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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: boatdetective on April 23, 2013, 11:06:20 PM
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So I was in the neighborhood today and strolled in to see the good folks at Greater Boston Motorsports. There it was- the new CB1100. All I can tell you is that this bike in the flesh is a very, very impressive machine. the attention to detail is phenomenal. You get the impression that every single widget was designed with the utmost care and regard for aesthetics as well as function. The visual "balance" of the bike is fantastic- walk around the bike and it looks super from all angles. When you throw a leg over, you get the immediate impression that this is a physically "medium" sized machine- much smaller than I would expect from a typical 1100 - much smaller than the equivalent Guzzi.
I got the strong feeling that I could definitely see me buying one. I just bought the 1200 sport, though. In any case, it's a bit late and I have to turn in. Kevin Ballowe here really needs to chime in about his.
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Great looking bike. Only visual fault I can find is the fork looks a little spindly.
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It certainly appeals to many previous owners of the CB series. And there are lots of us! ;-T
I had one of the original CB750's when they first came out and the bike was an amazing machine at the time.
My CB750 got a lot of attention because of the 4 beautiful exhaust pipes and I have to say the new CB1100, although it looks great, would look even better with 4 symmetrical chrome pipes.
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Very nice looking! ;-T
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Sat on one at the dealer...beautiful bike
I agree it felt smaller, probably because it has only ~3 gallon tank. Can't go far on thet.
Also, it really does need dual pipes on each side
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I'll agree with you that the stock exhaust can is just too massive. The 4 into 4 pipes you show are just beautiful. I do hope the company does well with this model. It seems that the more interest there is, the more bits and pieces will pop up to customize it.
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I examined and sat on the new CB1100 at the Honda tent in Austin at the MotoGP. Yes, I agree the bike is a stunner and Honda probably has a winner here targeted at guys like me that always lusted after a CB 500 or CB 750.
On the pipes, the four into one is ok, but I would prefer the four fingers sticking backwards. The price point is very competitive and yes the tank seems smallish. These bikes will sell.
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The dealer in Chattanooga received three and they sold in just hours. I was able to preview and they are stunning, well built and just tasteful. I would have to wait on a peg lowering kit as the bike is just too tight for my right leg. I would probably sell my scrambler and buy one. The engine sounded like a Triumph Triple and that is a good thing to me.
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I keep being drawn to it. It fits me much better than the Griso but is heavier (in the long haul will that make a difference?) and I fear Guzzi has spoiled me with its motor. Me thinks a V7 Special and a CB1100F would be a nice mix.
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Great bike. However, with all of that attention to detail, I see two things lacking.
First is fuel capacity. In order to show off the engine, Honda intentionally made the tank narrow, but a bike like this would be a nice traveling companion with another gallon or so of gas on board. I think Honda made the wrong choice, here.
Second is the black plastic covers that hide the fuel injection. Why couldn't Honda follow Triumph's lead, and style the throttle bodies to resemble carburetors, as with the EFI Bonnevilles? Those covers are an eyesore, more so because the rest of the bike is so exquisitely finished.
The four-into-one exhaust doesn't bother me. I actually like how the headers sweep to one side; that's part of the Honda CB styling heritage, albeit not the CB750 Four.
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I like where they've gone with this a lot - it looks like a hit, and will be interested in seeing what the aftermarket comes up with and what they do in future model years. I had a Nighthawk S CB700SC in the 80's and always thought if it was a 1000 or 1100 I would have kept it forever.
I actually like the 4 into 1 a lot, paying respect to the old 400 four. The only styling element I really don't like are the 5 spoke Comstock-style wheels - I mentally associate it with a lot of the Honda throwaway models like some of the 400-450cc stuff in the 78-82 timeframe.
-Steve
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The only styling element I really don't like are the 5 spoke Comstock-style wheels - I mentally associate it with a lot of the Honda throwaway models like some of the 400-450cc stuff in the 78-82 timeframe.
And some of the not-throwaway models from78-82 ;D
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Love the bike, placed a deposit on one but decided I didn't want to part ways with my V7C to make room for it.
One thing I recently noticed is that the Euro-spec bikes have a silver engine and silver wheels, while the US bikes have a black engine and black-trimmed wheels. I really prefer the silver. The black engine looks a lot like a '73 Kawasaki Z-1 engine, at least to me, and I don't love the black-trimmed wheels. Spokes would look nicer on this bike.
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Great looking bike. Only visual fault I can find is the fork looks a little spindly.
Some fork gators might remedy that.
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It certainly appeals to many previous owners of the CB series. And there are lots of us! ;-T
I had one of the original CB750's when they first came out and the bike was an amazing machine at the time.
My CB750 got a lot of attention because of the 4 beautiful exhaust pipes and I have to say the new CB1100, although it looks great, would look even better with 4 symmetrical chrome pipes.
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Very nice looking! ;-T
THAT is exactly what I was thinking! Give it a four into four exhaust. ;-T
John Henry
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I keep being drawn to it. It fits me much better than the Griso but is heavier (in the long haul will that make a difference?) and I fear Guzzi has spoiled me with its motor. Me thinks a V7 Special and a CB1100F would be a nice mix.
The CB1100 is actually a little lighter than the Griso. IIRC the curb weight is 540lbs.
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I have seen so many different weights on the Griso; with most around the 500lb range that I take all with a grain of salt. Guess I need to weigh mine. My Griso certainly feels lighter than the Honda which is sort of odd. Well, after the Quota a LOT of bikes seem lighter.
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Hello,
Yes indeed, this is a fine looking machine! But I got friend's comments who test-rided it that it is a dull machine whithout vibes and soul.
Me, I just sit on it at a mc show and I loved the bike.
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Hi....saw this too at my Honda place.....this is a beauty by any standards...Rich EV
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Looks to be eminently hackable...
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I have seen so many different weights on the Griso; with most around the 500lb range that I take all with a grain of salt. Guess I need to weigh mine. My Griso certainly feels lighter than the Honda which is sort of odd. Well, after the Quota a LOT of bikes seem lighter.
Weights are notoriously hard to find for motorcycles. The manufacturers just make up what they want. I wish all the reviewers would just take the time to weigh the bikes with tanks full and tanks empty.
I've seen the curb weight for our Griso's to be 580lbs.
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Last one I looked at a couple days ago was 555lbs. 580 is really high. When I dropped it next to my house (kick stand was not down like I thought) I just grabbed the handle bar and righted her. Not being a beefy guy this would indicate to me she weighs much less than 580 (tank was not full).
Meh, gotta weigh my bike I guess.
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I've seen that number quite a few times too. Where would you weigh it? I had a buddy that had a set of scales for weighing his race cars, but he passed away.
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Local dealer, while not admitting fault, gave me a deal on a CB1100F to settle our differences. So I bit. Better fit than the Griso, less power (good for my health! and better in town manners. The very short stretch on the freeway, first impression, not as good as the Griso.
Make no mistake, this motor is no torque monster but it does have a fair amount of very usable torque - she's a keeper.
Looks wise she is gorgeous but compared to the Griso it's apples oranges.
But the Griso may have to go to pay for her. If she goes, and I suspect she will, once I retire I think the 1400 California would be an excellent Guzzi replacement; and it's a better fit too. :)
Another short ride tomorrow, but so far, I'm impressed.
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A couple of weeks ago I was at Riders Hill picking up a Guzzi and saw three CB1100 s at he same time in the parking lot. They were pretty impressive . I guess they are going to sell well.
Roberto.
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My dad's got a Griso & a CB1100... he says the CB1100 feels much smaller even though the number's are similar. He won't be getting rid of either one. Both are perfect for what they intend to be.
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One dealer I spoke to sold their CB1100 as soon as it was on the floor and had a deposit for the next bike they receive.
I sat on one at the Statesboro dealer. As mentioned in previous posts the finish and detailing are flawless. I think Honda got the styling perfect. The 4 into 1 exhaust is in keeping with the overall design, losing the cluttered look of a 4 into 4 system. An after market silencer will satisfy those who want a more vintage sound and make a wee power gain. Having not been designed as a long haul bike, the smallish tank should be adequate for the bikes's intended riders. The only change Honda should make is more color options.
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After the short ride today I'm thinking I prefer this bike in town and speeds below 65 I think it's an easier and more comfortable than the Griso. Above 65 (and this may be me just having to get use to it) the Griso is much better. 65-90 the Griso is like a locomotive and sounds about the same. The Honda gives me stronger audio cues that it is working harder. It's up the task and not stressed, but noise and vibrations go up. You know you going faster. That darn Griso just goes without telling you; sneaky little bastard! ;D
When bench racing with the guys my impression was the two bike would be too similar and it would not make sense to keep both. I'm not so sure any more. Kinda like comparing the new Thunderbird to a Boss Mustang. The Honda is more of a gentleman's bike while the Griso is a "refined" hooligan.
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I like the CB1100. It tugs at me because the first motorcycle I bought when I was 18 was a brand new 1974 CB750. I loved that bike! But nowadays I would plunk down the extra $1500 and get the CB1000R instead.
This things will run rings around the CB1100!! It has a proper sized gas tank too - 4.5 gallons.
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CB1100
I don't get it.
my 98 Bandit has 110 HP. Styling is subjective.
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I finally saw one last week in Chicago at the Mods & Rockers show. It looked good and got lots of positive comments. Can't wait to see one with a tasteful custom treatment.
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I think it speaks to folks that don't quite get the Duke, CB1000R, Speed Triple etc. While I can appreciate bikes like that, the styling leaves me cold and the riding posture does not promote hours in the saddle (with a 36" inseam, the ability to flat foot any motorcycle and long arms with a not so long torso many sport bikes and most cruisers simply do not fit me).
Give me round analog gauges (even if they really are digital), a flat seat and classic styling; or at least not in the style of Transformers. Luckily we have choices. I'm fortunate enough to have a couple bikes to choose from to suit my riding mood or road. I think I'd kill myself on the R in any event. Props to you for having the skill set to handle it. Point taken on the gas tank. That was a bit of a head scratcher.
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I was never a fan of the original 4-cylinder UJMs and my taste tends to run to 2 or less cylinders but I have to say I like the new Honda CB1100. I've been reading the articles about it but not seen one for real yet.
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Sorry,I just don't get all the hoopla. ???
It's just another Honda.
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Hmm 6K valve interval and shim under bucket design WTF???
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8K, and that is to just to check.
Now, this remains to be seen........ ;) Certainly won't be as easy as the Griso.
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Sat on one at the dealer...beautiful bike
I agree it felt smaller, probably because it has only ~3 gallon tank. Can't go far on thet.
Also, it really does need dual pipes on each side
Beautiful bike. Honda probably did a good job on the internals too.
Couldn't do the 3 gallon tank, though. On my little ride from Delta to Gunnison today, it was 100 miles between gas stations on a Sunday .... I was already part empty, and used all of my 4.6 gallons ....
Lannis
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I don't like the seam along the edge of the tank. Looks cheap. Like the CB750. Oh yeah, that's what Honda was trying to do!?
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They have been in Oz for a few years. Have seen a white one in the flesh.
Meh - UJMs are a very capable and practical mount, and Honda makes quality bikes, but mildly tuned 4s would be just about the most boring ride out there for my money.
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My experience with valve clearance checks with shim under bucket designs has been that they rarely need adjusting. Often 40K to 50K miles and still in spec. Maintenance on the CB1100 will be easy if like most Japanese fours. Change the oil on schedule, lube the chain and ride.
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I don't like the seam along the edge of the tank. Looks cheap. Like the CB750. Oh yeah, that's what Honda was trying to do!?
I don't want to sound like a fan boy, but NOTHING about this bike looks cheap if you see it in the flesh. Paint, aluminum bits, fit, engine design, the whole thing say that this was designed from the ground up with a substantial investment in R&D.
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4s would be just about the most boring ride out there for my money.
I don't like the seam along the edge of the tank. Looks cheap.
I hear ya. I hear ya. That's been my experience in the past. Yes, that seam looks weird but that's like the old Hondas.
Still I kinda like it.
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I like the CB1100. It tugs at me because the first motorcycle I bought when I was 18 was a brand new 1974 CB750. I loved that bike! But nowadays I would plunk down the extra $1500 and get the CB1000R instead.
This things will run rings around the CB1100!! It has a proper sized gas tank too - 4.5 gallons.
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I hear you too, Dave, but that thing is just flat-out ugly to me. I do not like the under engine exhaust chunk. I liked the under-tail/seat pipes they had a few years ago and I bought a new red CBR1000 in 06-07. The trend then was to sleek them up and copy the Tamburini Ducatis with their tucked-in pipes.
The CBR was good but I didn't like it at speed. I would find myself having to over-shift it and run a gear higher than I wanted in order to keep the front wheel on the ground or the rear wheel from sliding when I powered out of curves. When BMW brought out the 1200S (with under-seat exhaust), it pushed all my buttons and I replaced the CBR with the Beemer. I can ride the twin faster than the high-strung 4 on curvy mountain roads.
I know we're veering off-thread here.
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Sorry,I just don't get all the hoopla. ???
It's just another Honda.
Exactly. Like some past girls-nice to look at and fun to ride but no depth of character. Souless is the Honda Way.
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Simple. It's the chrome fenders.
Who can resist chrome fenders?
hahahahahahahahahah ahahaha
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I (still) like it... ;-T
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I (still) like it... ;-T
Me too!
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Me three! But Motorcycle Consumer News, not so much. They liked the bike but complained about the suspension, lack of a 6-speed gearbox, and poor wind protection (WTF?) They did agree the fit and finish are outstanding, as others have posted here. I think MCN gets jaded by riding top-shelf bikes all the time.
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Doesn't do a thing for me.
A modernized UJM.
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Pretty bike but not for me.
Doesn't make my heart race.
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Me three! But Motorcycle Consumer News, not so much. They liked the bike but complained about the suspension, lack of a 6-speed gearbox, and poor wind protection (WTF?) They did agree the fit and finish are outstanding, as others have posted here. I think MCN gets jaded by riding top-shelf bikes all the time.
I like it because it DOESNT have a 6-speed. 5 gears are plenty for any bike. 4 is ideal. !!!
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I like it because it DOESNT have a 6-speed. 5 gears are plenty for any bike. 4 is ideal. !!!
like my stone 4 plus an overdrive and i only need 3 if i keep it under 60
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Coming from a 6 speed, a 6 speed would be nice. Motorcyclist magazine was impressed with the suspension; more so because it is so pedestrian. It works very well. Naturally many will want to upgrade some bits. I think that can really lead you away from what the bike is meant to be; in which case they should have bought a CBR1000R in the first place.
The ride is a bit more compliant than the Griso, not as flickable as the Griso and I suspect, not as competent at speed as the Griso. Not bad, just does not meet the higher bar the Griso sets.
It is what it is and if does not push your buttons you have lot's of other choices out there. I'm sure there are bikes out there to appeal to those without having to buy bits to "bring it up to spec.". I think one is better off buying farkles like tank bags, luggage racks and Vetter fairings. ::)
That said, I do have some serious concerns that the Guzzi V twin has spoiled me.
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Our local dealer has one and wants $10,000 for it. I thought that was a little high for a naked bike. JMO
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Does nothing for me, reminds me of this:
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Considering the level of finish and components, I don't think the price is out of line. To be perfectly fair, i think you also need to put a price on the fact that nothing on this bike needs to be "sorted" as is so common with our fair. Seriously- think of the dough and time you need to spend with the average Guzzi to get it running right. The whole idea that I need to put a power commander on my 1200 just so it won't pop and detonate is ridiculous.
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Our local dealer has one and wants $10,000 for it. I thought that was a little high for a naked bike. JMO
Inflation - there are plenty of naked bikes pushing that price tag now.
Including a V7 Racer.
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Does nothing for me, reminds me of this:
That's the whole idea.
It's SUPPOSED to remind you of that.
:bike
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Inflation - there are plenty of naked bikes pushing that price tag now.
Including a V7 Racer.
ALL of the Metric bikes have taken a leap in pricing.
I don't know about the Beemers, as we have no Beemer dealer around here.
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Does nothing for me, reminds me of this:
(http://www.cyclechaos.com/images/e/e1/1982-Kawasaki-KZ1000J-Red-0.jpg)
..and that's the biggest reason we have choice! Not everyone wants the same thing.
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Now that I'm a wee bit older and have had my tastes change I find the standards nice because with a wee bit of tweaking you can cafe' them out, turn them into touring machines or squid bikes. Or just leave it pretty much stock and do all of the above. They won't beat a purpose built bike but for street riding, in most cases, they will be good enough.
Now, if I can find the money and room for a Harley 48, an old naked Wing, a CB750 and maybe a CBX. ::) And that damn Quota keeps calling me back too.
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Considering the level of finish and components, I don't think the price is out of line. To be perfectly fair, i think you also need to put a price on the fact that nothing on this bike needs to be "sorted" as is so common with our fair. Seriously- think of the dough and time you need to spend with the average Guzzi to get it running right. The whole idea that I need to put a power commander on my 1200 just so it won't pop and detonate is ridiculous.
That is one of the reasons I went with the 2012 Griso. It had been out for a few years with nothing but praise for the fueling. There were some issues with the 2009's, but the revised fueling was all good. I just wanted to buy the bike and ride. I didn't want to have to fool with it and spend money on day one of ownership.
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I gotta say my 2012 Griso has been trouble free. High idle issue before the first service and that was fixed. Regular hooligan bike.
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Does nothing for me, reminds me of this:
(http://www.cyclechaos.com/images/e/e1/1982-Kawasaki-KZ1000J-Red-0.jpg)
wow, remember when 1000 was a monster bike
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I don't want to sound like a fan boy, but NOTHING about this bike looks cheap if you see it in the flesh. Paint, aluminum bits, fit, engine design, the whole thing say that this was designed from the ground up with a substantial investment in R&D.
Kind of like the Kawasaki W800. I wish Kawasaki would bring the W stateside.
I saw the CB1100 a couple years ago at the MSTA STAR event in Colorado. Honda was looking for feed back from the hundreds of riders that attended. I guess the feedback was positive enough for them to bring it here. I'm glad they did.
I like it, and think it's beautiful.
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I saw and was able to sit on the new CB1100 today. It looked smaller in reality than the pictures had made me think.
It's a well-done retro. I like it.
The dealer said he'd had many people look at it and eeeew and awww and talk about how they used to have one like it .... He said they'd then go on and look at something else. So, he is getting a lot of admiration but no sales yet.
Sound like the GB500?
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Some fork gators might remedy that.
:+1
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Kind of like the Kawasaki W800. I wish Kawasaki would bring the W stateside.
I saw the CB1100 a couple years ago at the MSTA STAR event in Colorado. Honda was looking for feed back from the hundreds of riders that attended. I guess the feedback was positive enough for them to bring it here. I'm glad they did.
I like it, and think it's beautiful.
I also wish Kaw would bring the W800 into the USA. Guess they're afraid of the same reception as with the W650. I owned one from Aug 2000 until the spring of 2007. It was not only well finished cosmetically, mechanically it was totally trouble-free, for 52,000 miles.
If I do decide the Griso8VSE isn't the bike for me, I would certainly consider the Honda CB1100. I need to see one in the flesh .... all I've seen is pics.
The comments about tire kickers looking at the bike but not buying ...... it's no wonder Kaw won't bring the W800 into the US. Honda may have done well to have required a deposit, rather than relying on the old "bring it to us, we'll buy it" line, from the US bike magazines. What the hell do they buy ..... I think their demo bike cost them nothing.
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considering the my Bandit, SV1000, Speed Triple, FZ-1, Z1000/Ninja 1000, CB1000R, Monster, Brutale, Grisso, even my V11 Sport........ modern bikes with power and handling.
Nope, (still) don't get it.
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I saw and was able to sit on the new CB1100 today. It looked smaller in reality than the pictures had made me think.
It's a well-done retro. I like it.
The dealer said he'd had many people look at it and eeeew and awww and talk about how they used to have one like it .... He said they'd then go on and look at something else. So, he is getting a lot of admiration but no sales yet.
Sound like the GB500?
My working theory is that they will sell the CB1100 to all the guys drooling over them, the market will then be saturated - after about a year or two and they'll drop it. But in Phoenix the interest has been darn good and they don't spend time on the showroom floor. I suspect that won't last.
But hey, if it turns into another W650, then I'll have a cult bike! :BEER:
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Does nothing for me, reminds me of this:
That's the whole idea.
It's SUPPOSED to remind you of that.
:bike
The WHOLE idea is that it did nothing for me back then.
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..and that's the biggest reason we have choice! Not everyone wants the same thing.
I don't get it.
Literally and figuratively!
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I also wish Kaw would bring the W800 into the USA. Guess they're afraid of the same reception as with the W650. I owned one from Aug 2000 until the spring of 2007. It was not only well finished cosmetically, mechanically it was totally trouble-free, for 52,000 miles.
If I do decide the Griso8VSE isn't the bike for me, I would certainly consider the Honda CB1100. I need to see one in the flesh .... all I've seen is pics.
The comments about tire kickers looking at the bike but not buying ...... it's no wonder Kaw won't bring the W800 into the US. Honda may have done well to have required a deposit, rather than relying on the old "bring it to us, we'll buy it" line, from the US bike magazines. What the hell do they buy ..... I think their demo bike cost them nothing.
As you know, the W650 was introduced before Triumph brought out their modern Bonne. I believe the fact that the Bonne is popular would actually help W sales if Kaw were to bring it stateside. Choice, in this case, would be a good thing methinks. Side by side the W is less cluttered than the Bonne and is more svelte. Plus, it has a true long stroke motor, and that W motor is a real gem.
I think the guy or gal that is interested in this type of bike is not all that concerned about hp and torque numbers as they are about the look, feel, fit, and finish of the bike. I believe the W has got the Bonne beat in those areas.
Not to mention there are a lot more Kaw dealers than Triumph dealers. Blah blah blah, this topic has already been beaten to death on multiple forums over the years. I'm just being selfish cuz I want a new W800 and can't get one while the rest of the world can. :'(
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OK, got to put some time on the freeway last night and found out this is one sneaky bike. There is a bit of the beast in her above 5000rpm. I'm supposed to keep her below 6K for the first 600 miles (darn easy to do, 3K around town is ideal and 4 puts you about 70mph in fifth) so I'm trying to be careful to not unleash her (the Griso was way too willing to romp) which so far is not a problem.
Honda has a 115mph limiter on them (left over from the home market firmware from what I've been told) but below that, this motor is more than willing. Oops. ;D
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Ron is it time to uncork that CB1100 now with a pipe and Powercommander-V :-)
Don't forget to let the shoulder heal up!!!
Chris
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I don't like the seam along the edge of the tank. Looks cheap. Like the CB750. Oh yeah, that's what Honda was trying to do!?
I agree with the seam on the tank - I see it on so many bikes these days, it is an eyesore to me.
I saw pictures of it with hard cases and it looked good - I would have posted a pic but I can't figure out how without a url.
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Being a teenager in the 70's, this is what a motorcycle is supposed to look like. I don't want one, but one of my buddies does bad. I do think Honda nailed the look and accomplished what they set out to do and it is a nice looking machine. ;-T
I have no problem with the tank seam, that's how tanks of that era were made! Better than swelling plastic tanks. ;D
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Ron is it time to uncork that CB1100 now with a pipe and Powercommander-V :-)
Don't forget to let the shoulder heal up!!!
Chris
I'm too cheap to do that. Besides; I"ve heard your stories and I'd just as soon avoid all that; sounds too much like work. :)
However; I would consider that four into four. Oh man that looks damn good.
Besides; if I wanted that sort of bike the CB1100 was the wrong bike to get. But I was thinking today, maybe I should purge the Griso and get a Racer.
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Yesterday my girlfriend's father and I went looking at bikes at several dealers, something we do when we visit in Ohio. We saw the offerings from just about every brand at 3 different shops. Of all the bikes I saw the CB1100 was the one I liked the best. Fit and finish is outstanding and the 4 cylinder air cooled motor looks huge. If I had 11k burning a hole in my pocket and room in the garage, I would buy one.
I also sat on a Ducati Panigale R. That is one tiny bike, both in legth and width. The thing that stood out on that bike was it came equipped with passenger foot pegs, but they were so high that even a midget would have her knees pressed up against her chest when seated. ???
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considering the my Bandit, SV1000, Speed Triple, FZ-1, Z1000/Ninja 1000, CB1000R, Monster, Brutale........ modern bikes with power and handling.
Nope, (still) don't get it.
Vive La Choice!
Considering there's not a bike on that list (I edited) that I have the SLIGHTEST INTEREST IN OWNING, YET I'D CONSIDER THE CB means YOU don't have to get it...
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Vive La Choice!
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Considering there's not a bike on that list (I edited) that I have the SLIGHTEST INTEREST IN OWNING, YET I'D CONSIDER THE CB means YOU don't have to get it...
And this coming from a guy who usually dismisses Hondas as boring, and also doesn't like bikes with more than two cylinders (some triples not withstanding).
If I didn't already have a V7C, I'd be torn between the new CB and a red & white V7 Special. I'd have to get a test ride on the CB to know which I'd choose.
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If I didn't already have a V7C, I'd be torn between the new CB and a red & white V7 Special. I'd have to get a test ride on the CB to know which I'd choose.
I can completely relate. I just went through this dilemma a few months ago. The V7C won. The CB1100 wasn't available for a test ride -- if it was, the outcome may have been different.
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I have been looking at the V7's, the CB1100 and a few other models quite hard and was concerned that the CB1100 would be either a replacement for the Griso (to much overlap in capabilities) or too similar to the V7.
Looks like it is more of a V7 replacement, kinda sorta. It runs in town much better than the Griso (a duty the V7 was to do) but it's too heavy to be an ideal town bike. If I need a lighter bike I have the XR650L with dual sport tires; torque off the chart and plenty of room for my 36" inseam (long legs and arms have been a big problem finding decent candidates for riding).
Too bad Moto Guzzi does not make a bike like the CB1100 chassis with V8 850cc to 1200cc motor. The ergos for me are much better on the CB but on the road I like that Griso motor (in town, not so much, especially in the summer as the heat just boils off it).
I like the front office of the CB and the V7's because I'm partial to round analog gauges.
So now I'm kinda looking at the racer again; better leg room than the special and it's not a standard like the CB.
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The CB is a beautifully executed design with top notch fit and finish. But the V7 with a longer range, lighter weight, and shaft drive checks all the boxes for my needs.
Regards, Paul
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If I didn't already have a V7C, I'd be torn between the new CB and a red & white V7 Special. I'd have to get a test ride on the CB to know which I'd choose.
The CB is a beautifully executed design with top notch fit and finish. But the V7 with a longer range, lighter weight, and shaft drive checks all the boxes for my needs.
I'd have to agree with Paul, that the nod would have to go to the V7 for the reasons he stated. I certainly haven't even considered giving up my V7C for a CB1100, but have already thought about trading it on a beautiful new red & white V7 Special.
Had Honda saw fit to put a 5 gallon tank on it, that would tilt things a little more even, but I still prefer not to have to mess with chain maintenance on the V7.
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Ideally it would be nice to have all of them. ~;
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Ideally it would be nice to have all of them. ~;
Yes it would, but I already seem to have too many.... ::)
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2012 V7 on this forum for sale cheap!! As much as I like the Honda, at his $7500 asking price what a value!
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It's a 2013, and not far from you!
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Yes, and its really nice. But o have reduced the herd down to three bikes with a great deal of effort. Must not backslide....must nooootttt.
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So after all of the fanfare, has anyone actually seen a CB1100 on the road, at least in the U.S.? I haven't. Wonder if it will be pulled from the market after a year or two, like the W650. I hope not.
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So after all of the fanfare, has anyone actually seen a CB1100 on the road, at least in the U.S.? I haven't. Wonder if it will be pulled from the market after a year or two, like the W650. I hope not.
I've seen one so far, but it was near our local Honda dealer so I have no idea if it was a purchase or just a test drive... ;)
They look nice to me, but I'm not shopping for a bike. Our V11 LeMans and the baby Breva are a nice collection in my eyes.
-Joe
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So after all of the fanfare, has anyone actually seen a CB1100 on the road, at least in the U.S.? I haven't. Wonder if it will be pulled from the market after a year or two, like the W650. I hope not.
I havent seen one on the road either. However, I know my local Honda dealer. Our kids go to school together. He says that he has sold 5 of them.
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Via the CB1100 owners forum there are several guys in Phoenix besides me that have them. Word is out that 2014's can be ordered here in the states, but in Australia it has been discontinued.
I have not been out much on mine, between crash (and now surgery) recovery, weather and vacation as well as a 650L and the GRiso to ride (owning four bikes is a cool concept in theory but in reality not such a great idea - but it was a complete accident anyway...) so getting it seen on the road has been a bit problematic.
In a month or so the weather will be better, hopefully the herd will be smaller and I can ride again.
I think they have sold well enough in most areas but I also think it's a limited market and once Honda sells them to all that want one; sales will fall flat quickly. In about five years folks will be clamering for them and they can't be had for wine or song.
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So after all of the fanfare, has anyone actually seen a CB1100 on the road, at least in the U.S.? I haven't. Wonder if it will be pulled from the market after a year or two, like the W650. I hope not.
One of my buddy's sons bought one after owning a Kawasaki 1000. He loves it!
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Test ride the CB1100 and you will find one significant fault. It is a prodigious vibrator with tons of second order vibration. I don't think it has any balancer shafts, but I am not sure. The old CB750's were pretty smooth compared to their competition back in 1969 but the increased displacement to 1100 cc of the new model makes a big impact. The CB1000R with a balancer shaft is much smoother than the CB1100 but also gets buzzy over about 5K RPMS.
As motors get bigger, expect more vibration. Some of it is countered by running taller gearing, but the CB1100 does not have tall gearing. I have a 1973 Ducati 750GT that is much smoother than the air-cooled Ducati 1100 motors today. The 750GT has fairly modest displacement and fairly tall gearing. No, it is not particularly fast compared to today's bikes, but is smooth at elevated highway speeds.
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I saw a couple of comments on how much a Griso weighs. You can weigh your bike with a bathroom scale, assuming it will go up to 300 pounds or so. All you need is a scale and a couple of 2X4's.
Put one end of the bike on the scale and the other end on the 2X4 and the sidestand on a 2X4. Mark down the weight. Reverse the scale & 2X4 to the other wheel leaving the 2X4 under the sidestand and mark down the second weight. Now put the scale under the sidestand with the 2X4's under the wheels. Record the third weight. Add up the three weights and you have an accurate measure. Maybe not so easy to do, but it is accurate.
Much easier if you have a centerstand (measure centerstand & front wheel only) but the weight on the centerstand can exceed 300lbs.
I recently weighed my old Ducati 750GT both ways and the measurements matched within 2 lbs. (433 and 435 lbs.)
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Hello,
Yes indeed, this is a fine looking machine! But I got friend's comments who test-rided it that it is a dull machine whithout vibes and soul.
Gosh, a dull machine without vibes and soul... from Honda?
Unheard of!
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Somewhere in the upper 3000rpm range a buzz creeps in. Below that (and in town you'll spend most of your time between 2200 and 3400, mostly right around 3K) it is as smooth as glass and very torquey. Above 65mph I prefer the Griso motor but I have not spent a good hour or more at speed so I reserve the right to change my mind. Short 20 minute bursts at speed seem to be pleasant enough. Just not as pleasant as the Griso joy box. Any vibration I've seen is very minor and of low amplitude (but of a higher frequency than the Moto Guzzi). My Quota thumped more at 5K than this bike.
It's no Griso in the handling department either but then the focus of the two bikes is completely different. If you want a Griso type bike you would not look or waste your time with the CB1100. I'm only comparing them because I have both. Not good data points to start with but better than nothing!
It has character, like most bikes have, it's just not in your face like a V twin can be. Put the time in, get to know the bike (any bike) and the character will reveal its's self. Not saying you will like it, but you'll see it. There are a lot of good bikes out there. Plenty for us to choose from (and making it very unlikely we'll all choose the same bike for even the same reasons.
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Anybody mention that Honda is offering 1.99% APR for up to 36-months on the 2013 CB1100?
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I saw a couple of comments on how much a Griso weighs. You can weigh your bike with a bathroom scale, assuming it will go up to 300 pounds or so. All you need is a scale and a couple of 2X4's.
Put one end of the bike on the scale and the other end on the 2X4 and the sidestand on a 2X4. Mark down the weight. Reverse the scale & 2X4 to the other wheel leaving the 2X4 under the sidestand and mark down the second weight. Now put the scale under the sidestand with the 2X4's under the wheels. Record the third weight. Add up the three weights and you have an accurate measure. Maybe not so easy to do, but it is accurate.
Much easier if you have a centerstand (measure centerstand & front wheel only) but the weight on the centerstand can exceed 300lbs.
I recently weighed my old Ducati 750GT both ways and the measurements matched within 2 lbs. (433 and 435 lbs.)
Sorry- I'm missing something. When I read instructions, I take them quite literally. You don't describe how to rig the 2x4s. Whe you say "put he other end on a 2x4", do you mean simply block a section of 2x4 under the wheel and another section under the sidestand?
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I think he uses 2X4's to counteract the height of the bathroom scale, to keep the bike level.
Makes sense to me.
Darren
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If the bike is long and the scale short the induced error will be small. I suspect for most scales of moderate height the error would be small enough to ignore.
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I didn't need to know about that 1.99% APR offer...
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I didn't need to know about that 1.99% APR offer...
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now as long as i don't find a honda dealer that will take a centauro in trade I'm safe.
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now as long as i don't find a honda dealer that will take a centauro in trade I'm safe.
I have first dibbies on that Centy!!! ;) No trades prior to my right of first refusal!! :D ~; My fair offer of $500 stills stands. ;-T I didn't say fair to who though. :D ~;
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Anybody mention that Honda is offering 1.99% APR for up to 36-months on the 2013 CB1100?
What would guys our age be doing with getting further into debt and taking on another payment .... ? :o
I made 4 payments on a Harley Davidson in 1984 when I was 30, realized how bad I was getting hosed, and paid it off with real money ... haven't BTDT again .... 8)
Lannis
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I finally went to my Honda dealer. The CB was gathering dust along with lots of new high tech (capable) bikes, the new 250/500/700 economy-tech bikes, cruisers and Wings.
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Because i can borrow their money at 1.9 and invest mine for a higher return
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Because i can borrow their money at 1.9 and invest mine for a higher return
It's awful hard to make 2%+ off of $8 or $10k in the short term. **C
Besides which, you aren't getting the same deal for the bike when you buy it on time as you would if you paid cash for it. That difference alone would swamp out any premium you'd make over what you borrowed ....
There's a reason why bankers and financiers are the wealthy guys ..... ;D
Lannis
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Too bad Moto Guzzi does not make a bike like the CB1100 chassis with V8 850cc to 1200cc motor.
Or something based on the Bellagio.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HCpJ2PMrWKQ/Ue-0LeFZG7I/AAAAAAAAvoM/ZG4OVbHhwg8/s1600/Moto+Guzzi+Bellagio+936+CR+02.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-w6rs8OmIXM8/Ue-0K9r_AdI/AAAAAAAAvoA/j7WdfaVRXBs/s1600/Moto+Guzzi+Bellagio+936+CR+01.jpg)
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This bike looks small compared to the CB750. One of the friends bought one and the seat height is low. He has about a couple of hundred miles on it now. He says that he'll use it around town. ::) ::) ::) The red paint is pretty.
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Or something based on the Bellagio.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HCpJ2PMrWKQ/Ue-0LeFZG7I/AAAAAAAAvoM/ZG4OVbHhwg8/s1600/Moto+Guzzi+Bellagio+936+CR+02.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-w6rs8OmIXM8/Ue-0K9r_AdI/AAAAAAAAvoA/j7WdfaVRXBs/s1600/Moto+Guzzi+Bellagio+936+CR+01.jpg)
WANT!
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This bike looks small compared to the CB750. One of the friends bought one and the seat height is low. He has about a couple of hundred miles on it now. He says that he'll use it around town. ::) ::) ::) The red paint is pretty.
From the questionable rose coloured memories (I spent little if any time on a CB750) it is about the size of the CB900 as I remember it. I would be instructive to place one side by side with an older 750.
This guy has installed the White House kit; simply amazing.
http://www.cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1123
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WANT!
Made in Spain, by the guys of Italo Motos.
http://racingcafe.blogspot.it/2013/07/moto-guzzi-bellagio-936-cr-by-italo.html
It's impressive how simple the conversion is to make a so attractive bike, V7 Racer tank and saddle, lower handlebar, a small modification to the side panels, and the job is done (there are the Griso pipes, but they are not so important to me).
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Tougher to do with a Griso chassis.
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Or something based on the Bellagio.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HCpJ2PMrWKQ/Ue-0LeFZG7I/AAAAAAAAvoM/ZG4OVbHhwg8/s1600/Moto+Guzzi+Bellagio+936+CR+02.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-w6rs8OmIXM8/Ue-0K9r_AdI/AAAAAAAAvoA/j7WdfaVRXBs/s1600/Moto+Guzzi+Bellagio+936+CR+01.jpg)
Now that is just a gorgeous, gorgeous bike. Still not a fan of number plates on street bikes but wow, that thing is clean and executed perfectly. From a visual standpoint anyway. I'll have to tell myself that it's probably a pig to ride so I don't lust after it too much.
Tobit.
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Vive La Choice!
Considering there's not a bike on that list (I edited) that I have the SLIGHTEST INTEREST IN OWNING, YET I'D CONSIDER THE CB means YOU don't have to get it...
You wouldn't be interested in a Monster or a Speed Triple? I've had three Triples and loved them - hated the one absolutely gorgeous Monster I rode. I think if you like the Griso you will like the Speedie...
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I had resisted the charm of the CB until I saw it up close at Rockerbox. A very good looking bike!!
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee165/dswansbiker/Rockerbox2013023_zps81e013ac.jpg) (http://s233.photobucket.com/user/dswansbiker/media/Rockerbox2013023_zps81e013ac.jpg.html)
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Besides which, you aren't getting the same deal for the bike when you buy it on time as you would if you paid cash for it.
Facts not in evidence, especially if dealer gets a piece of the finance pie.
You wouldn't be interested in a Monster or a Speed Triple? I've had three Triples and loved them - hated the one absolutely gorgeous Monster I rode. I think if you like the Griso you will like the Speedie...
We own a Monster, I've ridden a number of sporting Triumphs, including a Speed Triple. Still not interested.
Griso is a different animal to me, though I'd probably still pass on it.
Or something based on the Bellagio.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HCpJ2PMrWKQ/Ue-0LeFZG7I/AAAAAAAAvoM/ZG4OVbHhwg8/s1600/Moto+Guzzi+Bellagio+936+CR+02.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-w6rs8OmIXM8/Ue-0K9r_AdI/AAAAAAAAvoA/j7WdfaVRXBs/s1600/Moto+Guzzi+Bellagio+936+CR+01.jpg)
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :drool :drool :drool
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For 2014, the CB1100EX will have wire wheels, 4-2 exhaust and a 6-speed tranny plus some chrome trim on the clocks.
(http://www.motorradonline.de/sixcms/media.php/11/thumbnails/080_Honda%20CB%201100%20EX.jpg.2757350.jpg)
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^^^ Did Honda enlarge the fuel tank? I see conflicting info on this.
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For 2014, the CB1100EX will have wire wheels, 4-2 exhaust and a 6-speed tranny plus some chrome trim on the clocks.
(http://www.motorradonline.de/sixcms/media.php/11/thumbnails/080_Honda%20CB%201100%20EX.jpg.2757350.jpg)
Those are some nice changes! ;-T
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For 2014, the CB1100EX will have wire wheels, 4-2 exhaust and a 6-speed tranny plus some chrome trim on the clocks.
(http://www.motorradonline.de/sixcms/media.php/11/thumbnails/080_Honda%20CB%201100%20EX.jpg.2757350.jpg)
Shame on the additional chrome and the wheels - oh well...
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For 2014, the CB1100EX will have wire wheels, 4-2 exhaust and a 6-speed tranny plus some chrome trim on the clocks.
(http://www.motorradonline.de/sixcms/media.php/11/thumbnails/080_Honda%20CB%201100%20EX.jpg.2757350.jpg)
From the Land of Bland, Yawn.
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I like it, but I don't enjoy cleaning spokes.
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I like it, but I don't enjoy cleaning spokes.
I don't enjoy it either, but I have an excellent and effective solution for my lack of enjoyment .... ! ;) :D
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I like the black engine/transmission of the standard CB1100. When I saw the 2013 CB1100 in person there were certain angles which the engine looked very wide and blocky. The black color may visually shrink the big inline 4 engine.
(http://www.lerepairedesmotards.com/img/actu/2013/nouveaute/honda-cb1100-cb1100ex-noir_hd.jpg)
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I like the black engine/transmission of the standard CB1100. When I saw the 2013 CB1100 in person there were certain angles which the engine looked very wide and blocky. The black color may visually shrink the big inline 4 engine.
(http://www.lerepairedesmotards.com/img/actu/2013/nouveaute/honda-cb1100-cb1100ex-noir_hd.jpg)
I like it. Now, of the shelf Vetter Windjammer, JC Whitney bags, JCW highway bars and pre-rusted lights and we're right back in the 70's.
Chevrolet and Ford.... Please, oh please bring back the Vega and Pinto as well! ~;
Seriously though - you're right about the black one TRAVMAN - it runs everything together nicely.
For all of the other manufacturer's gas about their "standards"... Here's your sign. (copyright pending). :BEER:
Wait... what? No Comstars!?!
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I don't get it. What does this bike have that old CB1100F doesn't have besides less power and performance? Maybe Honda should've have gone back 30 years to emulate their 4 cyl machines rather than 40?
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I don't get it. What does this bike have that old CB1100F doesn't have besides less power and performance? Maybe Honda should've have gone back 30 years to emulate their 4 cyl machines rather than 40?
Q: What does it have that the old CB1100F doesn't have?
A: It isn't 30 years old.
Some people want the old look w/o having a bike that is actually 30 years old, with the needs that come with age, no matter how low the mileage might be. It is also somewhat lighter. IIRC, the old CB1100F is around 620 583 lbs (wet).
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Thankfully the black wheels appear to be gone!
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Kudos! I like. I keep thinking if it was a 750 - smaller and lighter engine, I would like to try one out.
I saw the 2013 on the dealers sales floor and it is nicely made. ♥ But it is a small "big" bike - nice physical size for me except it looks too heavy with that big and wide engine. (I guess I am spoiled by my slim and light Guzzi V7c!)
Honda OEM custom bits and dealer accessories for it might be good for the business! 8) $$
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Q: What does it have that the old CB1100F doesn't have?
... IIRC, the old CB1100F is around 620 lbs....
I'm thinking closer to 535 lbs before fluids..I could be wrong.
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580 lb wet from memory.
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:pop
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:pop
What weighs more, a pound of bricks, or a pound of that popcorn?
not counting the butter!
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What weighs more, a pound of bricks, or a pound of that popcorn?
not counting the butter!
depends whether it's a 750 or an 1100.
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I'm thinking closer to 535 lbs before fluids..I could be wrong.
580 lb wet from memory.
Yes, 583 lb wet on two different sources (I corrected my original post too).
So, that is about 150 reasons to like the V7 better. ;D
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I'm starting to kick myself for not waiting for the 2014. Damn fine looking bike with a larger tank and a 6th over drive gear. To add insult to injury, rumor has it the rims are tubeless!!
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I'm starting to kick myself for not waiting for the 2014. Damn fine looking bike with a larger tank and a 6th over drive gear. To add insult to injury, rumor has it the rims are tubeless!!
How would you know? Don't be so tough on yourself. Your 2013 doesn't look that different cosmetically from the 2014 model, and once you're on the road, who's going to know, aside from you, that your bike has a 5 speed? I think you purchased a retro that'll still be in your stable long after others have moved along.
Bob
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How would you know? Don't be so tough on yourself. Your 2013 doesn't look that different cosmetically from the 2014 model, and once you're on the road, who's going to know, aside from you, that your bike has a 5 speed? I think you purchased a retro that'll still be in your stable long after others have moved along.
Bob
Exactly, a retro bike needs some "character" (see other thread ;D ) or else it would just be a cookie cutter standard. I have a 2004 Thruxton that has so many short coming compared to other bikes around, but I so enjoy riding it even with it's tube tires, 5 speed gear box, carbs, and unsophisticated suspension. Those "short comings" make you have to interact with the bike and learn how to ride it effectively. That is what is endearing about the bikes.
Of course, the retro look of the 60's Brit bikes is motorcycle art, IMHO anyway. I'm sure anyone who has bought a CB1100 feels the same way when looking at it!
Darren
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How would you know? Don't be so tough on yourself. Your 2013 doesn't look that different cosmetically from the 2014 model, and once you're on the road, who's going to know, aside from you, that your bike has a 5 speed? I think you purchased a retro that'll still be in your stable long after others have moved along.
Bob
I'll keep it, it's the faster red. But once you ride one (and the Griso has six speeds so the foot wants to keep shifting) and hit about 75 you naturally want to hit 6. I happen to like spokes too, not that the black cast wheels look bad though. If (and that seems to be a big if lately) I tour a larger tank would be nice. The Quota had poor range - mostly due to being thirsty - so it made me appreciate a 200 mile range. The Griso is worse in this regard.
For what I tend to use the bike for, in town, near town riding, it's a much better tool than the Griso and I enjoy it very much.
If Honda came out with a retro naked GL1000/GL1100 flat four I think I'd be all over that. If it had EFI. :) But I have to say, Moto Guzzi has spoiled me on twins and MG and my Honda XR650L have really spoiled me on torque (the CB1100 does have a boat load of torque).
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I'm starting to kick myself for not waiting for the 2014. Damn fine looking bike with a larger tank and a 6th over drive gear. To add insult to injury, rumor has it the rims are tubeless!!
No offense, but that's a tough way to go through life. I imagine the new and improved 2019 CB1100 will be even better than this 2014 version, but I'm not waiting. The experiences and pleasure each bike can provide, like any bike you truly love, can't be bought or sold. Woulda coulda shoulda will just have you chasing your tail.
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No offense, but that's a tough way to go through life. I imagine the new and improved 2019 CB1100 will be even better than this 2014 version, but I'm not waiting. The experiences and pleasure each bike can provide, like any bike you truly love, can't be bought or sold. Woulda coulda shoulda will just have you chasing your tail.
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WOOF
Deeogee .
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Is that a tail-wagging woof or a "I sniffed your butt and didn't like it" woof?
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Is that a tail-wagging woof or a "I sniffed your butt and didn't like it" woof?
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WOOF WOOF ;-T
Deeogee
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Honda has officially announced two CB1100 models for the USA for 2014. There is a basic black model and a red Deluxe model. The basic CB1100 has a single side exhaust, black engine and wheels. This model reminds me of Triumph's Bonneville black. The Deluxe model has a silver engine and wheels, slightly larger tank, dual exhausts, and a fancier stitched seat. Both models get a six speed transmission and revised side panels. There are no spoke wheels.
http://powersports.honda.com/2014/cb1100.aspx
Basic model
(http://powersports.honda.com/Assets/Models/2014_CB1100_2000x1275_Black_42515B.jpg)
Deluxe
(http://powersports.honda.com/Assets/Models/2014_CB1100DLX_2000x1275_CandyRed_42515B.jpg)
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The basic black looks a little bit like the CB1000, one of the nicest looking bikes ever to come out of Japan IMNSHO
(http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr354/Z400G/MC%20diverse/1994-Honda-CB1000a_zps4af9196d.jpg)
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I like those, even though they are 4-cylinder bikes.
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Interesting. Across the pond, the "Deluxe" is called the CB1100EX but comes with spokes, not mags. It has the same 4-into-2 exhaust.
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Big mistake omitting the spoke wheels from the deluxe model.
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Completely agree. The absence of spokes just saved me $11k!
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(http://acidmoto.ch/cms/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/01_honda_cb1100_lomo_1.jpg)
Limited edition Dark Racer for Switzerland http://acidmoto.ch/cms/content/news/2014/02/19/honda-suisse-celebre-ses-40-ans-avec-une-serie-exclusive-limitee-dark-racer
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^^^^ If only Honda would sell something like this in the USA....
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Saw a black CB1100F in the flesh today. It was surprisingly small. I think my Z650 appear larger. At least my old thing as a much taller, wider and longer seat, if nothing else :D
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paint it black
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Saw a black CB1100F in the flesh today. It was surprisingly small. I think my Z650 appear larger. At least my old thing as a much taller, wider and longer seat, if nothing else :D
You know, I've noted that as well and since it also applies - for me - to bikes like old Triumphs, Nortons and the like, I ascribe it to the effect of returning to a childhood home and noting the miniscule scale of things. I just always have the childs's awe for these early Honda UJMs. They were such looming beasts and were erased so completely by following, fairing encased racers that they got pushed back into the emotional corner of childhood memory.
Funnier still that they were derided for being too tall, too long and too heavy when compared to their product line replacements.
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On the CB1100 forum many of the guys dislike spokes so I suspect Honda decided the fickle American market wanted/preferred cast wheels instead of spokes.
That said, one of the things that grabbed me about the Griso SE were the spoked wheels. I don't miss spoked wheels on my CB1100, kinda goes with the inline four UJM thing making it that much of a different beast from the Griso.
Now the talk is if Honda will bring her back for 2015. :)
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On the CB1100 forum many of the guys dislike spokes so I suspect Honda decided the fickle American market wanted/preferred cast wheels instead of spokes.
That said, one of the things that grabbed me about the Griso SE were the spoked wheels. I don't miss spoked wheels on my CB1100, kinda goes with the inline four UJM thing making it that much of a different beast from the Griso.
Now the talk is if Honda will bring her back for 2015. :)
Whatever they did, at least they didn't put on authentic or even retro Comstars.
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paint it black
Yes, and the cast wheels make sense to me. I won't be a buyer, but I hope Honda sells a bunch of 'em.
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Rode this for 75 miles today since my brand new V7R is now out of commission. Is it the do all, end all bike? No. Does it make 100 HP? No. Does it have spokes like my brand new out of commission Guzzi? No. Does the tank hold as much as my Guzzi's? No. Am I happier with it sitting in my garage then on the dealers showroom floor? Yes!
(http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b492/Frulk/untitled_zpsxmofamht.png)
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Really cool seat on that CB.
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Nice update to an older generation design. That seat really pulls it together and even looks comfy.
Not if they'd only do something about this:
(http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag263/NorgePilot/FullView_zpsi3wcvxjv.jpg) (http://s1370.photobucket.com/user/NorgePilot/media/FullView_zpsi3wcvxjv.jpg.html)
(http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag263/NorgePilot/LSideBeauty_zpslzl8eshm.jpg) (http://s1370.photobucket.com/user/NorgePilot/media/LSideBeauty_zpslzl8eshm.jpg.html)
If Honda decided to go the route of the CB1100 with updates, I'd buy one in a second. The ST series are too plain vanilla, had one.
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I wish Honda came out with a Hondaline Sport fairing like on your Sabre there. Only a lighter weight version. The original was a beast.
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There is a guy in SoCAL making decent fairings for the Hondas, Painted they look really nice. They are full fairings and come with mounting hardware.
Price is reasonable, reasonable being what the guy making will will accept to send you one.
If you need contact info, I can dig it up. Last I checked in with him was about 2 years ago, before I found a Hondaline that someone didn't need.
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I wish Honda came out with a Hondaline Sport fairing like on your Sabre there. Only a lighter weight version. The original was a beast.
Found it, here you go:
Spec II
12866 Foothill Blvd
Sylmar, CA 91342
Tel. : (818) 837-1313
Fax : (818) 837-1224
Lighter than original Hondalines and better mounts.
The website is here:
http://www.spec2.com/index2.html
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Yes, the CB1100 may seem a bit dull, but I like, and I would like it more if it weighed less.
I'm sure it's smooth, but this could be trick photography:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP4SiBKH-2o
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No trick anything. I just did the same thing with a shot glass sitting on a ribbed seat and brought the RPMs up to 7K
Sorry for the quality of the video. Sent from Phone to my computer to Photobucket
http://vid1288.photobucket.com/albums/b492/Frulk/IMG_02761_zpsoh3z0avu.mp4 (http://vid1288.photobucket.com/albums/b492/Frulk/IMG_02761_zpsoh3z0avu.mp4)
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Found it, here you go:
Spec II
12866 Foothill Blvd
Sylmar, CA 91342
Tel. : (818) 837-1313
Fax : (818) 837-1224
Lighter than original Hondalines and better mounts.
The website is here:
http://www.spec2.com/index2.html
Thank you sir!
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I'll have to try to contact him. Website is seriously out of date,
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I bought a new Cb1100 two months ago. Added Ikon shocks, Arrow exhaust, and a custom Sargent seat. Was going to buy a V7, but I chose the Cb1100 instead. No regrets, a very fun bike. kind of in-between my Buell and my CALVIN.
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I'll have to try to contact him. Website is seriously out of date,
Yeah, he is more into making stuff than making a website. He'll send you pictures along with pricing and delivery times. He was pretty responsive and those that have his fairing seem to feel they are quality items.
They aren't something like a factory fairing with double walls and storage areas but that is probably something you could build in yourself. They are made of fiberglass, not the resin or plastics you usually find.
Good luck.