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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: mjptexas on June 29, 2014, 10:08:47 AM
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I think I have my Cali 1400 the way I want for right now:
MG Sport Screen:
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Cali%201400%20June%202014/9E1B8945-78F7-47E3-B23A-A4F7C49AE75E_zpsf6fyhot5.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/mjptexas/media/Cali%201400%20June%202014/9E1B8945-78F7-47E3-B23A-A4F7C49AE75E_zpsf6fyhot5.jpg.html)
Agostini Carbon Fiber Fuel Injector Covers (replaced the metal ones that get a little hot):
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Cali%201400%20June%202014/B0E10542-0AF8-41BF-AFAA-3B5C2D4C8D6B_zpsksutuggm.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/mjptexas/media/Cali%201400%20June%202014/B0E10542-0AF8-41BF-AFAA-3B5C2D4C8D6B_zpsksutuggm.jpg.html)
Hepco-Becker Strayker Bags with C-Bow mounts:
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Cali%201400%20June%202014/69D22C54-714F-4ED1-B238-D45E7C6F7DB3_zps60txjgqf.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/mjptexas/media/Cali%201400%20June%202014/69D22C54-714F-4ED1-B238-D45E7C6F7DB3_zps60txjgqf.jpg.html)
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Cali%201400%20June%202014/7EB1FE7B-C38E-49CD-96F2-8CC27BA00F70_zpsugohiuts.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/mjptexas/media/Cali%201400%20June%202014/7EB1FE7B-C38E-49CD-96F2-8CC27BA00F70_zpsugohiuts.jpg.html)
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Cali%201400%20June%202014/499445F2-8F38-4F14-9EB6-B1791BCBFBD6_zpsoh6zprru.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/mjptexas/media/Cali%201400%20June%202014/499445F2-8F38-4F14-9EB6-B1791BCBFBD6_zpsoh6zprru.jpg.html)
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Cali%201400%20June%202014/BBFF23B6-8119-42A3-813A-7E2EE0B61A4E_zpsaw0d7dzh.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/mjptexas/media/Cali%201400%20June%202014/BBFF23B6-8119-42A3-813A-7E2EE0B61A4E_zpsaw0d7dzh.jpg.html)
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Cali%201400%20June%202014/5D3DA26A-EF9F-42A5-B070-440648944710_zpszrdbdhm4.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/mjptexas/media/Cali%201400%20June%202014/5D3DA26A-EF9F-42A5-B070-440648944710_zpszrdbdhm4.jpg.html)
May think about a Corbin seat sometime so the bike is more comfortable for my riding companion.
And maybe these:
http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=61571
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;-T Exactly as it should be! Personalization and it don't matter what we think. When it fits you and you like what you've done to it ,it rides much better!! Nice Bike! :bike
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The Stainless look pretty good too.
(http://www.mistralspecialparts.it/prodotti/immagine_003559_g.jpg)
Dean
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I believe you also have it the way I'd want it. Beautiful machine!
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Very nice, and thanks for the photos. Can you share a picture of the bike without the bags? I'd like to see what those brackets look like. If not convenient, no problem.
For what it's worth, I'm on the waiting list for the all-black "leather touring" seat from Moto Guzzi--I'll provide photos and comments when I get it. But it has to arrive in this hemisphere first...
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Nice bike ;-T Looks as though Austin is receiving ample rain fall . The old saw re th e seasons in that part of Texas must still be true . "Hot , followed by hot and wet " :D
Dusty
Actually, I tell people there are two seasons in Austin: Summer and January.
We are having one of those rare damp spring/summer. Doubt if it lasts much longer, but for now the countryside is a beautiful green.
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The bike looks great. The luggage looks retro.
I was just in the hill country and was surprised how green it was!
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How is the "cedar fever" this year ? I love Austin but my allergies don't .
Dusty
Cedar won't hit for a few months, but everything else is in full tilt. That's the downside of a green Central Texas.
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Nice looking set up. Do you notice a big difference with the heat shields? Gotta like those c bows and bags, thanks for sharing.
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And maybe these:
http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=61571
Nah. You "need" the carbon Mistrals:
(http://www.mgcycle.com/images/atrex/mg1400hrc.jpg)
http://www.mgcycle.com/product_info.php?products_id=3344&osCsid=22607a3dce06a52e910b9d46509132a0
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(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Cali%201400%20June%202014/BBFF23B6-8119-42A3-813A-7E2EE0B61A4E_zpsaw0d7dzh.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/mjptexas/media/Cali%201400%20June%202014/BBFF23B6-8119-42A3-813A-7E2EE0B61A4E_zpsaw0d7dzh.jpg.html)
I like the H+B bags, but it's a real shame about the 'tilt' built into the C-bow mount. Kind of messes with the long horizontal line of the Cal 14...
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I like the H+B bags, but it's a real shame about the 'tilt' built into the C-bow mount. Kind of messes with the long horizontal line of the Cal 14...
Wonder if there's a fix for that?
Dean
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Very nice, and thanks for the photos. Can you share a picture of the bike without the bags? I'd like to see what those brackets look like....
With the brackets off:
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Cali%201400%20June%202014/7F9F1139-F751-4B18-8071-9EE171AFC79F_zpspnx0woe2.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/mjptexas/media/Cali%201400%20June%202014/7F9F1139-F751-4B18-8071-9EE171AFC79F_zpspnx0woe2.jpg.html)
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Cali%201400%20June%202014/91DF2DF3-2E89-45E1-89CC-46947FBF4859_zpsgzc8gs8v.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/mjptexas/media/Cali%201400%20June%202014/91DF2DF3-2E89-45E1-89CC-46947FBF4859_zpsgzc8gs8v.jpg.html)
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Cali%201400%20June%202014/0BA0CAA4-13C0-48F6-B400-D6EDFF319751_zpshcjgesvs.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/mjptexas/media/Cali%201400%20June%202014/0BA0CAA4-13C0-48F6-B400-D6EDFF319751_zpshcjgesvs.jpg.html)
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I like it! Man I wish they had pegs though. :'(
Thanks for sharing.
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wow- she's nice. I'd like to hear a Cal 14 with pipes. Bet she's wicked eh- nudge, nudge, know what I mean?
;D
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Wonder if there's a fix for that?
Dean
looks almost like you could drill a new hole for the rear bolt to lower the rear..
NICE LOOKING BIKE, JAZZY!
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YES........I was just getting ready to say the same thing re: Exhaust!
FINE, FINE work it looks exactly like I would want mine. Was the windshield
purchased? If so where? It's PERFECT for your bike............... ..............
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Yup, looks great and probably how I would set mine up too!
That said, I think I might check how to level those c-bows, maybe an adapter to move/tilt one of the mounting points.
Still, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
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Bags look neat but left one seems to be hlf a mile away from bike in this shot or just trick of camera ?
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Cali%201400%20June%202014/499445F2-8F38-4F14-9EB6-B1791BCBFBD6_zpsoh6zprru.jpg)
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Nice looking set up. Do you notice a big difference with the heat shields? Gotta like those c bows and bags, thanks for sharing.
The shields do make a difference. The metal ones get hot enough you wouldn't want to touch them with a bare hand. The carbon fiber ones get warm but won't burn you.
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looks almost like you could drill a new hole for the rear bolt to lower the rear..
Unfortunately the way the C-Bows are made there really is no way to do that. The bolts screw into a cap welded to the back of the bow.
The mounts themselves are a very precise fit to the bike. (These guys really build quality stuff). It would take someone who is much more skilled than I am with a grinder, torch and welder to modify the angle.
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Unfortunately the way the C-Bows are made there really is no way to do that. The bolts screw into a cap welded to the back of the bow.
But could you pivot the whole assembly by extending or shortening the mounts themselves? I.E. pivot the bow and adjust how the bow mounts connect to the bike with extensions or adaptors.
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Looks Great!
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Bike looks great! Can you let us know where you bought your add on's? I'm thinking about the smaller top box for my next mod, followed by exhaust. Can anyone tell me who has changed exhaust, if a fuel manager is needed when you do swap out the factory for an aftermarket exhaust? Sorry to ask in your thread.
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The demo California Custom that I rode at Matthews Fun Machines had the Mistrals in matte black, db killers in. They sounded glorious.
I like what you've done with the bike. The bags are growing on me, but I wish the factory bags were quick-release.
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.....Was the windshield purchased? If so where? It's PERFECT for your bike............... ..............
Ordered on-line from AF1 Racing. It's the Moto Guzzi sport screen.
http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/default.asp
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But could you pivot the whole assembly by extending or shortening the mounts themselves? I.E. pivot the bow and adjust how the bow mounts connect to the bike with extensions or adaptors.
Modifying the mounts would require skills well beyond mine. Here's some detail mount pictures.
The top mounts bolt into existing threaded holes in the fender support frame.
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Cali%201400%20June%202014/DDDA9BE9-107E-471E-9CF1-9935E4C29B15_zps0tvxphmt.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/mjptexas/media/Cali%201400%20June%202014/DDDA9BE9-107E-471E-9CF1-9935E4C29B15_zps0tvxphmt.jpg.html)
The lower mount bolts to the exhaust hanger.
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Cali%201400%20June%202014/5C20B366-82B0-4B02-B8A3-3DEA0025CB7C_zps0yxtre4r.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/mjptexas/media/Cali%201400%20June%202014/5C20B366-82B0-4B02-B8A3-3DEA0025CB7C_zps0yxtre4r.jpg.html)
So the basic mount really can't be moved. You could theoretically cut the actual connection points off the mount and re-weld/replace them, but you have to do both sides because of this:
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Cali%201400%20June%202014/773720C1-2A7C-43EC-8FBA-50ED1618F561_zps8adpfuri.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/mjptexas/media/Cali%201400%20June%202014/773720C1-2A7C-43EC-8FBA-50ED1618F561_zps8adpfuri.jpg.html)
There are two mounting bolts at the back of the bow and two more at the front of the bow that attach the bow to the base frame so it's not a simple case changing one mounting bolt. Hepco-Becker did their homework on these things. They are really sturdy. I suspect you could almost wrap a tow rope around the C-Bows and pull a Harley Street Glide out of a road ditch.
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Thanks for those.
Ironically I was just reading the installation PDF that I'd downloaded from the HB site trying to figure that out.
Cut and re-weld would be neatest.
But I still wonder if you could make little extension brackets using aluminum stock - bolt one end of the extensions to the bike, other to the rack. Make the distances of each just enough to pivot the assembly level.
Might be tight around those fender mounts though, I'm guessing an extension might not work on the front one, you might have to modify the fender or bend the existing mount as it would be raised up by the pivoting of the rest. I really can't tell from the photos.
And depending on how little you need to rotate it, you might not actually have enough room to do it - the thickness of the bolts themselves being the minimum you could pivot it, and that might be too much angle.
So it would be back to cut and weld and might not be worth the effort at that point, cause they look decent enough as is.
Thanks again for taking the time and posting.
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It looks like from your pictures that there are only two mounting points for the frame. Is that correct? If it is, you could have the rear mounting point cut and rewelded to correct the angle.
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But I would wonder if you could make little extension brackets using aluminum stock - bolt one end of the extensions to the bike, other to the rack. Make the distances of each just enough to pivot the assembly level.
Might be tight around those fender mounts though. I really can't tell from the photos.
The frame fit to the bike is very precise - no real give anywhere. The directions are pretty sparse regarding how to mount. You cannot successfully mount the frame if you follow the exact steps. I spent about 30 minutes trying to mount them up following the steps before I gave up did what seemed intuitive. Took me 10 minutes mount the second side.
The only option I would see is to modify the angle of the brackets on the bags themselves, which could actually be done pretty easily. Unfortunately you would have to drill about 5 new holes in each bag, leaving you with holes you would have to fill - not an optimal solution.
Here is a picture of Lucian's bike. You can get these bags in all black. They actually look pretty good on the bike.
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Lucians%20Bike/Lucian4_zpsd09852e2.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/mjptexas/media/Lucians%20Bike/Lucian4_zpsd09852e2.jpg.html)
I thought about that as option, but didn't want something that big.
In reality, the angle on the Straykers is not nearly as offensive in person.
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It looks like from your pictures that there are only two mounting points for the frame. Is that correct? If it is, you could have the rear mounting point cut and rewelded to correct the angle.
You would have to cut both the front and the back so all four mounting points on the Bow would line up.
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I really like the Straykers - that's the exact bag I'd choose.
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Bags look neat but left one seems to be hlf a mile away from bike in this shot or just trick of camera ?
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Cali%201400%20June%202014/499445F2-8F38-4F14-9EB6-B1791BCBFBD6_zpsoh6zprru.jpg)
They do sit a ways away, but not that noticeable. Heres' the reason:
before adding the rack:
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Cali%201400%20June%202014/57BD0BB9-71A6-4ED5-8C9D-97E51EC46297_zpscnmikao2.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/mjptexas/media/Cali%201400%20June%202014/57BD0BB9-71A6-4ED5-8C9D-97E51EC46297_zpscnmikao2.jpg.html)
after adding the rack:
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y518/mjptexas/Cali%201400%20June%202014/72559D68-82CC-4D96-BC53-00681BB3FFD7_zpsb8lytvek.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/mjptexas/media/Cali%201400%20June%202014/72559D68-82CC-4D96-BC53-00681BB3FFD7_zpsb8lytvek.jpg.html)
The Hepco-Becker folks don't miss a thing. The C-Bow placement takes the width of their aftermarket rack into consideration.
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There are two options for the C-Bow racks on the V7 bikes. One that tilts for the Racer and Cafe with upswept pipes, and more horizontal mounts for the Classic/Stone/Special. I had to special order from the UK the latter for my Straykers. I know you 1400 guys only have the one option. They are well made.
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Many Thx it looks GREAT with your bike!
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Great Looking bike! Very well done. Good job.
Tony C
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Beautiful. Thinking about one a lot like that.
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
As for the bags, ..... All I can say is WOW! I would rather do without. If I ordered that set up, I would probably be trying to get my money back. If I was unsuccessful there I'm not sure what I'd do. Either throw them in the back corner of the garage never to see the light of day again or put them on the bike as a warning to others. I've seen better results from a 7th grader out back under the shade tree using a hack saw, coat hanger and a propane torch. But, as I said in the first line, ...
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That setup would look super duper in blue.....
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/court-dress_zpsir9jbgkd.jpg)
:wink:
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WOW this is a tough crowd. Kind of like asking if you had any children that lived.