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Title: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on May 25, 2013, 05:24:11 PM
I finally pulled the trigger on a 1993 Daytona 1000! I've been lusting after the Daytona 1000 since the late '90's but for whatever reason my desire for one had an uptick over the last year so I've gone and done it. I picked it up this morning and took the long way home.....

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Moto%20Guzzi/DSCN7556.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Moto%20Guzzi/DSCN7560.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Moto%20Guzzi/DSCN7559.jpg)

Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: fotoguzzi on May 25, 2013, 05:27:04 PM
Stunning!
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Stormtruck2 on May 25, 2013, 05:27:04 PM
 "Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona"


BUT I DO!!!!!
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: rocker59 on May 25, 2013, 05:29:05 PM
I like the front fork conversion.  What did the come off of?
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: oldmxdog61u on May 25, 2013, 05:31:21 PM
SweeeeeetSweeeeeet
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Penderic on May 25, 2013, 05:56:30 PM
Wow! That looks so good! Enjoy it.... lucky you!  ;)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on May 25, 2013, 06:10:44 PM
I like the front fork conversion.  What did the come off of?

It's a GSX-R front end. It was done by the previous owner. I have the OEM forks, front fender, brakes etc. so I can return it to stock if I want to but after the long ride home today I don't want to.....

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Moto%20Guzzi/DSCN7557.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Moto%20Guzzi/DSCN7558.jpg)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: LDB on May 25, 2013, 08:39:44 PM
What a beautiful bike!!!
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: tazio on May 25, 2013, 09:52:05 PM
Ask yourself,.. WWJD.    =What Would (Dr.) John Do?
Ride it!
Ride the hell out of it!
Ride every mile like it was your last!
 :bow  ;-T :bow ;-T :bow
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: oldbike54 on May 25, 2013, 10:14:42 PM
Ask yourself,.. WWJD.    =What Would (Dr.) John Do?
Ride it!
Ride the hell out of it!
Ride every mile like it was your last!
 :bow  ;-T :bow ;-T :bow
Tazio best advice ever .
Dusty
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on May 26, 2013, 11:28:36 AM
Ask yourself,.. WWJD.    =What Would (Dr.) John Do?
Ride it!
Ride the hell out of it!
Ride every mile like it was your last!
 :bow  ;-T :bow ;-T :bow

I hear ya! I rode this bike in the late '90's when it had the OEM front end on and there is no comparison to it's current set up. I liked the bike then but now....wow.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: LDB on May 26, 2013, 02:26:26 PM
I like the two different color gauge faces.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Tom on May 26, 2013, 02:34:00 PM
 :+1 on the front-end.  Oem a little on the wimpy side. 
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: rocker59 on May 26, 2013, 08:21:48 PM
I like the two different color gauge faces.

Hold over from the Tonti LeMans.

I like 'em, too!   ;-T

1991 LeMans
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/2012/i-gt4bBTn/0/M/DSCN9616-M.jpg)

1996 Sport 1100
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/miscellaneous-bike-photos/i-stxth3M/0/M/DSCN2101-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Mark West on May 26, 2013, 09:08:53 PM
That's a beauty. Like the gold wheels also. Looks like it's been well taken care of.

Congratulations!
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: AH Fan on May 26, 2013, 09:11:11 PM
Congrats...... welcome to the club......... just wondering,looks like your front light has not fogged over...? is that not an OEM unit as well?

Regards;  ;-T
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Turin on May 27, 2013, 02:32:46 AM
Welcome to the daytona club! That looks fantastic, and I love the gold wheels. The only thing I would do is dump the tokico calipers for some brembos. You will feel the difference.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on May 27, 2013, 04:49:46 AM
Welcome to the daytona club! That looks fantastic, and I love the gold wheels. The only thing I would do is dump the tokico calipers for some brembos. You will feel the difference.

Oh yeah, that's one of the first things I'd like to do. The Tokico's seem sacrilegious on this bike. I've been planning on upgrading the front brake and clutch etc. on my Sport 1100 with brembo units as well so I might as well start buying stock in the company.....
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: sdcr on May 27, 2013, 05:32:59 AM
Wow, what a nice addition to your collection!

 Stunning looks, and I bet it sounds like Gods own thunder!

John
83 Lemans III
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: DaGoose on May 27, 2013, 08:32:41 AM
congratulations
that looks like such a sweet ride


Willie
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: jcctx on May 27, 2013, 09:00:18 AM
                 :>)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Tom on May 27, 2013, 03:59:43 PM
The hard part now is to score a "Daytona" tee and pin.  ;D ;D ;D  Keep your eyes open and do some rallies.  :+1
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: AH Fan on May 27, 2013, 09:08:53 PM
Turin....... you ever have any issues with the front lens fogging on yours ...... or on the others that you know of? :bow
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Tom on May 27, 2013, 11:41:11 PM
IIRC.  Something to do with the H4 bulb and the ozone in the air.  Kind of like smoke coming from a fire.  A cotton ball with alcohol should clean it off.  You just have to be good with chopsticks.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: AH Fan on May 28, 2013, 12:00:02 AM
Thanks Tom   :D........ seems there is a lot of that going on with MGs...... had the same thing happen with a V-11......... kind of a B--ch getting in there on this one.

Cheers
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Tom on May 28, 2013, 12:06:37 AM
Hope it helps.  Without the forum, I don't know how the help would get to you.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Turin on May 28, 2013, 02:41:18 AM
nnnever had a problem with the headlight fogging, but i'm in dry arizona.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Vasco DG on May 28, 2013, 04:45:38 AM
For heavens sakes don't worry about the origin of the brakes or fork! Tokis are great brakes, better than period Brembos but you'll ger through pads at a great rate, guess how I know!

The forks are I presume yer standard Showas? Great, great fork. Yes for ultimate feel and compliance Ohlins are better but you'll pay a price in servicing and parts. The nice thing about Showas is that they are not only easily tuned and rebuilt but since just about every Japanese Sportsbike spares are readily available from Captain Fleabay. They are infinitely nicer than the original 'Zocchis or whatever they had WP's? At the end of the day the Showas are a much better thing than anything other than the absolute 'Creme deLa creme' suspension units. No shame in having them on a truly great Guzzi like a Daytona.

Pete
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Tom on May 28, 2013, 02:40:55 PM
nnnever had a problem with the headlight fogging, but i'm in dry arizona.

Y'ep has to be with humidity and length of time the headlight is on.  Must be ozone residue from cooking off the moisture.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on May 28, 2013, 06:26:42 PM
Congrats...... welcome to the club......... just wondering,looks like your front light has not fogged over...? is that not an OEM unit as well?

Regards;  ;-T

It is the OEM unit, no issues with it fogging over as per the previous owner.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on May 28, 2013, 06:50:26 PM
For heavens sakes don't worry about the origin of the brakes or fork! Tokis are great brakes, better than period Brembos but you'll ger through pads at a great rate, guess how I know!

The forks are I presume yer standard Showas? Great, great fork. Yes for ultimate feel and compliance Ohlins are better but you'll pay a price in servicing and parts. The nice thing about Showas is that they are not only easily tuned and rebuilt but since just about every Japanese Sportsbike spares are readily available from Captain Fleabay. They are infinitely nicer than the original 'Zocchis or whatever they had WP's? At the end of the day the Showas are a much better thing than anything other than the absolute 'Creme deLa creme' suspension units. No shame in having them on a truly great Guzzi like a Daytona.

Pete

I do plan on leaving the GSX-R front end on. I rode this bike years ago when it was stock and although it was a while ago from what I remember there's no comparison with the OEM unit. The GSX-R front end really improves the turning performance. It doesn't have the same "rocket on rails" feel that the OEM unit had on long sweepers but it's much more flickable now. I'm not sure of the year/model GSX-R the front end came off of. I'm trying to narrow that down as we speak.

I may change out the brakes but with modern Brembo units not period ones but for now I'm leaving them on as I want to upgrade the brakes on the Sport 1100 first.

The one thing I would like to do is find matching wheels. If you look close you may notice that the front wheel is from the GSX-R donor and the rear wheel is OEM. They are similar but not the same. The previous owner painted them gold to match. I think that kind of plays a trick on your eyes and you tend to not notice that they are different.

Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Kentktk on May 28, 2013, 08:19:20 PM
Looks great and well done upgrade with those forks. Be quiet on those wheels, no one will ever notice and if they do who cares.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: geezerboy on May 28, 2013, 09:08:01 PM
 Congratulations ! What an absolutely stunning motorcycle
    Geezerboy





07 Norge
03 Nomad
47 Chief
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: oldmxdog61u on July 03, 2013, 09:00:58 PM
Wow! I could really dig it. That's a very beautiful bike!
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: leafman60 on July 04, 2013, 06:36:57 AM
The Daytona series is, for me, the best-looking sporty bike they've built.

Congrats.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 22, 2014, 12:07:46 PM
Although I have big plans for it (don't we all have those?) I haven't done to much with the Daytona so far other change out to a K&N air filter.

Before:
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/IMG_20140608_1328425311.jpg)

After:
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/IMG_20140907_144032408.jpg)

It was a rider for the previous owners as well as me so I think I'm going to tear it down this winter for a complete detail/cleaning and to replace anything needing it. A lot of the rubber and plastic clamps, fitting etc. are cracking and showing signs of wear and age. The previous owner DIY'd the wheels gold and it's starting to show so I'll either redo them properly or upgrade them, something I've wanted to do since purchasing it, while it's torn down.

 
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on September 22, 2014, 01:15:44 PM
Hey, Rocker.. I see the lemon voltmeter is still reading low. Just for giggles, why don't you pull the fuses, clean up the connectors and put new fuses in it? That cured the same problem on the Lario.. IIRC it was the forward fuse in the stack that was the culprit.
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/2012/i-gt4bBTn/0/M/DSCN9616-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Curtis Harper on September 22, 2014, 03:01:17 PM
Not to put any sort of a jinx on the Daytona or you, but since I watch the parts supply very closely especially on the 10 years plus bikes. Find head guards. I don't have them anymore, but someone still makes them. Daytona / Centauro valve covers are just plain not available. So protect them with good headguards. Could render the machine unusable, which is no good.

PS Love the bike!
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: rocker59 on September 22, 2014, 03:32:12 PM
Hey, Rocker.. I see the lemon voltmeter is still reading low. Just for giggles, why don't you pull the fuses, clean up the connectors and put new fuses in it? That cured the same problem on the Lario.. IIRC it was the forward fuse in the stack that was the culprit.
(http://rocker59.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/2012/i-gt4bBTn/0/M/DSCN9616-M.jpg)

Yes.  Reading low.  My multimeter shows all good, though.

I need to get some of Wayne's elixir, too.

I'll mess with with them this week and let you know what happens.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 22, 2014, 03:36:03 PM
Thanks Curtis!

I picked these up I just need to get them on. I believe the gent that made them was from VA. and at the time he said he was ceasing production. When they first arrived I thought the amount of material that made the bolt hole seemed a little thin but overall they seem like they're well made.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/DSCN7651.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/DSCN7650.jpg)

Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Curtis Harper on September 22, 2014, 03:51:48 PM
Excellent. Enjoy the toy!
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Guzzistajohn on September 22, 2014, 04:03:16 PM
Sweet ride! Have a ball 'yall!
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on September 22, 2014, 04:25:24 PM
Thanks Curtis!

I picked these up I just need to get them on. I believe the gent that made them was from VA. and at the time he said he was ceasing production. When they first arrived I thought the amount of material that made the bolt hole seemed a little thin but overall they seem like they're well made.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/DSCN7651.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/DSCN7650.jpg)



I used to make head guards for the 8 valves back in the day. Having that thin area at the bolt hole is by design. It's designed to fail, hopefully scrubbing off enough energy as it does it, and not damaging the head itself.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 22, 2014, 04:38:59 PM
Head guard crumple zone.....sweet. Thanks for the info Chuck!
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 26, 2014, 11:02:12 PM
Gratuitous Daytona shot outside Emmitsburg Maryland.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Moto%20Guzzi/DSCN7924.jpg)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Turin on September 26, 2014, 11:17:16 PM
You may have to squint a bit, but I've got the old Guzzitech head guards. Maybe Ed Milich could run another batch ?

(http://thumb.ibb.co/gfHQ5S/20180331_174246_resized.jpg) (http://ibb.co/gfHQ5S)


(https://thumb.ibb.co/g5xP4e/20180331_174231_resized.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g5xP4e)

Bonnie Callander Max Plowman (https://poetandpoem.com/Max-Plowman/Bonnie-Callander)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on November 05, 2014, 12:37:45 PM
Sunny and a high of 68 yesterday, go for a ride? Hmmm.....let me think about it, YES!

I don't think I'll have too many more riding days like this in '14 so I headed north into coal country. Most of the bright colors are gone now but the foliage was still nice, just darker shades of red, yellow and orange. Stopped to check out a dam, didn't get any dam souvenirs but did take a few dam photos. No dam wildlife to be seen but the water was dam clear.

On the return trip I cut through Ft. Indiantown Gap. There are great roads in and around FITG as it is an "open" installation however you need to be wary of the "Tank Crossing" signs. You also don't want to be wandering onto the ranges the A-10's use for their gun runs, that would be a bad day. When I fueled up in Lickdale at the start of my ride I was about 5 miles west of FITG and I could hear and feel the impacts of something being fired.

All in all it was a fun afternoon.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Whiskey%20Trips/DSCN8320.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Whiskey%20Trips/DSCN8342.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Whiskey%20Trips/DSCN8333.jpg)

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(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Whiskey%20Trips/DSCN8326.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Whiskey%20Trips/DSCN8324.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Whiskey%20Trips/DSCN8327.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Whiskey%20Trips/DSCN8328.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Whiskey%20Trips/DSCN8331.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Whiskey%20Trips/DSCN8335.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Whiskey%20Trips/DSCN8337.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Whiskey%20Trips/DSCN8338.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Whiskey%20Trips/DSCN8334.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Whiskey%20Trips/DSCN8341.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Whiskey%20Trips/DSCN8350.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Whiskey%20Trips/DSCN8348.jpg)

They don't call it Pennsyltucky for nothin'.....

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Whiskey%20Trips/DSCN8345.jpg)

Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on December 19, 2014, 03:39:26 PM
My wife rocks! Here's is the 4V Parts Manual she put together for me. It includes the models that tend to share parts with my Daytona.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/DSCN8664.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/DSCN8884.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/DSCN8667.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/DSCN8666.jpg)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: blackcat on December 19, 2014, 04:33:59 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Turin on December 19, 2014, 08:13:35 PM
How did she figure all that out? That's awesome.

Since you have both a Daytona 1000 and an 1100 sport, how about a comparison right up? I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd like to read that.

Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: trippah on December 19, 2014, 09:58:02 PM
FT. Indiantown Gap - such fond memories of a week long NCO school there.  After leading a five hour ambush patrol, I got back and hit the showers counting 5 ticks in private areas and few more enroute; and I had taken lots of preventative measures. Poison Ivy as well, but not one deer crossed my path. OH well, my pay checks used to come from there also. ;D ;D
Your Daytona is really good looking so the not coveting thing strains. ;)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Old Jock on December 20, 2014, 03:50:10 AM
For heavens sakes don't worry about the origin of the brakes or fork! Tokis are great brakes, better than period Brembos but you'll ger through pads at a great rate, guess how I know!

The forks are I presume yer standard Showas? Great, great fork. Yes for ultimate feel and compliance Ohlins are better but you'll pay a price in servicing and parts. The nice thing about Showas is that they are not only easily tuned and rebuilt but since just about every Japanese Sportsbike spares are readily available from Captain Fleabay. They are infinitely nicer than the original 'Zocchis or whatever they had WP's? At the end of the day the Showas are a much better thing than anything other than the absolute 'Creme deLa creme' suspension units. No shame in having them on a truly great Guzzi like a Daytona.

Pete

I would never contradict VDG and this is no exception. Sorry its so late and its not a biggie but the bike looks, judging by the big alloy casting on the frame, attaching the swingarm, to be an earlier series bike. The original forks were Marzzochi and they were SHOCKINGLY BAD, as I remember one leg did compression the other damping, they really were pants. When you did an oil change on the forks one leg drained like new fluid the other came out jet black, go figure what was happening. On later bikes Guzzi went to WP they didn't do that because they like giving money to Dutchmen.

The GSXR front end was quite a common conversion. When the BEARS racing series was in vogue, I think it was Cobby was one who used a Daytona for a while anyway and I remember seeing his bike at Knockhill (a bleak race circuit in Scotland) when I asked him about the front end he told me it was a GSXR conversion and then absolutely insisted I sit on his race bike and pump the forks to feel the difference, nice nice guy. Oh they felt a lot better!!

John
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Waterbottle on December 20, 2014, 04:12:14 AM
Lots of good info here guys, thanks, Beautiful bike BBH, what a find, ;-T
 I've got my eyes peeled for one myself. Seriously if anyone is selling or knows someone ETC.........
Cheers Ron
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: jas67 on December 20, 2014, 08:47:53 AM
Sunny and a high of 68 yesterday, go for a ride? Hmmm.....let me think about it, YES!

I don't think I'll have too many more riding days like this in '14 so I headed north into coal country.

Nice pics -- it looks like you were on some of my favorite roads!    I can't wait 'till spring!

I'm going to try to get out for a ride this afternoon, or tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on December 20, 2014, 12:50:30 PM
The original forks were Marzzochi and they were SHOCKINGLY BAD

The owner that did the conversion had originally swapped out the OEM forks for a set from a black '96 Sport 1100 he owned. Later on he did the GSXR conversion which is what you see now. Although I had rode this exact Daytona back in the late '90's when it was stock it was only once so it's hard for me to compare before and after. I can say it turns noticeably quicker than my Sport 1100 but it also does not have that "riding on rails" stability the Sport 1100 has.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Old Jock on December 21, 2014, 04:13:58 AM
I'm like you and cannot really compare only having ridden the bikes with the older style Marzzochi's and limited time on anything else of that model.

My early Daytona did have that "running on rails" feel, but I put it down to the length of the bike, it was an absolute bitch on a tight road, really horrible and hard work. As I also recall the Marzzochi's were too soft as well.

Not only me that thought so, obviously the factory did and so did Amedeo Castellini of Raceco fame, who raced a real fire breather of a Daytona in the BEARS series. He was the first that I know of to offer the WP conversion for the bikes and said that the forks let the bike down really badly. I never did the conversion as it was about £1000, or so in the mid 90s and I could not afford to splash that sort of cash.

Just passing it on make of it what you will

Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on December 21, 2014, 09:29:27 AM
I could not afford to splash that sort of cash.

Been there.  :(

Now if money wasn't an option.....

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Moto%20Guzzi/PedaneMotoGuzzi1000Daytona1.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Moto%20Guzzi/PedaneMotoGuzzi1000Daytona3.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Moto%20Guzzi/PedaneMotoGuzzi1000Daytona2.jpg)

Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on December 21, 2014, 09:54:31 AM
How did she figure all that out? That's awesome.

The manuals can be found online, they're all open source info on the internet that I had on a thumb drive. She took the time to print and organize them for me all into one place. I think she did a pretty good job, she's awesome. She's been riding with me since we met (still had a boyfriend when I was courting her and asking her to go for a ride on my then new 900SS) and we actually purchased the Sport 1100 together as a leftover in spring of '97, ironically the Sport 1100 is her least favorite bike to ride due to the pillions position, height, etc.. The first time she saw the Daytona when I purchased it she looked it over then said "wait a minute......where am I supposed to sit?".
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on December 21, 2014, 10:02:07 AM
Lots of good info here guys, thanks, Beautiful bike BBH, what a find, ;-T
 I've got my eyes peeled for one myself. Seriously if anyone is selling or knows someone ETC.........
Cheers Ron

Thanks Ron.

Moto Corsa has a '96 Daytona Racing for sale. Pretty much the ultimate Daytona 1000 from the factory.

http://www.motocorsa.co.uk/bikes/index.php?section=details&bike=V9P4NYQ0PUHBM7U5
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Waterbottle on December 21, 2014, 04:20:21 PM
Thanks Ron.

Moto Corsa has a '96 Daytona Racing for sale. Pretty much the ultimate Daytona 1000 from the factory.

http://www.motocorsa.co.uk/bikes/index.php?section=details&bike=V9P4NYQ0PUHBM7U5

Ron sad now  :'(  At a stretch I'd have it, if it was here in oz, but god knows what the shipping costs would be. I missed one in NZ a while back
, thought about it too long ....... and then it was gone. If it's still there after xmas I'll do the sums on rates / shipping.
Thanks BBH 
Ron
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Murray on December 21, 2014, 04:44:07 PM
Racing Daytona No1 changed hands recently although commanded a fairly steep price still in Oz though.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: earemike on December 21, 2014, 05:08:04 PM
Racing Daytona No1 changed hands recently although commanded a fairly steep price still in Oz though.

Yeah a very steep price...  :o

On the upside it is a genuine RACECO 1288 & apparently has one of the original Guzzi race ECU's.

(https://guzzimike2.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/img_4968.jpg)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: rocker59 on December 21, 2014, 07:19:52 PM
Been there.  :(

Now if money wasn't an option.....

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Moto%20Guzzi/PedaneMotoGuzzi1000Daytona1.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Moto%20Guzzi/PedaneMotoGuzzi1000Daytona3.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Moto%20Guzzi/PedaneMotoGuzzi1000Daytona2.jpg)



OH! My!    :drool
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 09, 2015, 03:12:23 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Moto%20Guzzi/IMG_20150907_183840364.jpg)

The Daytona is finally back together. Had the top and bottom end done, replaced the original oil lines with braided stainless lines, powder coated the wheels black, reupholstered the seat in black, sent the tank and bodywork to a professional detailer, installed a carbon fiber front fender, and put on a pair of Michelin Pilot Road 2's.

I have a pair of pork chops off a Sport 1100 and the Sport 1100 foot pegs for it but I didn't get to those so I'll swap them out after the season is over, it's sat dormant long enough and needs to be ridden.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: jas67 on September 09, 2015, 05:18:55 PM
Excellent!   When are we riding?    I can't get free to do the DGR with you, but, should be available sometime the following weekend.   Ephrata?    I'll have the V7 Record done by then!
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: oldmxdog61u on September 09, 2015, 05:41:09 PM
Nice ride! I pick up a sport 1100 in october. Not a daytona, but close enough for me. Woo, hoo!
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 09, 2015, 06:51:13 PM
Excellent!   When are we riding?    I can't get free to do the DGR with you, but, should be available sometime the following weekend.   Ephrata?    I'll have the V7 Record done by then!

I'm ready. It really needed that servicing, runs like a different machine now.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 09, 2015, 06:56:47 PM
Nice ride! I pick up a sport 1100 in october. Not a daytona, but close enough for me. Woo, hoo!

Super cool. I plan on getting my Sport 1100 back on the road now that the Daytona is getting to where I want it. The Sport 1100 and Daytona both have their own personalities. Don't subscribe to the it's a poor mans Daytona mentality, I'm sure you'll love it.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Turin on September 09, 2015, 10:07:57 PM
Looks great! Love the black wheels too.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: flangeman_70 on September 10, 2015, 05:06:58 AM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Moto%20Guzzi/IMG_20150907_183840364.jpg)

The Daytona is finally back together. Had the top and bottom end done, replaced the original oil lines with braided stainless lines, powder coated the wheels black, reupholstered the seat in black, sent the tank and bodywork to a professional detailer, installed a carbon fiber front fender, and put on a pair of Michelin Pilot Road 2's.

I have a pair of pork chops off a Sport 1100 and the Sport 1100 foot pegs for it but I didn't get to those so I'll swap them out after the season is over, it's sat dormant long enough and needs to be ridden.

Hey Blueboarhound,

When you say you had the top ends done, what exactly did you get done?
I have a centauro and am interested to know what parts you needed and where you obtained said parts?

Thanks.

Adam
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Muzz on September 10, 2015, 05:13:22 AM
There is a 1994 Magni Australia for sale on our NZ Trademe site.  Only want $53,000 NZ for it.....that converts to about $32,000US. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 10, 2015, 09:27:39 AM
Hey Blueboarhound,

When you say you had the top ends done, what exactly did you get done?
I have a centauro and am interested to know what parts you needed and where you obtained said parts?

Thanks.

Adam

Oil changed and all O-rings and gaskets were replaced. I think your bike came with the braided steel oil lines but if not I'd upgrade those to the braided lines. You can find the parts at MG Cycle and/or Harpers.

1 x 14003600 (Oil pan gasket, most big twins)
2 x 90706313 (Oring for distributor blanking cover, early fuel injected models)
2 x 90706361 (oring spark plug hole, 4-valve valve cover)
2 x 30023700 (valve cover oring 4 valve big twins, Centauro Daytona MGS01)
2 x 90706552 (oring, intake manifold flange Daytona, RS, Centauro,)
12 x 90706094 (cylinder stud o-ring, Viton, 12 per engine, 90706090)
2 x 30022000 (head gasket Daytona-Centauro)
2 x 90718406 (exhaust gasket Daytona Centauro)

Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: blackcat on September 10, 2015, 09:31:30 AM
Maybe I missed this but who did the work?
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 10, 2015, 09:46:03 AM
Looks great! Love the black wheels too.

Thank you kind sir. I like the black compared to the gold they were painted when I got it and much better than the OEM white. Plus the black wheels look good with the newly upholstered black seat:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/IMG_20150907_183936161.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/IMG_20150907_183924896.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/IMG_20150907_183942131.jpg)

It's a little hard to tell in the photos but the red contrast stitching separates two finishes, one smoother than the other, on both the seat and the backrest.

Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 10, 2015, 10:08:42 AM
Maybe I missed this but who did the work?

Art Corsetti. He worked at the dealership where I purchased my Sport 1100 from in the '90's and more recently at Europa Macchina Moto Guzzi. He was also the second owner of my Daytona.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: pauldaytona on September 10, 2015, 10:18:14 AM
looking fine again. Upholstery is made beautiful. But I liked the white stock too.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 10, 2015, 04:19:00 PM
looking fine again. Upholstery is made beautiful. But I liked the white stock too.

Thanks Paul. My seat had seen better days so it was time.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Green1000S on September 10, 2015, 06:55:57 PM

Damn.... thats a pretty bike!!!
Congrats. :thumb:
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 14, 2015, 03:44:33 PM
The Cherohala Skyway was conceived in 1958 and opened and dedicated in 1996. The 43-mile (69 km) road has been designated a National Scenic Byway and it crosses through the Cherokee National Forest in Tennessee and the Nantahala National Forest in North Carolina. The skyway gains over 4,000 feet (1,200 m) in elevation from it's low point of just under 900 feet (270 m) to it's high point of over 5,400 feet (1,600 m). I found that the weather at the top changes every five minutes, at least it did this past Saturday.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Southern%20Spine%20Raid/IMG_20150912_181620702_HDR.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Southern%20Spine%20Raid/IMG_20150912_181452598_HDR.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Southern%20Spine%20Raid/IMG_20150912_175911490_HDR.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Southern%20Spine%20Raid/IMG_20150912_175211126.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Southern%20Spine%20Raid/IMG_20150912_175810996_HDR.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Southern%20Spine%20Raid/IMG_20150912_181602692_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: BRIO on September 14, 2015, 04:01:55 PM
I finally pulled the trigger on a 1993 Daytona 1000! I've been lusting after the Daytona 1000 since the late '90's but for whatever reason my desire for one had an uptick over the last year so I've gone and done it. I picked it up this morning and took the long way home.....

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Moto%20Guzzi/DSCN7556.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Moto%20Guzzi/DSCN7560.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Moto%20Guzzi/DSCN7559.jpg)

It looks a bit like an RS. Just gorgeous!
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on October 08, 2015, 10:44:32 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/img-111200932_Page_1.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/img-111200932_Page_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: cruzziguzzi on October 09, 2015, 09:43:51 AM
Nice racer write-up there.

A bit tiny but still readable - It's a shame that some corporate momentum was not gathered off of Dr John and his wheeled-spawn.

Made me wonder looking at it too, and then scrolling through, I don't recall seeing Daytonas with those pretty Euro headlights. Did they make them like the small light Sports?

Todd.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: guznax on October 09, 2015, 09:53:45 AM
Nice Daytona  :thumb:
personaly I prefer white wheels.

Did it have the oil pump and the cam followers fixed?
and get a roper plate  :whip2: :thumb:
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on October 09, 2015, 09:56:42 AM
Apologies, that's the sized it scanned.

The "euro" headlight was used on the Daytona. It's my understanding certain markets got the square light to meet that country's DOT requirements for headlights.

 
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on October 09, 2015, 10:04:47 AM
Did it have the oil pump and the cam followers fixed?
and get a roper plate

No, motor is still in stock form. I did upgrade to braided stainless oil lines and I'm probably going the Das Mototec oil pump and Caruso steel gears route at some point.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: blackcat on October 09, 2015, 03:47:01 PM
Apologies, that's the sized it scanned.

The "euro" headlight was used on the Daytona. It's my understanding certain markets got the square light to meet that country's DOT requirements for headlights.

I got one of those headlights from Leafman when I purchased the bike:

(http://rs147.pbsrc.com/albums/r317/blackkat-1/1bb869c1.jpg?w=480&h=480&fit=clip)

For some reason it comes with a 4-way flasher.

Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: cruzziguzzi on October 09, 2015, 08:01:40 PM
I got one of those headlights from Leafman when I purchased the bike:

(http://rs147.pbsrc.com/albums/r317/blackkat-1/1bb869c1.jpg?w=480&h=480&fit=clip)

For some reason it comes with a 4-way flasher.

Good golly but those are pretty.

I guess, fortunately, the front is for me, the least often seen aspect of my Spot.

Todd.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on January 21, 2016, 10:55:59 AM
(http://rs147.pbsrc.com/albums/r317/blackkat-1/1bb869c1.jpg?w=480&h=480&fit=clip)

Blackcat,

You need to do this so you can eliminate carrying around that board, lol.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/bf6a875e-c858-44b3-a1ce-0a7e9ab8ac33.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/DSCN7926.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/DSCN7927.jpg)




Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Roebling3 on January 23, 2016, 04:47:38 PM
Finally a side stand comment. I had the link from bracket to stick pop off 2 X. I made a better one and a friend had 10 water jet cut. If any Daytona owner wants one PM me with a mailing address.  The key hole slot would not correctly track the flanged post on the stick. 
I like the front end a lot and have used GSKR forks b4. I added the armored hoses when I bought mine, along with an external oil filter sump from Teo Lamers. I hate running steel cap screws in and out of aluminum castings. Mine has the original white wheels w/red stripe. The Gold goes well w/decals.  Good fortune, R3~ 
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: flangeman_70 on January 24, 2016, 03:55:20 AM
Blackcat,

You need to do this so you can eliminate carrying around that board, lol.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/bf6a875e-c858-44b3-a1ce-0a7e9ab8ac33.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/DSCN7926.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Motorcycle%20parts/DSCN7927.jpg)


Hi Bluebaorhound,

Beautiful looking piece of kit you've got there :thumb:

I couldn't help but notice your lovely bracket for attaching the side stand to the engine. Is it your good work or did the previous owner make it?
Any chance you can provide a better close up pic or even better a CAD file and information on the material used to make it :wink:
I know there are multiple spine owners out there who have suffered the indignation of a collapsing stand :sad: but yours looks like the goods :bow:

Thanks
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on January 24, 2016, 08:21:06 AM
Flangeman,

That is the OEM bracket on the Daytona 1000 and Sport 1100 carbureted models. Art Corsetti made the "platform shoe" for the kickstand. I'm having him make one for my Sport 1100 also.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Tom on January 24, 2016, 12:31:38 PM
Any bulk order rates?  :tongue:
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: jas67 on January 26, 2016, 03:29:04 PM
Flangeman,

That is the OEM bracket on the Daytona 1000 and Sport 1100 carbureted models. Art Corsetti made the "platform shoe" for the kickstand. I'm having him make one for my Sport 1100 also.

Hmmm, I should get Art to make one for my F650GS Dakar.   

It looks like the Costa Concordia when it is on its side stand.
(http://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2012/01/the-wreck-of-the-costa-concordia/c01_36991800/main_1200.jpg)

Sorry..... too soon?   :evil:

Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Roebling3 on January 27, 2016, 11:56:22 AM
That side stand pad looks to be a perfect project for a Farrier,  R3~ 
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: malik on January 27, 2016, 03:15:08 PM
Much neater than my solution.

(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n538/hatihati/2013%20Feb%20-%20NZ%20Trip%201/2013-02-12_13-52-51_616.jpg)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on January 27, 2016, 03:44:45 PM
Break out the grinder.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: blackcat on February 06, 2016, 01:38:36 PM
Installed the new Staintune system on the Daytona today. Right muffler is not so good looking as it's not new, so only one photo. Sounds good but I haven't taken it for a ride to see if there is any difference from the Mistrals.

(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/blackkat-1/IMG_1023_zps4zck6mjb.jpg)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on February 06, 2016, 08:45:43 PM
Looking good Blackcat! I have a Staintune full system on both the Daytona 1000 and the Sport 1100. It's all I've ever had on them, besides OEM, so I can't make a comparison with other brands. I do regret not getting a Staintune Spaghetti full system for the Ducati when they were still being produced.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: leafman60 on February 07, 2016, 07:23:45 AM
Installed the new Staintune system on the Daytona today. Right muffler is not so good looking as it's not new, so only one photo. Sounds good but I haven't taken it for a ride to see if there is any difference from the Mistrals.

(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/blackkat-1/IMG_1023_zps4zck6mjb.jpg)

Lookin good. That's my baby.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: blackcat on February 07, 2016, 10:02:11 AM
Went for a ride after snapping that picture and it does sound much better than the Mistrals, plus it seems to run better but that might just be an illusion.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: rocker59 on February 07, 2016, 10:08:18 AM
  seems to run better but that might just be an illusion.

Nah.  The Staintune is that good.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: blackcat on February 07, 2016, 10:10:39 AM
Nah.  The Staintune is that good.

Thanks, I was hoping you'd give an opinion.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on April 13, 2016, 09:02:24 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Moto%20Guzzi/IMG_20160228_112551316.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/blueboarhound/Whiskey%20Trips/IMG_20160228_113853892.jpg)

The Cornwall Iron Furnace was a leading Pennsylvania iron producer from 1742 to 1883. Established in 1742, the Cornwall Furnace was operated during the Revolution and was a major arms provider to George Washington.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 13, 2017, 11:24:38 PM
(https://static.imgzeit.com/reduced/8f3b2096155e44ff/SpineRaid17.jpg)


The Cherohala Skyway crosses through the Cherokee National Forest in Tennessee and the Nantahala National Forest in North Carolina and is designated a National Scenic Byway. The name “Cherohala” comes from the names of the two National Forests: “Chero” from the Cherokee and “hala” from the Nantahala.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Old Jock on September 14, 2017, 03:02:27 AM
Great photograph BB  :bow:

What forks and model of Daytona?

I'm asking as the engine isn't blackened like the RS, of course US could be different, & these are not early style forks, for which you should be eternally grateful  :wink:
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Huzo on September 14, 2017, 03:21:26 AM
I know nothing about other Guzzies, but I can't recall seeing a better one..
It's MGS 01 esque
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: blackcat on September 14, 2017, 08:16:21 AM
The Cherohala Skyway has to be a great road to ride a Daytona.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: jas67 on September 14, 2017, 08:22:35 AM
Great photograph BB  :bow:

What forks and model of Daytona?

I'm asking as the engine isn't blackened like the RS, of course US could be different, & these are not early style forks, for which you should be eternally grateful  :wink:

They're GSXR-something forks.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Roebling3 on September 14, 2017, 09:36:55 AM
Blueboarhound.

If you have not done it already, do not delay! Pre-empt the potential crash of your Daytona's engine.
A friends Centauro broke ~1 year ago @ 23k. The front main & 1st rod bearing surfaces were destroyed. He found a low mileage engine. An ex Guzzi shop tech had the crank welded and reground. Disassembled and flushed the engine, replaced both rods, etc.

Another friend, motorcyclist, machinist, 3 Centauro's + other collectibles, showed a stack of Centauro timing and oil pump gears to me; all with erosion on tooth contact surfaces. He changes them @ each timing belt change! He has been using std. MG parts 'til adding steel gear and pump to my bike. Good fortune,  R3~

I immediately went with the Joe Caruso conversion @ less than 20K. I've learned there is increasing danger beyond 20K and almost guaranteed failure by 30, 35K miles.
Mine is a '93 also. Original except for the Teo Lamers deep sump and 'outy' filter
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: blackcat on September 14, 2017, 01:17:12 PM
Blueboarhound.

If you have not done it already, do not delay! Pre-empt the potential crash of your Daytona's engine.
A friends Centauro broke ~1 year ago @ 23k. The front main & 1st rod bearing surfaces were destroyed. He found a low mileage engine. An ex Guzzi shop tech had the crank welded and reground. Disassembled and flushed the engine, replaced both rods, etc.

Another friend, motorcyclist, machinist, 3 Centauro's + other collectibles, showed a stack of Centauro timing and oil pump gears to me; all with erosion on tooth contact surfaces. He changes them @ each timing belt change! He has been using std. MG parts 'til adding steel gear and pump to my bike. Good fortune,  R3~

I immediately went with the Joe Caruso conversion @ less than 20K. I've learned there is increasing danger beyond 20K and almost guaranteed failure by 30, 35K miles.
Mine is a '93 also. Original except for the Teo Lamers deep sump and 'outy' filter

I have to do this change on my RS, but it has very low miles on the bike. My only issue is whether I should attempt to do this myself or take the bike to someone and have the work done.

In the meantime, I'm going to get the parts and look at them for awhile and try to will them into the engine.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 14, 2017, 03:32:07 PM
Great photograph BB  :bow:

What forks and model of Daytona?

I'm asking as the engine isn't blackened like the RS, of course US could be different, & these are not early style forks, for which you should be eternally grateful  :wink:

OJ,

It is a '93 Daytona 1000. The 1000 was produced from '92-'96 but only "officially" came to the US in '93. The RS was introduced for '97. The final year for the Daytona 1000 was 1996 and it was badged the Daytona 1000 Racing. It had the dark gray / black motor like the RS did the following year but '92-'95 1000 engines were silver.

Your eyes don't deceive you. The front end is off a GSX-R 750.


(http://thumb.ibb.co/hGotDk/My_MG_Daytona_1000_4.jpg) (http://ibb.co/hGotDk)

Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 14, 2017, 03:33:19 PM
The Cherohala Skyway has to be a great road to ride a Daytona.

Most definitely!
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 14, 2017, 03:46:01 PM
Blueboarhound.

If you have not done it already, do not delay! Pre-empt the potential crash of your Daytona's engine.
A friends Centauro broke ~1 year ago @ 23k. The front main & 1st rod bearing surfaces were destroyed. He found a low mileage engine. An ex Guzzi shop tech had the crank welded and reground. Disassembled and flushed the engine, replaced both rods, etc.

Another friend, motorcyclist, machinist, 3 Centauro's + other collectibles, showed a stack of Centauro timing and oil pump gears to me; all with erosion on tooth contact surfaces. He changes them @ each timing belt change! He has been using std. MG parts 'til adding steel gear and pump to my bike. Good fortune,  R3~

I immediately went with the Joe Caruso conversion @ less than 20K. I've learned there is increasing danger beyond 20K and almost guaranteed failure by 30, 35K miles.
Mine is a '93 also. Original except for the Teo Lamers deep sump and 'outy' filter

Thanks for the feedback on your experiences. I've spoken to Joe Caruso in the past and the steel gear / pump upgrade is on my list.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 14, 2017, 03:49:19 PM
In the meantime, I'm going to get the parts and look at them for awhile and try to will them into the engine.

Ha! We think alike.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: LowRyter on September 14, 2017, 06:20:55 PM
BB-

Was this ride during the Spine Frame Raid? 
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Devildog on September 14, 2017, 07:52:43 PM
Could someone forward the contact info for Joe Caruso? My Daytona is only at 7200 miles but I should start the process.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: tazio on September 14, 2017, 09:13:43 PM
BB-

Was this ride during the Spine Frame Raid?
Just did the South-n-Spine Raid for 2017 with these fine gentleman. We did cross the Cherohala and this beauty was there.
But photo may have been from another time maybe?

(http://thumb.ibb.co/f2RDUQ/IMG_20170909_115926677.jpg) (http://ibb.co/f2RDUQ)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Old Jock on September 15, 2017, 03:39:33 AM
OJ,

It is a '93 Daytona 1000. The 1000 was produced from '92-'96 but only "officially" came to the US in '93. The RS was introduced for '97. The final year for the Daytona 1000 was 1996 and it was badged the Daytona 1000 Racing. It had the dark gray / black motor like the RS did the following year but '92-'95 1000 engines were silver.

Your eyes don't deceive you. The front end is off a GSX-R 750.


(http://thumb.ibb.co/hGotDk/My_MG_Daytona_1000_4.jpg) (http://ibb.co/hGotDk)


Cheers BB

Yeah I know the early Daytona, used to own one

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First guy I knew who did the GSXR fork thing was Ian Cobham "Cobby" who raced one in the BEARS series, really nice guy, I asked about the mod and he explained it all.

He then insisted I sit on his race bike and bounce on the forks to get some idea of the improvement, I was reluctant to throw a leg over somebody's race bike but he would have none of it nd positively insisted, a lasting memory of how approachable some of the racers were

John
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Diploman on September 15, 2017, 06:59:17 AM
Lovely, iconic Daytona - congratulations! 

If you are intending to swap out the Tokico calipers for Brembos, this may prove a bit trickier than it at first appears.  The issue is that Asian (Nissin, Tokico, Frando, et al) radial-mount calipers are standardized at a 108mm spacing, while Brembo uses a 100mm standard.  Thus the lower fittings of your GSXR forks will not accept standard Brembos. 

However, I believe that Brembo does make a limited number of specially-adapted calipers with 108mm spacing for the conversion market in Asia.  These hybrid calipers, of course, are exceptional and may be hard to find - and likely expensive.  But with money and ingenuity, almost anything is possible.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 15, 2017, 07:09:51 AM
Lovely, iconic Daytona - congratulations! 

If you are intending to swap out the Tokico calipers for Brembos, this may prove a bit trickier than it at first appears.  The issue is that Asian (Nissin, Tokico, Frando, et al) radial-mount calipers are standardized at a 108mm spacing, while Brembo uses a 100mm standard.  Thus the lower fittings of your GSXR forks will not accept standard Brembos. 

However, I believe that Brembo does make a limited number of specially-adapted calipers with 108mm spacing for the conversion market in Asia.  These hybrid calipers, of course, are exceptional and may be hard to find - and likely expensive.  But with money and ingenuity, almost anything is possible.

Thank you for the info. That is something I had thought about doing but that was put on the back burner until I do the internals I want/need to do, new wheels, carbon exhaust, etc., etc., etc........LOL
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Turin on September 15, 2017, 08:57:24 PM
I've already done the homework on upgrading six piston tokicos. Your best bet are a set of shindy nissin  calipers.
http://www.shindypro.com/brake_caliper.html (http://www.shindypro.com/brake_caliper.html)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on September 20, 2017, 08:43:38 PM
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Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Turin on September 20, 2017, 09:02:46 PM
Radial mounted calipers... whoops.  ( backs away from crack pipe slowly )
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Murray on September 21, 2017, 07:25:26 AM
Thank you for the info. That is something I had thought about doing but that was put on the back burner until I do the internals I want/need to do, new wheels, carbon exhaust, etc., etc., etc........LOL

Superbike toy store used to carry these in stock can't remember the name of the entity that took over from basically they are not that had to find for some of the upspec Japanese sports bikes Brembos are fitted stock.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: pmillar on September 21, 2017, 12:02:48 PM
Oh yeah, that's one of the first things I'd like to do. The Tokico's seem sacrilegious on this bike. I've been planning on upgrading the front brake and clutch etc. on my Sport 1100 with brembo units as well so I might as well start buying stock in the company.....

You could always grind off the "Tokico" on the calipers and repaint them while you save money for some brembos. Make sure you match a M/C with any new calipers or braking performance could take a step backward.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on November 04, 2017, 09:53:26 PM
(https://static.imgzeit.com/large/91cc1e507e1c72b6/IMG_20171104_150525330.jpg)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Devildog on November 05, 2017, 08:40:19 AM
How many miles on her? I spoke to Joe Caruso about the oil pump gears, he said 15k is the earliest he has heard of a failure. Mine will hit 8k soon this month...assuming I find where the gas is leaking from.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Chesterfield on November 06, 2017, 07:38:58 PM
They look a lot better with the original white wheels and seat
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Tom on November 06, 2017, 07:40:33 PM
 :1: :thumb:
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Old Jock on November 07, 2017, 03:47:21 AM
They look a lot better with the original white wheels and seat

Not sure about the (light grey as I recall) seat but yes I think the white wheels had a certain appeal.

However unless you want to be cleaning your wheels every time you so much as take the bike to the paper shop around the block, black is the way to go.

I also think they look good in black anyway, white wheels, are a like white pants, look good on a select few but definitely not on me.

Just my take on it, my Daytona started as factory with white wheels, they quickly got powdered coated to black

IMHO BB's bike look great

John
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on November 12, 2017, 10:54:27 AM
Thanks OJ!
If you look at first post in this thread you'll see the wheels were gold when I bought the Daytona. Unfortunately the previous owner had simply spray bombed them and by the end of the first season of ownership it was flaking off so I powder coated them black.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on November 12, 2017, 11:00:52 AM
DD,

Joe and I have corresponded regarding doing the conversion it's just been put on hold until I have my Sport 1100 back on the road.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Old Jock on November 12, 2017, 01:07:45 PM
DD,

Joe and I have corresponded regarding doing the conversion it's just been put on hold until I have my Sport 1100 back on the road.

You have a Sport 1100 too, OMG we really do share the same tastes  :thumb:
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Tom on November 12, 2017, 01:12:06 PM
Yes.  There are others.  2 Daytona 1000's, 1 Daytona RS, 1100 Sporti, 2 Sport 1100's.   :thumb:
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Devildog on November 12, 2017, 06:49:47 PM
It seems if you have a Daytona, you need a Sport too. Most of the miles get put on the Sport, the Daytona has less than 8K miles.
(http://thumb.ibb.co/kmgNJG/image.jpg) (http://ibb.co/kmgNJG)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Tom on November 12, 2017, 07:03:08 PM
Did you have the recall done on your Daytona?
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on November 12, 2017, 09:40:54 PM
Yes we do OJ, now if I could just find a Magni.....
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on December 01, 2017, 06:59:34 PM
(https://static.imgzeit.com/large/2d059058c99c9b2b/FallDaytona.jpg)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Devildog on December 02, 2017, 04:37:39 PM
I was really pleased with my '93 Daytona, my son's first reaction was "too bad about the white wheels" so he would think Blueboarhound's bike a 'proper' Daytona and mine just a girl's bike.
(http://thumb.ibb.co/ga3P5G/image.jpg) (http://ibb.co/ga3P5G)
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on December 04, 2017, 03:24:06 PM
DD,

Mine was not original when I bought it which was okay with me. It still had the gray seat but it was starting to crack so I went with black when I had it reupholstered.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Old Jock on December 05, 2017, 04:09:24 AM
More BB   :thumb:

I wonder if I should post up my "Not quite a Daytona" or not  :wink:
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Devildog on December 05, 2017, 06:52:59 PM
'Not quite a Daytona' would be a Sport 1100 with a Centauro 4v motor?
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Turin on December 05, 2017, 08:56:24 PM
Post it!
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: weevee on December 06, 2017, 02:31:12 AM
Go on, John.  I've been waiting for this post!  :gotpics:
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Old Jock on December 06, 2017, 03:54:18 AM
'Not quite a Daytona' would be a Sport 1100 with a Centauro 4v motor?

Not quite but I know where one of these lives, but it does not belong to me

Mine does have the Centauro/RS engine though, my bank manager is still in mourning

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Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Devildog on December 06, 2017, 09:54:41 PM
Like the rest of us, your bank manager is just jealous.
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on December 06, 2017, 11:05:31 PM
OJ, finally let the cat out of the bag..... :cool:
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Old Jock on December 07, 2017, 01:14:49 PM
LOL Yes and I'm not the only one on here that's got one  :wink:

Hint check out the Avatars  :evil:
Title: Re: Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Daytona
Post by: Blueboarhound on June 05, 2018, 08:28:25 PM
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