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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: rocker59 on October 03, 2012, 07:48:33 PM
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I've missed the all-roads ability of my dearly departed Quota 1100 ES over the past five years. Now that the super-tanker NTX is out and available, I've been thinking of how nice it would be to have that off-pavement ability again, not to mention the 8.5 gallons of internal fuel.
That, and the undeniable fact that maintaining four motorcycles and two horses is expensive on my meager budget. So, I've been thinking of thinning the herd down to two, or one, then possibly adding an NTX.
Problem is, what to sell? I've got four motorcycles that I dearly love, and represent the best of Moto Guzzi. Bikes I coveted for years before acquiring them. Each of which I enjoy for its own unique fun factor.
The fleet:
1996 Sport 1100 carb. I bought this bike new in March 1997. It's got 29,000 miles. Keihin FCR41 carbs, full Staintune exhaust, upgraded Brembo front brakes. Great bike. I've ridden it all over the country and at a few track days. It's my first Moto Guzzi. It's got a few scratches and dings, but is a real looker.
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/miscellaneous-bike-photos/sport-1100b-117/767066201_f3DZe-S.jpg)
2004 V11 LeMans Nero Corsa. I bought this bike used in 2006 from a friend with about 2350 miles showing on the clock. It's now been ridden about 42,000 miles. It's been a great sport-touring bike, clocking about 15,000 miles of 2-up touring over the past couple of years. The bike is very clean, and very stock. Another Guzzi beauty that I lusted over for years before acquiring. I had to replace the crappy ITI speedo (with another new ITI). Replaced the shift return spring. Other than that it's not needed much until now. There is a list of things to do on the Nero. It needs a new left rearview mirror. (I broke it fiddling with it in the garage.) The front exhaust crossover went missing on a commute to work last week. The starter needs replacing. And, I fear the clutch may need some work soon. It's a special bike, though. One of fifty in the USA, and the last of the spine frame Guzzis.
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/miscellaneous-bike-photos/hwy-103-overlook-b/198470040_zRoBr-M.jpg)
1991 Lemans 1000 CI. This bike came to me from Chuck in Indiana back in January of this year. Only 9400 miles on this survivor. It's one of only seventeen examples of the LeMans 1000 CI imported to the USA in 1991. A pretty rare bird. I had lusted after a LeMans since the 1980s, and scoring one of the last examples imported was a lucky day for me. Other than a maybe a battery and some carb fine tuning, this beauty doesn't need much. Sure, it's got a few scratches and nicks from years of sitting around, but its practically a new motorcycle!
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/1991-LM-V/i-jQPvxd2/0/M/LM-v-M.jpg)
2010 V7 Classic. This bike came from Singolare Guzzi in July of this year. I traded him my California Bassa for it. What a great little bike! Hepco + Becker racks, but otherwise very stock with 5300 miles on the clock. I first rode a V7C at the MGNOC National in Salida Colorado back in 2009. It was a hoot, and I decided I'd like to have one. Finally, this year, that happened with our trade. It's been a great commuter this summer, and has even seen some 2-up duty. Nothing bad to say about these V7 Classics!
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/V7-Classic/i-fFJKTR9/0/M/left-rear-3-4-M.jpg)
So, four bikes is my current personal limit. I like them all. If I sell one, or two, I have no idea which I'd prefer selling. With a bigger budget, I'd endeavor to be the mainland's Tom!
Feel free to jump in and discuss. Which would you sell, or keep, and why? The goal is to either sell two and keep two, or sell three and add an NTX...
If you think you may be interested in one of the bikes, send me a PM... This is just something I've been pondering, and I thought it might make a good topic of conversation...
:bike
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Tough decisions for sure. I had to think long and hard to sell my Centauro and EV to get my first Stelvio. I miss the EV the most, but you're making a good choice on the NTX. I tell ya, that gas tank is nice to have. 2 tanks to mokan and back was a hoot.
I'm gonna sleep on something, but I have one of those bikes in mind. I'll PM ya depending on my dream.
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And I'd be very interested in the Nero if I wasn't saving up for an adventure bike too!
Luap the suspense is killing me!
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Keep This
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/1991-LM-V/i-jQPvxd2/0/M/LM-v-M.jpg)
and this IMHO
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/miscellaneous-bike-photos/sport-1100b-117/767066201_f3DZe-S.jpg)
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Keep This
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/1991-LM-V/i-jQPvxd2/0/M/LM-v-M.jpg)
and this IMHO
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/miscellaneous-bike-photos/sport-1100b-117/767066201_f3DZe-S.jpg)
It's what I'd do. That Sport C is as much a part of you as your teeth! ;D
Pete
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The only choice you have is to sell the two horses!
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The only choice you have is to sell the two horses!
;D ;D
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I vote for keeping the V7 Classic and adding the NTX. The V7 is your smallest and most nimble bike so it has its own unique set of fun qualities. The NTX would be your sport-tourer/adventure bike. The 8V 1200 engine is a sweet engine that everyone should experience.
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The only choice you have is to sell the two horses!
Yep. You sort of "glossed over it", but the care and feeding and boarding and grooming and farrier and vet bills and towing-rig gasoline to support those horses completely swamps out the cost of the motorcycles.
Horses go, all motorcycles stay, and a Stelvio joins the herd! So let it be written; so let it be done!
Lannis
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Sell the house, sell the horses, sell the car, keep all four!! ;D
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I vote for keeping the V7 Classic and adding the NTX.
That would be the practical thing to do, and has crossed my mind.
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...the care and feeding and boarding and grooming and farrier and vet bills and towing-rig gasoline to support those horses completely swamps out the cost of the motorcycles.
True. It works out to several hundred dollars per month...
Horses go, all motorcycles stay, and a Stelvio joins the herd! So let it be written; so let it be done!
Having grown up around horses, that's easier said than done for someone with the Equestrian Gene, and isn't currently an option on the table.
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Animals/2012-August-18-Pea-Ridge/i-frnG2t8/1/S/DSCN3731-S.jpg)
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Animals/2011-September-11-Hobbs-WMA/i-nF4TQPh/0/S/Mike-Lady-1-S.jpg)
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Animals/2012-September-29-Erbie-Horse/i-qSq9dZj/0/S/DSCN9192-S.jpg)
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Geesman and Vasco DG definitely went for the passionate/sexy option...
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/miscellaneous-bike-photos/sport-1100b-117/767066201_f3DZe-S.jpg)
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/1991-LM-V/i-jQPvxd2/0/S/LM-v-S.jpg)
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not sure what you should sell but I know which one I wish I could buy.. the Nero.
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True. It works out to several hundred dollars per month...
Well, Horse Gene or not, don't post this question on the BB for "Horse Fancier's Weekly"; you KNOW what they'll say! "Dump those horrible motorcycles and buy a couple more horses!" :D
Lannis
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The V7 is the obvious one to go (if you must get rid of something). The others are rare and getting rarer.
You know what, this is a depressing thread, except for the part about buying the NTX.
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The V7 is the obvious one to go (if you must get rid of something). The others are rare and getting rarer.
You know what, this is a depressing thread, except for the part about buying the NTX.
This^^^^ ;-T Besides, from a purely selfish POV, I don't care to see the "spine frame chronicles" fade away.
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Well, Horse Gene or not, don't post this question on the BB for "Horse Fancier's Weekly"; you KNOW what they'll say! "Dump those horrible motorcycles and buy a couple more horses!" :D
Lannis
:D Yeah...
For me, motorcycles and horses have lots of overlap. They do the same things. Not many of my horse friends or motorcycle friends understand that, though.
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You know what, this is a depressing thread,
It's not meant to be.
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Whattt!!! Wasnt that you sayen that..... well kinda sayin,over my dead body I would part with my beloved Daytona.... or do you have another one that your not showen??? ;D
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Whattt!!! Wasnt that you sayen that..... well kinda sayin,over my dead body I would part with my beloved Daytona.... or do you have another one that your not showen??? ;D
Nah... That was Blackcat, Tom, or Turin...
If I had a Daytona, I'd be showin' it... :bike
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You have a tough decision. I say keep them all and go broke buying an NTX. Man I wish I had your problems sometimes.
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not sure what you should sell but I know which one I wish I could buy.. the Nero.
;-T +1
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A delightful problem, and a hypothetical one I hope. Were it me, i'd let the V7 go since it not rare and becoming less so. It is a nice rider, but you'll be on the new bike. The next choice is the harder one. Nero or the 1000? This isn't about the wallet I think, but garage space or a deal with the wife to hold it to four. If it were a wallet issue I think competition for the nero would get a better price despite the miles (correct me) than the recently completed project. Personal vanity would cause me to ride the project for at least a year...
The real conundrum is that you seem to me to be a "Fixer", not a "Farkler". The current fleet is fixed, and the new bike would only need farkles - unsatisfying bolt on stuff, unlikely to satisfy you genuine unmet need. Your problem is you need to sell two, relax the constraint, or lose your identity. I agree with you about horses BTW. And they actually do love you back. Even the Sporti won't do that. Best of luck friend.
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It is only depressing if ALL the bikes and ALL the horses go. You are blessed with the opportunity to make a choice. That said, bikes come and go, women come and go, houses come and go, but horses (and dogs) are insanely reliable and loyal; so until you lock the barn door behind the last horse you're really doing ok, right?
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I'm of tne school that has one new Guzzi and one old Guzzi.
In my case a Breva 1100 and Sport 1100.
The NTX will serve well as your new Guzzi.
Personally I'd keep the Sport 1100, but obviously I'm partial to that model.
M
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The NTX is going to give you the range, comfort, and versatility to tackle any kind of touring. What it won't do is provide a lightweight, simple mount for taking a quick zip around the neighborhood, or an evening run up that favorite stretch of road before bedtime. It seems to me the V7 fits that bill.
Yes, the other bikes are rare and getting rarer, but your time and effort are worth money, too. Besides, are you into motorcycling for the enjoyment, or for the money? These are motorcycles, not an investment portfolio. Also, if you sell them, it's not like they are going to the crusher; some other Guzzisti will get to enjoy them (like, um... me), then, hopefully, pass them on to their next caretakers.
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Tough call. I'm down from seven bikes to three (plus one in the living room). I sold my V7 last year only to buy another one six months later. You've experienced firsthand how much fun the little bugger is. Now, it's the only bike I reach for.
I too am facing a similar quandary -- bid adieu to the K1200RS and replace it with an NTX? I promised myself to never sell that bike. But maybe it's time.
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Keep the sport and the V7 get rid of the other two I'm sure the stelvio will do two up touring happily.
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I can solve your dilemma very easily, as soon as I can figure out how to get into your garage some night and load all four bikes into my pick-up, without alerting you..
Ralph
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Keep the ones that are harder to come by. The Nero and the LM V aka LM 1000. The other two aren't that had to find.
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Perhaps, start by just selling one (Sport 1100 or Nero) and live with that for a little while to see how you feel.
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You don't want them gathering dust and you aren't in it as a collector.
Sell the 2 you ride the least.
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My first vulturey thought was "I wonder how much for the Lemans V ;D". So that's keeper #1. The stelvio is supposed to be one heck of a touring bike, and you probably don't need two of those, so the Nero could probably go. (IMO a special paint job limited addition doesn't make a bike more valuable. I learned that with my '87 ducati Paso ltd. and those had special engine tuning. Just my opinion) With tha train of thought, how many spine frame Lemans bikes were built compared to carbie sports? 10 years down the road, I'd wager the sport would be worth more. And I think it's much better looking.Your sport also has some really tasty add ons, and if I was looking for one, yours is the one I'd like to have. That's my pick for keeper # 2. I'm to big to ride a V7, sat on one at the dealership and I looked like a circus bear on a tricycle so no opinion on that bike.
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Load that trailer and head to the glue factory. No more shovelin' $#!+.
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My first vulturey thought was "I wonder how much for the Lemans V ;D". So that's keeper #1. The stelvio is supposed to be one heck of a touring bike, and you probably don't need two of those, so the Nero could probably go. (IMO a special paint job limited addition doesn't make a bike more valuable. I learned that with my '87 ducati Paso ltd. and those had special engine tuning. Just my opinion) With tha train of thought, how many spine frame Lemans bikes were built compared to carbie sports? 10 years down the road, I'd wager the sport would be worth more. And I think it's much better looking.Your sport also has some really tasty add ons, and if I was looking for one, yours is the one I'd like to have. That's my pick for keeper # 2. I'm to big to ride a V7, sat on one at the dealership and I looked like a circus bear on a tricycle so no opinion on that bike.
I agree, sell the Nero and the V7.
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I've regretted every bike I've ever sold, except a Honda CX500 with no cam lobes :(. I have vowed to never sell a bike again. thus the 16 I currently have.
IMO, keep the bikes. There are things you can do to make maintenance a breeze on multiple bikes. You will regret selling them.
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I've regretted every bike I've ever sold, except a Honda CX500 with no cam lobes :(. I have vowed to never sell a bike again. thus the 16 I currently have.
I've only ever regretted selling ONE.
Everything else I've been able to find something better down the road.
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I've only ever regretted selling ONE.
Everything else I've been able to find something better down the road.
That's pretty much my take. I wish I had just put my RD400C in storage rather than flogging it off for a Vespa - but other than that, the other 25 I've sold, I was done with, or had worn them out, or had bought them worn out and wore them REALLY out, or was ready to move on. No real regrets, and if I want a fine example of any bike I've ever owned, they're ALL still out there!
Lannis
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The only choice you have is to sell the two horses!
;-T
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Always my thinking also....doesn't mean I don't miss some of them...but buying and selling bikes is what I do so sometimes have to have thick skin about it....here is a link to some I've had in just the last 3 years...
http://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m245/eldomike/bikes/
That's pretty much my take. I wish I had just put my RD400C in storage rather than flogging it off for a Vespa - but other than that, the other 25 I've sold, I was done with, or had worn them out, or had bought them worn out and wore them REALLY out, or was ready to move on. No real regrets, and if I want a fine example of any bike I've ever owned, they're ALL still out there!
Lannis
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I say keep all four bikes, keep the horses and talk the GF in to giving you a Stelvio for Christmas :-*
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Keep (1st choice) Sport 1100 or (2nd choice) 91 LM 1000
Sell (1st choice) LM Nero Corsa or (2nd choice) 2010 V7 Classic
I predict this outcome:
Sport 1100 for track days and when the mood strikes to ride a v2 sportbike
"Bagger" Stelvio NTX for touring, sport touring, even commuting, though not as nimble as the V7.
Bob
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I get attached to things and had terrible trouble selling my old pickup so I feel your pain. At the same time, I wish I had your "problem"!
I agree with Kev, sell one and see how you feel.
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Sell the horses! I grew up with always having one to three horses around. Never have missed them. I consider them money pits just like planes, boats and (gulp) many a motorcycle. However I love flying and riding, just not horses.
GliderJohn
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However I love flying and riding, just not horses.
GliderJohn
I must say that if I owned a flying horse, I'd probably sell the motorcycles and keep him.
Lannis
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You don't want them gathering dust and you aren't in it as a collector.
Sell the 2 you ride the least.
I've thought about mothballing a couple of them. The LM-V and Nero are good candidates for that.
Problem is, I believe machines are meant to be used and always hate seeing them in suspended animation.
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No more shovelin' $#!+.
I have people for that...
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Animals/2012-February-18-US-Shooting/i-PrBdbVR/0/S/DSCN9391-S.jpg)
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I say keep all four bikes, keep the horses and talk the GF in to giving you a Stelvio for Christmas :-*
:o
:bike
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Keep the ones that are harder to come by. The Nero and the LM V aka LM 1000. The other two aren't that had to find.
:+1 Absolutely. Beyond being the most valuable and very hard to replace, both will give you more bang for the buck and better help you spread your motorcycle needs.The Stelvio will finish that up and seal the deal. Keep the Nero and Lemans! ;-T
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That's pretty much my take. I wish I had just put my RD400C in storage rather than flogging it off for a Vespa
Lannis
Glad I got rid of mine. Just an old bike with a different sound. The hype did not match reality.
(http://s15.postimage.org/7xqz6olyf/IMG_0597.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7xqz6olyf/)
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Horses die. Motorcycles don't. You ever bury one? :-\ I love horses too but they're harder upkeep than a bike.
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Horses die. Motorcycles don't. You ever bury one? :-\ I love horses too but they're harder upkeep than a bike.
A backhoe. There are two buried in our back pasture.
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;D Okay....you have it covered.
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you think the Stelvio will replace the Nero as your touring vehicle? Just wondering.
I know you must have some attachement to the Nero and the Sport. You've ridden the Nero all over and had the Sport for so long. You have to ask yourself, a year from now, which ones will you say, "I should've never sold that". The way I keep cars & bikes for so long, I can't get rid of anything.
looks like you're just putting them up and seeing which ones create the most interest.
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...looks like you're just putting them up and seeing which ones create the most interest.
Exactly.
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"Original owner/One owner"... feels good just knowing it !!
KEEP THE 1100 SPORT !!! ;)
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"Original owner/One owner"... feels good just knowing it !!
KEEP THE 1100 SPORT !!! ;)
Yeah, but that would mean giving up the Lemans or the Nero Corsa, and that would be just...just...wrong!
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Catch-22
n.
1. a. A situation in which a desired outcome or solution is impossible to attain because of a set of inherently illogical rules or conditions.
b. The rules or conditions that create such a situation.
2. A situation or predicament characterized by absurdity or senselessness.
3. A contradictory or self-defeating course of action.
4. A tricky or disadvantageous condition; a catch.
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Keep This
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/1991-LM-V/i-jQPvxd2/0/M/LM-v-M.jpg)
and this IMHO
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/miscellaneous-bike-photos/sport-1100b-117/767066201_f3DZe-S.jpg)
Different strokes for different folks as those are the two I'd get rid of. ;)
All the best,
Mark
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"Original owner/One owner"... feels good just knowing it !!
KEEP THE 1100 SPORT !!! ;)
this.
nothing would look better in my garage next to the NTX than a sorted Sport 1100...that's been one of my favorite bikes for years.
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SO let me just throw this up against the wall and see if it sticks...... just say that you were gonna put up the Nero with all those niggling little maintenance issues intact to provide an opportunity for the new owner to bond with it. What would you expect that transaction would add to your Stelvio Fund?
(http://www.woodendcpschool.ik.org/img/piggy-bank.jpg)
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Absolute best solution possible:
Step 1) Put both the Sport and LM in my garage.
Step 2) Wait one year to see which, if any, you miss the most.
Step 3) Retrieve them if you find you can't live without them.
Everyone happy, ESPECIALLY ME!! ;) :D ;D :bike
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Sell the V7, You have a LeMans, what do you need that little thing for?
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Absolute best solution possible:
Step 1) Put both the Sport and LM in my garage.
Step 2) Wait one year to see which, if any, you miss the most.
Step 3) Retrieve them if you can find them.
Everyone happy, ESPECIALLY ME!! ;) :D ;D :bike
There. Fixed it for you.
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Gratzi, mi compadre. It should be easy to find them, they'll be where ever I'm riding at. ;D :D
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Sell the V7, You have a LeMans, what do you need that little thing for?
Pissing people off. ~;
It's set to haul two people and camping gear to Oklahoma next week... :bike
It's also great seeing the look on other rider's faces when they pull in behind me at some roadside stop and ask what size it is, then they learn they've been working to hang with a little bity 750 Guzzi!
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SO let me just throw this up against the wall and see if it sticks......
PM sent
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Call Brookside Motors. Tell them your interest in a new NX. Ask them to put the Leman 1000 and Red Sport on consignment. (or any bikes of your choice) Ask them to waive the sellers fee contingent upon on you buying a new NX from them with the proceeds from the bike sale(s). It's wintertime anyway, let them store the things for you. :D This time of year, only a well heeled buyer pays cash for that type/age of bike. That (or Ebay) is where the moneyed customers will get max exposure to your bikes....You're gonna get clobbered if you try to sell the V7, what with the new one coming out soon....
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Call Brookside Motors. Tell them your interest in a new NX. Ask them to put the Leman 1000 and Red Sport on consignment. (or any bikes of your choice) Ask them to waive the sellers fee contingent upon on you buying a new NX from them with the proceeds from the bike sale(s). It's wintertime anyway, let them store the things for you. :D This time of year, only a well heeled buyer pays cash for that type/age of bike. That (or Ebay) is where the moneyed customers will get max exposure to your bikes....You're gonna get clobbered if you try to sell the V7, what with the new one coming out soon....
While I appreciate your comments, I'm not interested in a consignment. I'm not going to leave my bikes at a dealership 120 miles away, or any dealership for that matter. They're not fixable if damaged, so who cares if the dealership is insured? I don't need that hassle. I have a garage, so I don't need someone to store them. Plus, I ride year-round, anyway!
"Well heeled" refers to what's tucked into a waistband, doesn't it?
Look, I'm not rolling in dough, but I paid cash outright for two of these four motorcycles. I did finance the Sport 1100 back in 1997, and I traded for the V7 (with a bike I paid cash for). Coming up with five or six or seven thousand dollars for something you really want isn't all that hard, and anyone who has been chosen by one of these bikes will be able to pay for it...
I have an Ebay account. I've bought and sold many things, including motorcycles, over the past dozen years. I could have easily just listed one or two of them anonymously on Ebay and not ever mentioned it here.
Part of the point of this thread was not only to discuss, but to offer these bikes to Wildguzzi/MGNOC people if any are interested. There has been some serious interest from a few people via PM and email. I'm pretty sure that I offered them a fair price on the bike they inquired about. Prices that are fair to them and won't bathe me.
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;-T ;-T ;-T ;-T I've only considered selling to MGNOC and forum members.
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;-T ;-T ;-T ;-T I've only considered selling to MGNOC and forum members.
My last three bike deals have been through Wildguzzi/MGNOC people. Two of them even put me up for the night when I went 600+ miles to pick the bikes up.
V7 - Singolare Guzzi
LM-V - Chuck in Indiana
Bassa - JAZZ
I think in each instance both parties were happy, and we were able to solidify friendships in the process. Guzzi friends are good friends.
;-T
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That's the unmentioned benefits of MGNOC membership.
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:D Yeah...
For me, motorcycles and horses have lots of overlap. They do the same things. Not many of my horse friends or motorcycle friends understand that, though.
Agree : I've always thought if I was born a hundred years ago, I'd be riding horses for adventure, not just for transport - the same reason a lot, probably most, of us here ride motorcycles. But wait a minute, I don't even ride horses. Guess I was born too late.
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And I thought I was saving the lemon from an uncertain fate, and getting it a lifetime keeper.. ~;
It's a no brainer. *Everybody* loves their Stelvio for touring, and they're a more capable than most sport bike. V7s can be bought new. Once Marcia finds out how comfortable the Stelvio is, the Nero will become surplus.
Keep the lemon and sport.
Duh. ;D
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My last three bike deals have been through Wildguzzi/MGNOC people. Two of them even put me up for the night when I went 600+ miles to pick the bikes up.
V7 - Singolare Guzzi
LM-V - Chuck in Indiana
Bassa - JAZZ
I think in each instance both parties were happy, and we were able to solidify friendships in the process. Guzzi friends are good friends.
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Kinda has less of an air of selling and more of re-cycling (NPI) in that case.
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bump.
:bike
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Keep This
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/1991-LM-V/i-jQPvxd2/0/M/LM-v-M.jpg)
and this IMHO
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/miscellaneous-bike-photos/sport-1100b-117/767066201_f3DZe-S.jpg)
Ditto. These two are the keepers IMHO.
Regards,
Gregory Bender
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As your good friend and fellow rider, I've been giving your ordeal some careful and serious thought. I see it as a simple space and storage problem. Next weekend works for me, so you pick which ones and I'll safely strap em down, trailer em over to T-town and store em for ya. ;-T ;) ;D
Ditto. These two are the keepers IMHO.
Regards,
Gregory Bender
Yep, those 2 will fit without much headache. :BEER:
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My last three bike deals have been through Wildguzzi/MGNOC people. Two of them even put me up for the night when I went 600+ miles to pick the bikes up.
V7 - Singolare Guzzi
LM-V - Chuck in Indiana
Bassa - JAZZ
I think in each instance both parties were happy, and we were able to solidify friendships in the process. Guzzi friends are good friends.
;-T
I bought my Guzzis here. Picked up the EV in Omaha, the V11 from Chuck's son, Brad.
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Tough question for us to answer Mike. What are your priorities - frequency of use? collectors value? which one talks to you? The Sport is a lovely thing, the Nero - strong like bull, the older LeMans cool classic and the V7 just a sweet light-weight ride. Reminds me of the Gordian knot that no one could untie since all 4 are damn nice. Seems to me the Stelvio will fill the function of the Nero - traveling bike capable of trailer duty. Which leaves - what do you want most - the classic Le Mans or V7? No way I'd sell that Sport. Sell one, continue saving and wait for a used Stelvio to come up?
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I think the GF solution has the most merit.
;D
and MD has offered a storage solution.
::)
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bump.
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Unless I misunderstood, you first need to decide if you want the NTX and then if you do, you need to decide on which 1 of the 4 you will keep? Seems like you are Jonesing for the NTX so that should cover all your touring needs and even some of the sport riding duties. Anyway you seem to have a pool of buyers for whatever you need to sell.
I've been looking at the 95-97 Sports a lot lately but demolished my only good shoulder a month ago. Now I'm thinking the Lemans may be a better choice since there are more choices for handlebar positions.
How soon are you expecting to get your choices sorted out?
Russ
Tucson
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"Original owner/One owner"... feels good just knowing it !!
KEEP THE 1100 SPORT !!! ;)
True dat.
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Of your current four, the one I wouldn't even consider letting go is the Sport. And not just because I also have a Sport that my opinion may be biased, but because 1) It's your first Guzzi; 2)You're its only owner so far; 3) It's rare; 4) Its incredibly, undeniably seductive looks make it worth owning if only just to look at once in a while. As I've heard so many say about these Sports: "I don't care how uncomfortable that thing might be, it's worth owning just on its looks alone," or other variations of the otherwise exact same statement.
Basically, while it may be hard deciding which two of the four to sell, at least in your case, personally, the one I wouldn't sell would be the Sport. I wouldn't even think of it. :o
IMO, of those four, the one I'd consider to be the first on the chopping block would be the Nero Corsa. But that's just me. :-\
My last three bike deals have been through Wildguzzi/MGNOC people. Two of them even put me up for the night when I went 600+ miles to pick the bikes up.
I had the same experience when I flew down to Atlanta to take over as the caretaker of my yellow Sporti from Mike/"tazio". Couldn't have asked for a better buying experience. ;-T
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Of your current four, the one I wouldn't even consider letting go is the Sport. And not just because I also have a Sport that my opinion may be biased, but because 1) It's your first Guzzi; 2)You're its only owner so far; 3) It's rare; 4) Its incredibly, undeniably seductive looks make it worth owning if only just to look at once in a while. As I've heard so many say about these Sports: "I don't care how uncomfortable that thing might be, it's worth owning just on its looks alone," or other variations of the otherwise exact
I do like the lines of the 1000 Sport from almost all angles. It is a beautiful bike in all aspects except one. It has that darned rectangular headlight. I have trouble looking at the bike without being drawn into looking at the headlight. A Ducati Supersport from the 90's wouldn't work for me for the same reason.
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For reasons already mentioned, i would never sell the Sport.
If you can keep the other 3 until you get the NTX, then maybe it would be easier to decide which other 1 or 2 to sell.
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I do like the lines of the 1000 Sport from almost all angles. It is a beautiful bike in all aspects except one. It has that darned rectangular headlight. I have trouble looking at the bike without being drawn into looking at the headlight. A Ducati Supersport from the 90's wouldn't work for me for the same reason.
I completely agree. It pains me to view side-by-side pics of the US v.s Euro fairing/headlight, as the Euro Sport is worlds beyond better looking in the face. I guess you could consider the US Sport a "butterface" lol.
However, I think the rectangular light looks perfect on the mid-90's Ducati 900SS. I think it has to do with the bodywork of the SS being much more squared off and "blocky", where the Sport's body is so sleek and curvy and just downright sexy, that the afterthought headlight just looks like a total... well, afterthought. :-\
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I completely agree. It pains me to view side-by-side pics of the US v.s Euro fairing/headlight, as the Euro Sport is worlds beyond better looking in the face. I guess you could consider the US Sport a "butterface" lol.
However, I think the rectangular light looks perfect on the mid-90's Ducati 900SS. I think it has to do with the bodywork of the SS being much more squared off and "blocky", where the Sport's body is so sleek and curvy and just downright sexy, that the afterthought headlight just looks like a total... well, afterthought. :-\
I never knew there was a different European version of the fairing/headlight of the Sport 1000 for. Did it have a round headlight?
Owners of 90's era Ducati Super Sports always had the option of an aftermarket front fairing that had two round small headlights. I really liked the CR version with the aftermarket front fairing. The CR version was the one with the half fairing.
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I never knew there was a different European version of the fairing/headlight of the Sport 1000 for. Did it have a round headlight?
Owners of 90's era Ducati Super Sports always had the option of an aftermarket front fairing that had two round small headlights. I really liked the CR version with the aftermarket front fairing. The CR version was the one with the half fairing.
The Euro Daytona/1100 Sport/i models came with this design front fairing/headlight.
(http://s10.postimage.org/kr2lri52t/2006_05_01_bikepics_576851_full_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/kr2lri52t/)
Which looks 100% better than the square headlight!
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The CR version was the one with the half fairing.
That's one of my favorite Ducatis, and one I'd like to acquire in the not-too-distant future. A '95-'98 can be had for a relative bargain these days.
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(http://s10.postimage.org/kr2lri52t/2006_05_01_bikepics_576851_full_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/kr2lri52t/)
Yeh, I know that headlight "dates" the bike some,
But I love that "old school" vibe about it!!
and I just like saying "old school" alot...
(http://s10.postimage.org/l24ftjlmd/guzzi_Grizz_814.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/l24ftjlmd/)
(http://s11.postimage.org/dv467t7b3/DSCF1183.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/dv467t7b3/)
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Seems to me the choice between older, rarer bikes that require more maintenance versus newer ones with performance advantages and reduced maintenance is a highly personal decision. You already know how to weight the objective aspects of that choice. I could tell you which direction I'd lean, but that's mostly irrelevant.
But i've noticed you posting a lot lately about riding the V7C. This could be just a "new to me" infatuation, or it could be reflecting that it is the one that calls to you the most to be ridden.
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I think this is maybe one of those choices only you can make. the best others can do is give you things to think about. I know selling my MKIV was a tough decision because I really loved riding it in the right kind of situation. What made it easier was that my riding had changed to more roads that were not practical for that bike and I felt i was abusing it when I did.
Another factor in all this is how much you like a more modern bike. I suspect the Nero is much more refined than the Sport or MK V. Do you find yourself choosing the Nero when you go out for a ride due to it's ride quality or other factor? I'm sure it would be hard to sell the first Guzzi you ever had and your Sport is a beauty, but if you find yourself not using it, then maybe it's time. This for me would be the basis of my decision. Seems like the Nero may be that bike for you based on the miles you have on it.
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I'm going to jump on the band wagon for keeping the Sport 1100, especially since you bought it new. I'm the second owner of my LeMans III and I would never get rid of it, short of a family catastropy. I learned to ride on my LeMans and also got my license on it. I've been all over the US east of the Mississippi and up into Canada as well. Some bikes are simply meant to be held on to, and I feel that your Sport is one of those.
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I've "officially" listed the V7C.
http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?action=classifieds;sa=view;id=1088
http://fayar.craigslist.org/mcy/3331379199.html
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/V7-Classic/i-gm4ptvB/0/M/DSCN9332-M.jpg)
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I've "officially" listed the V7C.
http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?action=classifieds;sa=view;id=1088
http://fayar.craigslist.org/mcy/3331379199.html
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/V7-Classic/i-gm4ptvB/0/M/DSCN9332-M.jpg)
And... The Sport breathes a sigh of relief - for now - as the youngest and most easily replaced gets voted off the island.
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any idea what $ you can get on a trade?
(re: Carl Allison's thread)
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any idea what $ you can get on a trade?
(re: Carl Allison's thread)
LOL! I'm more of a cash and carry sort of buyer...
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And... The Sport breathes a sigh of relief - for now - as the youngest and most easily replaced gets voted off the island.
Yeah. Despite the huge fun factor, a relatively easy choice.
Once this one sells, the next choice will be a tough one...
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LOL! I'm more of a cash and carry sort of buyer...
spread the love, man
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spread the love, man
First, you'll have to sell that suburban OKC mansion of yours. Then, sell the RV. Hop in the wayback machine and undo the kid thing, and maybe the wife thing. Then move over here to The Hills where the livin' is easy... Then you'll have a pocket full of them Yankee Dollars to spend on frivolities...
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Animals/2012-September-29-Erbie-Horse/i-pFnj7XR/0/M/DSCN4307-M.jpg)
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Dang, Rocker....when did you get that spiffy new skylight? Sweet! ;-T
Terry
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First, you'll have to sell that suburban OKC mansion of yours. Then, sell the RV. Hop in the wayback machine and undo the kid thing, and maybe the wife thing. Then move over here to The Hills where the livin' is easy... Then you'll have a pocket full of them Yankee Dollars to spend on frivolities...
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Animals/2012-September-29-Erbie-Horse/i-pFnj7XR/0/M/DSCN4307-M.jpg)
Dagnabbit! You're RIGHT!
This IS a lot easier - Maw, see if them Yankees sent our relief check yet, we's runnin' out of sugar fer the still ...
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i130/LannisSelz/DCP_0582.jpg)
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First, you'll have to sell that suburban OKC mansion of yours. Then, sell the RV. Hop in the wayback machine and undo the kid thing, and maybe the wife thing. Then move over here to The Hills where the livin' is easy... Then you'll have a pocket full of them Yankee Dollars to spend on frivolities...
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Animals/2012-September-29-Erbie-Horse/i-pFnj7XR/0/M/DSCN4307-M.jpg)
I might drown in that house!
(the roof's got a hole in it)
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Dagnabbit! You're RIGHT!
This IS a lot easier - Maw, see if them Yankees sent our relief check yet, we's runnin' out of sugar fer the still ...
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i130/LannisSelz/DCP_0582.jpg)
Hey! I have a LH sporterized Hawkins black powder like the one in the photo...in 54 caliber. Cabelas?
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that is sweet and i really like it, unfortunately my college student daughter ignored the lights on the dash of the 2008 scion and $4000 will be going for a replacement engine. so much for the autoshop class she took one semester in high school. Best of luck on the sales.
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Hey! I have a LH sporterized Hawkins black powder like the one in the photo...in 54 caliber. Cabelas?
From an old Monacan we knew as Kumquato. He found it next to a dead French fur trapper (the way he tells it); I swapped a red trade blanket and a jug of forty-rod for it .....
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With the V7 sold, the question of the hour is: What's next on the chopping block?
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With the V7 sold, the question of the hour is: What's next on the chopping block?
It's not burning gas back to Wisconsin, yet, but that thought has been on my mind...
I recieved a starter in the mail this week from our friends at Moto Guzzi Classics in Long Beach. I'll be putting it on the NC this week and getting the Sport's starter back to its rightful place. I'm thinking of biting the bullet and ordering a set of "Crack Proof" headers from Todd at GuzziTech that eliminate the troublesome front crossover. If someone wants the Nero Corsa, and at a good price, they'd better speak up before I fix all its ailments.
I rode the LeMans 1000 to work this afternoon.
Damn! I love them all!
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It's not burning gas back to Wisconsin, yet, but that thought has been on my mind...
I recieved a starter in the mail this week from our friends at MG Cycle. I'll be putting it on the NC this week and getting the Sport's starter back to its rightful place. I'm thinking of biting the bullet and ordering a set of "Crack Proof" headers from Todd at GuzziTech that eliminate the troublesome front crossover. If someone wants the Nero Corsa, and at a good price, they'd better speak up before I fix all its ailments.
I rode the LeMans 1000 to work this afternoon.
Damn! I love them all!
Glad to see you when push came to shove, you kept the IMO "real" Guzzis and dumped the toy.
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The Sport 1100 is probably out of play. I can only be the first owner of my first Guzzi one time.
Now, do I sell the Aprilia Guzzi, or the SEIMM Guzzi?
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The Sport 1100 is probably out of play. I can only be the first owner of my first Guzzi one time.
Now, do I sell the Aprilia Guzzi, or the SEIMM Guzzi?
Well, duh. You go selling the old one, it better be to me.. ~;
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Well, duh. You go selling the old one, it better be to me.. ~;
No NO NO. I'm the next care taker of that beautiful 1000. :+=copcar :bike :D
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The Sport 1100 is probably out of play. I can only be the first owner of my first Guzzi one time
AMEN Brother!!!
(...not trying to start a religion debate :pop ;D :D)
Hey, wait a minute, you said "probably"!?! :o
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The Sport 1100 is probably out of play. I can only be the first owner of my first Guzzi one time.
Now, do I sell the Aprilia Guzzi, or the SEIMM Guzzi?
Same here: My Sport was my first Guzzi and I was the first owner outa the crate and it's still stunning to me, uglified U.S. headlight not withstanding. As I told my wife when she asked what I'd do with it if/when I was unable to ride it: "I'll enjoy the hell out of looking at it as a lawn ornament."
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Glad to see you when push came to shove, you kept the IMO "real" Guzzis and dumped the toy.
Had to come back to this.
The Guzzi / Harley parallels are amazing sometimes. Small Block to Guzzi = Sportster to Harley. For whatever reason, neither gets a lot of respect from current owners the the marques' large displacement machines.
In 2009, just for kicks (and because it was available), I took a demo ride on the V7C at the MGNOC National in Salida Colorado.
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Colorado-2009-June-18-28/DSCN4772/575596429_dH2uE-M.jpg)
I did the same thing again in 2011 at Elkader Iowa. To say that these demo rides are "spirited" is an understatment. The PGA guys haul ass. On both demo rides, the group quickly broke up into an A group and a B group. On both rides, i was in the A group on the V7C and was able to hang in there quite comfortably with riders on 1200cc Guzzis. The little bikes can be ridden hard. There are witnesses. Some of them participate here on WG.
On top of that, the V7 line is affordable. They have classic good looks. They can be easily personalized by the owners. The bikes can be stripped-down cafe bikes, or dressed up touring bikes. They return decent fuel economy, and are a joy to ride.
No bike is going to satisfy everyone, but to call these smallblocks "toys" really is an insult hurled directly at Lino Tonti.
The longevity of the platform and of the V750 speaks for itself. So, too, the sales of the current smallblock line.
I really wanted to own and ride one of these just to prove the naysayers wrong. That's part of the reason for this thread. Sunday, Marcia and I rode "the little toy" over 170 miles, roundtrip, of twisty mountain roads to eat lunch at Oark General Store and enjoy the fall foliage. We did not hold anyone up. In fact, we overtook several motorcycles, several autos, and a Class 8 truck, mostly using "European Rules" passing techniques. The little bike performed admirably, and it will be a nice memory I'll keep after Paper takes the V7 home with him this weekend.
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/2012-October-14-Oark-Ride/i-tc3NLbz/1/M/DSCN4506-M.jpg)
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/2012-October-14-Oark-Ride/i-W9K68Wq/0/M/DSCN4487-M.jpg)
:BEER:
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Good choice. You tease.
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*SOLD*
Our man, Paper, is on the way home with the V7 as I write this...
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/2012-October-20-V7-Sale/i-zNqGJfS/0/M/DSCN9377-M.jpg)
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/2012-October-20-V7-Sale/i-pvhRNXS/0/M/DSCN9389-M.jpg)
He's a true enthusiast and is looking forward to finally riding a Guzzi to the Guzzi Rally in Wisconsin next year!
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So, four become three...
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/2012-October-20-V7-Sale/i-xRPdFGb/0/M/DSCN9375-M.jpg)
I guess it's time to ponder the next move...
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/2012-October-20-V7-Sale/i-GDNgSfv/0/M/DSCN9383-M.jpg)
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It took me two years, but the next bike is on the block.
http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?action=classifieds;sa=view;id=2624
The Nero Corsa is being offered for $3500.00
It's needing a little maintenance and servicing, but with winter closing in, it's the perfect project to keep you busy.
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Miscellaneous-bike-photos/i-T6WcMQf/0/XL/colorado%20iphone%20pix%20121-XL.jpg)
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Always liked the Nero .
Dusty
I like 'em all. Just can't keep 'em all...
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Which one is next ?
Dusty
LOL! Let's get the Nero out of the garage, first!
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Coming in late, I would have kept the smallblock. They really are an under estimated piece of kit. ideal for tootling around town, and yet they still tour just great.
But, you already knew that. ;) :D
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The Nero would be one of the last one for me to get rid of. Jus' sayin'.
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I like 'em all. Just can't keep 'em all...
Why not?
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That's a stupidly low price Mike. Is everything OK? ???
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That's a stupidly low price Mike. Is everything OK? ???
Yeah Pete. All is well. Just pricing it to sell. No one buys it quickly, it'll go to Houston for service. Then it won't be for sale.
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Why not?
Ha! As usual, you have a good point.
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Paging Unkept.. Mr. Unkept to the courtesy phone, please.. ;D
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If that doesn't sell this week, we should spank all the guys who said they wished they'd bought one.
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A Stelvio will do ( replace ) what a V7 and a Nero Corsa do ....so i will sell them both.
Between the Sport and the le mans it is not easy do decide which one has to go but if you must take a decision i would keep the Sport.
You are the original owner.
In the end you will have a do it all bike , the Stelvio , and a sport guzzi to use on track days...or whenever you feel like or just to look at it. ;D
Good luck .
Marco
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Paging Unkept.. Mr. Unkept to the courtesy phone, please.. ;D
I'd be on it if I weren't broke. :P Best of luck Rocker. :) I am sure somebody will give it a good home.
-Joe
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Why not?
:+1 ;D
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I can't believe someone hasn't bought this bike. (Yiddish accent) Such a Deal!
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No mad money and enjoying the fact I'm down to three bikes. I'd have to sell one to get this and I'm loath to part with any at the moment.
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I can't believe someone hasn't bought this bike. (Yiddish accent) Such a Deal!
I only wish it was here. Unfortunately I can't bring it in. I'd like a Spiney here. I might have a lead on a silver Redspine at a decent price but it's still about twice what Mike is asking.
Anyway, if Jude thought I was buying another bike she'd castrate me with a blunt knife! ;D
Pete
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Why not?
:+1 :+1 ;D
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If it were me-- and I have a similar stable here, I'd definitely keep the Sport as a reliable, thrilling, exotic and beautiful ride. Plus the nostalgia.
If investment value is next on the list I'd keep the LM 1000. Won't find another anytime soon!
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/osteoglossum/IMG_6067_zpsc49c1a7d.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/osteoglossum/media/IMG_6067_zpsc49c1a7d.jpg.html)
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Yeah. The Sport 1100 stays. Love it!
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Yeah. The Sport 1100 stays. Love it!
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I remember a couple of years ago you started bleating about selling it and several people, myself included, had to give you a bit of verbal curry about it :D
Pete
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That's a stupidly low price Mike. Is everything OK? ???
I know I am new here, but his is that a stupidly low price? Looks like an average or higher than average price considering the NADA value and the maintenance still needing to be done.
Quite a few hours will need to put into this bike, so I understand why it is for sale.
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Mike, I think you are keeping the right bike. Many seem to think the V7 is the one to keep. I agree it is a nice one, however if you end up missing it you can easily replace it. The sport ...not so much. Best of luck with the sale it sure is a nice bike.
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I know I am new here, but his is that a stupidly low price? Looks like an average or higher than average price considering the NADA value and the maintenance still needing to be done.
Quite a few hours will need to put into this bike, so I understand why it is for sale.
NADA means nothing on Guzzis. Yes, there are going to be some hours of labor, but if it's a labor of love it's no big deal.
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I know I am new here, but his is that a stupidly low price? Looks like an average or higher than average price considering the NADA value and the maintenance still needing to be done.
NADA is only one metric when it comes to vehicle value.
It is particularly questionable when you get to such uber-low production machines.
Not to mention there comes a point in a machine's value that the marketplace doesn't reflect actual VALUE.
What I mean by that is that EVEN IF NADA (or ebay) can give you an accurate picture of what the running bike should sell for in a sale/auction, it doesn't really reflect what it is WORTH in other ways:
* To the devotee/collector
and/or
* In parts to keep the other rare ones running.
Sadly when it comes to something like this or say a Buell these days it may in fact be worth more money in pieces, possibly a lot.
OR it is worth more to the rare individual who is actually looking for it.
In this later case, time is your ally, IF you don't "NEED" to get rid of it, which is what I suspect the case is here.
MIKE - for the record, I wasn't giving you guff, I was honestly asking WHY you feel the need to get rid of it now since I don't THINK it is a pressing "need" and is more of a "desire".
Mike, I think you are keeping the right bike. Many seem to think the V7 is the one to keep. I agree it is a nice one, however if you end up missing it you can easily replace it. The sport ...not so much. Best of luck with the sale it sure is a nice bike.
PSSSSSSSSSSSSST --- old thread, he sold the V7 last year....
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I know I am new here, but his is that a stupidly low price? Looks like an average or higher than average price considering the NADA value and the maintenance still needing to be done.
Quite a few hours will need to put into this bike, so I understand why it is for sale.
Don't consider the NADA or KBB when looking at Moto Guzzis. Especially the rarer special models. There is just not enough of a market for them to determine prices.
Sure, NADA and KBB are pretty good when it comes to figuring ballpark prices on Fords, Chevys, Toyotas, etc. It's just never real close on specialty Guzzis.
The bike is not for sale because it needs maintenance. The bike is for sale because I would like to sell it and make room for a new bike for touring. It just happens to need the maintenance.
$3500 is well below the bike's part out value, and is at a level where a non-mechanical buyer could drop it at a dealer to have the service performed, then still be in the bike at or below the low end for sales of these machines over the past couple years.
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If I was looking for a Rosso or Nero, I'd be all over it, but of course, I'm not.. <shrug>
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MIKE - for the record, I wasn't giving you guff, I was honestly asking WHY you feel the need to get rid of it now since I don't THINK it is a pressing "need" and is more of a "desire".
Yeah. Just the desire to buy a new 2015 something... Due to job and family I've not riding been riding very much over the past year. 2013 I took a 2,000 mile trip on the Nero Corsa, but probably didn't ride it a few hundered miles, otherwise. The other bikes in the stable were ridden lightly, as well. I only rode a few thousand miles total last year. Same for 2014. Lunch rides, and a little commuting. Not nearly enough. Don't really "need" three bikes, and have been losing the desire to have my own Guzzi Museum in my garage over the past couple years...
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Don't consider the NADA or KBB when looking at Moto Guzzis. Especially the rarer special models. There is just not enough of a market for them to determine prices.
Sure, NADA and KBB are pretty good when it comes to figuring ballpark prices on Fords, Chevys, Toyotas, etc. It's just never real close on specialty Guzzis.
The bike is not for sale because it needs maintenance. The bike is for sale because I would like to sell it and make room for a new bike for touring. It just happens to need the maintenance.
$3500 is well below the bike's part out value, and is at a level where a non-mechanical buyer could drop it at a dealer to have the service performed, then still be in the bike at or below the low end for sales of these machines over the past couple years.
Thank you for the clarification.
Question. My '10 V7 cafe classic only came to the states in '10. Mine only has 760 miles on it. So, if I got the bike for less than NADA value I got a steal instead of a fair deal?
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Thank you for the clarification.
Question. My '10 V7 cafe classic only came to the states in '10. Mine only has 760 miles on it. So, if I got the bike for less than NADA value I got a steal instead of a fair deal?
NADA means nothing on Guzzis.
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Thank you for the clarification.
Question. My '10 V7 cafe classic only came to the states in '10. Mine only has 760 miles on it. So, if I got the bike for less than NADA value I got a steal instead of a fair deal?
I just looked at NADA for Moto Guzzi 2004. Funny thing is, I did not see a Nero Corsa listed.
http://www.nadaguides.com/Motorcycles/2004/Moto-Guzzi
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Yeah. Just the desire to buy a new 2015 something... Due to job and family I've not riding been riding very much over the past year. 2013 I took a 2,000 mile trip on the Nero Corsa, but probably didn't ride it a few hundered miles, otherwise. The other bikes in the stable were ridden lightly, as well. I only rode a few thousand miles total last year. Same for 2014. Lunch rides, and a little commuting. Not nearly enough. Don't really "need" three bikes, and have been losing the desire to have my own Guzzi Museum in my garage over the past couple years...
I hear ya, BTDT...
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NADA means nothing on Guzzis
Chuck,
NADA does have a listing for the Rosso Corsa 2003.
http://www.nadaguides.com/Motorcycles/2003/Moto-Guzzi/V11-LEMANS-ROSSO-CORSA-1064cc/Values
Low Retail $3400 Average Retail $4475.
Tell you what, I'll be generous and give you $4500 for it.
What do you say?
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I just looked at NADA for Moto Guzzi 2004. Funny thing is, I did not see a Nero Corsa listed.
http://www.nadaguides.com/Motorcycles/2004/Moto-Guzzi
Surprise surprise.. ;D Lemme give you the chuckinindianaguide . Any Ohlins V11 variant is worth $6K plus or minus depending on condition.
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Chuck,
NADA does have a listing for the Rosso Corsa 2003.
http://www.nadaguides.com/Motorcycles/2003/Moto-Guzzi/V11-LEMANS-ROSSO-CORSA-1064cc/Values
Low Retail $3400 Average Retail $4475.
Tell you what, I'll be generous and give you $4500 for it.
What do you say?
I say my momma didn't raise no foolish children. ;D Well...maybe one.
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Lemme give you the chuckinindianaguide .
Can those be purchased at Barnes & Noble? ;D
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Just the desire to buy a new 2015 something...
Any ideas as to what you're going to get? Is there a short list or do you know?
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Any ideas as to what you're going to get? Is there a short list or do you know?
Well, I've narrowed it down. And, back to my original thought of a couple years ago!
Basically, I have a desire for a light standard for commuting and an ADVbike for touring. I also have a twinge for something American. So, I've been conflicted.
-H-D has reissued the Lowrider. Looks good, but didn't pass the sit test at the dealership when I realized I would need shocks/seat/pegs/handlebars to make it more like I'd want. It's on the heavy end of bikes I'd want to ride and the cruiser-ish seating and suspension would require more mods than I care to hassle with. So, I scratched it off my list. Though it is a nice machine.
-Indian Scout. Looks good. Like the company. Like the engine. Like the look. Nice bike. Unfortunately, it didn't pass the road test. Needs too much work on the ergos to satisfy me. Was hoping it would be more standard, but it is not. And from close inspection, does not appear easy to make it that way.
-Guzzi California 1400. Really nice bike, but like the two above, too cruiser-ish. Needs too many changes to ergos, and the short touring range got it marked off my list, again. Give me a bench seat, standard pegs, and fuel in all the empty space behind the tank side covers, and I'd be more interested.
-Guzzi V7. I like them. I owned a 2010 V7C. To make it an all-around bike for me, it needs more power and better suspension. I'd gladly pay for it, but like the Bonneville, I don't think it's destined to have an up-spec hot rod version with premium suspension anytime soon. The "II" is interesting, but without more motor, it won't make the cut.
-Guzzi standard based on the Bellagio chassis. Man! There have been some great customs over the past few years, showing what could be done with this platform! It's got modern rear suspension, could wear the Griso's fork, could wear classic bodywork. Could be a great all-around standard. Guzzi could have a homerun on its hands with something like this, but I doubt we'll see it on the podium at EICMA here in the next few weeks. And, I'm no custom bike builder...
-Guzzi Stelvio NTX. Just like I drive a Chevrolet Suburban for what it can do when needed, the Stelvio is one heck of a two-wheeled SUV. Not what I want to ride everyday, so probably wouldn't commute on it, but a Stelvio would fill the bill for most of my weekend and week-long riding. It's comfortable 2-up, and most of my riding over the past few years has been 2-up. It has long travel suspension, so rough roads and gravel roads are no problem. So, if I had to pick a new bike today, it would probably be an NTX.
But, I'm not going to do anything until after the first of the year. And, if the Nero is still in the garage, I'll spend my Stelvio money on the Nero, instead...
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Quite the list of dis-satisfaction :o :(
Guess I should feel good that I'm easy to please. :D
Good luck man...
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Quite the list of dis-satisfaction :o :(
Guess I should feel good that I'm easy to please. :D
Good luck man...
Ha! He asked, and I just happened to have a few minutes to type out my thought process over the past month, or so...
FWIW, I've never been dissatisfied with my spine-frame bikes! I guess that's why I've had one for 17 years and one for almost 9 years.
Bars, Seats, and Pegs are stock on both. And 75,000 miles of riding behind them. They're perfect Guzzis!!!
I "liked" all of the bikes mentioned. Just didn't "love" them like I did the bikes I own. Hard to shell out $12k to $18k on something I don't "love". It was easy to shell it out for the Guzzis (and the Triumph) I've bought over the years. Especially the three I currently own.
:BEER:
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PSSSSSSSSSSSSST --- old thread, he sold the V7 last year....
I got that Kev, seems several in the thread were pushing V7, I was just giving positive reinforcement to his plan. The Nero is the bike on the block now, sweet but the sport is the one he should keep since he bought new etc. The V7 can easily be replaced if missed, the next few....not so.
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Well, I've narrowed it down. And, back to my original thought of a couple years ago!
Basically, I have a desire for a light standard for commuting and an ADVbike for touring. I also have a twinge for something American. So, I've been conflicted.
-H-D has reissued the Lowrider. Looks good, but didn't pass the sit test at the dealership when I realized I would need shocks/seat/pegs/handlebars to make it more like I'd want. It's on the heavy end of bikes I'd want to ride and the cruiser-ish seating and suspension would require more mods than I care to hassle with. So, I scratched it off my list. Though it is a nice machine.
How about a stock, basic Super Glide?
Unlike the Lowrider, the 'Glide shouldn't need too many changes and/or $$ to make it into what you want it to be.
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Bars, Seats, and Pegs are stock on both. And 75,000 miles of riding behind them. They're perfect Guzzis!!!
Spend the money on the Nero, make it like new, and enjoy it for another 9 years and umpteen miles. ;-T
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I know where you're head's at. I'd like to get something a little more conducive to everyday riding/commuting myself, something that's also a little easier on my wife when we're two up. As the years go by my three lend themselves less and less to daily riding. I just don't want to give any of mine up..... ;D
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At my peak I had 4 bikes about 6 years ago. Now only 1.
Do the NTX.
After my quick 2.5K miles over the last month or so since I got it.. it is the truck of motorcycles.
She needs some tweaking for me.. like the seat, I can only do about 1.25 hrs on it.
But overall.. its a great value.. I see it as anything from gravel roads up... that leaves only needing a small dirt bike to beat on if I desire to go back into single track. But other than that.. it has it covered.
In other words.. One bike, low total cost of ownership.. little maintenance vs many bikes etc etc. You know the drill.
That's my 2 cents.
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Spend the money on the Nero, make it like new, and enjoy it for another 9 years and umpteen miles. ;-T
yep
(also much cheaper than a newer bike of which none have been identified to be as good as the Nero)
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Right now I have 5 bikes in the garage to choose from, since the NTX had a deer strike and I'm waiting on results from inspection (totalled or repairable).
All 5 of the remaining are very different from each other, but when riding them for distance, commutes, or short 100 mile pleasure rides I always find myself thinking the NTX would do this or that better. Rarely does it go the other way. Yes it is heavy but at speed handles whatever is thrown at it (gravel roads on up) very well overall. And I have never really had any issues with it's manners at parking lot speeds. Not going to turn like a 250 dirt bike, but as good as any road bike I have now.
I've been through the "new bike shopping" stuff in case the Stelvio is totalled. The short list of replacements are the Triumph Explorer and Tiger 800 XC, KTM 1190 Adventure, Yamaha Super Tenere, the new Suzuki Vstrom 1000 and Kawasaki Versys 1000 (both yet to be seen). But when making the spreadsheet of what I want in a bike, the reasons for buying the NTX a year ago keep sending me back to the Stelvio.
Now I've moved from wishing my Stelvio is totaled to almost hoping it can be repaired back to how it was before the deer strike. For me it is an all around, do it all bike that is usually my first choice for riding in the morning. I originally got it as my long distance touring bike.
Mike, good luck on changing out bikes in your stable. Choices and experiencing different bikes can be a good thing.
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yep
(also much cheaper than a newer bike of which none have been identified to be as good as the Nero)
I'm with John on this. I had the new bike hots, and got the Norge. Should have kept the Centauro. ;D I've seen nothing new that I would rather have than what I have, including a new small block vs the Lario. I'm part of the problem, I guess.. ;)
I guess it all depends on whether you want to do the work to make the Nero like new again. It's a *big* project to do that...
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What about a Buell Ulysses XB12XT ? That would sorta straddle your HD/NTX interests, and wouldn't cost as much coin, especially if you change your mind later?
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I guess it all depends on whether you want to do the work to make the Nero like new again. It's a *big* project to do that...
Cosmetically, the bike is very good to excellent. Clutch would be a big project for me, but not for someone who has done it.
I've been using it for commuting to work, so it's not like it's ready for the scrap yard!
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What about a Buell Ulysses XB12XT ? That would sorta straddle your HD/NTX interests, and wouldn't cost as much coin, especially if you change your mind later?
While I like Erik Buell, and appreciate his bikes, I've not wanted to own one since the tube frame bikes. So, that's not even on my radar. Just not my thing.
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Cosmetically, the bike is very good to excellent. Clutch would be a big project for me, but not for someone who has done it.
I've been using it for commuting to work, so it's not like it's ready for the scrap yard!
Like I said, I'd be on it like a chicken on a June bug at that price.. if I wanted one. <shrug> If I were you, I'd put it on the bay starting at $3500, accurately describe it, no reserve. You'll find the actual value in a week or so, and I'll bet it's higher than what you will take.
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Sounds like the Ducati Multistrada 1200 S Granturismo would fit your bill.
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Sounds like the Ducati Multistrada 1200 S Granturismo would fit your bill.
Nah. Nice bike, but not my style.
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Rocker59,
What windshield did you put on the v7? It looks nice on it. Was it effective on the highway:?
Joe
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Rocker59,
What windshield did you put on the v7? It looks nice on it. Was it effective on the highway:?
Joe
The previous owner installed it. Givi A620. I worked really well, but I didn't like it. Most of the time the bike was with me, it had no shield installed. I liked it much better that way.
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Nah. Nice bike, but not my style.
Something tells me there's a Nero Corsa in your future..... ;D
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Something tells me there's a Nero Corsa in your future..... ;D
LOL! People are strange. I have the feeling that if I'd offered it at $0.00, people would be wanting me to deliver it!
The Ducati is interesting, but I'm not sure I want a 150bhp testastretta engined touring bike with off pavement pretentions. And, for me, it's farther to a Ducati dealer than it is to a Guzzi dealer. And I know I'd be taking a testastretta in for dealership maintenance, rather than fumble through it myself.
The Scrambler sure looks like fun, though!
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LOL! People are strange. I have the feeling that if I'd offered it at $0.00, people would be wanting me to deliver it!
I hear ya, I experienced the same thing when I was selling my HD FXSTB.
I'm not sold on the Multistrada myself, aesthetically speaking, but everything I've read or heard about it is that if you can only have one motorcycle it IS the ticket. As far as dealer service goes I guess I'm somewhat spoiled having 3 Ducati and 3 Moto Guzzi dealerships (plus two Moto Guzzi independent shops) within 2 hours of me, the closest only being about 30-45 minutes away.
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I hear ya, I experienced the same thing when I was selling my HD FXSTB.
I'm not sold on the Multistrada myself, aesthetically speaking, but everything I've read or heard about it is that if you can only have one motorcycle it IS the ticket. As far as dealer service goes I guess I'm somewhat spoiled having 3 Ducati and 3 Moto Guzzi dealerships (plus two Moto Guzzi independent shops) within 2 hours of me, the closest only being about 30-45 minutes away.
220 miles to the closest Ducati dealer. 350 miles to the closest Ducati dealer I'd prefer to use. And I live in the middle of the country!
120 miles to the closest Guzzi dealer.
Part of the reason I put the HD Lowrider and Indian Scout at the top of my "check 'em out list" was that I have dealers 20 miles away for both.
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Mike,
If dealers are a priority, nothing touches HD.
BUT, more and more Triumph is expanding.
That, coupled with extreme reliability might make one a right fit for you.
I don't remember, but was one on your demo list of sorrow?
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I haven't been riding as much the past couple of years either. Life changes, you know.
Looks like I'm selling my Eldo, which is a handsome machine, but I haven't been riding it much at all. Sold my CB400F and Multistrada 620 last year. I'll be left with 4 Guzzis.
The new V7 II looks very interesting. The Duc scrambler, too, but I didn't like messing with the chain on the MTS and although I did my own work, service would have been very expensive--I think it would have been close to $300 to set the valves.
Rich A
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Mike,
If dealers are a priority, nothing touches HD.
BUT, more and more Triumph is expanding.
That, coupled with extreme reliability might make one a right fit for you.
I don't remember, but was one on your demo list of sorrow?
No Triumph dealer around here. Nearest is also the nearest Guzzi dealer
120 miles. The dealer thing was just a thought. Would sure be nice to have one 20 miles away.
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LOL! People are strange. I have the feeling that if I'd offered it at $0.00, people would be wanting me to deliver it!
You know this group well. :D
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Rocker its just not fair. After tons of questions and following your posts I bought a low mileage lemans this summer to do some sport touring on and now you are selling yours....seems lame. I think you should keep it and do lots of restoration work with pics and threads so that I may be entertained! I guess you are way older than me and its time for a couch on wheels, cruiser.
Good luck with you future bike search and here is a pic of mine that has 1800 miles on it.
(http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt42/allendamon/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_075510.jpg) (http://s596.photobucket.com/user/allendamon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_075510.jpg.html)
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Rocker its just not fair. After tons of questions and following your posts I bought a low mileage lemans this summer to do some sport touring on and now you are selling yours....seems lame. I think you should keep it and do lots of restoration work with pics and threads so that I may be entertained! I guess you are way older than me and its time for a couch on wheels, cruiser.
Good luck with you future bike search and here is a pic of mine that has 1800 miles on it.
(http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt42/allendamon/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_075510.jpg) (http://s596.photobucket.com/user/allendamon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_075510.jpg.html)
Rocker , first time I have heard you called old in this group ;D DL , you two are about the same age , Mike just has a life outside of MCs , unlike most of the rest of us ::) Nice bike ;-T
Dusty
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Dusty, I am all for calling Rocker "old". Anyone doing away with a LeMans and looking for a Harley is "old".
But he's too good a guy for me to ridicule further, not to mention the glass house I live in.
;)
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Rocker its just not fair. After tons of questions and following your posts I bought a low mileage lemans this summer to do some sport touring on and now you are selling yours....seems lame. I think you should keep it and do lots of restoration work with pics and threads so that I may be entertained! I guess you are way older than me and its time for a couch on wheels, cruiser.
Good luck with you future bike search and here is a pic of mine that has 1800 miles on it.
(http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt42/allendamon/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_075510.jpg) (http://s596.photobucket.com/user/allendamon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_075510.jpg.html)
Dl.............. very nice Rosso....... see boys, there out there!!!! Now if I could just find that owner of the equivilant in a RM to PM me. :pop
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Dl.............. very nice Rosso....... see boys, there out there!!!! Now if I could just find that owner of the equivilant in a RM to PM me. :pop
Not an RC.
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Looks like the Nero will be headed to The Land of Lincoln in the morning. I'll update the thread when the deal is done.
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Rocker its just not fair. After tons of questions and following your posts I bought a low mileage lemans this summer to do some sport touring on and now you are selling yours....seems lame. I think you should keep it and do lots of restoration work with pics and threads so that I may be entertained! I guess you are way older than me and its time for a couch on wheels, cruiser.
Good luck with you future bike search and here is a pic of mine that has 1800 miles on it.
(http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt42/allendamon/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_075510.jpg) (http://s596.photobucket.com/user/allendamon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_075510.jpg.html)
Nice looking bike you've got there! Get back with me when you've racked up nine years, 40,000 miles, and about half the US States on it. ;)
You might be ready for something new, too! :BEER:
Love the Nero Corsa. It's been a great motorcycle. I'm sure it will be a great motorcycle for the next owner, a well known member here.
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Pete R getting it ready for his next US adventure? ;)
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Our very own RatGuzzi is headed back to Illinois, as I write this, with the Nero Corsa snuggly packed in his van.
Says to look for it in Killboy photos at The Dragon, come springtime.
:bike
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Well, I've narrowed it down. And, back to my original thought of a couple years ago!
-Guzzi Stelvio NTX. Just like I drive a Chevrolet Suburban for what it can do when needed, the Stelvio is one heck of a two-wheeled SUV. Not what I want to ride everyday, so probably wouldn't commute on it, but a Stelvio would fill the bill for most of my weekend and week-long riding. It's comfortable 2-up, and most of my riding over the past few years has been 2-up. It has long travel suspension, so rough roads and gravel roads are no problem. So, if I had to pick a new bike today, it would probably be an NTX.
Congrats on selling the Nero - and to a fellow Guzzisti no less! The best way to sell a Guzzi.
From an earlier post, I guess it will be towards the first of the year before a decision is made for a new stable entry. Definitely, absolutely get some quality seat time prior to purchase. I totally get where you are coming from in the above comments - they were very similar to mine when I bought my then new '11 Stelvio. In theory - and in practice for most folks here it seems - the ADV bike category is the SUV of bikedom. Having said that, it's not for everyone and it's also not something you're gonna find out on a 10 mile test drive down the road so try and get some serious seat time on one before making your decision. As I've stated again and again in different threads on the board here, if you're gonna buy an ADV bike, I still think the Stelvio is the pick of the litter. Fantastic motorcycle. I was infinitely infatuated with mine when I first got it. But, lots of reasons I decided to sell the Stelvio after about 4k miles of driving and I have not even remotely been sorry about it. It went to a great guy who fit the ADV mold more than me. I kept the Stone with aftermarket seat for 2-up rides and travelling, bought a Street Triple to satisfy the other side of my riding. Oddly, the Striple has proven more comfortable and even enjoyable FOR ME than and ADV bike. I'm just saying the whole idea and theory behind "ADV" SUV bikes is great and proves true for many, but not all. You're a much smarter bike fellow than me so I'm sure you've factored all this already into the mix, but I'm just gonna echo it here.
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Our very own RatGuzzi is headed back to Illinois, as I write this, with the Nero Corsa snuggly packed in his van.
Says to look for it in Killboy photos at The Dragon, come springtime.
:bike
That's going to be a *lot* of holes to drill..
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That's going to be a *lot* of holes to drill..
:D ;D
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Hence the EV he's selling.
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No Triumph dealer around here. Nearest is also the nearest Guzzi dealer
120 miles. The dealer thing was just a thought. Would sure be nice to have one 20 miles away.
I think you've told me that before but I forgot.
Funny cause they're thick as thieves around here.
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That's great news! I was just giving you crap rocker to try to shame you into rebuilding your bike. I just got to the party with my Lemans. Hope to do some trips on it.
Hopefully Rodekyll will do some build threads!
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*Thinning the Herd* Four bikes to two. (or ONE!)
So, it was funny, but when I offered the Nero Corsa up for sale, I had more offers to buy my 1991 LeMans 1000 CI than I did to buy the Nero Corsa!
A couple were "send me the money serious". I'd previously visited with our own dsrdave via email about the bike, and he reminded me he was still interested and ready to pull the trigger. So, in a moment of weakness, I agreed to a sale. His transport picks the bike up tomorrow...
dsrdave will now have a full compliment of LeManses in his growing collection. You've seen his work in previous posts ( http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=72840.0 ) and it's my understanding he intends to detail the '91 out over the winter to the same standards as he has his other machines.
So, as a bit of a ritual, I took the bike out for a final ride this afternoon to enjoy a beautiful fall day. Then, cleaned it up real nice, getting it ready for its trip North to Wisconsin tomorrow:
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/1991-LM-V/i-fjDbg9r/0/XL/DSCN9945-02-1-XL.jpg)
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/1991-LM-V/i-FRFhJLp/0/XL/mayfield%20store%20-%201-XL.jpg)
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/1991-LM-V/i-hTLfBRj/0/X2/20141109_163807-X2.jpg)
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/1991-LM-V/i-kbsrHcs/0/X2/20141109_170714-X2.jpg)
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wow.
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Well dang it Mike , it is going to a good home at least . So... what are you gonna buy ?
Dusty
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Yeah, he'll be a good keeper..
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So, in a moment of weakness, I agreed to a sale. His transport picks the bike up tomorrow...
(http://www.greatamericanink.com/images/speechless-lrg.jpg)
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She'll be missed by her cousin in Missouri :-\ :'(
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag65/guzzistajohn/tal12_zpsef583339.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/guzzistajohn/media/tal12_zpsef583339.jpg.html)
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I didn't see that coming. :o
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So... what are you gonna buy ?
Dusty
:+1
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So... what are you gonna buy ?
Dusty
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Nothing right now. Will decide on something in the spring.
I'll just enjoy the Sport 1100 for now.
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I'm out of town till thurs. Can't wait to get home!!!!!
Dave.
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I'm out of town till thurs. Can't wait to get home!!!!!
Dave.
I forgot to say a BIG thank you to mike for helping make this happen!!!!!
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I forgot to say a BIG thank you to mike for helping make this happen!!!!!
Hey! Don't forget me.. ;D I was the original savior.. ;D :BEER: Poor thing was covered with dust and neglect.
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Yes, I appreciate both of you being good conseratores of a great bike. Its getting tough finding unmolested original bikes. Thanks Dave.
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The Shape of Things to Come...
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Miscellaneous-bike-photos/i-TZfdDdc/0/X2/20141110_194740-X2.jpg)
A fellow could do much worse than having one of these in his garage. Strange, but I think it's been March of 1998 since I only had one bike in the stable.
It will give me some time to catch up on a few maintenance items and time to just enjoy the Sport 1100.
:bike
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A great bike, and your chronicles inspired my purchase. I had a lovely ride on mine yesterday.
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A great bike, and your chronicles inspired my purchase. I had a lovely ride on mine yesterday.
;-T
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Nah. Nice bike, but not my style.
I know you said not your style but the new version sure is neat.
http://www.ducati.com/bikes/multistrada/index.do
I can appreciate your statement about getting the Sports maintenance issues etc. taken care of now that the others are gone. The only reason my Sport isn't back on the road is the Daytona purchase sucked me dry then last winters budget was monopolized by the 900SS. Often what starts out as a small project to get out of the way before working on the Sport grows into full blown tear downs etc.......and with Guzzi's and Ducati's those seem to be never ending. ::)
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(http://www.greatamericanink.com/images/speechless-lrg.jpg)
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Well here it is, spring is 2/3 gone. Still thinking on what to do about another bike.
No, I probably won't go with the Indian like I was teasing about in the "thinking about" thread. Just too expensive. Don't want to spend $20,000 + on a 2nd motorcycle (that isn't an MGS-01 ;) )
So this week I've been pondering a California 1400. I really like the upcoming Eldorado. Not sure about the seating, though. And not sure about the price. I'm not really into the Touring or the Audace, but maybe the Custom.
There seem to be some '13 and '14 unsold Cal 14 Customs sitting at dealers. A few tweaks and I might be able to be happy with one: Corbin seat, Mistral exhaust, Hepco + Becker C-Bow luggage. Oh, and a Chet trailer hitch, of course, to pull my fridge trailer! (Kinda the point of getting a 'big bike').
I'm guessing that there will be some good deals on those leftover Cal 14 Customs as the Eldorado and Audace hit the floors. Anyone have any ideas what the Cal 14 Customs are actually selling for right now? I know there's a $1500 incentive from Guzzi. Are dealers dealing down from there on the leftovers?
I don't recall off-hand, are there any glaring technical differences between the '13, '14, and '15 California 1400 electronics or mechanics? Any upgrades the factory has made.
:bike
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:pop
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Ahh, the new bike hots. Glad I don't get that any more.. ;D Well, maybe if they'd come out with a V12 LeMans..
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.....There seem to be some '13 and '14 unsold Cal 14 Customs sitting at dealers. A few tweaks and I might be able to be happy with one: Corbin seat, Mistral exhaust, Hepco + Becker C-Bow luggage......
I'm guessing that there will be some good deals on those leftover Cal 14 Customs as the Eldorado and Audace hit the floors. Anyone have any ideas what the Cal 14 Customs are actually selling for right now? I know there's a $1500 incentive from Guzzi. Are dealers dealing down from there on the leftovers ......?
All the dealers reading this are thinking "Dammit, another one of those bottom-feeders ....." :D On the other hand, selling a bike is better than not selling a bike .... ;-T
Lannis
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All the dealers reading this are thinking "Dammit, another one of those bottom-feeders ....." :D On the other hand, selling a bike is better than not selling a bike .... ;-T
Lannis
...and they're just sitting there.
You gotta have a few bottom feeders. After the top feeders buy, the leftovers have to go somewhere.
It's just a thought. Not my first choice, but might be fun for awhile. A black and carbon fiber Cal 14 Custom would be pretty cool.
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sent you a PM Rock.
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There were several Cali14s at RPM. I might go to see the Motus demo, and during all the hubbub, get a test ride on the Cali14 or one of its brothers.
I'm studying how to become a bottom feeder! Getting damn expensive having to eat the difference of buying new and selling low.
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When I was considering a 1400T, RPM provided me the best quote.
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We really liked that dealership, and they treated us very good. They also sell KTMs, hmmm.
Just back from the back surgeon today (only x-ray and talk) and guess I am getting old, may be time to think of slowing down. The dirt bike will go first, as much as I like it in Colorado with friends.
Pretty humbling to see all the folks in wheelchairs, walkers, canes and slings. I'm still in the ibuprofen and exercise stage tho, so thankful for that.
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We really liked that dealership, and they treated us very good. They also sell KTMs, hmmm.
Just back from the back surgeon today (only x-ray and talk) and guess I am getting old, may be time to think of slowing down. The dirt bike will go first, as much as I like it in Colorado with friends.
Pretty humbling to see all the folks in wheelchairs, walkers, canes and slings. I'm still in the ibuprofen and exercise stage tho, so thankful for that.
Absolutely. Be thankful, and keep on truckin.. ;-T I'm not doing ibuprofen yet. ;D
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We really liked that dealership, and they treated us very good. They also sell KTMs, hmmm.
Just back from the back surgeon today (only x-ray and talk) and guess I am getting old, may be time to think of slowing down. The dirt bike will go first, as much as I like it in Colorado with friends.
Pretty humbling to see all the folks in wheelchairs, walkers, canes and slings. I'm still in the ibuprofen and exercise stage tho, so thankful for that.
Well, I'm in sort of the same situation, though the MRI didn't show rotator cuff damage. I see the sports doc tomorrow, and I think we'll be talking about (from memory) big head bicep muscle(s)) Lots of Aleve has kept pain to a minimum, but I still cannot lift arm straight out from my side more than 15-20 degrees .... then it just won't move any more. Hopefully, it's some form of tendinitis that can be fixed with a walloping shot of cortisone.
Either way, I think the Griso may have to go, maybe even the beloved 1200 Sport. The Griso riding position and sportier suspension is just a bit too much for me, and the Sport is quite a boat anchor to move in and out of the garage. Hate to admit it, but maybe it's time to explore the upcoming V7 II. Love the looks of the Racer, but ergo wise, probably not for me, if I'm trying to unload my arms and shoulders. Maybe a Stone in olive drab or whatever Guzzi calls it. I've generally not been too fired up over the small blocks, but a buddy of mine who owned a Breva 750 ran me a merry race, whether it was on the flats, but especially through the twisties. That little bike would haul! However, I will give the Triumph Tiger 800 (lower version with mag wheels) a try, also.
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NEW Eldorado maybe?
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Kern16 ... was the new Eldo question to me? I'm not attracted to cruisers, though Guzzi's approach to that platform has more appeal to me than most others. Also, not prepared to put quite that much $$ into a new ride. I do owe it to myself to take a C1400 out sometime for a test .... but, damn, that is one big machine!
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NEW Eldorado maybe?
Eldorado is showing MSRP of $15,990 on the MG USA website. And, I'm kind of digging it. Especially if the Corbin seat for the other Cal 14s would fit.
Cal 14 Custom $15,490 MSRP. '14 and older bikes have $1,500 rebate and $500 parts voucher. Plus the dealer might have some motivation to come down some more. That's my thought, anyway. If a person could buy a leftover Cal 14 Custom in the $12,500 neighborhood, it would leave some money for accessories vs. paying full pop for an Eldorado.
There are some things I like about the Eldo: Fenders, Tail Light, wheels/tires, pinstriping. I don't like the seat or the handlebars. Cal Custom bars and a Corbin seat for a Cal 14 Custom/Touring (if it will fit) would fix those niggles.
There are some things I like about the Cal Custom: handlebars, cast wheels, accessory interchangeability with the Cal 14 Touring. I (really, really) don't like the tail lights or the rear fender.
Like I said, just random thoughts. I'd like to see an Eldorado in person, and visit with a dealer about the OTD pricing on a leftover Custom. I may have to get over to Tulsa soon...
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Hey Rocker.......... don't think you will be disappointed, those Cali 14s are pretty nice asphalt eaters.
Let me know if it all works out.
Ciao. 8)
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Kern16 ... was the new Eldo question to me? I'm not attracted to cruisers, though Guzzi's approach to that platform has more appeal to me than most others. Also, not prepared to put quite that much $$ into a new ride. I do owe it to myself to take a C1400 out sometime for a test .... but, damn, that is one big machine!
I feel the same about the cruisers and still looking at the V7II also. I will demo the big boys tho.
I knew rocker59 would come with the poop on these bikes, that's why I was tagging along. :bow
Talking about changing bikes this drastically is one thing, doing it is another, we will see.
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YES.....
sorry forgot to put your quote first.
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Eldorado is showing MSRP of $15,990 on the MG USA website. And, I'm kind of digging it. Especially if the Corbin seat for the other Cal 14s would fit.
Cal 14 Custom $15,490 MSRP. '14 and older bikes have $1,500 rebate and $500 parts voucher. Plus the dealer might have some motivation to come down some more. That's my thought, anyway. If a person could buy a leftover Cal 14 Custom in the $12,500 neighborhood, it would leave some money for accessories vs. paying full pop for an Eldorado.
There are some things I like about the Eldo: Fenders, Tail Light, wheels/tires, pinstriping. I don't like the seat or the handlebars. Cal Custom bars and a Corbin seat for a Cal 14 Custom/Touring (if it will fit) would fix those niggles.
There are some things I like about the Cal Custom: handlebars, cast wheels, accessory interchangeability with the Cal 14 Touring. I (really, really) don't like the tail lights or the rear fender.
Like I said, just random thoughts. I'd like to see an Eldorado in person, and visit with a dealer about the OTD pricing on a leftover Custom. I may have to get over to Tulsa soon...
I've made the mistake of buying the cheaper bike I kinda wanted (shopping with my head) over the more expensive one that I actually wanted (shopping with my heart) before....
I feel the same way as you about the differences between the Custom and Eldo.... and I think I'd buy the Eldo and make what changes I wanted over time.