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Title: Ferrari or Batman (NGC) but it's Italian
Post by: Dean Rose on February 18, 2015, 07:06:27 AM
http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/17/8051289/ferrari-f1-formula-one-concept-car
Title: Re: Ferrari or Batman
Post by: oldbike54 on February 18, 2015, 07:14:18 AM
 I like it ! Probably never see the track , but it is lovely .

  Dusty
Title: Re: Ferrari or Batman
Post by: Cheese on February 18, 2015, 07:19:39 AM
Beautiful. What happened to "open wheel" racing? Looks like an open cockpit LeMans Can-Am prototype from the 70's, or perhaps a Panoz.
Title: Re: Ferrari or Batman (NGC) but it's Italian
Post by: LowRyter on February 18, 2015, 10:18:00 AM
meanwhile. back at the Brickyard, Chevy had come up with one of the ugliest "open wheel" racers ever.  I hope it has enough horsepower to push all those wings.

(http://www.meca-web.fr/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/chevrolet-Indycar.jpg)

(http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/750x422/quality/95/http://www.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/334/983/1/S3349831/slug/l/2015-chevrolet-verizon-indycar-aeropkg-02-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Ferrari or Batman (NGC) but it's Italian
Post by: Lannis on February 18, 2015, 10:30:53 AM
Racecars look like they have to look, to meet the rules and to go faster than everyone else.   I don't think anyone is going to spend money on a racecar that "looks good" at the expense of performance!   

If they win, everyone with money in the game will call them beautiful ....

Lannis
Title: Re: Ferrari or Batman (NGC) but it's Italian
Post by: Guido Valvole on February 18, 2015, 10:52:55 AM
Racing cars were originally open-wheeled because the mudguards were removed to save weight. Once fully-enveloping bodies were developed for road cars, open-wheel was more tradition and/or rules. Grand Prix and Indy cars were not always single-seaters. Riding mechanics were used into the 20s.

Full bodywork was legal in F1 as late as the mid-1950s. The first Mercedes-Benz W196 was the streamliner. Open wheels make for a lot of aerodynamic drag, limiting top speed (for a given amount of power). Without the tires are points of reference, drivers had problems telling where the corners of the car were… So the open-wheel W196 quickly followed and was used on tracks where top speed was not as important.

Connaught also had a streamliner at that time and at the other end of the field. I think a Maserati 250F was similarly outfitted, with a notable lack of success. More bodywork = more weight.

Wings on cars today are for downforce. Drag is immense, but the ability to go faster in corners is more important than top speed in a straight line.
cr
Title: Re: Ferrari or Batman (NGC) but it's Italian
Post by: Penderic on February 18, 2015, 11:41:06 AM
I grew up (kinda), thinking that the popular European performance and rally cars were world leaders in the chassis and handling dept. as well as being able to create some of the most sensuous curvy bodywork on wheels.  :-*

But the American stuff had the advantage of greater horsepower (cubic inches), and chrome shiny bits!

Kinda like....

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Loren%20vrs%20Mansfield_zpscbhshke5.jpg)
 :D

 
Title: Re: Ferrari or Batman (NGC) but it's Italian
Post by: not-fishing on February 18, 2015, 01:05:22 PM
Reminds me of

(http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/Beech-Staggerwing/IMAGES/Beechcraft-D17-Staggerwing-Inflight.jpg)

And we have winglets!
Title: Re: Ferrari or Batman (NGC) but it's Italian
Post by: QCGoose on February 18, 2015, 07:47:13 PM
Looks a helluva lot better than the ugly abominations that are on today's circuits, that's for sure. ::)
Title: Re: Ferrari or Batman
Post by: Tobit on February 19, 2015, 06:19:51 AM
Beautiful. What happened to "open wheel" racing? Looks like an open cockpit LeMans Can-Am prototype from the 70's, or perhaps a Panoz.

My initial thought as well.  Gorgeous car, no question.  I see it as a concept leading to a convergence of Ferrari's road car and F1 styling. 

Tobit