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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: bpreynolds on January 15, 2015, 02:03:25 PM
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So after a good buddy of mine and his wife had their home broken into for the third time in 2 years - he lives only about a mile away from us albeit in a much more crime prone area - I've decided to check into sucurity systems/subscriptions. The last break in at my friend's house (1 week ago) was especially concerning because the guy hid in the house and stayed there even after police thought they had cleared it. My friend found the guy in a stowed area of the house and held him at gunpoint until the police arrived. So anyhow, my wife is probably more concerned about this than I am but figured I'd ask here if anyone else uses a security system or subscription service and could recommend?
We have a Honeywell system that came with the house when we bought it last year, installed and monitored then by ADT but we did not renew the subscription. We also have a yapper who screams at everybody who gets within 20 yards of the place, not that this latter is any sort of real deterrence but a lot of the crime around these parts, including my friend's house, is opportunistic crime. They get off the bus line or step out of their cohorts car and look for an empty afternoon house that would be easy to get into - if one has a yapper they more often choose the house next door that doesn't. But that's just the opportunistic ones.
I called ADT and Mid-America and listened to an extraordinary and surprising amount b.s. spiel from each, total and complete salesmen that made my stomach turn mainly. I just can't imagine in this day and age there aren't stand alone wireless systems that would notify authorities and/or me and my wife if they were breached. But oh well.
So what do you guys have, if anything, and/or what would you recommend?
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See the following thread?
http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=74077.0
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I would suggest a visit to the local police station, chat up the local chief on response time. Could be that even if ADT (Whatever) call them, they take 10 minutes to get to your place and usually I suspect the thieves are gone in 5. You are however justified in the situation as described when the burg hides in the house, that could turn serious. Compare the insurance costs with and without alarm systems, you might break even. Best of luck, I reply on nosey neighbors as only the cars seem to get hit very often. second the dog idea, and I apologize as I do not remember if that cutie who wandered in is still with you.
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I just can't imagine in this day and age there aren't stand alone wireless systems that would notify authorities and/or me and my wife if they were breached.
There's bound to be something like that. I don't know the best way to find one that doesn't involve a fanatical commission salesman, though.
I'll be interested in seeing the results. I was on jury duty last week, and its shocking how much predatory human garbage there is, these days, walking the streets and riding the roads. Your friend did well by "holding the man at gunpoint till the police arrived." The law here doesn't require me to take that risk, and I probably wouldn't have ...
Lannis
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See the following thread?
http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=74077.0
LOL. An additional but bigger dog might be the answer, heh. I been wanting a big coon hound anyhow. Take me back to my roots. I'm thinking Black and Tan or, likely, Redbone :BEER:
There's bound to be something like that. I don't know the best way to find one that doesn't involve a fanatical commission salesman, though.
I'll be interested in seeing the results. I was on jury duty last week, and its shocking how much predatory human garbage there is, these days, walking the streets and riding the roads. Your friend did well by "holding the man at gunpoint till the police arrived." The law here doesn't require me to take that risk, and I probably wouldn't have ...
Lannis
Heh. I told him he was my hero for the week. I have begun referring to him as Chuck Norris but he doesn't laugh too much when I do ;-T ;D
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Burglers tell their cell mates about your house.
Address, etc.
And they may wait about 6 months till all the stolen stuff has been replaced with new stuff (insurance).
Cell mates know where to go for that nice new stuff.
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Burglers tell their cell mates about your house.
Address, etc.
And they may wait about 6 months till all the stolen stuff has been replaced with new stuff (insurance).
Cell mates know where to go for that nice new stuff
Happened to my Brother. Second break in almost exactly 6 months from first. Police told him it was pretty common.
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A well trained Rhodesian ridgeback could help a lot. and if anyone tries to break in you won't have to feed him for a couple of days.
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There's bound to be something like that. I don't know the best way to find one that doesn't involve a fanatical commission salesman, though.
I'll be interested in seeing the results. I was on jury duty last week, and its shocking how much predatory human garbage there is, these days, walking the streets and riding the roads. Your friend did well by "holding the man at gunpoint till the police arrived." The law here doesn't require me to take that risk, and I probably wouldn't have ...
Lannis
So you would put the guy down? Hmmm... I do know one thing, the police can't protect you from unlawful entry,robbery or any other similar crime as it occurs..You need to be proactive...
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So you would put the guy down? Hmmm... I do know one thing, the police can't protect you from unlawful entry,robbery or any other similar crime as it occurs..You need to be proactive...
What am I going to do, if I come to my house that is 1/2 mile from the road and locked up, I come in with my wife and/or granddaughters, and there's a guy IN MY HOUSE hiding in a closet or behind a door?
"Excuse me sir, are you a dangerous guy? Do you have a weapon or gun? Is it your plan to kill me or mine, or steal my stuff, or are you kind of like, innocent maybe? Can you show me some ID or give me a reference, please?"
Not. And the sheriff, prosecutor, and judge will shake my hand after.
Lannis
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Reinforce all doorways with steel surrounds and all exterior doors should be metal clad. Kick in is the preferred quick entry method. American Security Systems sells the kits through Lowe's. The premium level takes some skill and tools but you should be able to install in a couple of hours. Wireless monitoring is available but all the perps need is a jammer.
As for the hold at gunpoint thing, CorBon Powerball .45 ACP or 12G will be used before calling the cops.
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I have just the alarm signs I got from an installer in the front and back.I haven't been broken into yet but it might have something to do with the nosy old lady neighbor who sits on her porch smoking and looking at my house all day.
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My trick for avoiding that stuff is to not have anything worth stealing. 8) <---- case in point: cheap sunglasses
Even so I have twice held bad guys for the Sitka cops. The first one wasn't hard -- I had a bat and he had a debilitating headache. The second time I had my .44. It was easy to convince the guy to call 911, explain why he was calling (I helped him), and ask if they would please drop by and arrest him before he got into any more trouble.
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Fk!!! Sorry for all you who have to consider any of the above options. I really can't fathom having to live in an environment like that. So totally foreign.
We had a local woman killed by a grizzly that broke through their front picture window. And a bicyclist chased by a wolf until a car steered the animal off the rack. But those are bizarre once off's .... to be broken into twice in a year? So, so sorry for you folks. We do have crime up here... just nothing like that.
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I would suggest a visit to the local police station, chat up the local chief on response time. Could be that even if ADT (Whatever) call them, they take 10 minutes to get to your place and usually I suspect the thieves are gone in 5. You are however justified in the situation as described when the burg hides in the house, that could turn serious. Compare the insurance costs with and without alarm systems, you might break even. Best of luck, I reply on nosey neighbors as only the cars seem to get hit very often. second the dog idea, and I apologize as I do not remember if that cutie who wandered in is still with you.
when seconds count the police will be there in minutes
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Fk!!! Sorry for all you who have to consider any of the above options. I really can't fathom having to live in an environment like that. So totally foreign.
We had a local woman killed by a grizzly that broke through their front picture window. And a bicyclist chased by a wolf until a car steered the animal off the rack. But those are bizarre once off's .... to be broken into twice in a year? So, so sorry for you folks. We do have crime up here... just nothing like that.
Well, this IS a thread not only to discuss what has happened but what MIGHT happen.
In the last 50 years, neither me nor my parents nor any of my brothers or sisters or children have ever had their house broken in to, not even once. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't talk about insurance.
I live in a very low-crime place. I suspect that most of the people who have been broken into more than once live in or around cities. And if you think THAT'S bad, just check out the burglary, break-in, home-invasion, and property crime rates in the UK. The criminals there know that no one is armed .....
Lannis
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Lannis , I can find no evidence that would suggest that is true .
Dusty
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Lannis , I can find no evidence that would suggest that is true .
Dusty
I'm not going to try to convince you (or anyone). If I produce statistics or data, then the source of the data will be questioned. If I produce personal experience from my many friends in the UK, then it will just be "anecdotal" data.
So (like me and everyone else), believe what you like. It doesn't really matter, just something to think about.
Lannis
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I'm not going to try to convince you (or anyone). If I produce statistics or data, then the source of the data will be questioned. If I produce personal experience from my many friends in the UK, then it will just be "anecdotal" data.
So (like me and everyone else), believe what you like. It doesn't really matter, just something to think about.
Lannis
That is the lamest defense of unsubstantiated bullshit I ever heard.
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That is the lamest defense of unsubstantiated bullshit I ever heard.
Thanks. I strive for superlatives in all that I do. Watch out for the "Negativity", though, I hear there's a lot of it about.
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I'm not going to try to convince you (or anyone). If I produce statistics or data, then the source of the data will be questioned. If I produce personal experience from my many friends in the UK, then it will just be "anecdotal" data.
So (like me and everyone else), believe what you like. It doesn't really matter, just something to think about.
Lannis
:+1
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My friends take on the matter.
Being a cheap guy and with the economy still in the toilet, I have been thinking about ways to cut back on expenses. One thing I thought of was my home alarm system!
I've disconnected it, and de-registered from the Neighborhood Watch. I now have two flags of Osama Bin Laden raised in the front yard, one at each corner, and the black flag of ISIS in the center hanging from my tree.
The local police, sheriff, FBI, CIA, NSA, Homeland Security, Secret Service and other agencies are all watching the house 24/7. I've never felt safer! And I’m saving $49.95 a month!
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I like that one.
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I'm not going to try to convince you (or anyone). If I produce statistics or data, then the source of the data will be questioned. If I produce personal experience from my many friends in the UK, then it will just be "anecdotal" data.
So (like me and everyone else), believe what you like. It doesn't really matter, just something to think about.
Lannis
It does really matter. The spread of mis information leads to ever increasing wrongness! If there are legitimate statistics, then they should not be in question. Can we agree that official numbers produced by the United Kingdoms government are real; If not, then we have a much bigger problem. That being said, I hope that is not the case. I would like to see the numbers. Even then, one has to remember there are many countries around the world with relatively few people owning guns, yet crime of the type we are talking about here is lower than it is in the USA, how can this be?
There are lots of factors that play in to how likely crime is in one area or another, it can't be summed up to a bumper sticker.
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Fellas. I do enjoy the banter. I do. Would I be on here if I didn't? No way. However. Would it be too much to ask for a glorious and unheralded return to my original question of advice and/or info on alarm systems/services? :BEER:
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Yes , no , maybe ??? What was the original question Bip ? ::) Oh yeah , what oil to use for cooking bad guys ;D
Sorry for that :-[ Check for local security companies , they seem to do the best job .
Dusty
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Dusty, I hear Lannis has a million unclaimed dollars hidden in his basement. I'll drive ya over there, drop ya off, and speed the getaway. All you gotta do is sneak in and get it. What time?
;) ;D
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Sorry, my experience has been limited to troubleshooting commercial security systems that habitually send in false alarms to the cop shop. The cops give you the first one or two, and then they start fining the business for false reporting. After a few more they stop responding to calls until you report in that it's fixed. At that point you might as well have the stickers in the window and nothing installed. The credit union across the lake alarms whenever a big, rumbly vehicle goes by. The audible bell and rotating red light continue for most of the wee hours on account of, like a car alarm, nobody reacts anymore.
The problem behind the scenario is that the systems are installed and maintained by the security company. If they screw up the installation or a component goes bad they have an obligation to respond to the problem. I get involved when the security company doesn't meet that obligation in a timely manner, which is a puzzlingly frequent thing.
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Sorry, my experience has been limited to troubleshooting commercial security systems that habitually send in false alarms to the cop shop. The cops give you the first one or two, and then they start fining the business for false reporting. After a few more they stop responding to calls until you report in that it's fixed. At that point you might as well have the stickers in the window and nothing installed. The credit union across the lake alarms whenever a big, rumbly vehicle goes by. The audible bell and rotating red light continue for most of the wee hours on account of, like a car alarm, nobody reacts anymore.
The problem behind the scenario is that the systems are installed and maintained by the security company. If they screw up the installation or a component goes bad they have an obligation to respond to the problem. I get involved when the security company doesn't meet that obligation in a timely manner, which is a puzzlingly frequent thing.
To me, this is yet another reason for a good stand alone system that you set up and would only notify you and/or other family members when something occurs. Then you can be the judge of whether to call the cops or not if you are notified. The minutes lost between alarm to you to police rather than a system that just immediately calls the police, I think, would more than be made up by the personal plea you make to the department other than just "another" false security notification.
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We have an ADT system in our home. We've gotten numerous calls, all false alarms thanks to our adventurous cat. They call...wife first...if no answer then me....if no answer then the cops. I would just as soon have the alarm system call me and save the $600 a year for the service.
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Dusty, I hear Lannis has a million unclaimed dollars hidden in his basement. I'll drive ya over there, drop ya off, and speed the getaway. All you gotta do is sneak in and get it. What time?
;) ;D
Reminds me of the old Charlie Daniels song:
"Well, he's a friend of them long-haired, hippie-type pinko fags
And I'll bet you he's even got a Commie flag
Tacked up on the wall inside of his garage
He's a snake in the grass, I'll tell you guys
He may look dumb, but that's just a disguise
He's a mastermind in the ways of espionage
They all started lookin' real suspicious at him
And he jumped up and said, "Now, just wait a minute, Jim
You know he's lyin', I've been livin' here all of my life
I'm a faithful follower of Brother John Birch
And I belong to the Antioch Baptist Church
And I ain't even got a garage, you can call home and ask my wife"
.... I ain't even got a basement, you can call home and ask MY wife!!
Lannis
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Sorry for that :-[ Check for local security companies , they seem to do the best job .
Dusty
I'm normally much in favor of "local companies" for doing business, but the only "local" one here is ADT. They seem to have a franchised "lock" on the Home Security business here.
I do know our local sheriff - I'll ask him if there's an effective one that's easy for the Sheriff's Department to work with and respond to here.
Lannis
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My home security system.
(http://www.windridgefarms.com/Copy_of_Hawk-2006-1.jpg)
Used and bred by Louisiana State prisons as guard, convict "fetch" dogs.
Also good for Bear Hunt'n & Boar Hunt'n.
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My home security system.
(http://www.windridgefarms.com/Copy_of_Hawk-2006-1.jpg)
Used and bred by Louisiana State prisons as guard, convict "fetch" dogs.
Also good for Bear Hunt'n & Boar Hunt'n.
So... how does he do with California escapees ;D Good looking dog ;-T
Dusty
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That dog is right purdy as they would say in my birthplace of Appalachia.
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Damn, that IS a fine looker!
Whatever the system, it can be defeated in time. Sometimes simple, sometimes not. A friend has Ridgebacks trained not to take food from any one else because local perps tossed poisoned meat over the fence. Jammers will block the wireless. Hell, ADT called me for an alarm at my parent's place. And they asked me if I wanted the police to respond. WTF?? Hell yes. I arrived there first and cleared the property before the police showed up. (Dad accidently set it off before leaving and guess what-the klaxon never went off) I live in a city with mostly petit home invasions-old folks with prescriptions, big screens and the like. Yes, I can replace stuff but if I catch you here I might not be as accommodating as RK.
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What am I going to do, if I come to my house that is 1/2 mile from the road and locked up, I come in with my wife and/or granddaughters, and there's a guy IN MY HOUSE hiding in a closet or behind a door?
"Excuse me sir, are you a dangerous guy? Do you have a weapon or gun? Is it your plan to kill me or mine, or steal my stuff, or are you kind of like, innocent maybe? Can you show me some ID or give me a reference, please?"
Not. And the sheriff, prosecutor, and judge will shake my hand after.
Lannis
I wasn't saying to do anything less than taking immediate action..Just thinking about it.. Hmmmm...
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ADT, I have it at work and it is very reliable. Every now and then a false alarm, but, 95% of those are due to outages of the internet connection, not the alarm system. That's been in place for over 5 years now.
Kids have ADT also, after having their home broken into twice in one year. They have only had one false alarm in two years.
We live out of town. Security doors all around, but, not bars on windows. I set up my computer with a monitor program and it uses the camera to check. When it detects motion it runs the camera and sends me an email. It kinda works, but, I'd like to try the system that Lowes has so I can monitor more than just the entry room.
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What am I going to do, if I come to my house that is 1/2 mile from the road and locked up, I come in with my wife and/or granddaughters, and there's a guy IN MY HOUSE hiding in a closet or behind a door?
"Excuse me sir, are you a dangerous guy? Do you have a weapon or gun? Is it your plan to kill me or mine, or steal my stuff, or are you kind of like, innocent maybe? Can you show me some ID or give me a reference, please?"
Not. And the sheriff, prosecutor, and judge will shake my hand after.
Lannis
For shooting an unarmed guy who is hiding and not attacking you? Not sure I would Lannis.
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Cook in oil?
Oh, boy, oil thread!
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That dog is right purdy as they would say in my birthplace of Appalachia.
Didn't you play a banjo in "Deliverance"?
Ralph
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Dorcia's kid has one that he installed himself in SoCal. He can arm or disarm it with his phone. It'll send him a message if there's a break in. Is that what you are looking for? If so, I'll ask for particulars.
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For shooting an unarmed guy who is hiding and not attacking you? Not sure I would Lannis.
I agree but I believe Lannis is saying there's no time to make a decision ....But suppose it's a neighbor's kid...There's no for sure answer unless it happens...Many years ago I lived in a rough city neighborhood. Ground level apartment in a large house. I was napping when a noise woke me up, like a person . I burst into the main room and found a guy near the entry door.."WHO the F are You"!!! He ran out and down the road like his ass was on fire...I was unarmed...
We don't lock out doors during the day unless plans are to be gone all day. I would move if a security system and or carrying a firearm was a necessity for survival.
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We don't lock out doors during the day unless plans are to be gone all day. I would move if a security system and or carrying a firearm was a necessity for survival.
Same here. And you're right, just because someone is a "neighbor's kid" doesn't mean he's not there to kill you.
Security systems and firearms are simply insurance to protect against an extremely low probability, extremely high consequence event.
Like fire insurance. I've paid $40,000 in fire insurance for my house over the years, even though I nor none of my family have ever had their house burn down. Do most people carry fire insurance too? Most people do, and they spend WAY more on that insurance than I do on arms and ammo for something that has never happened and is not likely to happen.
Lannis
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I agree but I believe Lannis is saying there's no time to make a decision ....But suppose it's a neighbor's kid...There's no for sure answer unless it happens...Many years ago I lived in a rough city neighborhood. Ground level apartment in a large house. I was napping when a noise woke me up, like a person . I burst into the main room and found a guy near the entry door.."WHO the F are You"!!! He ran out and down the road like his ass was on fire...I was unarmed...
We don't lock out doors during the day unless plans are to be gone all day. I would move if a security system and or carrying a firearm was a necessity for survival.
That's certainly how I read what Lannis wrote.
Such moments are not of the contemplative type, where one examines at leisure the various possibilities or admires the numerous facets. They are, instead, time for more primal responses: fight or flight.
The law in most places in the U.S. does not require flight, nor does, IMO, common sense or good judgment.
An intruder in one's home is presumptively dangerous. And, why should you rationally assume -- and recall that this is likely not a moment for rational thought, but for reaction of the appropriate save-your-life sort -- that this intruder (even if the neighbor's kid) is alone or unarmed? I would not.
In rural Frederick County, Virginia, the local authorities would probably react as Lannis said of his.
Now, lest you infer that I live in an area where such is likely or that I am itching for a chance to perforate some deserving perp's body, consider this.
We moved here a couple of years ago from downtown Atlanta. The contrast between that crime-filled place and Cross Junction, Virginia, is nigh to impossible to describe. Bustling and edgy to bucolic and easy.
At our request, the local sheriff sent a deputy to visit with us and discuss local security issues. He arrived after following me in an unmarked car for about five miles; I was doing 75 mph up U.S. 522 and, when he followed me into the gate, I nearly hurled, but he never said a word about it. Guess we both had been worried we were going to be late for that appointment. ;)
Anyway, having come from Atlanta, we were understandably concerned about what issues might be of concern here. After some unhurried small talk, I got to my core concern: home invasions. After all, while worrisome and maddening, "mere" break-ins while absent and such do not threaten life.
I asked him when the last such had occurred. He paused, thought about it, and responded: "Outside of some bad spots in Winchester itself, hum ... 30 - 35 years ago, mebbe." :o
When I said that I would be in Illinois for the next year and Kathi alone, he said that if anyone unknown came to the door, Kathi should go to it with one of our weapons openly held. Said that would "talk anyone with a questionable 'lost dog' story into looking elsewhere." ;)
Now, though we do have a serious, well-planned security system, with all sorts of bells and whistles, I sometimes think that the huge doghouse -- left by the previous owner and my oversize flip-flops on the front porch -- read about that once :D -- are the best passive deterrents we have to any crime-bent thugs or thugettes. But we shall see.
If anyone does get past the threshold while we are home, there likely won't be time or inclination for any Miranda warnings. My time in the prosecution function makes me know -- sadly but that's just the way it is -- that there are bad people out there. I have no intention of sacrificing Kathi's life, mine, or those of guests, or grandbabies to Woodstockian views of lions and lambs lying together or the sort who put COEXIST bumperstickers on their cars. Sweet, but painfully naive. Put bluntly, prey. ::)
Finally, after all of that chatter about crime and my concern when away, the reality here is I that I am way more concerned about frozen pipes, etc.., while we are gone for more than a day than with any human damage. So, while I considered remote-access CATV, I decided that might be useful -- if recorded -- to catch crooks, there was no real-time benefit in terms of stopping something. Besides, given the "threat" or its lack, I am looking into getting a web-based thermostat that allows me to monitor the house temps and change settings on my cellphone.
Whew, shows you what coffee (and Kathi being occupied elsewhere) will do for making a longwinded post. ;D
Sorry.
Bill
P.S. In the one instance where we had an alarm sound while we were away, the sheriff arrived almost instantly. Sure, the patrol happened to be running radar two miles down 522, but that's mighty fine response for a large rural county.
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Didn't you play a banjo in "Deliverance"?
Ralph
Funny you should ask. I always tell folks that I am very serious when I say I am from an area where we were kinda rooting for the blue people in the movie. Reynolds - a great name, btw - totally redeemed himself in the area, however, with the Bandit movies.
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No matter what your alarm system, a pro will defeat it easily. Fortunately, there are very few pros, most are just dirtbags looking for an easy score. An alarm system will deter them.
We had an alarm system that was hard wired to the telephone line. I never told Dorcia, but I knew that if I was going to break in, I'd just cut the phone line, then knock that annoying alarm off the wall. One night, about 2 am the alarm started screaming, and I was instantly awake, and had my 44 ready to go. It was like someone mainlined about 10cc of adrenaline. ;D I'd always wondered what would happen in that scenario, and I found out. If there had been someone in the house, I would have asked questions later. Couldn't sleep the rest of the night.
There had been a car take out the telephone line, and that's what set the alarm off...
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Like fire insurance. I've paid $40,000 in fire insurance for my house over the years, even though I nor none of my family have ever had their house burn down. Do most people carry fire insurance too? Most people do, and they spend WAY more on that insurance than I do on arms and ammo for something that has never happened and is not likely to happen.
Lannis
Fire insurance is for monetary reimbursement for a loss...A weapon is to protect you and or family from bodily harm.. Insurance won't prevent a occurrence...But a weapon including properly used feet and hands can be preventive. I don't advocate using lethal force against unarmed burglars but I do believe they should be kicked,punched,pistol whipped,dragged,flogged and otherwise caused enough pain to remember the situation.
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Fire insurance is for monetary reimbursement for a loss...A weapon is to protect you and or family from bodily harm.. Insurance won't prevent a occurrence...But a weapon including properly used feet and hands can be preventive. I don't advocate using lethal force against unarmed burglars but I do believe they should be kicked,punched,pistol whipped,dragged,flogged and otherwise caused enough pain to remember the situation.
How do you *know* they are unarmed? I personally wouldn't chance it.
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My security system is big and black, weighs 95 pounds and has big white fangs.
Had an ADT salesman come to the door at our house in Florida when we lived down there. The Golden Retriever we had then didn't like strangers, the guy said "I guess you don't need my services".
Dean
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In answer to the OP
Homeboy.com (disclaimer - the company I work for designed this product)
more at http://www.cnet.com/news/security-camera-roundup/
No idea if any of them are suitable.
Steve
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I would not rely on dogs, and we have owned a few. They are good for alerting us to someone around the house, but, that's about it. If we are not home the dog is no deterrent to a thief.
Daughter and husband have two, a jack russell type and a doberman mix. Both go rabid when the mailman or anyone else comes to the door. They were broken into twice. The dogs were shut in the closet when they got home. No blood anywhere.
But, if you have a dog that is known to bite people and is big enough, that might be enough, but, most are not. Bark and growl does not equate to a 'guard dog' and most criminals, even the stupid ones, know that. Most dogs have to be trained to be aggressive like that. If any doubt then take your dog to a good trainer and have them tested or trained. Beware, this can have legal consequences if your dog ends up biting someone.
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Olive, from Italy!
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In answer to the OP
Homeboy.com (disclaimer - the company I work for designed this product)
more at http://www.cnet.com/news/security-camera-roundup/
No idea if any of them are suitable.
Steve
Think this system would be best. May or may not prevent break-in, but most likely will capture pic of intruder. Would also have hidden motion-activated nanny cam indoors for additional coverage.
Even with hoodie/mask, police may know who the perp may be due to build/height etc.
Haven't had any burglary issues in my neck of the woods so far except for a couple of car stereo thefts 15-20 years ago. High-five to the Bellevue PD! P:) They also sent me my new CWP in 4-days(year past due) so I celebrated by buying a new S&W M&P 9mm Bodyguard! ;-T
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I would not rely on dogs, and we have owned a few. They are good for alerting us to someone around the house, but, that's about it. If we are not home the dog is no deterrent to a thief.
Daughter and husband have two, a jack russell type and a doberman mix. Both go rabid when the mailman or anyone else comes to the door. They were broken into twice. The dogs were shut in the closet when they got home. No blood anywhere.
But, if you have a dog that is known to bite people and is big enough, that might be enough, but, most are not. Bark and growl does not equate to a 'guard dog' and most criminals, even the stupid ones, know that. Most dogs have to be trained to be aggressive like that. If any doubt then take your dog to a good trainer and have them tested or trained. Beware, this can have legal consequences if your dog ends up biting someone.
Yes and no, I think. In these parts and as evidenced by my original post, the vast majority of burglaries in my area are in the afternoon and opportunistic ones. Guys get off the busline or out of their buddy's car and just start walking, looking for the most unobtrusive entry they can find. I think even a yapper makes some degree of difference in the decision they make as to which house. This being said, if they are completely drugged and/or looking specifically at your place for some reason, yeah, dogs or no dogs are not gonna stop them per se.