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Title: Cheap pin socket?
Post by: Allflatblack on January 12, 2015, 08:44:59 PM: Hey guys, is there a cheap alternative to the $57 pin socket you need in order to remove the transmission input spline shaft nut? I can imagine grinding away an old socket to a four tooth pin socket, or welding hard rod to one. But maybe it is a waste of time? You would think that there was a source for this type of tool on the web, I see four slot nuts everywhere. I usually get away with a punch and hammer.
Title: Re: Cheap pin socket?
Post by: Waterbottle on January 13, 2015, 03:04:10 AM: Part of previous life I was a tool maker ( some would say , just a Tool😃) Can you post a pic of the nut your trying to remove ?
Title: Re: Cheap pin socket?
Post by: v7john on January 13, 2015, 04:44:18 AM: Do you mean like this/
(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab317/v7johnpics/DSCF0450.jpg) (http://s875.photobucket.com/user/v7johnpics/media/DSCF0450.jpg.html)

Spent a few minutes with an angle grinder. Has survived several uses.
Title: Re: Cheap pin socket?
Post by: dilligaf on January 13, 2015, 07:29:47 AM: This post isn't going to be of much help but I purchased mine and I know I didn't pay any $57.00. The problem is I don't know who I purchased it from. ::( :BEER:
Matt
Title: Re: Cheap pin socket?
Post by: Johncolleary on January 13, 2015, 07:37:27 AM: I believe guzzitech has it for 37.00. go to Guzzi Tech under other bits and see if it's the tool you are looking for.
Title: Re: Cheap pin socket?
Post by: Hahnda on January 13, 2015, 07:51:46 AM: (http://product-images.highwire.com/9897331/img1243.jpg)

http://scramblercycle.highwire.com/product/moto-guzzi-crankshaft-final-drive-clutch-hub-transmission-ring-nut-tool
Title: Re: Cheap pin socket?
Post by: Allflatblack on January 13, 2015, 09:33:43 AM: Yeah!!!
Title: Re: Cheap pin socket?
Post by: Allflatblack on January 13, 2015, 10:54:18 AM: The problem with making things myself is that I do a great job, and four hours later I have my tool and saved $30, but could have made $160 in that time. Trying to wean myself off the old farmer way of thinking that I was raised on. Now if I owned a nice little milling machine....
Title: Re: Cheap pin socket?
Post by: dilligaf on January 13, 2015, 11:05:47 AM: Steve makes stuff like that.
stephen.brenton@gmail.com
:BEER:
Matt
Title: Re: Cheap pin socket?
Post by: Waterbottle on January 13, 2015, 02:22:11 PM: Yes some good tools there. Even at $57 , that's very cheap, just buy one ;-T
Title: Re: Cheap pin socket?
Post by: bigbikerrick on January 13, 2015, 02:46:26 PM: Kevin, that Scrambler cycle tool looks like a nice addition to the toolbox. It looks like you turn it by sticking a rod in the hole, correct? Isnt there instances where you need to use a torque wrench to properly tighten those fasteners, during engine/tranny assembly?
Thanks Rich.

PS. I spent some time browsing your website, and I must say ,Im impressed with the quantity of Guzzi parts you carry, and your prices are good. Its nice to have an additional source for parts, and competition is good for the consumer, as it helps keep prices in check. I try to spread my business around to all of the "usual suspects", that way I support all the different folks helping keep our passion alive.

Good Job, on your user friendly, easy to use website! ;-T
Rick.
Title: Re: Cheap pin socket?
Post by: Hahnda on January 13, 2015, 03:07:44 PM: Yes you just stick round tommy bar of some sort into the hole.

Couple of options I guess as far as torque. Some spec these nuts that you torque them till you fart (http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=70690.30), others try to hit the spec. If one wanted to you could cut the tool shown above in half and weld suitable sized cut down socket inside. I would not use an impact gun for removal or installation though. Not that these tools are fragile but they are pretty exact and have a tight fit. A rattle gun might compromise that a bit. What I like about the tool is that it is 2 tools in one for the 2 different size ring nuts.

As of today am I now out of stock of this tool and they are backordered from supplier.

Yes we have added many Guzzi parts to our online store. Mostly items for the earlier twins.
Title: Re: Cheap pin socket?
Post by: Allflatblack on January 13, 2015, 05:31:51 PM: I ordered the two in one tool from scrambler, will report back.
Title: Re: Cheap pin socket?
Post by: Allflatblack on January 19, 2015, 08:04:47 AM: Bought and used the socket three times. Once to install the new deep spline input shaft and then to take it off to use the shaft as a clutch alignment tool, then to reinstall the input shaft. Works well, but with a tendency to rock and bend the tangs.
Title: Re: Cheap pin socket?
Post by: Wayne Orwig on January 19, 2015, 08:09:30 AM: Quote from: Allflatblack on January 19, 2015, 08:04:47 AM
but with a tendency to rock and bend the tangs.

Which is why I use a punch to get off the old nut, then replace it with a more normal nut like the output shaft. No need for the odd nut.
Title: Re: Cheap pin socket?
Post by: ridingron on January 19, 2015, 12:29:18 PM: Quote
Which is why I use a punch to get off the old nut, then replace it with a more normal nut like the output shaft. No need for the odd nut.

What is the point of using a special nut? Why not a regular hex or maybe a nyloc nut.
Title: Re: Cheap pin socket?
Post by: Allflatblack on January 20, 2015, 07:53:24 AM: I'm surprised that a normal but would fit. The clearance between the outside of the but and the inside of the sprockets is super tight