Wildguzzi.com

General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Steph on February 06, 2013, 06:37:55 PM

Title: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Steph on February 06, 2013, 06:37:55 PM
Every time I see "Stone", I'm thinking, Hey, another guy bought a California like mine!
But no... It's always the cutesy little V7.  **C    Death to the V7s ! :food

From now on I'll refer to my California as the Fuel Injected California  California 1100 ;D

Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: rocker59 on February 06, 2013, 06:42:06 PM
Every time I see "Stone", I'm thinking, Hey, another guy bought a California like mine!
But no... It's always the cutesy little V7.  **C    Death to the V7s ! :food

From now on I'll refer to my California as the Fuel Injected California  



"fuel injected California"..  Hmmm  Just like every EV, Bassa, Jackal, Special Sport, Aluminum, Titanium, Vintage...

Yeah.  That'll set you apart!   :BEER:

How 'bout:  "California Stone"?  Or, "Cal Stone"?   (since that's what it is)   ;)
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Steph on February 06, 2013, 06:46:43 PM
"fuel injected California"..  Hmmm  Just like every EV, Bassa, Jackal, Special Sport, Aluminum, Titanium, Vintage...

Yeah.  That'll set you apart!   :BEER:

How 'bout:  "California Stone"?  Or, "Cal Stone"?   (since that's what it is)   ;)

That's right, they're all just one big melting pot +/- 15 years!  ;)
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Kev m on February 06, 2013, 07:27:07 PM
Meh, I say call it a Jackal Wannabe...  :-*
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Steph on February 06, 2013, 08:05:28 PM
Meh, I say call it a Jackal Wannabe...  :-*

Nuts!

Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: guzzisteve on February 06, 2013, 08:11:55 PM
V11 Stone, so they know your a Big Block.
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Steph on February 06, 2013, 08:16:27 PM
V11 Stone, so they know your a Big Block.

Life's too short!
 LOL :BEER:

Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: termoto on February 06, 2013, 08:21:34 PM
I call 01 stone anniversary issue a Jackal. I think it was made
in the factory during the name change.
 It is in the shop now have a check up. I got in yesterday
I thought it would be ready today. Hopefully tomorrow.
The valves/rocker arms need to be adjusted. I wonder
how long it takes to do that?
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: rocker59 on February 06, 2013, 10:54:34 PM

From now on I'll refer to my California as the Fuel Injected California California 1100 ;D



OK.  You realize that the California 1100 is the model that preceded the 1998 EV, right?
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Steph on February 07, 2013, 02:52:21 AM
OK.  You realize that the California 1100 is the model that preceded the 1998 EV, right?

Yeah...

At the moment people refer to the new California as the 1400. They get the picture of what you re talking about.

It's not like i claimed i had a LeMans!


Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: rboe on February 07, 2013, 07:43:49 AM
Big Stone vs. Wee Stone.....
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Kev m on February 07, 2013, 07:50:59 AM
Your Stone is in the larger setting and more visible for it's greater size!  ;D

Ya know, it's gaudy like that...  :BEER:


Big Stone vs. Wee Stone.....

Big Cali (1400) vs. Wee Cali (1100)  ;D
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: rboe on February 07, 2013, 07:53:31 AM
Oh Gawd! What if they do come out with a 1400 Stone!  :o  We'll have to call it The Rock.  :P
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Kev m on February 07, 2013, 07:55:35 AM
Oh Gawd! What if they do come out with a 1400 Stone!  :o  We'll have to call it The Rock.  :P

At that point it would be a frickin' boulder...  :o
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: geeseman on February 07, 2013, 08:17:10 AM
What's up with this, I thought this was a family safe forum now we got a post about guys talking about their "stones"  ~; ~; :BEER:
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Joliet Jim on February 07, 2013, 08:19:47 AM
i just call mine the "Original Stone"

Such a great name they wanted to use it again to remind people of the glory days of Guzzi Big Twins starting in 2001.
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Kev m on February 07, 2013, 08:24:01 AM
they wanted to use it again to remind people of the glory days of Guzzi Big Twins starting in 2001.

You learn something new every day.

I had no idea that "Glory Days" was a synonym for "twilight".  :BEER:
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: rboe on February 07, 2013, 09:09:08 AM
Hard to tell twilight from sunrise unless you know where you're heading.
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Kev m on February 07, 2013, 09:15:05 AM
Hard to tell twilight from sunrise unless you know where you're heading.

It's easy if you can see the big picture...  ;-T
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: rboe on February 07, 2013, 09:20:15 AM
Easier said than done but so true.
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Mark West on February 07, 2013, 10:20:35 AM
I'm pretty amazed that Guzzi brought the Stone name back. Pretty dumb name for any motorcycle if you ask me. I think they must have had a contest to see if they could find something worse than Jackal and Stone was the winner.
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: rocker59 on February 07, 2013, 02:43:47 PM
I'm pretty amazed that Guzzi brought the Stone name back. Pretty dumb name for any motorcycle if you ask me. I think they must have had a contest to see if they could find something worse than Jackal and Stone was the winner.

Someone needs to have a sexy picture of Sharon (Stone) airbrushed on top of their tank.

That would be the ticket.   ;-T
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: rboe on February 07, 2013, 02:55:03 PM
I think I'd even let Sharon Stone sit on my tank......  ::)
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Stormtruck2 on February 07, 2013, 03:05:12 PM
Oh Gawd! What if they do come out with a 1400 Stone!  :o  We'll have to call it The Rock.  :P

No we would just call it Gibralter.  ;)
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: geeseman on February 07, 2013, 03:11:40 PM
Someone needs to have a sexy picture of Sharon (Stone) airbrushed on top of their tank.

That would be the ticket.   ;-T


This will work !

(http://snakkle.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/sharon-stone-basic-instinct-movie-photo-GC.jpg)
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Adan on February 07, 2013, 04:42:49 PM
This will work !

(http://snakkle.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/sharon-stone-basic-instinct-movie-photo-GC.jpg)

She lives (or used to) in my 'hood, supposedly.  It's a funny neighborhood, with all economic strata kind of jammed in together.  SS was married to the owner of the SF Chronicle and lived with him out here in the extreme northwestern part of San Francisco.  I saw her once riding a horse on the nearby coastal trail.  Sometimes you see a movie star in real life and they just seem like ordinary peeps.  Not so Ms. Stone, she's larger than life.

Robin Williams also used to live near me, before he divorced and left the house to his wife.  He was more of a regular guy, drove an old jeep and used to eat at the local pizza place.

But we so pleasantly digress.  Not sure what's wrong with "stone" as a name for a bare bones naked motorcycle.  Works better for me than ZXS789, or whatever.  
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Guzzistajohn on February 07, 2013, 04:43:02 PM
Why not "The Boulder?"
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: drums4money on February 07, 2013, 08:39:36 PM
you could call it "Chester" or "Malcom"...
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Guzzistajohn on February 07, 2013, 08:45:07 PM
Sam Stone, came home, to his wife and family, after serving in the conflict overseas.
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: 1Sourdough on February 07, 2013, 09:50:55 PM
Somehow I thought the various versions of Cali III were just different paint schemes.  Was there a substantial difference between models?
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: rocker59 on February 07, 2013, 09:58:08 PM
Somehow I thought the various versions of Cali III were just different paint schemes.  Was there a substantial difference between models?

Cal III was a 1000 (949).  Available from 1987-1993.  

Then, they bumped the displacement. That made it the Cal 1100 (1064) from 1994-1997.  Available EFI made it the Cal 1100i.

1998 saw the big facelift and brought us the EV.  

Then followed with 99 Bassa / 00 Jackal/ 01 Special / 02 Stone / 02 Special Sport / 03 Aluminum / 03 EV Touring / 04 Titanium / 07 Vintage.
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: bpreynolds on February 08, 2013, 04:40:15 AM
Sam Stone, came home, to his wife and family, after serving in the conflict overseas.

Never seen Prine on a bike but I bet he'd ride Guzzi if he did.  So would that Dylan fellow too.  Everybody must get stoned, you know.
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Steph on February 08, 2013, 06:26:32 AM
Cal III was a 1000 (949).  Available from 1987-1993.  

Then, they bumped the displacement. That made it the Cal 1100 (1064) from 1994-1997.  Available EFI made it the Cal 1100i.

1998 saw the big facelift and brought us the EV.  

Then followed with 99 Bassa / 00 Jackal/ 01 Special / 02 Stone / 02 Special Sport / 03 Aluminum / 03 EV Touring / 04 Titanium / 07 Vintage.

You forgot:  Stone Touring / Stone Metal / Classic / Black Eagle

Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: rocker59 on February 08, 2013, 10:26:04 AM
You forgot:  Stone Touring / Stone Metal / Classic / Black Eagle



 :BEER:
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Kev m on February 08, 2013, 10:39:54 AM
Was it a "Stone Metal" or just "Metal"? (honestly asking).
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: rocker59 on February 08, 2013, 10:45:21 AM
Was it a "Stone Metal" or just "Metal"? (honestly asking).

2002 and 2003 availability.  As I recall, it was first referred to as "Stone Chrome", then became "Stone Metal".

And, oddly enough, there was a Stone Metal availablie with glossy black fuel tank.
 
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: wavedog on February 08, 2013, 10:56:19 AM
In view of recent legislative trends my vote is ...whoa dude......Californi a Stoner.   I forsee a popularity resurgence of this bike in the west coast just based upon the name.
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Kev m on February 08, 2013, 11:42:45 AM
2002 and 2003 availability.  As I recall, it was first referred to as "Stone Chrome", then became "Stone Metal".

And, oddly enough, there was a Stone Metal availablie with glossy black fuel tank.
 

hmm, I don't remember that.

DIDN'T the Metal have dual disc brakes? Was it the mini-boards or did it have pegs?
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: rocker59 on February 08, 2013, 12:24:47 PM
hmm, I don't remember that.

DIDN'T the Metal have dual disc brakes? Was it the mini-boards or did it have pegs?

It was just a Jackal/Stone with a chromed tank sporting a red stripe.  Black fenders.  Single disk.  Pegs.

I almost bought an '02 Stone Chrome.  The dealer had that one and an '03 Stone Metal (black version).  I bought a BMW F650GSD instead.
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: 1Sourdough on February 08, 2013, 07:46:00 PM
Cal III was a 1000 (949).  Available from 1987-1993.  

1998 saw the big facelift and brought us the EV.  

From the several posts responding to my question it looks as though the various models were essentially light changes of physical features and paint/trim around the essential Cal III.  Is that fairly close?  I have been glad the basic machine seems to soldier on, just changing clothes with the seasons.

The very first few EVs had a red circle around the "EV".  Was that the 1998?  For some reason I had thought it was a couple of years earlier than that.  Mine is a '99.  As much as I disliked the Tonti style when it came out in 1975, when I got on that one I was willing to overlook the appearance because it was such a delight to ride.  After several years I still like the EV's lines and get along with it pretty well but my attention wanders when a Convert clatters past.

Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: rocker59 on February 08, 2013, 09:34:29 PM
From the several posts responding to my question it looks as though the various models were essentially light changes of physical features and paint/trim around the essential Cal III.  Is that fairly close?  I have been glad the basic machine seems to soldier on, just changing clothes with the seasons.

The very first few EVs had a red circle around the "EV".  Was that the 1998?  For some reason I had thought it was a couple of years earlier than that.  Mine is a '99.  As much as I disliked the Tonti style when it came out in 1975, when I got on that one I was willing to overlook the appearance because it was such a delight to ride.  After several years I still like the EV's lines and get along with it pretty well but my attention wanders when a Convert clatters past.



V11 EV was new for 1998 and a big deal for Guzzi.  The bike had several hundred detail changes from the 1997 California 1100.

The first EV's had the red spot around "V11" with a small "EV" next to the "11".

Yes, The Cal III, Cal 1100, Cal EV, etc are "basically" the same bike.  However, everything is also different.

From '97 to '98 brakes, forks, fenders, dash, bars, seat, wheels, chrome fender trim, headlight, turn signals, etc., etc.  were changed.

From the EV came the Bassa, Jackal, etc., etc., which were detail changes of the '98 EV.

Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: cruzziguzzi on February 10, 2013, 05:21:04 PM
When I was resigned to buying a Jackal, before buying I had decided to refer to it as a Chacal as in "Ici Chacal" in part admittedly to chafe the "Gootsie" crowd.

Later with the Calvin in addition to verbally dropping the Vintage, I was happy to have it removed with the re-paint. Now it's just a California by me.


I think I'd be plowing the "Stone" under as well - a little too OCC for me.
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Kev m on February 11, 2013, 09:19:49 AM
When I was resigned to buying a Jackal, before buying I had decided to refer to it as a Chacal as in "Ici Chacal" in part admittedly to chafe the "Gootsie" crowd.

Later with the Calvin in addition to verbally dropping the Vintage, I was happy to have it removed with the re-paint. Now it's just a California by me.


I think I'd be plowing the "Stone" under as well - a little too OCC for me.

It's not like it SAYS Stone anywhere on the NEW Stone...


I always figured that if I had a Cali Stone I'd have just added a "D" to the sidecovers.

Of course, when I repainted the Jackal I didn't bother applying new decals saying JACKAL to the sidecovers either though...

Meh, it's all just a name... I think Shakespeare said something about that...
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: guzzi4cats on February 12, 2013, 02:02:17 PM
I don't think I'd care what it was called as long as it kept rollin'.
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: inditx on February 14, 2015, 08:44:04 PM
Gotta love John Prine.
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: krglorioso on February 14, 2015, 10:44:12 PM
"Valvole Idrauliche" may be overly ethnic, but perhaps "Hydro Stones" will work.  I blanched in proper outrage when Mandello anointed those little poppers with the revered name.  Is nothing sacred?

Ralph
2003 Stone Touring
2004 Stone Touring
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Guzzistajohn on February 14, 2015, 11:08:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl9ZkYViEIs
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Penderic on February 15, 2015, 02:25:04 AM
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Eaglead_zpsvdezhd0m.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ux3-a9RE1Q
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: sib on February 15, 2015, 06:54:21 AM
Surprised no one here calls their bike Sly, the Family Stone.
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: kirby1923 on February 15, 2015, 09:10:51 AM
Bonneville, Trailblazer, Thyphoon, Houndsarrow, Lightning, Tiger, Thunderbird, Mach III, Goldstar, Road King, Bullet Le Mans...to name a few.(FLCH.... ugh.. ad nausea, excluded).

" Hey come over and see my new Stone!"

Stone??? Where did that come from? Some history of the brand connection?





:-)
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: krglorioso on February 15, 2015, 10:49:28 PM
Even stodgy Velocette had the clever Valiant, Vogue, Viper and Venom!

Ralph
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: rocker59 on February 17, 2015, 11:28:58 AM
One can only wonder what the hell they were thinking using the same name again on a totally different bike.

Would you have liked it better if they'd called it California Pietra, or V7 Pietra ?

 :D
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Park Ridge Phil on February 17, 2015, 11:57:53 AM
  I didn't really care for the JACKAL decal on the sidecover also. Had them repainted without like Kev M. People would ask if that was my handle or nickname. And yes, adding a D to the end of STONE, maybe offset a little, would be great. 8)
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Mark West on February 17, 2015, 11:58:12 AM
Just call it a late model Tonti. Not really much difference in any of them from the late 90's to the end of Tonti production. Even with that broad description, you have a pretty unique bike.
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Steph on February 17, 2015, 03:34:37 PM
Gotta love John Prine.

Had to look up who that was.
Thanks
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ciRrXZDQJfU
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: bad Chad on February 17, 2015, 09:49:10 PM
One of my favorites was the Pumpkin Orange tank Stone, anyone have a pic of it?
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: bpreynolds on February 17, 2015, 09:52:03 PM
I just call mine my favorite Guzzi. ;-T
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Dean Rose on February 18, 2015, 07:22:24 AM
Maybe they ought to call the V7 version The Pebble.


Dean
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: Joliet Jim on February 18, 2015, 07:30:03 AM
One of my favorites was the Pumpkin Orange tank Stone, anyone have a pic of it?

I believe that was flint orange, limestone white, slate, and I forget the ugly one. Good thing nobody told marketing it looked like a pumpkin or we'd have the california vegetable. How's your breva tomato doing?
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: rocker59 on February 18, 2015, 09:22:16 AM
I believe that was flint orange, limestone white, slate, and I forget the ugly one. Good thing nobody told marketing it looked like a pumpkin or we'd have the california vegetable. How's your breva tomato doing?

Slate Black,  Porphyry Grey,  Flint Orange,  Limestone White
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: kirby1923 on February 18, 2015, 09:44:53 AM
 Porphyry!!??..Good grief..I don't have the words!

 mike :-)
Title: Re: I'm no longer calling my California Stone a Stone...
Post by: rocker59 on February 18, 2015, 10:14:16 AM
Porphyry!!??..Good grief..I don't have the words!

 mike :-)

Yeah.  Some intern at Marabese's studio was probably responsible for those..   :D