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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: normzone on January 22, 2014, 06:44:08 PM
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Thanks so much to all of you for your counsel - I just closed auction on Ebay, highest of two bidders at $3741 on a 1999 Bassa with 42K miles. My wife wants to drive us to AZ and follow me back, so my life is changing rapidly.
I'll keep you posted on the saga - Thanks again folks.
Norman :)
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Congratulations, and have fun.
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Fabulous!
Pictures or it didn't happen.
Seriously, have fun and ride safe.
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I will ride safe. I also imagine that since I haven't done eight hours straight on a bike since the eighties (my first Eldo!) that I'll be cramped and crippled when I get home, but nothing massage and drugs can't deal with.
As for pics, I believe the correct terminology is TOGTFO, or something like that. I'll get some pics of the bike, and then we'll see what mood my woman is in. Is there a section of this forum for such content?
Yeah, I'm stoked. Road trip tomorrow...
Norman
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You are the "MAN" now..
8 hours can be long.. drink water, stop and stretch legs often. be well fed.. got a good quiet helmet? bring ear plugs.. sun block?..
tubeless repair kit in case?
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What Fotoguzzi said...and congratulations! Ride safely amd carefully - a '99 Bassa is a whole lot more scooter than an 850 Eldo! 8)
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I was bidding against you. I am in Tucson and looked at the bike. You are getting a great deal. Congratulations!
Roger in Tucson
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Yes, drinking a good amount of water is the key to staving off leg cramps. Enjoy your trip!! Will be a fun day. ;-T
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What am I doing wrong? I checked eBay under "completed listings" and can't find it. I was just interested in seeing the photos of what you're getting.
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I will ride safe. I also imagine that since I haven't done eight hours straight on a bike since the eighties (my first Eldo!) that I'll be cramped and crippled when I get home, but nothing massage and drugs can't deal with.
As for pics, I believe the correct terminology is TOGTFO, or something like that. I'll get some pics of the bike, and then we'll see what mood my woman is in. Is there a section of this forum for such content?
Yeah, I'm stoked. Road trip tomorrow...
Norman
Yes, but those threads usually get yanked pretty quickly. ;D
Congrats on that new Guzzi. Have a safe ride ... when getting it and miles of smiles for years after.
Bill
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Moto-Guzzi-V11-Bassa-/131094608209?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=o8BhRCYD6o22I8%252FGs4OQ6WHiWCM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Moto-Guzzi-V11-Bassa-/131094608209?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=o8BhRCYD6o22I8%252FGs4OQ6WHiWCM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)
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Nice looking bike!. I like the seat. If I'd had that on my Cal III I might not have sold it.
Tobit
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YUP nice ride!!!
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Many smiles and miles!
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Thanks rogeratdserve, I still don't know why it's not showing up for me in a completed listings search. That's a lot of Guzzi for the money, and it looks like the seller took good care of it.
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Congrats Norman. Great machine at a great price!
-Steve
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Great looking Guzzi, congrats.
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Nice accessories on the bike, too. You might want to search the site for some minor issues with the Bassa: trim, throttle body covers, minor stuff like that.
Rich A
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Thanks all, for your support and encouragement. We broke the trip up into a couple of legs to make it easy.
Vail to Tucson (in the dark) Tucson to Yuma, Yuma to Escondido.
It was a blast, that's one hell of a machine. Doesn't seem to matter what gear it's in, it does whatever you ask of it.
What should I use on that beautiful pearl white paint? And the fairing plastic? Who likes what kind of tires?
The PO recommended a new battery - it's not due yet but he said when the previous one died on him there were no warning signs.
I'll get you pics...
Norman
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Oddessey battery gets most positive reviews..
you don't lug this motor like a Harley.. It likes to rev, shift over 4k even up to 6500rpm.
on the paint, a tank cover..
Pirelli !
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Good for you! have fun, when your sore as hell, there's no doubt you're alive-enjoy ;-T
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Norm,
Nice catch, that looks well cared for and nicely optioned with all the best goodies.
Ride safe!
Ciao,
Kip
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:) Norman thanks all of you again for your involvement in my new bike - and now I've another question.
What all does a responsible '99 Bassa rider carry in his saddle bags? Relays, a tube or tubeless patch kit (both? tire irons?) dealer / shop list and numbers?
Do I need a full metric set wrenches and sockets, or does the bike only use a few?
I know I could figure this out on my own over the next couple of years, but I've been reading repair/breakdown threads here, and I wanted to speed the learning curve.
Thanks much -
Norman
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cell phone.
rain gear.
for sure own 10,13,17 and 19mm wrenches and sockets.. other sizes less used 11, 12mm not sure you have to haul them everywhere, I do..
and a tubeless repair kit with Co2 canisters to pump tire back up. then a CC if you can't patch or inflate the tire..or since you probably don't have a center stand the repair kit might not be needed, a tow truck will be.. think about adding a centerstand from any EV or with a little mod the older Tonti CS can work. if you need tire irons with your tubeless tires you'll probably be needing a new tire so let the shop worry about that.. I don't carry iron accept on a tube tire bike..
bring a full set of hex/allen wrenches, ball tip if your buying new. don't buy craftsman hex wrenches, they are slightly undersize and can round out the hex hole.
a good book can keep you occupied while waiting for rescue..
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Ultra reliable bike. Just pack this:
(http://www.forpeatsake.com/Images/Bottles/The_Glenlivet/The_Glenlivet_The_Glenlivet_18_Years_Old_18_.jpg)
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Much thanks. I do have a centerstand. So a repair kit with Co2 it is.
That bottle is likely to be one of the more expensive purchases. And I've broken bottles in my luggage before, it smells good but makes you sad anyway.
" rain gear " I'd not planned on riding in it, and in So Cal we don't get much...which makes some kind of single use wet gear a good idea, since I may singlehandedly change the climate if I'm lucky.
"10,13,17 and 19mm wrenches and sockets.. other sizes less used 11, 12mm not sure you have to haul them everywhere, I do.. " Time to clean the garage (closet on my apartment patio) and see what I have doubles of.
" hex/allen wrenches, ball tip " Okay, shopping time. I'm going to change out the battery soon, the PO said there were no warning signs before the last one went down.
Thanks again - this is such a gas. It's been somewhat over twenty years since I last Guzzied, this is FUN !
Norman
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We were traveling north up the Cassiar Highway along the coast of British Columbia... an alternative to the Alaska Highway, and with long lonely stretches with lots of gravel. While stopped at an overlook a semi pulled up and said "there is a motorcycle broken down with a flat tire about 10 miles up the road". We hurried on, and sure enough, there was a forlorn BMW GS rider along the side of the road. I pulled my bike up to him and without saying anything got the can of fix-a flat out of my bags (Yeah, I know, many people prefer pumps, but it is what I had), walked over to him and said "I hope you appreciate the fact that I have brought this can all the way from New Mexico, especially for you". He was dumbfounded. His wheel had hit a rough rut and knocked the tire loose from the rim, breaking the air seal. But we had a problem... the tire would not seal to the rim. I fashioned a length of 3/8 inch rope with loops at both ends, wrapped it around the circumference of the tire and twisted it with a screwdriver. It pressed the tire to the rim so that the seal would start, and the tire inflated. He was on his way south feeling like the gods had smiled on him. To this day I always carry a length of rope with loops at both ends as part of my tool kit.
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- 12V test light is a big help in troubleshooting electrical stuff.
- MGNOC contact directory (if you're a member)
- A relay is always handy although I never had any problems with mine.
- A few miscellaneous fasteners, tie wraps, wire, tape, and whatever for kluging something together to get you home.
Credit Card
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The best tool to carry is a credit card.
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I always carry my Free harbor freight Voltmeter using the coupon and their cheap test light in my Lunchbox Saddlebags.
(http://www.fatwallet.com/static/attachments/95819_meter.jpg)
(http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_1005.jpg)
I took My newly acquired Convert for shakedown cruise after working on it and was running good so figure Fill up with Gas.
Turn it off fill it up try to start it and yes NO POWER to starter
Yes dumb me LEFT the light and Meter on my tool cart. Now I carry one in each of my bikes. LOL
Progressive roadside service on my bikes too . The tow would have been $65 for a 1.8 mile tow.
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a3ce32b3127ccef40eec1e20ca00000030O01EbuXLRq0ZA9vPh4/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00204054909720131013102236692.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/)
Leroy In Cleveland
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I love the rope story - I always keep FixAFlat in my car trunk, but didn't even think about for the bike. Duhh....
Has anybody used the gasoline explosion in your tire trick to set the bead?
12V tester is another thing I'd not thought of - my Camry has kind of softened me up for the real world.
My bike came with a MGNOC decal on the front fender - does that mean I need to join, or do I get membership along with getting the decal ;-)
And a friend of mine gave me a coupon a few weeks ago for the Harbor Freight meter - I wonder how he knew.
You guys rock...
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It's not like you are going to do a major overhaul on the side of the road. The standard tool kit is adequate for normal roadside repairs. I also carry a leatherman type tool. Make sure it has a corkscrew and bottle opener. ;D A standard light bulb with leads soldered on it gives you a "usable power or not usable power" indication. I carry a spare relay, but have never needed one. A guy at Camp Carlo needed one several years ago though. Tried to pay me for it. Silly boy..
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" It's not like you are going to do a major overhaul on the side of the road... carry a leatherman type tool. Make sure it has a corkscrew and bottle opener. "
Supreme advice.
" There is at least one 8 mm nut "
And you just increased the odds that I will never have a fuel pump failure on the road. Thank you sir.
Is there anybody in So Cal that offers good roadside assistance outside of Progressive?
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I elected to get the roadside coverage, with tubed tires on both my T-3 and Convert. They are tubed tires and I have not changed a tube in 45 years on ANYTHING. LOL The cost is about 1.20 per month PER bike. I am worth it. ;-T
Leroy in Cleveland
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Well that doesn't sound too pricey. A good just in case.
I got quotes. When my wonderful wife gets home I'll find out if I'm getting only liability insurance at $12 a month, comprehensive and collision (covers fire, theft, vandalism) with a $500 deductible for $27 a month, or with a $100 deductible for $37 a month.
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Well that doesn't sound too pricey. A good just in case.
I got quotes. When my wonderful wife gets home I'll find out if I'm getting only liability insurance at $12 a month, comprehensive and collision (covers fire, theft, vandalism) with a $500 deductible for $27 a month, or with a $100 deductible for $37 a month.
Not to high jack this tool kit thread, In ohio we are not a no fault state and I have max coverage for UNINSURED AND UNDERINSURED. There are too many people without any insurance, or just have state minimums and IF I survive a wreck someone will pay. I had a friend with just 100k and the guy hit him ONLY had 100k too, so he was unable to recoupe his 1 yr off work , months in the hospital permanent damage to his arm and manhood.
Pay the max coverage if you state dictates you should.
Leroy in Cleveland
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I usually carry a lot more tools and supplies than I need. I always carry my Leatherman.
Set of 3/8 sockets and hex sockets. Spark plug socket. Set of combination wrenches. Hex driver with set of bits. And a set of Bondus allen wrenches. Vise grips. And the factory wrench for the axle and drain plug.
Before I went tubeless I carried tire irons, C clamp, patches and tube. Now just a plug kit and compressor. And some extra schrader valves.
Two extra spark plugs, small bit of bailing wire, steel zip ties, plastic zip ties, duct tape, electrical tape, fuzes, some electrical wire, and some blade type terminals.
Then there is the extra quart of oil, extra throttle cable and extra clutch cable.
With all this the only things I have used on the road are for changing the throttle and clutch cables...a screwdriver and a couple of sticks (for synching the carbs) or 13mm open end wrench. Oh, and I have topped off the oil when on a trip.
FYI, for electrical troubleshooting I just take a bulb out of one of the sockets and tape wire to it. Ground the bulb (or touch to pos terminal) and touch the wire to whatever I want to test. The only time I needed to troubleshoot electrical I didn't need the bulb. I could see the sparks :) Just a loose ground from battery to frame.
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A 12 volt trouble light with long wires is more valuable on the roadside then a meter.
Carry spare fuses and at least one spare relay.
Do you have tubeless tires? I think you have tube type. Are you able to patch a tube by the roadside? If not, a can of tire goo (fix a flat) and a cell phone are the best.
I always carry a bit of wire and some connectors like the Posi-twist, just in case.
A spare headlight bulb. It sucks having no headlight at night.
Join the MGNOC and carry a copy of the contact list.
go ride.
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These are allegedly tubeless - I have not attempted to verify, nor would I know a tubeless tire if it bit me.
In my experience a tube gone flat is usually dead and chewed to pieces before the bike gets stopped, so I always just replaced the tube. Now I guess I'll need to learn to patch tubeless tires. In my service station days this was done on cars with an awl-like device threaded like a sewing needle with a strip of media and some goop.
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All Bassa came with center stand and tubeless wheels.
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In my experience a tube gone flat is usually dead and chewed to pieces before the bike gets stopped,
New one on me. I've patched about a dozen tubes over the years with no such issues. I have had a couple of tubeless tires with holes too big to plug. Too bad they weren't tubes that I could have patched.
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Yeah, I may have been overreacting, but I felt replacement was cheap insurance.
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All Bassa came with center stand and tubeless wheels.
I have owned 2 Bassa's neither had a centerstand until I put one on.
tubeless rims have the spokes to a flange not the center of the rim..
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/fotoguzzi/IMG_1347.jpg)
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Your right Foto, now that I think about it I had to add the centerstand! Dah!
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My 1999 Bassa has tubeless rims and a center stand. I put "Ride-On" in the tires and don't worry about getting a flat. But now that I have jinxed myself I will start carrying the slime pump and tubeless repair kit. I only carry the factory tool kit and have not had a problem for 10K miles over the past 2 years. :bike
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" slime pump "...is that Fix-A-Flat?
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" slime pump "...is that Fix-A-Flat?
It is a small air compressor made by the company that makes 'Slime' tire sealant.
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Much thanks. And my wife responded the way I hoped she would - I've arranged for comprehensive and collision (covers fire, theft, vandalism) with a $100 deductible for $37 a month. I think roadside service comes with that, but I'll have to verify that.
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" slime pump "...is that Fix-A-Flat?
Like Wayne said....it is a small 12V air pump that plugs into a cigarette lighter to pump up tires. Less than $20 at Wal-Mart. ;-T
(http://dr650.zenseeker.net/Tires/SlimePump.jpg)
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Norm: If you are an Auto Club (AAA) member, an additional $37/year will provide you with recreational vehicle and motorcycle towing. Provides up to four tows of up to 100 miles each per year.
MG-Cycle offers inexpensive screw-on emergency nipples for clutch and brake cables. These or a spare throttle "pull" cable and a clutch cable are handy take-alongs. Oh, don't discount the rain suit because it never rains here; Rain suits make dandy oversuits in case the temperature drops unexpectedly. I've used mine for that on more than a few occasions and was delighted at the improvement it made in my comfort.
Ralph
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The fine, fine woman who I'm fortunate enough to be loved by MADE me buy this bike.
The pilot's seat is a Russel Day-Long...I'm cool, 'nuff said.
The passenger seat is stock.
She had her first ride on it yesterday and she was diplomatic about needing to develop her motorcycle core muscles, etc, etc, but she made it clear - the stock passenger seat sucketh.
I figured that going in. The credit card is maxed and I'll probably have to sell blood or turn tricks, but the bike needs a new passenger seat.
I've been researching the threads / forum, and I've created a folder in my Favorites/Motorcycles/Seats, but I was hoping my new found brethren would take mercy on me and argue over what to do / I mean give me their counsel.
There are several well known names in differing parts of the country. Should I sell off my pilot's seat and get a two-up seat, or get her a separate Russel, or (insert name of multiple well known seat makers here)?
I know I'm new here, and I don't want to abuse my privileges, but all counsel appreciated.
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I'm not sure the rider seat will still be that comfy if you have to turn tricks. Sensations may change!
Never had a Bassa and I'm not going to try and discuss your lady's rear shape but there are a few inexpensive things you can try.
1. Ensure she dresses for comfort. Any underwear or lower layers need to be smooth and no hems or edges along the pressure points of the seat. Its amazing how much the rolled edge of underwear can dig in after a while.
2. Being Australian we used to use some sheepskin and make a seat cover. Warm in winter, cool in summer.
3. A friend has an Airhawk. Not that expensive. It took him a while to adjust the pressure to suit but now he loves it.
After that you are probably looking at going to a trimmers and having her saddle modified.
Enjoy
Rod
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Cheap?
Try taxi car wooden seat beads, 10$. They look stupid, but work well. Assuming the general shape of the seat is ok.
Sheep wool cover is great too, from Ikea about 20 bucks, or a nice custom made about $120, same thing, does not work if seat shape or width is wrong.
After those, new seat.
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Having had a bassa myself I fully understand the complaints of a wife with sore back side. My solution was to buy a Norge...gave me good excuse. I ran across the following a while back and thought it would have solved the problem for a lot less...
http://www.buttybuddy.com
I've haven't seen one in person so not sure how stable it is mounted. Good luck.
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Easy. Russell Day-Long on the front? Send them the pillion and have them make it match.
Also, You'll need a backrest, and really, you'll need better shocks on the back.
Get ready. $$$ !!!
Before you drop a lot of coin, make sure your SO actually wants to ride. I've seen many men spend lots of time and money chasing motorcycle comfort for wives/girlfriends who really just didn't want to ride.
P.S. I merged your three Bassa threads into one thread, for convenience and continuity.
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Extras include Swanee fairing, Harper's driving lights, Harper's floorboards, MG leather saddle bags, Power commander, Mistral header pipes with H-pipe crossover, Lafranconi performance exhaust, Center stand, Harper's highway pegs, Russel day-long custom seat, and an after market back trunk. and new speedometer.
Nice bike at a nice price. Love the pearl paint.
I am not a fan of the CO2 cartridges for tire inflation. Instead, I carry one of these:
(http://www.slime.com/shop/images/640/2009012717321931982_lrg.jpg)
(http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/2000x2000/200/2000428_2000x2000.jpg)
If you hard-wire an SAE plug to your battery, and run the lead outside of your seat, using the Slime air compressor for regular tire maintenance or roadside repairs is super easy.
For the passenger seat, it looks like Russell gets $125 to do the pillion. You're not going to find another solution for much less.
As for tires, the Tonti frame seems to prefer bias-ply type, so I would stick with a name brand bias-ply tire in the approved sizes. My EV came from the PO with Metzeler Marathon ME880's. They wear like iron... and ride like it, too. I cannot begin to tell you how glad I am that they are finally worn out. I've researched replacements, and I think I am going to get the Michelin Pilot Activ tires. They should offer a good compromise between wear and handling. The Pirelli Sport Demons would probably offer more stick, at the expense of faster wear, but from where I live I have to travel a lot of miles just to get to the twisty roads, so Michelin it will be. Another choice would be the Bridgestone BT45, but they get mixed reviews from Cali owners.
Remember that most if not all of these bias-ply tires come in tube and tubeless versions. Your Bassa's wire wheels should have the spokes through a flange on the outer edge, rather than through the center of the rim, which allows you to run tubeless tires. I could not tell from the photograph in the eBay ad whether you have tube-type or tubeless rims, though.
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Much thanks, [youcanrunnaked], for your input. I thought a Russell upgrade was going to run me $700 or so...I'll have to check that out.
Yeah, I've got the tubeless wheels. My first Guzzi back in the eighties had an old Michelin steel belted rock on it when I got it - It rode like a rock as well. I remember making the decision to run soft tires on it for the handling benefits with the tradeoff of changing the rear about every 5K miles it seemed.
I think they were Continental K-110 - not certain about that number.EDIT: K 112 - THAT'S the ticket...
I'm told that Metzler are good but the prices have gone up too high - Bridgestone Battlax is what has been recommended. Michelin Pilot Activ ? Pirelli Sport Demons?
I only plan to put 3 - 4 K miles a year on the bike, so if there is a great handling tire that is a favorite for the Bassa I've got no problems with cost...Of course, I'm broke and half hungover at the moment, so it's easy for me to say that.
The bike has some kind of adjustable shocks on the back - I'll have to figure out who made them and how I should treat them.
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Pirelli Sport Demons are great tires. At that mileage, you'll probably replace them once per year.
I really liked the Michelin Pilot Activ on my Bassa. At your estimated mileage, you'd replace them every two to three years.
Metzeller ME880 has been a big favorite for the touring crowd, but you'd have to replace them due to age because they last a long time. May as well get something stickier.
Bridgestone BT45 is also a big favorite for the Californias. Replacement every year or two, at your mileage rate.
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I thought a Russell upgrade was going to run me $700 or so...I'll have to check that out.
http://www.day-long.com/seat_prices.html
If you look at the price difference between solo and dual, it's pretty consistent at around $125. Maybe I am missing something, though.
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Pirelli Sport Demons are great tires.
Metzeller ME880 I thought they sucked! started cupping (and howling) with plenty of tread left, 2 sets. has been a big favorite for the touring crowd, but you'd have to replace them due to age because they last a long time. May as well get something stickier.
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I've had good luck with the 880s. I've on my 3rd set. I had one rear that was never quite right when new and even after that I drove it totally flat for 25 miles (don't ask) and ran another 5k miles with a plug in it. With that one exception, they handle good and last.
I'd say that I am a sport oriented rider. Not a racer but not a cruiser.
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Yeah, I remember riding that old steel belted Michelin flat, all you had to do was slow down and deal with the squirreliness, and you could do it all day if you wanted to. Not so much the Continentals, when those went flat you got off them as soon as you could.
I will try Pirelli's first and then when I have to pay for new tires after a short period of time I'll either pony up for more Pirellis because I like them or try the Bridgestone.
I've got a Bridgestone story.
Riding to Los Angeles and back with a friend of mine, me on the Guzzi and him on his chopped '57 Triumph. His gas tank sprung a leak.
He was pretty handy, my first motorcycle mentor. We found a closed service station near a hardware store where we bought some epoxy. He said "Norman, go dig in the station dumpster, and see if you can find me an old tire".
Smart ass that I am, I asked "Bias ply or radial?".
He said "Either will do, but I'd prefer bias ply".
I asked "What brand do you want?"
"Bridgestone..." he sneered.
I went around back and dug in the dumpster. Voila - one worn our bias ply Bridgestone. I really enjoyed delivering it to him.
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And I was thinking of you guys, and the great job you did of bringing me back into the fold, and I had to dredge up this thread.
I'm riding 250 miles a week commuting on what was intended to be a twice-a-month toy.
I cannot thank you enough...
:azn:
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And I was thinking of you guys, and the great job you did of bringing me back into the fold, and I had to dredge up this thread.
I'm riding 250 miles a week commuting on what was intended to be a twice-a-month toy.
I cannot thank you enough...
:azn:
Cash works well ...
Dusty
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And it's easier to ship than beer also...but I just spent my cash on beer...
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And it's easier to ship than beer also...but I just spent my cash on beer...
:boozing:
A backyard to camp in if I ever make it to San Diego will do just fine in the way of recompense . Well, that and maybe some home made guacamole :laugh:
Dusty
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Hell, let's start with you telling me about your Jack L. Chalker collection. My local library comes up blank.
I don't mind buying, especially based on how he checks out, but if there's a gap in your collection...
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Hell, let's start with you telling me about your Jack L. Chalker collection. My local library comes up blank.
I don't mind buying, especially based on how he checks out, but if there's a gap in your collection...
I have
Midnight at the well of souls
Quest for the well of souls
Exiles at the well of souls
The Return of Nathan Brazil
And Lilith , Cerberus , Charon , and Medusa , along with a couple of the Ring series which aren't as good IMO . Damn , I am a geek :rolleyes:
Dusty
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"Geeks" would be proud to be as cool as you are...stand by pending research.
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"Geeks" would be proud to be as cool as you are...stand by pending research.
I need to make a run thru our used bookstore , Chalker isn't easy to find in used paperback , folks tend to keep his books . He was an unusual duck , all he needed was a Guzzi to complete the image, although it seems there is a picture with him wearing red suspenders :laugh:
Dusty