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Title: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: kevdog3019 on February 17, 2015, 10:36:07 PM
I've got some old spade type connectors on the Lario that pull off quite easily. Also, the neutral switch connection that slides into place also finds its way off. Wondering if there's some product that gives them some holding power without taking away the connection?
Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: Triple Jim on February 17, 2015, 10:55:09 PM
Maybe but a small blob of solder on the end so it has a hard time sliding back through (?)
Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: crc on February 17, 2015, 10:57:48 PM
I normally crimp the female spade carefully with pliers
Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: rodekyll on February 17, 2015, 11:00:27 PM
If they won't bend back down with pliars (and stay that way) they've softened, probably from heat.  In that case they should be replaced.  But no, there's no thread locker level of cure.
Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: Rough Edge racing on February 18, 2015, 07:52:38 AM
 Crimp on type connectors vary greatly in quality,.....T&B brand found in some electrical supply houses are usually high quality. Online vendors like Mouser have thousands of different types, many are specification grade.
Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: Triple Jim on February 18, 2015, 08:01:19 AM
I may have misunderstood the question.  If these are standard crimp connectors and the wires are pulling out, as RER said above, you need high quality connectors and a professional ratchet type crimper.  AMP is the brand I use, but as I said in another thread, I solder after crimping for several reasons.  It keeps moisture out of the connection, it ensures low electrical resistance, it eliminates the chance of pull-out, and if you solder at the wire tip and don't linger too long, the solder won't wick down the wire and make a stiff spot.
Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: acogoff on February 18, 2015, 08:19:45 AM
     The female spade connectors that they came with are real junk. after only about 25 years they corrode and loose tension. That's a joke, but they do break-lose tension with age.
 They are easily replaced. Invest in a crimping tool- I think even Menards has them.
Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: mtiberio on February 18, 2015, 08:20:30 AM
dielectric grease
Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: charlie b on February 18, 2015, 08:21:44 AM
I have had the same problem and tried various solutions, like bending with pliers and adding some solder.  They work for a little bit, but, fail in a thousand miles or less, and usually when you can least afford it.  If you are on the road and have to fix it to get home, then crimping  with pliers will usually get you there.

Replace the connectors.  I carry some extra ends with me on the bike.  I have modified part of the wire cutter portion of my Leatherman to be able to crimp them in emergencies (I replace and properly crimp when I get home).

PS I do not use one of the expensive ratcheting crimpers.  When only doing one or two at a time, the cheaper ones have worked well for me.
Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: dilligaf on February 18, 2015, 08:26:15 AM
dielectric grease

Will not solve a loose electrical connection problem.  :BEER:
Matt
Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: kevdog3019 on February 18, 2015, 09:05:11 AM
Well, the hopes for a "sticky" solution seem unlikely. I want these removable as they are switched connections. Nothing that won't keep the bike from running. I don't want to hard solder them. I may have to get clever if it keeps happening. Most are fine and will only come off if I'm fiddling in the area. The neutral connection is plain loose as is a weird one. I may have to bend the female end is all. Too bad they don't make something like thread locker for bolts. I suspect we'd be cursing the PO's if they did.
Thanks all.


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Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: Wayne Orwig on February 18, 2015, 09:07:05 AM
Bend them with pliers a little bit to tighten then back up.
Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: Triple Jim on February 18, 2015, 09:11:36 AM
Bend them with pliers a little bit to tighten then back up.

I misunderstood twice.   :D   Kevdog was saying the connectors pull off the make tabs they connect to, not the wires as I thought he meant.  Yes, Wayne and others above are right on.
Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: Goosecoop on February 18, 2015, 09:41:40 AM
Hey Kev,

A friend of mine bought the kit from Vintage Connections which included the crimping tool. We used it the other week on a vehicle that we are working on that had the same problem. Worked really, really well. Check it out at www.vintageconnecti ons.com.

Mike
Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on February 18, 2015, 04:03:05 PM
There's always conductive epoxy, but once in place, it'll stay in place forever...  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: Bill Havins on February 18, 2015, 05:26:13 PM
Will not solve a loose electrical connection problem.  :BEER:
Matt

Sure it will.  It will always "read" as "not making a connection."  You won't have any doubt.  :D

Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: kevdog3019 on February 18, 2015, 05:52:16 PM
Hey Kev,

A friend of mine bought the kit from Vintage Connections which included the crimping tool. We used it the other week on a vehicle that we are working on that had the same problem. Worked really, really well. Check it out at www.vintageconnecti ons.com.

Mike

Thanks Mike, looks promising!
Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: Guzzistajohn on February 18, 2015, 06:23:04 PM
I say replace 'em. they are worn out.
Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: biking sailor on February 18, 2015, 06:43:32 PM
Might try liquid solder products.  I have and worked pretty well at keeping electrical spade terminals from vibrating apart.

http://www.ehow.com/about_4779321_liquid-solders.html
Title: Re: Is there a comparable substance like thread lock for electrical connections?
Post by: RinkRat II on February 18, 2015, 10:56:36 PM
Yo Kevdog, Belden makes a couple of different crimping pliers just for that purpose, kind of a multi tool for plugs, spade connectors and specialty connectors. Sorry don't have a link but Google Belden and  Voila.  ~;

     Paul B :BEER: