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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Arizona Wayne on September 02, 2013, 10:18:20 PM
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I'd like some feedback from owners of what they like about them but have never seen a write up on their +s, -s from owners. I know some Guzzisti use them. Therefore I'd like some feedback about them besides what shape head they fit. I don't live near a Cycle Gear store, but will be able to check them out on my next bike trip coming up Wednesday. Up to now I've worn Nolan mod. helmets. Please advise. :)
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I've been riding my Bilt modular helmet for @ 2yrs now. Previous was a Nolan. I liked the Nolan, and I like the Bilt.
I am not so sophisticated to articulate the nuances of the Bilt. It is a price point product, but I like it.
The face shield is an easy on, easy off affair.
I will probably replace it with another Bilt.
It works for me.
kjf
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I ride with a Nolan Trilogy and love the versatility.
REVIEW SNAPSHOT by PowerReviews of the BILT Modular Helmet
(based on 155 reviews)
93% of respondents would recommend this to a friend.
PROS
Comfortable padding (68)
Good visibility (65)
Adequate ventilation (62)
Fits snug (62)
Lightweight (44)
CONS
Noisy (34)
Prone to fogging (28)
Heavy (13)
Poor ventilation (9)
Poor visibility (3)
BEST USES
Everyday rides (80)
Protection (47)
Poor weather (25)
Passenger (15)
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I'd like to try a Bilt, if only on price, but I'm not sure I can bring myself to trust a $50 helmet - and a lot of Bilt gear feels like it is "built" to the price.
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Same here. Just replaced a Shoei faceshield, $45 is ridiculous for that little piece of plastic. There surely is a point where there is a good product at a fair price. I've considered the Bilt helmet and wondered if that is the point. But then I think about my head on the pavement. So I too am interested in any real-world experience with the Bilt. I appreciate the review summaries posted by oceanluvr.
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I was literally looking at one last night - in response to some of the helmets I saw in the Open Face helmet thread.
On the Cycle Gear website a lot of the reviews talked about how cheap the sun-visor was and how it scratched just from raising and lowering it.
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I bought the "Jet" style to use on the range. (We wear our lids for an hour or so at a stretch while walking and talking in the C2 position). Nice enough for the task but the lining is scratchy even in cooler weather. Bell has been the best for me since the 70's. Shields are the easiest to change of any and I have used Fulmer, Shoei and AGV as well.
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The old, "How much is your head worth?" question. My general rule of thumb, with most any product, is never go cheapest, rarely go highest.
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Personally, I wouldn't tryst them. I don't have an issue with inexpensive helmets, as long as they come from a reputable company. I've bought other Bilt products: boots, gloves and jackets, and they haven't held up well. Boots basically fell apart in less than 1 season. Not sure I'd trust my head to their helmets.
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My general rule of thumb, with most any product, is never go cheapest, rarely go highest.
That's a good rule of thumb! ;-T
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I have a Shark EvoLine series 2, I like the chinbar swinging all the way back, and the fact that it won't twist your neck if you go down with the chinbar open
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Bilt offers value. I picked up a Pilot helmet for summer riding. Since it was $60, nice to have a spare. I could say the same about HJC and other bargain brands. It does seem like the Bilt products are among the best value/lowest cost.
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I have a Shark EvoLine series 2, I like the chinbar swinging all the way back, and the fact that it won't twist your neck if you go down with the chinbar open
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Cool helmet!
I tend towards having an oval head and wear an XL.
Can you offer up some insight on how it fits?
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I bought a Bilt modular with the internal flip down shade.
Won't be buying another one as it was noisy, loosened up very quickly, and the optics of the shield and shade bothered me. Nothing really broke on it but I only wore it for a month or so. YMMV as I am a bit of a helmet-ophile. Got at least a dozen on the shelf that are lightly used. Other modulars (4 or 5 from different brands) that I have seem to catch too much wind when I turn my head at speed.
Currently got a Joe Rocket (made by HJC) std FF from Motorcyclegear.com that was on closeout. Worn it for two seasons and bought another just like it for when it wears out. Small, light and simple seem to be the best for me.
Darren
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I had a Bilt. It was noisy, but the worst thing I found about it as that it got up against the exhaust pipe whilst hanging on the handlebar and the pipe actually melted a hole through it. I'll definitely pass on any more Bilts!
Bare
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The old, "How much is your head worth?" question. My general rule of thumb, with most any product, is never go cheapest, rarely go highest.
Some of the reviews of helmets I've read conclude that a higher priced helmet doesn't necessarily mean better protection. What you get for more money, according to those tests, is a more comfortable, lighter, better finished helmet. But not necessarily a safer one. There also has been some dispute over the meaningfulness of safety standards.
Rich A
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Some of the reviews of helmets I've read conclude that a higher priced helmet doesn't necessarily mean better protection. What you get for more money, according to those tests, is a more comfortable, lighter, better finished helmet. But not necessarily a safer one. There also has been some dispute over the meaningfulness of safety standards.
Rich A
Agreed that is what some articles have concluded.
But "lighter" is an interesting point, no?
Do any helmet tests/certifications attempt to quantify the potential effect on safety the weight of the helmet has?
I would think lighter is potentially safer.
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Some of the reviews of helmets I've read conclude that a higher priced helmet doesn't necessarily mean better protection.
Rich A
For sure. But I've sold enough and purchased enough helmets to know that the cheapest ones simply are not made of the stuff I trust for my head. The subtle and not so subtle difference between plastic fasteners and metal fasteners, or just between different plastics for that matter, not to mention overall comfort, noise levels, etc, etc. There is a ton of quality to be found between the cheapest of the cheap and the priciest options, and that's where I tend to spend my money.
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I'd love to find a $50 - $100 - $200 helmet that fits my head like an Arai. Wish Arai would make a modular. The Schuberth almost accommodates my long oval head [but the cost!] I'll keep looking for a bargain out there but there must be a reason I keep my old Signet, Signet GT and Profile on the shelf for spares.
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Cool helmet!
I tend towards having an oval head and wear an XL.
Can you offer up some insight on how it fits?
I fit the arai signet and corsair perfectly, this has a bit of forehead pressure, similar to what a shoei RF1000 felt for me.
I worked the foam with me fingers and that helped. I feel it lacks ventilation when closed, and wearing sunglasses can be a pain depending on the design, but the built in sunshade takes care of the sun anyway
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As far as helmet weight..........of course a modular helmet weighs more than a conventional full face helmet. It has more parts in it and the same goes for it being noisier(w/o ear plugs), it has more openings(cracks) in it.
A minus of light helmets is it can cause your head to bounce around more in turbulent wind. So that and what speeds you ride at can make all this subject variable. I don't ride behind a barn door windshield so these complaints I don't find important in my use of a full coverage helmet. I have a half helmet but only use it for short trips to/thru town.
As stated earlier, the price of your helmet has nothing to do with the protection you get when it really counts. If all the helmets are DOT approved, that's as far as your protection goes in an accident. Yes, more expensive helmets can be more comfortable/convenient to use for protection. But that's as far as accident protection goes comparing the different priced helmets. The more demanding you are the more your desired helmet is going to cost. ;)
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As far as helmet weight..........of course a modular helmet weighs more than a conventional full face helmet. It has more parts in it and the same goes for it being noisier(w/o ear plugs), it has more openings(cracks) in it.
A minus of light helmets is it can cause your head to bounce around more in turbulent wind. So that and what speeds you ride at can make all this subject variable. I don't ride behind a barn door windshield so these complaints I don't find important in my use of a full coverage helmet. I have a half helmet but only use it for short trips to/thru town.
As stated earlier, the price of your helmet has nothing to do with the protection you get when it really counts. If all the helmets are DOT approved, that's as far as your protection goes in an accident. Yes, more expensive helmets can be more comfortable/convenient to use for protection. But that's as far as accident protection goes comparing the different priced helmets. The more demanding you are the more your desired helmet is going to cost. ;)
I think you completely missed my question.
It's been a while since I read anything about helmet test standards, but I seem to remember they are about dropping a weight onto the helmet to see how it absorbs the impact.
If that's all they do, then it doesn't sound like they've looked at what effect the weight (and shape) of the helmet might have on neck injuries or other possible negative effects in an accident.
IF that's the case, then some of those magazine studies that suggested cheaper might be "just as safe" may have missed something that might make some of them "less so". Just a thought.
Also I'm not sure I buy that a heavier helmet helps to keep your head from bouncing around in turbulent winds (or even if true that unless you have a particularly bad windshield/fairing/screen/riding position that you should HAVE to deal with "turbulent" winds all the time.
I would think that helmet shape would have a huge impact on comfort in those conditions either way.
This thread has really got me thinking of upgrading helmets again - Jenn really needs a decent replacement for her old and heavy HJC FF - I think we're gonna look at some Arai's - but maybe also some other brands if they can match or come close in comfort.
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www.sharp.direct.go v.uk has comparative tests for helmets. Model names are Euro but the data is interesting. Price may not indicate protective ability but we knew that, right?
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I think you completely missed my question.
It's been a while since I read anything about helmet test standards, but I seem to remember they are about dropping a weight onto the helmet to see how it absorbs the impact.
If that's all they do, then it doesn't sound like they've looked at what effect the weight (and shape) of the helmet might have on neck injuries or other possible negative effects in an accident.
IF that's the case, then some of those magazine studies that suggested cheaper might be "just as safe" may have missed something that might make some of them "less so". Just a thought.
Also I'm not sure I buy that a heavier helmet helps to keep your head from bouncing around in turbulent winds (or even if true that unless you have a particularly bad windshield/fairing/screen/riding position that you should HAVE to deal with "turbulent" winds all the time.
I would think that helmet shape would have a huge impact on comfort in those conditions either way.
This thread has really got me thinking of upgrading helmets again - Jenn really needs a decent replacement for her old and heavy HJC FF - I think we're gonna look at some Arai's - but maybe also some other brands if they can match or come close in comfort.
I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you. I've ridden(50) more years than you on more bikes than you and have crash tested more bike helmets than you. :-* You live life as you wish I am too.
I finally got to a Cycle Gear shop and saw the Bilt modular helmets they sell I tried on 2 of their models and have decided to order the newest version. I didn't find it overweight and was impressed with the quality. Only time will tell if I stay satisfied. They have a 5 year warranty so will take my chances. Since I was out of State they said there was no problem ordering it to be delivered to my house. The employees were more than accommodating. ;-T
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I own a Bilt modular. It's okay for around town use but I wouldn't use it on a long trip cause it's noisy at highway speeds. It also runs a bit big. I bought the small and it is a tad too large but for the price I'm not complaining. I used my HJC on the Italy trip instead of packing the Bilt which took up more room in my luggage, it's a big mutha'.
Going back to Italy this month for another month, renting a car this time. Gathering paperwork for citizenship and looking at rental property to see what's available for us to rent till we find the house we like :)
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I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you. I've ridden(50) more years than you on more bikes than you and have crash tested more bike helmets than you. :-* You live life as you wish I am too.
Wow, what was that for?
Not a pissing match, just posing some thoughts that weren't addressed by your position on the subject and that also seem not to be addressed by helmet crash studies.
No need to take a quest for knowledge personally, I certainly didn't mean any offense or insult by the innocent discussion.
Perhaps more fiber in your diet will help. ;) :P :BEER:
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I tried on the Expoler helmet (bought a XT350 so I have to look the part ;D) and looking through the face shield ,it was so distorted I couldn't wear it riding I would have a headache in 10 minutes, other then that for a $100 on sale (seems it's always on sale) it looked okay, I wouldn't pay more then that though.
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While trying on/looking @ the Bilt mod. helmets I bought a pair of Bilt waterproof/insulated gloves w/gauntlet for $20 that ARE waterproof !!! ;-T :BEER:
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Competition Accessories is having a sale on Shoei Multitec modulars right at $300. You can't go wrong at that price.
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If I wanted to spend $300 for a new helmet I'd just go head and buy another Nolan mod. helmet. I used to have $50 head. ;) My head is worth $200 max, IMHO. :BEER:
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FWIW, HJC has a massive factory in Korea and they manufacture helmets for a number of brands. Maybe it's like bicycles, you spec out the helmet, it's built overseas by someone else, and you handle the branding and marketing. Seems to be how Bell and Biltwell do business, assume that to be true for Bilt, Joe Rocket, and many many others.
One of the cycle mags made a big splash a few years ago by publishing the results of their lab work, which showed light, inexpensive helmets doing a better job at protecting the head/face/neck than heavier and more expensive helmets. Their contention was that DOT standards were actually working against safety by being overly focused on the penetration test (steady on, boys).
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One of the cycle mags made a big splash a few years ago by publishing the results of their lab work, which showed light, inexpensive helmets doing a better job at protecting the head/face/neck than heavier and more expensive helmets. Their contention was that DOT standards were actually working against safety by being overly focused on the penetration test (steady on, boys).
Not to aggravate anyone, but do you have some of the facts twisted.
Generally expensive helmets are lighter in weight (there are of course exceptions).
And I thought the article suggested that SNELL ratings were overly concerned with multiple impacts leading to a stiffer shell that might transmit more force.
But I may have some facts wrong to and have no doubt that if so someone will assist.
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Snell works mainly for sports car racers, not MC riders. Yes, their criteria for safety is thusly slanted for car drivers, not MC riders. I have talked to them @ MC shows and they verified to me their standards are only added safety to up to 25 mph head on helmet impact. There is only so much a helmet can do to protect your brain. But since most head impacts are glances/ricochets, your probability of surviving a head impact is greater. :BEER: BTW, Snell, is located in Sacramento, Calif.
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Well, I finally got my Bilt Apollo modular helmet in white, XXL size. The dang thing looks so good visually I don't even want to get it dirty ! ??? Up to now I've worn Shoei and Nolan helmets mainly. This Bilt looks like a $200 helmet as far as quality. I got it for $100 as a closeout @ Cycle Gear. It fits my head like a glove, including my chin. 8) I wore it today for a ride in windy/gusty conditions w/no ear plugs to see how noisy it is that way. On my bikes/scooters I get all the wind on the helmet and prefer it that way. W/o ear plugs I didn't find this helmet any noiser than my previous Nolan(2) helmets. During exposure to different wind conditions I did get a little whistling but nothing to really get upset about. With ear plugs(I usually wear) on I might not even hear any whistling. Weight wise it might be a little heavier than my Nolan, but it has a drop down tinted lense my Nolan doesn't have. Both lenses are distortion free, IMHO.
Only nit picks I have right now is that both the outside lense lift tab and chinbar vent switch are very close together. As far as air cooling, I can't tell if it's better than my Nolan or not. 1 thing missing on this Bilt is a padded chinbar. Since whenever I crash I always go down frontally, hope I never find out if this missing item makes any difference. :-\
The helmet does NOT look cheaply built. ;-T The helmet has clear coated paint and the helmet came with a spiffy bag cover. So far I have no regrets buying it, especially for $100 !! :BEER: This is my 3rd modular helmet. The other 2 are still useable. Am looking forward to using it on my next long ride. :)
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Thanks for your review!
I have a Shoei size head, and may look into the BiLT in the future.
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Cool helmet!
I tend towards having an oval head and wear an XL.
Can you offer up some insight on how it fits?
Rocker, I wore the helmet closed riding my leMans on a two hour commute, and it was very annoying. The chinbar is quite elongated and this would put side load on my neck and buffeting. It was very tiring compared to my Arai.
It's fine on a "sit down" bike like my Norge or a Cali I would imagine, but sucks when riding in a crouch.
Cheers
Kai
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Funny you should say this, Kai. Obviously you and I have different shaped heads. Other than my scooters I lean forward, not upright due to my lower back issues. :'( On my scooters I have enough back support to ride comfortably all day upright. Since helmets are designed for different shaped heads, anyone buying a new helmet should 1st see if THAT helmet was made for their shaped head. ;) I did that in this case and this helmet works for me. :BEER:
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I used to be a Snell snob. But, I got over it when looking at some of their test practices these days. As stated above, they are a car safety org mainly. Snell was founded due to a death in a sports car crash due to an inferior helmet. So, it is no wonder how they developed their standards.
For single impact type of crashes almost any of the std helmets will work and protect your head. I would not hesitate to buy a Bilt and I do have an HJC I wear on a regular basis along with the Shoei I sometimes also wear.
Quality is another thing. Yeah the Shoei feels more solid (it should be, it's heavy enough), the interior is higher quality, straps and D rings are 'thicker'. But, the Shoei fogs easy (even with a pinlock), the face shields are far too expensive, and it will still 'wear out'. Oh, and I had to do things to make it fit comfortably (shave some foam at hot spots and remove foam from the cheek pads). [I do have a weird shape head that few helmets fit properly]
Yep, my head is worth a billion bucks, but, why pay that much for a helmet when I can get the same protection for $200?
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my HJC Symax is literally falling apart. Now the vent flap fell off. I tried on the two Bilt modular helmets, the cheap on was pretty heavy and the better one (with the mic) wouldn't close. The salesman told me to get a larger helmet (no) or to squeeze each side of the helmet when I closed the chin bar (it still didn't close). I did purchase a Bilt 3/4 for $50 a year ago, I would rate it cheap but it's for occasional wear.
The Shoei idea sounds pretty good to me. I am tired of cheap helmets.
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My boss just picked up a Built modular with Bluetooth. It looks nice-from a construction standpoint- and he compliments the comfort. I bought a full face for my daughter last year & thought it close in comparison to the Bell models on display.
Those helmet test articles are still a very interesting read & a good debate:
http://jalopnik.com/5582380/how-the-truth-about-motorcycle-helmets-got-a-journalist-fired
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/27/automobiles/27SNELL.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
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Funny you should say this, Kai. Obviously you and I have different shaped heads. Other than my scooters I lean forward, not upright due to my lower back issues. :'( On my scooters I have enough back support to ride comfortably all day upright. Since helmets are designed for different shaped heads, anyone buying a new helmet should 1st see if THAT helmet was made for their shaped head. ;) I did that in this case and this helmet works for me. :BEER:
So true Wayne. Everything changes from one person to the next. Height, arm reach, relationship to the fairing etc. my experience was on my leMans and there was a very big difference in buffeting from wearing my arai (none) vs the shark (unbearable).
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I bought a Bilt modular because I was in the store, they had them on sale, and I never tried a modular.. Its OK but like the old saying goes"you get what you pay for" its noisy(even with ear plugs) fit is a bit sloppy and it has a kind of weird smell to it that hasnt gone away in the year of ownership..I really never wear it but it is always good to have extra brain buckets on hand.. I recently bought a Shoei GT air and the differance is amazing but considering the Shoei is over $600. and the Bilt was about $100 I guess thats to be expected but worth every penny..
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I bought a Bilt Apollo mod. helmet and other than found it's top lense seal has a big gap(allowing no rain seal & more noise) and it weighs more than I had hoped, it is lasting parts wise and I have used it for almost 2 years on long distance trips , added a foam weather strip on the top lense seal area which has stopped excess noise and now the helmet is pretty much water proof. For my $100 price I'm happy now. :boozing:
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I have an older (and expensive in its time) Shoei rf1000 with both snell and DOT certs. The interior foam is degrading and flaking off after about 10 years. Time to buy another helmet. :bike-037:
After reading the New York Times article and the accompanying article, I won't bother looking for the Snell cert. but instead the ece and/or DOT. Quality, fit and finish are important to me though, especially in the helmet lining. The Shoei rf1000 didnt' allow replacing the whole lining, just check pads. I like the Bell 3/4 but I wonder if it is too hot in the summer. It doesn't appear to have any ventilation. Anyway, I'll likely go into cycle gear and try on what they have... doesn't really matter the style or name-brand so long as it fits and seems good value.
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Try a Kabuto. With helmets you most often get what you pay for.
If you have a round head, Nolan is OK. Oval, Shoei but IMHO Kabuto is better.
Bilt is economy. The better helmets might cost more but they fit better, their face shields don't scratch as easily, they are quieter and ventilate easier.
A helmet is not the time to go cheap.
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Try a Kabuto. With helmets you most often get what you pay for.
If you have a round head, Nolan is OK. Oval, Shoei but IMHO Kabuto is better.
Bilt is economy. The better helmets might cost more but they fit better, their face shields don't scratch as easily, they are quieter and ventilate easier.
A helmet is not the time to go cheap.
As for ventilation, my Bilt does just fine. But it's not good in cold. Ventilation varies from 1 model to the next, not by quality. www.WebBikeworld is a good place to find these things out. www.CompetitionAcce ssories does videos of their helmets and tell you about ventilation results too. :smiley:
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I do not think a Tupperware bowl could pass the DOT 318 standard. I hope they never test one cause it just might. Put a chin strap one and the next great helmet value could be Tupperware. :thewife: :boozing:
Matt
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As far as helmet weight..........of course a modular helmet weighs more than a conventional full face helmet. It has more parts in it and the same goes for it being noisier(w/o ear plugs), it has more openings(cracks) in it.
A minus of light helmets is it can cause your head to bounce around more in turbulent wind. So that and what speeds you ride at can make all this subject variable. I don't ride behind a barn door windshield so these complaints I don't find important in my use of a full coverage helmet. I have a half helmet but only use it for short trips to/thru town.
As stated earlier, the price of your helmet has nothing to do with the protection you get when it really counts. If all the helmets are DOT approved, that's as far as your protection goes in an accident. Yes, more expensive helmets can be more comfortable/convenient to use for protection. But that's as far as accident protection goes comparing the different priced helmets. The more demanding you are the more your desired helmet is going to cost. ;)
The Kabuto weighs the same or less than a conventional full face helmet. The reason modular helmets sometimes weigh more is design, not that is must be so.
The Schuberth is a lighter modular but pick up a Kabuto and you'll be amazed at how light it is.
When it comes to protection, there is the perception that a modular doesn't offer as much protection. While that may or may not be true, once you get into the realm of that much force and damage, a helmet regardless of who makes it or what certifications it has is probably the least thing to worry about.
IMHO, if the impact is so great that a modular of high quality is defeated and your brain is like overcooked peas, the rest of your body probably isn't in any better shape.
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When it comes to protection, there is the perception that a modular doesn't offer as much protection. While that may or may not be true, once you get into the realm of that much force and damage, a helmet regardless of who makes it or what certifications it has is probably the least thing to worry about.
IMHO, if the impact is so great that a modular of high quality is defeated and your brain is like overcooked peas, the rest of your body probably isn't in any better shape.
The SDHP did a study of 167 fatalities. What you say is true. :boozing:
Matt
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I have worn Shoei, Scorpion, HJC, AGV, and Nolan as my last few helmets. My favorites have been the Nolan, and the Scorpion, with the AGV being the least favorite.
The Scorpion helmets are worth looking at, decent quality at a decent price. The Nolan fits very well, and has the best optical quality in the shield. I think Shoei makes a great helmet, but is very expensive for what you get. HJC is a decent helmet for the money, but I like the scorpion and Nolan helmets better. The AGV modular helmet pretty much self destructed after a season and a half of riding.
I know, a rambling incoherent review of a few helmets, :boozing: but my experience leads me to recommend the Scorpion and the Nolan
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I've had my Techno Evolution a little over a week now and I really like it. My two biggest complaints are it is almost impossible to close the chinbar with one hand and i wish the eye port were an 1/4 inch higher. Putting the helmet on my glasses get pushed down but somehow don't seem to be uncomfortable once underway somehow.
http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=76840.msg1213147#msg1213147
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The SDHP did a study of 167 fatalities. What you say is true. :boozing:
Matt
Your brain can't take hits as much as the rest of your body can and when it does take a hit it can't rebuild itself like most your other body parts can. That's if the 1st brain hit is not fatal. There is not a helmet made that can protect your brain from a head on impact into a solid object safely for more than 25 mph. If you don't believe me call Snell. Luckily most brain impacts are glances, not head on collisions. The styrofoam construction in a helmet is what absorbs the initial impact between your outside object and brain. If the impact is too fast your brain is toast and you are dead or a vegetable `till you die. Ride on.............. :boozing:
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Can't help on the Bilt but if you're looking for a "cheap" quality helmet then a Caberg Duke looks like it ticks all the boxes if you can get them in the US
http://www.caberg.it/caberg_caschi_caberg_helmets.php?mod=DK&color=SB&p=1&lang=en (http://www.caberg.it/caberg_caschi_caberg_helmets.php?mod=DK&color=SB&p=1&lang=en)
I'm about to pull the trigger on one - the Legend Italia :bow:
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I am not so interested in Modular helmets but the Kabuto Ibuki looks like a pretty good helmet if it fits. I would but a Shoei Qwest but my problem is it has no removable liner. Does not come with a pinlock ready shield or a pinloch insert. So even if the price is good if you add a shoei pinlock shield and insert and a tinted shield you add another $150.00 at least.
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The Caberg Duke comes in the box with:-
Pinlock ready shield
Pinlock insert
Internal tinted visor
Removable liner
Sharp 5 rating with the chin bar up or down
All for 179.99 Stirling
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I am not so interested in Modular helmets but the Kabuto Ibuki looks like a pretty good helmet if it fits. I would but a Shoei Qwest but my problem is it has no removable liner. Does not come with a pinlock ready shield or a pinloch insert. So even if the price is good if you add a shoei pinlock shield and insert and a tinted shield you add another $150.00 at least.
If you wear a headskin/do rag like I do you should never need to wash your liner. If you get a helmet w/a drop down tinted lense you don't need another lense. :smiley:
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If you wear a headskin/do rag like I do you should never need to wash your liner. If you get a helmet w/a drop down tinted lense you don't need another lense. :smiley:
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Yup. If you don't wear a headwrap or balaclava or something similar, your head just sits in the sweat from the last ride.
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I have been riding with the Bilt bluettoth helmet for over a year. There were chin latch problems with the initial lot and had to replace it twice. Once that problem was resolved it has been the most comfortable helmet I've worn. The bluetooth is excellent sound quality. Recently, my wife wanted to replace her HJC Symax and purcharsed the latest addition to the Bilt modular blue tooth helmet. It had better ventilation with better internal lining and they allowed me to swap out my helmet for the difference in price.
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Yup. If you don't wear a headwrap or balaclava or something similar, your head just sits in the sweat from the last ride.
Not quite. Your sweat will still get through to the liner. Not as much, but on a longer ride it gets just as nasty as without the balaclava. BTDT for many years when helmets did not have removable liners. I used to wash my Shoei in the sink. Fill the helmet with water and soap and scrub.
Now days I just put the helmet on over my bald head. After each longer ride or every week or two of commuting I pull out the liner and wash it. I won't buy a helmet these days without a removable liner. And on some trips I wear a balaclava as well.
I wish I could wear a Nolan. I have tried just about every model they make. Their liner design crushes my ears.
I tried Shark's Evoline but it felt like I was wearing a brick.
Ended up with an HJC Symax III (thanks to a generous Guzzi fellow). It has proven really good. Now going on my second year with it. Yes, I would get another one. FYI, it may be noisy on a more naked bike.
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Not quite. Your sweat will still get through to the liner. Not as much, but on a longer ride it gets just as nasty as without the balaclava. BTDT for many years when helmets did not have removable liners. I used to wash my Shoei in the sink. Fill the helmet with water and soap and scrub.
Now days I just put the helmet on over my bald head. After each longer ride or every week or two of commuting I pull out the liner and wash it. I won't buy a helmet these days without a removable liner. And on some trips I wear a balaclava as well.
I wish I could wear a Nolan. I have tried just about every model they make. Their liner design crushes my ears.
I tried Shark's Evoline but it felt like I was wearing a brick.
Ended up with an HJC Symax III (thanks to a generous Guzzi fellow). It has proven really good. Now going on my second year with it. Yes, I would get another one. FYI, it may be noisy on a more naked bike.
My wife makes my headskin for me out of cotton and my sweat does not soak thru it. I am also bald on top. Don't know what your balaclava is made out of. My helmet liners look like new inside. But I also ride in a dry climate mostly.
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Silk or cotton (silk in winter, cotton in summer). Ride a lot in the desert. If the balaclava is damp it means your liner has taken a hit too. No, not as bad if you were going without, but, it still takes a hit.