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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kev m on January 30, 2013, 08:50:00 AM
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I've always preferred to have some form of crash bar or cylinder protector on my bikes and they've paid for themselves at times.
But as much as I don't mind the look of crash bars on some bikes I've started to embrace the more minimalist look of frame sliders in some applications.
Considering that my new Stone is going to be decked out with HBs, I easily could have gotten away with crash bars. But I saw some sliders from Over Racing in Japan and thought to myself WOW, that's looks pretty good. I bet a number of the V7R guys would like this solution, ESPECIALLY since the new valve cover design precludes the use of the head mounted guards.
They're available in one or two different styles/mounts. My wife Jenn decided to order a set for me for X-mass and opted for the slightly more expensive but beefier set. I think along with an inexpensive pair of goggles (ordered so she'd make the free shipping) they came to about $400. Not a cheap solution, but again, kinda neat - smaller, lighter.
This is nicest – AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE REDUCED THE PRICE SLIGHTLY FROM - $352 - to $311
http://japan.webike.net/products/20310046.html
These are the cheapest at $275 (but they don't look at sturdy)
http://www.satoracing.com/framesliders_motoguzziV7.htm
Ironically the first guys also sell the same ones and have reduced their price on that too from $314 to $278 (almost the same as Sato)
http://japan.webike.net/products/20890873.html
Shortly after installation I realized that the NEW SINGLE THROTTLE BODY MOTOR appeared to have thicker/wider jugs and therefore the stock width of the sliders which was FINE for the dual-throttle body motors might be insufficient for the new V7 Stone/Special/Racer editions.
My solution was relatively simple - I had a local machine shop cut me two new spacers about 25mm in length and the same thickness as the center part of the slider mounts, I think it was about 30mm in diameter. Along with a longer mounting bolt it extended the sliders just enough to better protect the cylinders but helped to keep them from becoming a visual eyesore. I'll have to take a better photo of the overall bike to show how they still seem to disappear into the overall look.
I'm pretty happy with the results.
Here are some shots detailing the before and after changes to the mounts. Please excuse the poor photography and quickly cobbled-together photoshop. It was the easiest way to get multipe shots uploaded to one source. Let me know if anyone has any questions.
(http://www.gigabikes.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10081/OverRacingSliders.jpg)
Here's a close-up 3/4 shot after the spacers were installed.
(http://www.gigabikes.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10081/RightSideWthSpacerB.jpg)
Here's an overall with the spacers were installed that gives you an idea how small the sliders really are visually.
(http://www.gigabikes.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10081/IMG_20130520_155846_092aa.jpg)
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I'm sweet on the Tangerine and White Special but after seeing a White Stone in the box and now your bike again; damn it's pretty.
I do have some concerns, perhaps unfounded, that in a slide, the extra long bolt will increase bending forces on the slider and bend it back. It won't be as stiff.
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I'm sweet on the Tangerine and White Special but after seeing a White Stone in the box and now your bike again; damn it's pretty.
I'm fond of it. ;-T
I do have some concerns, perhaps unfounded, that in a slide, the extra long bolt will increase bending forces on the slider and bend it back. It won't be as stiff.
Nothing's full-proof.
BUT, we only added 25mm here - and there are definitely longer levers out there that have survived more force. I'm thinking the highway peg mounts on some Cali models like my old Jackal.
and I did make sure the new longer bolts are Grade 5 (not sure what the original was).
Not to mention the alternate brand slider I listed above looks like is uses a much thinner mount - so we're probably still ahead of that.
I suspect we're fine, and if not, well, we were in for worse anyway.
Either way I hope I never find out.
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Nice work Kev. Quality product.
Like everyone I don't *plan* to crash mine - but useful protection in the garage and driveway with the new head design!
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Calling Joe Kenny :+=copcar I bet he could do it better and a might cheaper
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Calling Joe Kenny :+=copcar I bet he could do it better and a might cheaper
The whole slider or just the spacer?
I would believe the spacer, but hey, mine's done lol.
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Nice bike, Kev.
Wouldn't a slide on those affect the frame?
So, then the question would be what's most expensive; a new head or a new frame....
I've been down on my Breva, not at speed, though. The cost was a scratched mirror and a slightly bend side stand tread-on-gadget-whatever. Can't find a word even in own language.. (Hello again, Mr Alzheimer!) ::) ;D
At lower speeds probably the steering bar and other protruding gadgets will take the impact. I doubt anything will do at higher speeds.
Nice and expensive looking sliders, tho. :)
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Nice bike, Kev.
Wouldn't a slide on those affect the frame?
So, then the question would be what's most expensive; a new head or a new frame....
This is the eternal debate with sliders and crash bars. I'm of the opinion that:
1. They are primarily to prevent damage in standing or low speed drops.
2. They are unlikely to damage the frame being the contact point is derlan or some other sacrificial plastic.
And the plastic is mounted to aluminum, which is then mounted to the frame so the aluminum should hopefully be weaker than the frame if push comes to shove.
3. If the hit is hard enough to go through or past the plastic/aluminum and actually does damage the frame you would have had just as big problems with hitting the head, or at least it's so hard a hit you'd likely be looking at a write off anyway.
4. Things like this provide some small safety net to hopefully prevent minor and annoying cosmetic or light functional damage.
But bottom line, there are no guarantees either way.
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So they'll serve as bumpers, not sliders, then.. ;D
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So they'll serve as bumpers, not sliders, then.. ;D
Lol, I hope they'll JUST serve as bling and just hang there. :BEER:
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Lol, I hope they'll JUST serve as bling and just hang there. :BEER:
:+1 ;-T
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:+1 ;-T
How you feeling man? Get that MRI yet? Know if it's really a disc?
I sorta put our spring ride plannig on hold for obvious reasons.
Keep me posted though and feel better!
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How you feeling man? Get that MRI yet? Know if it's really a disc?
I sorta put our spring ride plannig on hold for obvious reasons.
Keep me posted though and feel better!
My primary doc sent me straight to physical therapy without bothering with the (expensive) MRI. Disc or muscle strain, PT is the the first thing to try to fix it (oh, a course of prednesone, valium, Tylenol and ibuprofen). I started PT this past week. It is slowly improving. I still get some occasional numbness and mild pain in my right leg, but nothing like last weekend. I'm keeping up with the drugs and the stretching exercises from PT. They also gave me a 5lb lift/carry restriction. That one is kinda tough to follow. My work laptop in it's bag weighs about 6 lbs. Heck, a gallon of milk (or water, or any drink for that matter) weighs 8 lbs, so that is a pretty tight restriction. :+=copcar
Kim has been a trooper :wife:, she's been doing all the heavy lifting; 2 or 3 40lb bags (per day) of pellets to be put in the pellet boiler for heat and hot water, and the fire wood that needs to be brought in for the wood stove.
In any case, if I follow the PT and restrictions, they said I should be "good as new" in a few months.
At least I'm not missing out on good riding weather, as there is no way I'd attempt riding for a while yet. I'm hoping that by the middle-to-end of March that I'll be back in the saddle. ;-T
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Luckily you only have to lift beers one pint at a time.
Let me know of you have any heavy lifting needs and we'll take a trip out that way.
Heal up!
;-T
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Thanks for all the info Kev.
Have a happy and healthy New Year!
Tom
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Thanks for all the info Kev.
Have a happy and healthy New Year!
Tom
And to you too...shiny side up!
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Nice, I'm a slider fan too. I made mine from pieces of aluminum bar and some PVC bar. I haven't made any for my Guzzi yet, however.
(http://www.lakeserv.net/kaw/photos/sliders/slider_drying_2.jpg)
(http://www.lakeserv.net/kaw/photos/sliders/left_mount.jpg)
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I saw on AF1 racing's website the other day, they have crash bars for the new V7 heads.
http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=60959 (http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=60959)
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This is a really helpful thread Kev. Thanks for sharing. I'm looking for the right solution as well but to be honest, not in the biggest rush since I'm enjoying the look of the bike so much this early in the ownership experience. I think the sliders are a good compromise between having some sort of protection for minor spills and bumps vs crash bars. It's hard to imagine adding anything to alter the look of the V7 just yet, but these accessories certainly have a purpose.
I'd definitely to be interested to know if anyone comes across sliders that will fit the new single throttle body engine in the future.
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A grade 5 bolt is hardware store strong a # 8 or #12 would be better :BEER: The sliders don't look bad. ;-T
Tim
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I like sliders, head guards and crash bars, but.....
I usually drop a bike where there is something else there, like a big rock, that is in just the right spot to miss all the guards and hit something important, like the gas tank!!
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I like sliders, head guards and crash bars, but.....
I usually drop a bike where there is something else there, like a big rock, that is in just the right spot to miss all the guards and hit something important, like the gas tank!!
Yup, there are no guarantees, just a little insurance to try and make us feel warm and fuzzy.
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Though not V7 nor even Guzzi in general... Thanks for the WEBIKE link Kev as it's led me to a couple things I really wanted for my track day, fake Yoshi/AMA Katana. Notably, those pulsar covers as I can't find nor care to cast Yoshi versions. Then there's the NOS "White Power" bits scattered about on their site.
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I saw on AF1 racing's website the other day, they have crash bars for the new V7 heads.
http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=60959 (http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=60959)
Can't decide on sliders or the full on crash bar.
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I decided to resurrect this thread because I didn't see the point in starting a new one about the same topic. In any case, I picked up a pair of these and was thinking of complimenting them with a pair of sliders. The list/links Kev provided are still working and as you will see, the prices have dropped in some cases. Particularly option 3 (SATO) is 220 in Japan as opposed to 274 at Af1. As for the crash bars I purchased, they seem to fit on both the original heads and the newer ones.
(http://www.70tre.it/data/prod/img/tubo_protezione_testata_nero_1.jpg)
(http://www.70tre.com/data/prod/img/44.jpg)
(http://www.70tre.it/data/prod/img/54.jpg)
In any case, I was wondering if anyone has ever supplemented their crash bars with sliders or if this is really just overkill? I am probably being over protective of my new baby. For more info on 70tre's kits and crash bars check out their website: http://www.70tre.it/tubo_protezione_testata_nero
More Pics of the guards on the new V7 heads:
(http://www.70tre.com/data/prod/img/51.jpg)
(http://www.70tre.com/data/prod/img/49.jpg)
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You gotta do what makes you warm and fuzzy, but it sounds like overkill. And this from a guy who has had sliders or crash bars on most of the bikes he's ever owned.
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You gotta do what makes you warm and fuzzy, but it sounds like overkill. And this from a guy who has had sliders or crash bars on most of the bikes he's ever owned.
Yeah, you are probably right! Warm and fuzzy is beginning to be rather expensive at this point. :boozing:
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I'm going to order another set of these for my V7S (already have a pair on my V7R).
http://japan.webike.net/products/20310046.html (http://japan.webike.net/products/20310046.html)
(http://img.webike.net/catalogue/10516/5993101_a.jpg)
The price is $246.40. Shipping is $66, but, shipping is free on orders over over $440, so, shipping on TWO pair is free.
SO..... if anyone here is interested in saving on shipping costs, I can order two pair and them ship yours to you. Shipping from me to anywhere in the main 48 should be under $15, and I'll pay half that, since I'm saving on shipping too.
As an added bonus, if you're buying them for a 1TB bike (new heads, '13 and newer), I'll even include a set of spacers and longer bolts to extend them as Kev M did (I did this as well for my '13 V7R).
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Mazeltov Jay "sucha deal" :thumb:
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Do they fit V7 II ?? Thanks.
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Do they fit V7 II ?? Thanks.
I don't see why not. As long as that portion of the frame is same, and I'm under the impression it is.
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I don't see why not. As long as that portion of the frame is same, and I'm under the impression it is.
Thanks for the reply, yes, a difference source also confirmed they or others like this will fit V7II
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Rather than starting a new topic I'll dust this one off and fire it up again.
How are users of the frame sliders going? Any further thoughts or unfortunate experience with them? I'm looking into crash protection options for my 2016 V7II S. These sliders are a neat option compared to crash bars but I wonder how much protection they offer due to being mounted low.
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Hey gang,
This thread has been restarted a couple times and I'm doing it again. Looking for feedback and recommendations for frame sliders versus engine guards for a 2016 v7 ll. The assumption I'm operating on is that there would be insurance on a drop or low speed slide versus at speed. Any and all thoughts are appreciated :thumb:
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I did mine a bit different.
I have the same as kev but I choose to have a second extender plate machined to add where the original connects to the frame thus leaving the length of the slider as delivered. No real reason, it's just what I did. net effect is the same as the slider will now contact before the head.
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I'm kinda in the same position as Ltl1 -- what (and if) I should get to reduce low-/no-speed tipover damage for a 2019 V7 III Stone. Here's the selection from AF1 (I'm not recommending a specific vendor or OEM):
$406 MG head protectors https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=93457&sku=2S000930&description=Moto+Guzzi+Cyl+Head+Protection+Kit%2C+BLK+%2D+2S000930
$250 MG engine guards https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=88832&sku=2S000914&description=OEM+Moto+Guzzi+Engine+Guard%2C+Black+%2D+2S000914
$290 H&B engine guards https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=88844&sku=MM501.5500001&description=Hepco+%26+Becker+Engine+Guard%2C+Black+For+V7+III%27s
$130 Givi engine guards https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=88968&sku=GV-TN8202&description=Givi+Engine+Guards+for+V7+III%27s+and+V9%27s
$210 Stucchi engine guards https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=104715&sku=MGPRR059921SP&description=Stucchi+Engine+Guards+For+V7+II%2C+V7+III+and+V9
$275 Sato frame sliders https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=96091&sku=SA-MG-V717FS-BK&description=Sato+Racing+Frame+Sliders+For+Moto+Guzzi+V7+III
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Think about your needs.
When I sold my first engine guards because they wouldn’t work with my 70tre scrambler exhaust, I considered whether I wanted to replace them with frame sliders, the 70tre head frames, or engine guards that did fit. I love the look of the 70tre frames, but chose the Hepco & Becker scrambler/Stornello guards because they were more heavy duty, protected more area, and I could mount aux lights should I decide to down the road (pun!).
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Wisdom from Dirk_S
Think about your needs.
so I'm going down that path. Priorities for my 2019 V7 III Stone mostly ridden on paved roads -- maybe ridden on county-graded roads are:
1. In the event of a tipover, prevent entrapment of my leg or other extremity. I will usually be riding with side cases and always in my Aerostich Roadcrafter Classic.
2. In the event of a tipover, reduce damage to motorcycle especially cylinder heads.
3. In the event of a tipover, reduce the effort to upright the motorcycle to continue riding.
4. Remain in place for scheduled services.
5. Generally fit into the overall style of the motorcycle.
6. Unobtrusive appearance.
7. Lower cost is the tie-breaker.
Mounting auxiliary lighting is not of interest for shadowing reasons. I will be mounting two DOT LED foglights on the forks about fender height for both visibility and illumination purposes and want them roughly even with the headlight. As discussed elsewhere, I will be using two programmable relays to "wiggle the handlebars" when I press the momentary Hi-Beam switch to attract the attention of drivers at intersections.
WRT speed, I think Kev m said it best
This is the eternal debate with sliders and crash bars. I'm of the opinion that:
1. They are primarily to prevent damage in standing or low speed drops.
2. They are unlikely to damage the frame being the contact point is derlan or some other sacrificial plastic.
And the plastic is mounted to aluminum, which is then mounted to the frame so the aluminum should hopefully be weaker than the frame if push comes to shove.
3. If the hit is hard enough to go through or past the plastic/aluminum and actually does damage the frame you would have had just as big problems with hitting the head, or at least it's so hard a hit you'd likely be looking at a write off anyway.
4. Things like this provide some small safety net to hopefully prevent minor and annoying cosmetic or light functional damage.
But bottom line, there are no guarantees either way.
The Stucchi engine guards are awesome and if I was getting a Rough or as in my much younger days riding in mud and snow they would be my choice.
The MG head protectors seem to be limited to head protecting and wallet emptying.
As one person said of the MG engine guards, they look like they came from the factory but protection, etc is uncertain. A candidate.
The Givi engine guards are a bit more obtrusive, look like they meet most priorities, and the price is awesome.
The H&B engine guards are more obtrusive but I think uprighting the motorcycle would be easier. I believe the Agostini engine guards are similar.
I really would like to choose the Sato frame sliders but I'm doubtful about protection, etc priorities.
So unless Kev M can talk me into the Sato's, it's looking like the Givi's for me.
Suggestions, corrections, etc welcome.
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Hey go with what makes you feel warm and fuzzy.
We've got two rides now with the sliders, my 13 Stone and Jenn's V7III D (well 3 if you count Jenn's Duc). Hopefully we'll continue to not test them. But we've certainly put our money where our mouth is as that's three bikes we purchased brand new and added sliders for the only real drop protection.
Honestly if I'd kept my Sportster that I got rid of last summer after about 12 years in the fleet I was thinking of getting rid of the engine guard and fastening some sliders.
That said, I don't think any guards on the V7's are going to make it easier to upright. I say this because in pretty sure the exhaust hits first and you have to be sorta over-center on the exhaust before these guards (sliders or bars) are gonna hit.
But that's a swag I've not tested and hope not to.
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Thanks Kev M.
The Stucchi's kept intriguing me so I studied the pictures and descriptions more carefully. Here's what I found:
1. They have a 3-point mount -- two socket head machine screws into permanent-mount downtube frame brackets and one rubber bumper against the cylinder head.
2. They are designed for quick removal -- remove the two screws each side leaving behind the frame brackets.
3. They have a pleasant flow around the engine that doesn't seem to protrude any further than the abrupt H&B's.
So here's how they meet my priorities:
1 = Better than most (the Givi's look to be the best)
2 = Yep, probably the best
3 = Better than most, especially with side cases mounted (I think); easy to wrap with tie strap or rope (hmm carry in side cases?)
4 = Nope but easily removed with four machine screws (H&B's look to be worst followed by Givi's)
5 = Better than most due to front-to-back flow
6 = Nope
7 = Second cheapest
(https://i.ibb.co/4d2VG5L/Stucchi-3rd-Point.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4d2VG5L)
So my choice is down to the Givi's or the Stucchi's. And I'm leaning to the right. :smiley:
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The Stucchi's kept intriguing me so I studied the pictures and descriptions more carefully...
I was quite smitten with the Stucchi guards, so much that I purchased them, held them in hand for 1 whole day, then packed them up and resold ‘em after realizing that my scrambler pipes were in the way of the right mounting points.
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And here's where you did that: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Stucchi-Engine-Protectors-For-Moto-Guzzi-V7II-V7III-V9-Brand-New-/174265221523?nma=true&si=yj648h4qMyqzStmzUi2XVJoJybQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
It was looking at your pictures that made me understand it was a three-point mount. Thanks.
I'll probably make MG Cycle happier tomorrow.
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I still don't think #3 really applies, but if it did Givi > Stucchi on that category.
None of them particularly look bad.
I dunno... But it will be cool to see what you choose!
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The only concern I see with those or the Giva is that they block some air flow right at the exhaust attachment to the head. Probably would never matter...
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Alright everyone can breathe out -- I purchased the Stucchi from MG Cycle. :laugh:
It finally came down to appearance. Think Carbon Dark. :laugh:
Kev m and Chethro -- your points are well taken. Thanks.
My Stone should be leaving OH tomorrow or Thursday. Fingers crossed.
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@Kev M
Think you could mount a set of lights to the sliders? I'm on the fence over bars or sliders, but I do want to add a set of lights.
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@Kev M
Think you could mount a set of lights to the sliders? I'm on the fence over bars or sliders, but I do want to add a set of lights.
Good question.
Simple answer: I BET it would be easier to do so on one of the sets of engine guards.
More complicated answer: You CAN do anything you set your mind to. At a glance I think it could be done using a longer spacer or other adapter on the mount. But as you can see on my MKI the current spacer aligns with the exhaust pipe from more or less a straight on view (ok, it's not straight on, the camera is a little to the side but you get the picture).
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cZOXST23HCdGDein-OvBii2MogDE5G_Sv-KWjV5F5k06dHnB6qaQTxmngAh-PkWOGEHzM7sdJ3Ziq66-Y6YP3F00PYq3e0NJkTuH3jKAJ_77ZoAYoxfnlbNxlZRS6n5BJ-3xdkQkbfqR-o3GG0gpip2A=w1070-h904-no?authuser=0)
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Hmmmm...Maybe not a longer spacer, but a slightly longer slider portion with a shoulder turned on it to accommodate a clamp.
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Hmmmm...Maybe not a longer spacer, but a slightly longer slider portion with a shoulder turned on it to accommodate a clamp.
:thumb: That could work. Or a combination of the two.
Though wouldn't it be better to mount them to the triple trees?
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I like them lower then the headlight, always felt they could be seen better. They stick out more imo. Maybe I'll just put them of the lower part of the forks
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I wish H&B sold the mount separate from the lights. https://www.motomachines.com/hepco-becker-twinlight-lamp-set-moto-guzzi-v7iii
(https://i.ibb.co/YcWjzHn/hepco-becker-twinlights-moto-guzzi-v7iii-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YcWjzHn)
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I just got a 2019 V7 iiii Night Pack last week. I ordered the Sato Racing Frame Sliders for a V7iii - will take a week or so to arrive. It is different from the V7 ii sliders they make, so hopefully this type will extend farther out and don’t require a shim. Will report after I install them.
Tony
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I just got a 2019 V7 iiii Night Pack last week. I ordered the Sato Racing Frame Sliders for a V7iii - will take a week or so to arrive. It is different from the V7 ii sliders they make, so hopefully this type will extend farther out and don’t require a shim. Will report after I install them.
Tony
Yeah they are.
I guess I never updated this thread when we bought a V7III D a year and a half ago and added the Sato Sliders! :thumb:
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Kev m -- this thread https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=100240.msg1586272#msg1586272
The tank perspective of the Givi engine guards in this post https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=100240.msg1586515#msg1586515 helped my choose the Stucchi's.
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Well, I guess I wasn't the only one trying to figure out my options here. All the input is really helpful...I think for my purposes, I'm gonna go with the Sato sliders.
Now, anyone wanna help me find a quarter/bikini fairing that'll fit my 2016 V7ll hahaha...but, seriously.
wendi
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Ltl1 -- they're out there, mostly in England. Don't expect a direct bolt-on but after looking at the variety of engine guards, fabricating brackets in mild steel or aluminum should be fairly easy. You're really going to have to open your wallet. I'm thinking if you get one mounted and color-matched for $750 you did really well.
I researched that style fairing for my V7 III but in the end chose no-fairing/no-screen and deleted all my links so don't have any to share with you.
Send pictures when it's done!
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Thanks for the input...yeah, that price is alot just to look at.
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Yeah they are.
I guess I never updated this thread when we bought a V7III D a year and a half ago and added the Sato Sliders! :thumb:
Yeah, please do post a pic or two, if either of you V7III'ers get the chance. I am looking for something less obtrusive than a crashbar, and the OEM head protector things don't look like they would stick out enough, and are expensive.
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Yeah, please do post a pic or two, if either of you V7III'ers get the chance. I am looking for something less obtrusive than a crashbar, and the OEM head protector things don't look like they would stick out enough, and are expensive.
Well Bert found the thread where I'd posted a pic of them on the IIID earlier, but here it is:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5BJRHaHCabFYDGzCssLnHEJ2hDmBWKx5wuI9RNW4jVXqFrzjyAeillkODOalhh_hizUP9ExGPs1qJumsrlvE7yGVXmRTN4ZpLWMTY0aRWGf4Wi-fxoCgdn8IpYrKggJyeNkxHDMWBJork1AyPkMfN5kf7oTbLjlXkRYReHn2LPPs6Drzi-Jc2oosSvhz9E8ifebSq9lWkpo53bdSrkCZn80wcH16BuFAm0V8wZxPyIjuiQO0SC3nWpmspFoCc4oDb1CKzacd-w3gEcTopnREJ9VnvvO5QH4HDG0ywSrpji4Ug5Ynr0PdUSLE0C-SfdfY1ph6SZ579nSLJksqBYr7nzK2bDxwF4NGGXDD20Bpghd_z5QfT3wjU0koLCoXTKCWhzQoI7zO14mwar9Y6dogliiLDvgi1X0BFd2DtFhEueuvMzJ17pMDRV_5oFzpMKdKyiFWPt_PunvPT0cXCOg3g2-y0tib1ZjgCZQuLgwO14HBduIf4jV5-N_VdCC5CgBKK-ttQpvxTTXssLH8AESzKzYfRvwdSq8Hyc7ruR3C_GvT2cNv_GamPygMe-_-NBMtBMqRqvD7_z7bSik7Pet8b8Qod14feIB-_cqN-iKcyq_nlFRTklV9e_7_hCUTGqoZ0jaO3bk9S3pOeYChG4qeYQ-cyJCBEJQ8Rex5IbRLuFGxRFjpgjmqoyXEsElSvQ39mKOfJuzv3vr4C2ZFhZ3vBFemiQ=w689-h918-no)
But I can probably find a few more:
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3d8-nDhI1fcg1QB_go3RABR3F_-eSziwXQ_vUFjRG7I1o0H2Qk7D51cZ9iI20A5Cn6il2jfOjCQ_rMkBQ2TJ15lLHVxf_DMebx03RrbNtAAEIrn5pIFeCoNvjqzrt2BVEo380Ylts5Z5fiMcf1wDIFk_Q=w1204-h903-no?authuser=0)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3e0qFh0MXjMazBvi12v0-yZ33-Yu7Tdtv1nGA6dPYIg6dV3Wf1mEKYnf5wxQtaMRnS9yUtBw91Dkzo3ykDQSUQ6P8swsbWEROPHvgzudWmpdpmvTGlv5DNIqrbXjAvAnWp0kBnLiO5IVnRZO93QtlgT6w=w1204-h903-no?authuser=0)
Gotta take the kids to camp but when I get back I'll see if I have any more from a more direct/frontal point of view.
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And a couple more...
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cKGmv7rQIg40eHsTOp6yBzB-KcyOHPPuFEoyftNzeI5twsjk1srQf4-EknsuDN_Zy5OxnV6gWPJ9FRAypy7uBPH8gXek3y8SIDZ253Q7_6prP_8sGyB9TefQYjdM4grC7_xMQhzmQJMo3Lb0Xt82ggtQ=w678-h903-no?authuser=0)
That's about all I can find. I guess straight-on is not exactly an angle I tend to shoot.
Hope that helps.
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I negotiated the Moto Guzzi engine guards and luggage rack in with the purchase of my Carbon. My primary purpose for adding the engine guards was to have a place to mount my LED running lights to create the triangle of light. I hope to never drop it.
(https://i.ibb.co/r4Ly01P/20190422-133216.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r4Ly01P)
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Kev M--
Thanks for all the pix, that's more than enough info. I think I will go with the sliders.
BTW, do you happen to remember an Italian bike shop in Freehold on Rt 33, that was there from at least 1992 or so till about 2003? Steve I think was the guy that ran it. Not real close to Medford I know (I lived in Jackson & Howell then), but It's the only one I rememeber outside of the NY/Phila area--
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Kev M--
Thanks for all the pix, that's more than enough info. I think I will go with the sliders.
BTW, do you happen to remember an Italian bike shop in Freehold on Rt 33, that was there from at least 1992 or so till about 2003? Steve I think was the guy that ran it. Not real close to Medford I know (I lived in Jackson & Howell then), but It's the only one I rememeber outside of the NY/Phila area--
:thumb:
No sorry on the Freehold thing, we only moved to this state 6 years ago for my wife's work.
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Kev M--
Thanks for all the pix, that's more than enough info. I think I will go with the sliders.
BTW, do you happen to remember an Italian bike shop in Freehold on Rt 33, that was there from at least 1992 or so till about 2003? Steve I think was the guy that ran it. Not real close to Medford I know (I lived in Jackson & Howell then), but It's the only one I rememeber outside of the NY/Phila area--
Think it was called "2 R's", owned by a guy named Russ. He passed away, and his sons couldn't keep it going. He knew and sold Guzzis. Bought a pair of NOS crashbars for my first Eldo from him. Nice guy.
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I've been waiting for this and found it today: highway pegs on Givi engine guards. :laugh:
(https://i.ibb.co/fSdpjrv/Highway-Pegs-on-Givi-Guards.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fSdpjrv)
Actually this 2018 V7 III Stone at Euro Cycle looks to be good value with side and top case mounts.
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Think it was called "2 R's", owned by a guy named Russ. He passed away, and his sons couldn't keep it going. He knew and sold Guzzis. Bought a pair of NOS crashbars for my first Eldo from him. Nice guy.
OK, now that sounds familiar. I know it closed sometime shortly after the raised highway in front of it was completed and a traffic light put in. I recall seeing a few old MGs tooling around there and at Jersey Freeze in Freehold and the place further out on Rt33 near Applegarth road over the years before the area got built up. Walt Bachman was either a Guzzi or BMW guy I don't recall, that was part of a loose group of NJ riders around that area awhile back. Time marches on...