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Title: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: M0T0Geezer on January 15, 2015, 04:08:28 PM
I am going to do my level  best to attend the 2015 Rolling Thunder Memorial Day in Wasington DC.
May 24th
More info here:

http://tinyurl.com/nffoou3

C'mon Guzzistas and Distinguished Gentelmen, put your arses and your Guzzis on the road to honor our Vets and let the entire world know that somone still cares.

Who's up for this?
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on January 15, 2015, 04:32:21 PM
No thanks. I'll be where there's almost no traffic, much less noise and far fewer people that weekend (Cass, WV).

There are ways of honoring our veterans without dealing with herds of Hogs or going anywhere near Washington, D.C...   
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: wrbix on January 15, 2015, 06:15:20 PM
Just another excuse for that sort of "rider" to make noise, IMHO.
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Lannis on January 15, 2015, 06:44:50 PM
I am going to do my level  best to attend the 2015 Rolling Thunder Memorial Day in Wasington DC.
May 24th
More info here:

http://tinyurl.com/nffoou3

C'mon Guzzistas and Distinguished Gentelmen, put your arses and your Guzzis on the road to honor our Vets and let the entire world know that somone still cares.

Who's up for this?

I have to say that I'm with the other guys.   I honor our veterans as much as anyone can, and I DO care.    But I'm done with anything having to do with motorcycles that has "Rumbling", "Roaring", or "Thunder" in the name.  It gives us all a bad name, and perpetuates a stereotype that I'm not part of.   

I ride my Guzzi on US29 on that day each year, up to Culpeper National Cemetery to decorate my parents' graves (My Dad was a sailor from 1945 - 1965).   But there's no way I want to ride with that LOUD obnoxious crowd up to Washington to sit in a crowd of people blipping their throttles.

Sorry.

Lannis
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: GearheadGrrrl on January 15, 2015, 07:55:21 PM
I often spend Memorial Day, and often the whole weekend, riding to my fathers (WW2) and great great grandfathers (civil war) grave sites in Fort Snelling, MN and Whitehall, WI.
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Waltr on January 15, 2015, 08:23:20 PM
  Lived in the area all my life and never even dreamed of doing that ride, even when I had a Harley. 


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Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: oldbike54 on January 15, 2015, 08:36:33 PM
Goodness fellas , rain on the Geezers parade why don't we . Go for it Geez .

  Dusty
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Waltr on January 15, 2015, 08:55:00 PM
  Your right Dusty, Me bad.  MotoGeezer come on back and we will play nice. 
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Demar on January 15, 2015, 09:41:32 PM
No thanks. I'll be where there's almost no traffic, much less noise and far fewer people that weekend (Cass, WV).

There are ways of honoring our veterans without dealing with herds of Hogs or going anywhere near Washington, D.C...   

I love the steam railroad in Cass. I've only been once but I hope to go again.
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: flip on January 15, 2015, 09:51:37 PM
Over 100,000 harleys and Geezer on his Guzzi. The percentages look about right...
Title: Re: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: jdgretz on January 16, 2015, 12:44:08 AM
I ride a lot with the Patriot Guard Riders and am often the only person not on a Harley or Goldwing.   There was actually one mission where a gentleman showed up on a California 1400.  Wow - 2 Guzzis.   That was most unusual and we made the best of it.

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Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: boatdetective on January 16, 2015, 06:33:35 AM
Sounds great- and out of all those Harleys- how many will look the other way, refuse to wave, or give you the "your bike is crap" because it's not 'Murican" line? 

Geezer- I don't mean to rain on your parade- the getting there will be a great adventure- go for it. I should admit that I do not like group rides of over four people.  I absolutely would not want to be jammed in the middle of a blatting, farting horde of the "Live to Ride, Ride to Live" clan...
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Lannis on January 16, 2015, 11:15:15 AM
Goodness fellas , rain on the Geezers parade why don't we . Go for it Geez .

  Dusty

Everyone's expressing their opinion in as nice and even apologetic way as they can .... being as respectful as possible to the opinion of the OP.

What more are you asking for?

Lannis
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: oldbike54 on January 16, 2015, 11:21:50 AM
Everyone's expressing their opinion in as nice and even apologetic way as they can .... being as respectful as possible to the opinion of the OP.

What more are you asking for?

Lannis

Nothing I suppose , but if the Geezer wants to do this , why poison the well ? Negativity breeds negativity .

  Dusty
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Lannis on January 16, 2015, 11:25:18 AM
Nothing I suppose , but if the Geezer wants to do this , why poison the well ? Negativity breeds negativity .

  Dusty

But no one is even suggesting that Geezer NOT do it, or trying to stop him from doing it.   He has complete freedom to ride wherever he wants.   And he came to WG and said "Who's up for this?" 

Why is having a different opinion than someone else has "Being negative?"   It's just a different opinion, and a response to a question that was asked.

Lannis
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: boatdetective on January 16, 2015, 11:28:44 AM
Lannis is a hater....


...personally, even the word "negativity" drives me up a wall.  It's New Speak.
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: oldbike54 on January 16, 2015, 11:30:34 AM
But no one is even suggesting that Geezer NOT do it, or trying to stop him from doing it.   He has complete freedom to ride wherever he wants.   And he came to WG and said "Who's up for this?" 

Why is having a different opinion than someone else has "Being negative?"   It's just a different opinion, and a response to a question that was asked.

Lannis

No issue with the difference of opinion , but the Geezer wasn't asking for advice , merely if anyone else was interested . Guessing he probably already knows it will be populated by"loud and obnoxious" types .

  Dusty
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Lannis on January 16, 2015, 11:32:34 AM
No issue with the difference of opinion , but the Geezer wasn't asking for advice , merely if anyone else was interested . ....
  Dusty

Yes.   And the question is being answered.   All good.

Lannis
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: ridingron on January 16, 2015, 11:44:27 AM
No thank you. Another meeting and parade of the Mutual Admiration Society.  The ideal is a good and positive, I disagree with how it is implemented.
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: davedude on January 16, 2015, 12:20:02 PM
...personally, even the word "negativity" drives me up a wall.  It's New Speak.
Here here
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Lannis on January 16, 2015, 12:29:37 PM
Lannis is a hater....


...personally, even the word "negativity" drives me up a wall.  It's New Speak.

And "-phobe".  If there's something going on that you don't agree with, and you say so, the PC overseers will take whatever it is you don't like and tack "-phobe" to it, and try to use that as some sort of perjorative against you to stifle dissent to the Party line.

In this case it would be "phono-tubo-phobe", I suppose?   Fear of noisy pipes.

Lannis
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: oldbike54 on January 16, 2015, 12:38:48 PM
 So... come up with a better term for describing what happened here .
 
 Let me try a different tact . Suppose you were in attendance at a small motorbike gathering where you were the only Guzzi rider . Someone says " I've always wanted to attend a Guzzi gathering , looks like fun" . The response from the other attendees is " Why the hell would you want to do that , bunch of old overly opinionated geezers hanging around a camp fire" . Would you at least not tell the person to come on and experience a Guzzi gathering?

 Dusty

Edit . Isn't PC new speak ?
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: dilligaf on January 16, 2015, 12:40:09 PM
I am going to do my level  best to attend the 2015 Rolling Thunder Memorial Day in Wasington DC.
May 24th
More info here:

http://tinyurl.com/nffoou3

C'mon Guzzistas and Distinguished Gentelmen, put your arses and your Guzzis on the road to honor our Vets and let the entire world know that somone still cares.

Who's up for this?

Thanks for the invite but I'll pass.  :BEER:
Matt
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Lannis on January 16, 2015, 12:52:32 PM
So... come up with a better term for describing what happened here .
 
 Let me try a different tact . Suppose you were in attendance at a small motorbike gathering where you were the only Guzzi rider . Someone says " I've always wanted to attend a Guzzi gathering , looks like fun" . The response from the other attendees is " Why the hell would you want to do that , bunch of old overly opinionated geezers hanging around a camp fire" . Would you at least not tell the person to come on and experience a Guzzi gathering?

 Dusty

That's a PRIME analogy of exactly what's happening here!    ;-T

First of all, a Guzzi rally really IS a bunch of old overly opinionated geezers hanging around a camp fire  ;)  :D , just like Rolling Thunder IS a lot of noisy Harleys and Harley-clones parading in a huge look-alike crowd!    Your normal Guzzi rider is NOT going to want to ride in that kind of environment, regardless of the goodness of the cause it supports, and I wouldn't expect them to.

And (conversely) most "Motorcycle Rally Goers" want burn-out contests, mud-wrestling, titty shows, acres of chrome, and a personal appearance from the Teutels or someone.  They are NOT going to want to go and sit around a campfire talking old bikes and old times in their red suspenders and go to bed at midnight, and I wouldn't expect them to.

I guess maybe WG isn't a "Rolling Thunder" venue.    Just like the "Satan's Wild Hog Slaves" clubhouse wouldn't be the place to advertise the Guzzi National rally ... ?

Lannis

Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: oldbike54 on January 16, 2015, 12:56:38 PM
Lannis , so what you are saying is we should never step out of our comfort zone and experience something first hand for ourselves ?

  Dusty
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: LowRyter on January 16, 2015, 01:08:28 PM
 :beat_horse

 :wife:

 :winer


sign language
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: oldbike54 on January 16, 2015, 01:16:35 PM
:beat_horse

 :wife:

 :winer


sign language

Like Tazio (IIRC) stated , I always kind of feel sorry for that poor horse getting whacked in the nads  :D

  Dusty
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: maquette on January 16, 2015, 01:44:08 PM
I am going to do my level  best to attend the 2015 Rolling Thunder Memorial Day in Wasington DC.
May 24th
Who's up for this?

I suppose "not me" would suffice. Why, "not me", is kinda irrelevant, no?

Tom
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Lannis on January 16, 2015, 02:16:12 PM
Lannis , so what you are saying is ......

  Dusty

As usual, no, no matter what follows.   

I may very well go on a motorcycle tour of Southeast Asia, even though I've never experienced it before.   I will likely not sign on as Towel Boy on a Turkish tramp steamer, no matter how I'm encouraged.   

Lannis
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Testarossa on January 16, 2015, 02:19:45 PM
I'll try to be with my dad, now 93 -- USAAF 1941-1945.
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: oldbike54 on January 16, 2015, 02:21:32 PM
As usual, no, no matter what follows.   

I may very well go on a motorcycle tour of Southeast Asia, even though I've never experienced it before.   I will likely not sign on as Towel Boy on a Turkish tramp steamer, no matter how I'm encouraged.   

Lannis

Don't go dude , they will eat you  ::)

  Dusty
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Wayne Orwig on January 16, 2015, 02:24:49 PM
Do you have to have a flatulent exhaust system to ride that?
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: segesta on January 16, 2015, 02:30:19 PM
 >>Isn't PC new speak

I declare this thread Doubleplus Ungood. Guzziana has always been at war with EastHarleyia!
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on January 16, 2015, 05:40:48 PM
Not my scene, if I lived locally I would probably ride thru just to looky loo

I appreciate the intent and it's always powerful to visit the monuments (especially among veterans). I try to get up to DC as my best friend lives up there & works for DoD.. I always carve out time to walk the mall and see the monuments. 


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Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on January 16, 2015, 05:44:51 PM
Not my scene, if I lived locally I would probably ride thru just to looky loo

I appreciate the intent and it's always powerful to visit the monuments (especially among veterans). I try to get up to DC as my best friend lives up there & works for DoD.. I always carve out time to walk the mall and see the monuments. 


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Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: jbntx on January 19, 2015, 07:22:25 AM
So much phobophobic negativity..... Go for it Geezer, but make sure to wear a full face helmet and full-on textile ATGATT, it'll drive 'em nuts.
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Bill Hagan on January 19, 2015, 07:52:32 AM
So much phobophobic negativity..... Go for it Geezer, but make sure to wear a full face helmet and full-on textile ATGATT, it'll drive 'em nuts.

Might not work.

A few years ago, Greg, a friend of mine -- of the Norwegian-bachelor-farmer sort; the kind of guy who, as he had no distaff supervision  :wife:, would wear knee socks with sandals and bermuda shorts  ::) -- rode his Honda Helix scooter to that event. 

I told him Greg that he would be mercilessly mocked, then killed, and later rolled over by the usual suspects there until his body was flatter than Kansas.   :'(

What happened?

"They" loved him.  One group of stereotypical toughs from south Jersey virtually adopted him, kept him safe on the parade --good thing, as he rode worse than he looked -- and took him to see some night life of the kind he'd never seen in Lake Woebegone.   ;D

He came back and said he'd had the time of his life.  He moved out west only a few months later, so hasn't been to another, but he still gets misty-eyed over it.

So, while hardly my cup of espresso, go for it.  The cause is commendable, but I view the event's most positive aspect to be getting folks like that off the real roads on a nice riding day.   ;)

Obviously, as with all such things, YMMV.

Bill



Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: bad Chad on January 19, 2015, 08:43:46 AM
What Bill is describing it the phenomena of "freakish becomes cool".   Your friend was so far off the reservation that he was seen as no threat, and thus creates an opportunity for the mob to embrace the "total nut" and display for all how really cool they are!   The, "See we are so cool and so secure with our badassnes that we have embraced this poor nut job!"

But show up as Jbntx advised in AGAT, on a real-ish motorcycle, the reception is not likely to be nearly so warm and fuzzy.
Title: Re: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Semper-guzzi on January 19, 2015, 09:08:06 AM
No thanks. I'll be where there's almost no traffic, much less noise and far fewer people that weekend (Cass, WV).

There are ways of honoring our veterans without dealing with herds of Hogs or going anywhere near Washington, D.C...   
I am in the same boat. Love my brothers and all, but I rather stay at home and have a few beers in their name.
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: M0T0Geezer on January 19, 2015, 10:24:30 AM
Do you have to have a flatulent exhaust system to ride that?

Actually, my little corn popper is running Mistral exhaust (loud & proud)
   ...and I do have a 'Doo rag...

Would it help to fit in better if I hung a length of chain off one of the handlebar ends?

(http://www.dansher.com/bikepix/30K_Miles_Dec%202014-m.jpg)
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Joe A. on January 19, 2015, 11:30:42 AM
Might not work.

A few years ago, Greg, a friend of mine -- of the Norwegian-bachelor-farmer sort; the kind of guy who, as he had no distaff supervision  :wife:, would wear knee socks with sandals and bermuda shorts  ::) -- rode his Honda Helix scooter to that event.  

I told him Greg that he would be mercilessly mocked, then killed, and later rolled over by the usual suspects there until his body was flatter than Kansas.   :'(

What happened?

"They" loved him.  One group of stereotypical toughs from south Jersey virtually adopted him, kept him safe on the parade --good thing, as he rode worse than he looked -- and took him to see some night life of the kind he'd never seen in Lake Woebegone.   ;D

He came back and said he'd had the time of his life.  He moved out west only a few months later, so hasn't been to another, but he still gets misty-eyed over it.

So, while hardly my cup of espresso, go for it.  The cause is commendable, but I view the event's most positive aspect to be getting folks like that off the real roads on a nice riding day.   ;)

Obviously, as with all such things, YMMV.

Bill





My grandfather used to say, "You will know you're good when you can tell someone to go to hell and they thank you for the advice."

I believe you have this gift  :BEER:
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: twhitaker on January 19, 2015, 12:27:07 PM
Quote
"You will know you're good when you can tell someone to go to hell and they thank you for the advice."

I believe that has been called the 'art of diplomacy'.
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Kentktk on January 19, 2015, 09:37:08 PM
Lannis is a hater....


......and so negative....
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: jdgretz on January 19, 2015, 10:53:49 PM
Actually, my little corn popper is running Mistral exhaust (loud & proud)
   ...and I do have a 'Doo rag...

Would it help to fit in better if I hung a length of chain off one of the handlebar ends?

(http://www.dansher.com/bikepix/30K_Miles_Dec%202014-m.jpg)


Probably  :bike

A bunch of folks from the Patriot Guard, American Legion Riders and other similar groups do what is called the Run For The Wall which ends in Washington D.C. on the 22nd of May.  Many will stay over for Rolling Thunder on the 24th.

If you check the RFTW (http://www.rftw.org/) website you can find when and from where various groups are leaving, if you want to join the procession.

As a vet, it's pretty moving.  As a motorcyclist, I get nervous riding with that many folks I do not know.

Enjoy - it's something you'll never forget.

jdg
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: mtiberio on January 20, 2015, 06:55:16 AM
I live about a half mile from the pentagon, and I did RT a couple of times, never again (and now I have a harley). I find it a disgusting display of checkbook patriotism...
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: Sheepdog on January 20, 2015, 07:21:43 AM
I've planned a trip to New Mexico for Memorial Day. The trip will include a visit to the Vietnam Nam Memorial at Angel Fire. I'll be riding with friends who happen to ride Harley's...but I don't expect any trouble.
Title: Re: Rolling Thunder 2015 - Guzzi Presence
Post by: LowRyter on January 20, 2015, 10:11:48 AM
if this thread is now the segue for posting Memorial Day  plans.... I am going to the Indy 500.    ;-T