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Title: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: slowmover on February 08, 2015, 12:02:31 PM

https://www.youtube.com/embed/xvZF-yP_ceU?feature=player_detailpage
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Lannis on February 08, 2015, 12:30:57 PM
Good to know I am not simply paranoid  :D Yes , this is an issue .

  Dusty

Unless you stay just a tad behind the bleeding-edge-of-technology curve like me, then it's not an issue!

Everyone knows where I live anyway, I've published maps enough over the years to get people to my house ....

Lannis
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Penderic on February 08, 2015, 01:07:32 PM
Thanks for that informative link! And I thought the local varmints were bad enough! Guard your cookies! ::(
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/grab_zpsag1uxlu7.jpg)
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: fotoguzzi on February 08, 2015, 01:18:54 PM
I don't see a way to turn that off (Iphone6)
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Tobit on February 08, 2015, 01:31:54 PM
Just another reminder that you're likely carrying a Big Brother around with you every day.

Tobit
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Lannis on February 08, 2015, 02:01:55 PM
Just another reminder that you're likely carrying a Big Brother around with you every day.

Tobit


And we pay a lot of money to do it too!  (I use "we" advisedly).

Lannis (old Kodak EasyShare with no GPS).
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Aaron D. on February 08, 2015, 02:14:01 PM
Phone cameras suck. But I leave location services off on my devices anyway.
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on February 08, 2015, 02:55:16 PM
 If you have a crime committed against you by someone who used this technology to assist in that crime,
 You should sue the people who put that technology into your phone as they are the enablers therefore they are
 as guilty as the perps.
  If this were done they would stop putting this ability into these devices.
 If people want this in their devices and knowingly ask for it then the people who built the phone are innocent.
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Scott DeRoss on February 08, 2015, 03:19:46 PM
I don't see a way to turn that off (Iphone6)

Foto, I have a I phone 4 and on mine you go to settings then privacy then location services and you are able to turn whatever you want off or on. or everything at once by turning location services off. Scott
Title: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: nikwax on February 08, 2015, 03:33:02 PM
Does anyone bother to verify information before posting it here? Look at your online photos and see if the EXIF data is present. It's not on Facebook, contrary to what the video claims.
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Lannis on February 08, 2015, 03:35:39 PM
Does anyone bother to verify information before posting it here?

Good question, hold on: let me check.

(Jeopardy music .... 3 minutes).

No, I still don't own a smartphone with a camera and GPS capability, so this concern is not a risk to me and mine.

Thanks!

Lannis
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: fotoguzzi on February 08, 2015, 04:43:40 PM
Foto, I have a I phone 4 and on mine you go to settings then privacy then location services and you are able to turn whatever you want off or on. or everything at once by turning location services off. Scott
Thx Scott found it now and turned it off.
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: fotoguzzi on February 08, 2015, 05:11:15 PM
I'm not getting that SW yet but if anyone has it, check out this pic and see what info is attached please.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/fotoguzzi/IMG_0615_zpsxcy0ijha.jpg)
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Daniel Kalal on February 08, 2015, 05:21:05 PM
check out this pic and see what info is attached please.
Nothing here.

This isn't anything new.  If you're running Windows, you can RH click on a photo file and remove all properties and personal information (it's under Properties/Details).  I purposely selected my most recent camera because it has the ability to save lat/lon coordinates with the photograph.  That's a very handy thing if you cannot remember where you were.  It's easy to turn off, as it is with any phone.  You'd be able to find that info on many of the Euro photographs that I have posted here (along with all the lens and other camera settings I used for the shot).
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Sheepdog on February 08, 2015, 05:51:15 PM
I maintained a high government clearance for 23 years. I am an open book...
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Guzzistajohn on February 08, 2015, 08:38:05 PM
The wife is worried, someone might steal our schnauzer :-\ OMG! I bet someone's breaking into the US capitol in D.C. right now. I knew I shouldn't have posted those pics.
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on February 08, 2015, 09:09:08 PM
  The people who build those features into a camera are guilty of being an accessory after the fact.
  I carries the same penalty as the crime itself.
  If a person give security information about something valuable and it gets stolen because of that, they are guilty as an accessory,
  just the same as someone who drove a getaway car after a bank robbery or provided a hiding place for the perp.
   It only needs to be prosecuted to obtain a conviction.  Criminal penalty and lawsuit should follow.
   If this happened, a lot less phones and cameras would have this feature.
  Technology has outstripped privacy again.
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Lannis on February 08, 2015, 09:20:19 PM
 The people who build those features into a camera are guilty of being an accessory after the fact.
  I carries the same penalty as the crime itself.
  If a person give security information about something valuable and it gets stolen because of that, they are guilty as an accessory,
  just the same as someone who drove a getaway car after a bank robbery or provided a hiding place for the perp.
   It only needs to be prosecuted to obtain a conviction.  Criminal penalty and lawsuit should follow.
   If this happened, a lot less phones and cameras would have this feature.
  Technology has outstripped privacy again.

What?   And this from the man who has his exact lat. / lon. coordinates posted under his name on thousands of Wild Guzzi posts?  

Seriously, if you don't want that dangerous high-tech s**t in the house, don't spend hundreds of dollars and then a monthly subscription to bring it in there, that's what I say!   ;-T

Lannis
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Guzzistajohn on February 08, 2015, 09:29:26 PM
What?   And this from the man who has his exact lat. / lon. coordinates posted under his name on thousands of Wild Guzzi posts? 

Seriously, if you don't want that s**t in the house, don't spend hundreds of dollars and then a monthly subscription to bring it in there, that's what I say!   ;-T

Lannis

Oh, but that's.................. .................HA WAII!       (It's where he lives)..........in Hawaii. Where it's warm.
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Lannis on February 08, 2015, 09:34:23 PM
Oh, but that's.................. .................HA WAII!       (It's where he lives)..........in Hawaii. Where it's warm.

I don't use technology.   For example, this computer I'm on is steam-powered, connected by a rubber tube to a semaphore that somehow communicates with a satellite, and then via Aldis lamp straight to YOUR computer ....

Lannis
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Guzzistajohn on February 08, 2015, 09:39:50 PM
I don't use technology.   For example, this computer I'm on is steam-powered, connected by a rubber tube to a semaphore that somehow communicates with a satellite, and then via Aldis lamp straight to YOUR computer ....

Lannis

I'm running a dual squirrel system and tintype for photos. Hold on, gotta get some nuts.
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: 1Sourdough on February 08, 2015, 10:46:03 PM
Just read this news story awhile ago.  Sorta relates to the photo location info but even more interesting in that people tend to talk a lot when in the "privacy" of their homes...

       http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/08/telescreen/
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: nikwax on February 09, 2015, 08:57:01 AM
I'm not getting that SW yet but if anyone has it, check out this pic and see what info is attached please.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/fotoguzzi/IMG_0615_zpsxcy0ijha.jpg)


I downloaded the photo and looked at the metadata. Nothing there that can identify the dog's whereabouts.


I call BS on the video
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: nikwax on February 09, 2015, 09:02:11 AM
  The people who build those features into a camera are guilty of being an accessory after the fact.
  I carries the same penalty as the crime itself.
  If a person give security information about something valuable and it gets stolen because of that, they are guilty as an accessory,
  just the same as someone who drove a getaway car after a bank robbery or provided a hiding place for the perp.
   It only needs to be prosecuted to obtain a conviction.  Criminal penalty and lawsuit should follow.
   If this happened, a lot less phones and cameras would have this feature.
  Technology has outstripped privacy again.


By that logic, I can sue an automobile manufacturer for installing an engine in the car....all that speed is dangerous !!
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: swooshdave on February 09, 2015, 09:26:46 AM
Services like Photobucket will strip the metadata when you upload. Just don't upload original images anywhere.
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Daniel Kalal on February 09, 2015, 09:32:45 AM
the video makes a true, but rather pointless point: 

"If you select to have latitude and longitude information saved with photographs you take with your camera or smartphone, then your photograph files will include latitude and longitude information."

This is not profound...
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Dean Rose on February 09, 2015, 09:33:36 AM
http://www.zdnet.com/article/samsung-smarttv-eavesdropping-flap-overblown/
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: fotoguzzi on February 09, 2015, 09:38:05 AM
Services like Photobucket will strip the metadata when you upload. Just don't upload original images anywhere.
thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Wayne Orwig on February 09, 2015, 09:49:06 AM
Some people can use some tin foil.....

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee208/worwig/publicshare/tin-foil-hat.jpg) (http://s235.photobucket.com/user/worwig/media/publicshare/tin-foil-hat.jpg.html)

Before your device adds the location to the EXIF data, it asks permission. I say yes, because I find that having the location where the photo was taken useful. I wish my regular camera did that.
Most sites (Fecesbook, etc.) strip off the EXIF data.
Obviously, if you have it turned on, you would want to edit the location out of anything sensitive. Whatever that means.



Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: blackcat on February 09, 2015, 09:59:17 AM
I have been posting pictures of my Guzzi's for awhile, even with the license plate not fuzzed out and no one has tried to steal them from my garage. Can't imagine that any of you guys & gals want to steal them, so I guess I'm OK.  8)
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Penderic on February 09, 2015, 10:28:45 AM
Prisoners of Technology Revolt!  ~;

Hey, where did everybody go?  P:)

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/cell-phone-survival-funny-cell-phone-pictures_zpsr55l13xd.jpg)
Order a pair of sneakers.

Film a local riot.

Take a selfie.

Annoy others.

Talk, Drive and Chew Gum.

.

.
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on February 09, 2015, 11:30:50 AM
I have been posting pictures of my Guzzi's for awhile, even with the license plate not fuzzed out and no one has tried to steal them from my garage. Can't imagine that any of you guys & gals want to steal them, so I guess I'm OK.  8)


 That's just because they are Guzzis.
Title: Re: before you show pictures online, watch this
Post by: cruzziguzzi on February 10, 2015, 10:53:29 AM
Not a problem here. Hell, I get mocked by senior citizens for my archaic phone.

"Do those still even work?"

At that, I still pull out an old Motorola contractor's phone from time to time to see if it can be resurrected.

Smart phone? Mine's absolutely and quite literally imbecilic.

Todd