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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Antietam Classic Cycle on February 11, 2015, 10:17:24 PM
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One of the previous owners of my Cagiva Elefant thought it was a good idea to only actuate one of the enrichers with the handlebar control, the other one is a "flip choke". I'd install two flip chokes if you could reach them, but they're quite buried under the tank. The original configuration was a single cable from the control into a splitter and then two cables to each carburetor. IIRC, the Mille GT and a few others use this setup as well?
Does this handlebar control look familiar to Mille owners?
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m5/Amboman4/Cagiva%20Elefant%20650/Elefant%2002112015%20007_zpsyuaiihcx.jpg)
Just trying to figure out what (Guzzi) cables and splitter I need to buy. Cagiva parts aren't exactly available. :(
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I cant remember what my mille had, but I think some ducatis use that set up
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My 88/89 Cali III has that exact switchgear. The 89 SessantacinqueGT (V65GT) has similar but not exactly the same.
Cali cables will be longer due to the cruiser bars. The throttle cable ends and splitter are the same for both bikes.
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Does this handlebar control look familiar to Mille owners?
It's not the same as my '89 Mille's. The enricher "choke" on mine is like a tiny clutch lever, pivoting on the same bolt as the real clutch lever. But the post above probably gave you what you're looking for.
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That same set up was on my 91 Ducati 907ie.
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Hey Charlie, if its any help, Im pretty sure Flanders sells a universal splitter, you might be able to use. I am sure you already know, but they also sell the cabling stuff to easily make the thin throttle/choke type cables. I have some material left over from making enricher cables for my eldo and Cal II. If you have trouble finding what you need, I would be glad to make a set of custom cables for you (free of course) just let me know what length/freeplay, and types of ends you need.
Rick.
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You'll see some small blocks with that as well. My V50 back in my dads shed has those controls. The V35III I had as a first bike also had those controls.
*edit* - except for choke which was placed at left cylinder
**edit 2 - My dealer has said that they were also used in Duc's. Just like JoeW said
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not like the one on my 1990 Mille Gt ................ ???
Tim
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Same set up as LeMans 5, SP3. You can get a new one from Guzzi, at least a few years back.
Price was $150. The switch I got had the button to turn off lights.
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Ducati 900ss if you want orange, DR650 if you prefer yellow highlights.
Also if it has Mikuni CV carbs (blah) there probably is only one cable for the choke. The enrichener circuits should be tied together on the rack and have one point of connection for the cable.
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Thanks for the replies. To clarify, I don't need the switch or choke assembly, as you can see I have those. Carbs are Dellorto PHF36, that's why I chose Guzzi to cross cables from rather than Ducati. What I need is the upper cable, splitter and lower cables. MG Cycle has the splitter inexpensively enough, just need to figure out what Guzzi might have cables the correct lengths.
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...just need to figure out what Guzzi might have cables the correct lengths.
I believe that Guzziology has a big section that covers all cable lengths and end fitting diameters, part numbers, etc., and what models they were used on. I was able to find a shorter clutch cable for my Mille that has lower than stock bars by using those tables.
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What I need is the upper cable, splitter and lower cables. MG Cycle has the splitter inexpensively enough, just need to figure out what Guzzi might have cables the correct lengths.
Similar setup as my 1000S.
Upper cable #28132878
Below splitter:
Lower cable #29133550
Lower cable #29134050
I would think that the upper cable might be too long given the locations of those carbs.
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I believe that Guzziology has a big section that covers all cable lengths and end fitting diameters, part numbers, etc., and what models they were used on. I was able to find a shorter clutch cable for my Mille that has lower than stock bars by using those tables.
Similar setup as my 1000S.
Upper cable #28132878
Below splitter:
Lower cable #29133550
Lower cable #29134050
I would think that the upper cable might be too long given the locations of those carbs.
Thanks for the suggestions. Lower cables will be easy I think - just pick a model with that splitter and PHFs. Upper cable will require some thought - as Tom points out the carbs are bit closer to the bars than on a Guzzi, but the bars are fairly wide "MX" style. Something with low bars or clip-ons like the 1000S might be a good cross. Just need to have a look at the Elefant control and see if the cable needs a built in elbow or if that's part of the control already.
Both carbs nestle in the "V":
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m5/Amboman4/Cagiva%20Elefant%20650/Cagiva%20Elefant%20019_zpsmfmpjpjg_1.jpg)
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If anyone is interested in following along on my progress with the "Elefant Resurrection", here's a link to a photo slideshow: http://s100.photobucket.com/user/Amboman4/slideshow/Cagiva%20Elefant%20650
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Ducati SS of the era used the same setup as well.
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My 90 Cali III Touring has that set up. :BEER: