride at 99 cents a 6 pack. This separates the men from the boys!
Tex
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Any Belgian beer made by monks is at the top of the list. Yuengling is"Americas oldest breweries" (Pitts., Penn.), and their lager is quite tastey. For cheap stuff, it gets two thumbs up! Yuengling is not distributed everywhere, so I have friends that make their way to Penn. and pick me up some now and again. :P
Hey kev yuengling is made on the other end of Pa. In Pottsville Pa. (Near philly). Pittsburgh still brewing iron city and tons of micro brewers!
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First one is on me, ask for Matt
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Alaskan Amber is probably my favorite. Can't find it in the south, which is probably a good thing, so when I do run across it in my travels, I appreciate it more. Also enjoy a couple of others:
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