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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: blackbuell on March 02, 2015, 08:46:36 AM
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I'm already tired of the latest A-B TV ad campaign for Budweiser beer. I guess they are trying to convince red-blooded American men that only pussies drink craft beers. Funny thing, though. The parent company has recently been purchasing microbreweries and is trying to purchase many more. Oh well....I've never been a Bud fan anyway....
Jon
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What is Budweiser ??? :D BB , you may be watching too much TV , but yes the whole thing does reek :BEER:
Dusty
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I'm already tired of the latest A-B TV ad campaign for Budweiser beer. I guess they are trying to convince red-blooded American men that only pussies drink craft beers. Funny thing, though. The parent company has recently been purchasing microbreweries and is trying to purchase many more. Oh well....I've never been a Bud fan anyway....
Jon
Marketing and capitalism. Tell people who they are and what they want. Buy and eliminate the competition, or buy and rebrand the competitions compatible products as your own. If it works, great. Bonuses all around. If not, there's always the old adage:
If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. (And fire the ad agency.) ~;
Tobit
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i saw that one too, and was like wtf. they admit they make bad beer and that others make better beer. but be one of us, the cool guys who drink bud. its akin to every car company that says be unique be an individual.. buy our SUV that we will sell 200,000 of this year
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Anheuser-Busch no longr exists. It is InBev no matter what they call it.
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Anheuser-Busch no longr exists. It is InBev no matter what they call it.
Yep. Just a brand name of a huge international corporation...
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The Bud drinkers of old are either drinking Bud Light, Coors Light or Macro/Micro Craft. The Bud brand is is getting squeezed out.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/188723/top-domestic-beer-brands-in-the-united-states/
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I have yet to understand the big deal about all the overpriced craft beers. Yes some of it is pretty good but is it twice or three times better than a bud or a blue ribbon? I personally don't think so
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"If you drink a craft ber you are a sissy"....
From the company whose flagship beer is named Stella Artois.
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I have yet to understand the big deal about all the overpriced craft beers. Yes some of it is pretty good but is it twice or three times better than a bud or a blue ribbon? I personally don't think so
Obviously a matter or individual taste, but to me it is. Bud was bad when there far fewer choices.
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I have yet to understand the big deal about all the overpriced craft beers. Yes some of it is pretty good but is it twice or three times better than a bud or a blue ribbon? I personally don't think so
I only drink what , maybe 15 beers a year , but prefer skunky Czech stuff . However , the occasional PBR is
pleasant around a camp fire , especially when imported from Missouri :BEER:
Dusty
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"If you drink a craft ber you are a sissy"....
From the company whose flagship beer is named Stella Artois.
Stella better known this side of the pond as 'wife beater'.
Only see Bud in supermarkets these days in large packs heavily discounted so not very popular anymore.
Craft beer is a marketing ploy to charge extra for keg beer which to us is real ale (cask) pasturised, chilled and filled with gas, basically ruined.
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I only drink what , maybe 15 beers a year , but prefer skunky Czech stuff .
You probably know, but you can take any beer that was brewed with real hops and leave a clear class in sunlight for a few minutes, and you'll have the skunk flavor you like. It won't work with Miller High Life because they use only the alpha acid found in hops for bitterness. They know they can't use whole hops because of the clear bottles they put it in. Beer doesn't leave the brewery skunky, it's the result of bad storage.
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I have yet to understand the big deal about all the overpriced craft beers. Yes some of it is pretty good but is it twice or three times better than a bud or a blue ribbon? I personally don't think so
It depends on what you mean by better.
I mean, take a Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout (still from a large output brewery, not a small local brewery, but you could at least call it a craft product). There is so little in common between a Bud (an Americanized version of the light pilsner) and a the SS Oatmeal Stout that it is hard to compare them. Sorta like comparing white and red wines, but maybe even further removed, maybe comparing a Chardonnay with a Port might be closer.
And is a Port worth a higher price than a Chardonnay? Depends on the examples, but usually YES. Not only by my taste, but by what it takes to make it. The process requires higher volumes of more expensive ingredients and more time/care (aging).
Kinda like a cheap white rum and a oak-aged rum. They both started out as white ethanol distilled from fermented sugar cane, but to make an oak-aged rum (not just an artificially spiced or flavored rum, but an aged one) takes times and care. You need to store it in charred oak barrels (often ones previously used for whiskey) and allow it to age for 5 or 10 years (or more). During that time you lose some of it to evaporation. It then has to be carefully blended checked for consistency of color and flavor before it is bottled and sold.
The taste is different, much more full. If that matters to you, then it is certainly worth a couple of dollars more than the white rum.
You can find examples like this throughout the world of beer, wine, and spirits and just about any other commodities out there.
Craft beers from true local breweries can be WONDERFUL. There really is nothing quite like a pint of FRESH beer. And yeah, to me it's worth way more than the price of Bud.
Some people feel this way about quirky Italian motorcycles too.
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Craft beer is a marketing ploy to charge extra for keg beer which to us is real ale (cask) pasturised, chilled and filled with gas, basically ruined.
Wow, you must not have the same craft beers available to you that we have here. Brands like Sierra Nevada actually have live yeast in them that you can see at the bottom of the bottle.
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You probably know, but you can take any beer that was brewed with real hops and leave a clear class in sunlight for a few minutes, and you'll have the skunk flavor you like. It won't work with Miller High Life because they use only the alpha acid found in hops for bitterness. They know they can't use whole hops because of the clear bottles they put it in. Beer doesn't leave the brewery skunky, it's the result of bad storage.
Jim , I use the term skunky loosely . It is really the hoppy taste that is pleasing to me , Pilsner as opposed to lager or IPA . Or , as a friend puts it "beer that fights back" :D
Dusty
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Jim , I use the term skunky loosely . It is really the hoppy taste that is pleasing to me , Pilsner as opposed to lager or IPA . Or , as a friend puts it "beer that fights back" :D
Dusty
OK understood, but skunk flavor is considered to be an off-flavor, and has nothing to do with hop flavor.
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Was at a beach bar in Florida years back. The waitress came by and said there was someone there from A-B, and he was going to buy everyone a free round of A-B beer. I had a Yuengling.
:BEER:
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OK understood, but skunk flavor is considered to be an off-flavor, and has nothing to do with hop flavor.
True , but to most 'Murican beer drinkers , the term skunky means any beer that actually tastes like beer :D Remember the commercials for a brand of American beer that implied all imports were skunky because they tasted like beer :BEER: Dang , now a Pilsner Urquell sounds good , Guzzistajohn , split a six pack at CV ? CJ 750 ?
Anyone ? :BEER:
Dusty
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Wow, you must not have the same craft beers available to you that we have here. Brands like Sierra Nevada actually have live yeast in them that you can see at the bottom of the bottle.
I suppose what you call craft beer is to us real ale. Basically beer that finishes it's fermentaion in the barrel or bottle. It nearly died out in the seventies because breweries wanted to mass produce keg beer (pasturised). But thanks to campaigners such as CAMRA it is never been so popular.
http://www.camra.org.uk/about-real-ale
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Heck, all beer tastes horrible. :D
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You sir have obviously never tasted Theakston's old Peculiar hand pumped by a buxom wench straight from the oak barrel barrel.
https://www.theakstons.co.uk/Ales/Old-Peculier/
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True , but to most 'Murican beer drinkers , the term skunky means any beer that actually tastes like beer :D
God, I hope not, but it may be largely true. I've read that the folks at Heineken export their beer in green bottles to allow UV to skunk the beer, because the stupid Americans think it should taste that way. Heineken that I've had that was shipped in cans has no skunk flavor, and is in fact pretty good for a very mild beer. The bottled Heineken sold in Europe was in brown bottles last I noticed.
I suppose what you call craft beer is to us real ale. Basically beer that finishes it's fermentaion in the barrel or bottle. It nearly died out in the seventies because breweries wanted to mass produce keg beer (pasturised). But thanks to campaigners such as CAMRA it is never been so popular.
http://www.camra.org.uk/about-real-ale
Essentially all the "beer" I drink is ale I made myself, so I don't have to put up with lesser brews. ;D As your link points out, whether it's ale or beer is determined by the type of yeast used, not whether it's bottle conditioned or cask conditioned. It uses the term "real" to mean it was naturally conditioned and not force carbonated. Wikipedia has a pretty good definition of Craft Beer:
"Craft brewing" is a more encompassing term for developments in the industry succeeding the microbrewing movement of the later 20th century. The definition is not entirely consistent, but it typically applies to relatively small, independently-owned commercial breweries that employ traditional brewing methods and emphasize flavor and quality. The term is usually reserved for breweries established since the 1970s, but may be used for older breweries with a similar focus.
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I might be old, but I remember when Budweiser was the cheap beer.....the beer you drank when you didn't have any money for good beer. When did Budweiser become the "Premium Beer"? ??? :BEER:
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I might be old, but I remember when Budweiser was the cheap beer.....the beer you drank when you didn't have any money for good beer. When did Budweiser become the "Premium Beer"? ??? :BEER:
I'm 57, and when I was 18 in 1976, Bud was around $2.10/6-pack, close to double the price of beers like PBR, National Bo, and Black Label.
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As far as I'm concerned you just rent the stuff anyway. I'll save my booze dollars for a nice whiskey or burbon.
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I'm creeping up on 58 and I grew up in Illinois drinking Old Style and Stroh's. Don't remember what they cost but Bud was probably more the Old Style and cheaper than Stroh's.
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I used to "Pose With a Stroh's" once in a while myself. I remember it was easier to chug than most others, due to a lower level of carbonation. I could get down a whole 16 oz. can. :D
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Got my merit badge in the beer/brew stuff long ago so I don't havta worry about this whole discussion.
But what am I doing now? Still looking for the ideal imported N.A. Go figger...
Spuddy
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A friend told a story about how his Grandfather would pour beer into a dish to control the slug population in his garden . Apparently slugs like the taste of beer , however the Grandfather decided to stop using his good beer
(Schlitz ???) and replace it with the stuff sold in Safeway in white cans labeled BEER . The slugs declined to drink that product :BEER: :D
Dusty
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One of the great things about Bike Week besides the bikes is you can get both Bud and Busch. Such a deal. :BEER:
Pete
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A friend told a story about how his Grandfather would pour beer into a dish to control the slug population in his garden .
That works really well. One year slugs were messing up our tomatoes, so my wife cut windows around plastic soda bottles, but a little beer in them, and buried them so the windows were at ground level. Slugs committed suicide by the dozens, and the bottles kept most other critters out.
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My neighbor and friend is an executive with Goose Island, a medium-sized brewery purchased by AB Inbev a couple of years ago, so I am biased...
Remember that advertising is about associating an image--like that dopey pickup truck commercial that literally states that "a truck makes you cool and sexy." Never mind if you have no need of a truck.
Similarly, what the Bud ads are saying is: "It's okay to drink our watery, bitter lager. You/we're your own type of cool."
As advertising, it's dangerous, kind of like "we're not your father's Oldsmobile." Young people scoffed, and old Oldsmobile drivers were insulted.
That said, I do not like Budweiser, and I do like the Goose Island products, especially The Muddy and motor-oil-like Bourbon County Stout. The ownership of Inbev has not had a detrimental effect on GI quality.
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I have yet to understand the big deal about all the overpriced craft beers. Yes some of it is pretty good but is it twice or three times better than a bud or a blue ribbon? I personally don't think so
;-T I think that's where they're comin' from.
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I'm already tired of the latest A-B TV ad campaign for Budweiser beer. I guess they are trying to convince red-blooded American men that only pussies drink craft beers. Funny thing, though. The parent company has recently been purchasing microbreweries and is trying to purchase many more. Oh well....I've never been a Bud fan anyway....
Jon
There's not much to say about a beer that advertises with horses and puppies. ;)
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One of the great things about Bike Week besides the bikes is you can get both Bud and Busch. Such a deal. :BEER:
Pete
the Bike Week treat for us flat-landers west of the Mississippi is Yuengling and 50 cent oysters. ;-T
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Jim , I use the term skunky loosely . It is really the hoppy taste that is pleasing to me , Pilsner as opposed to lager or IPA . Or , as a friend puts it "beer that fights back" :D
Dusty
Ahem...IPA is a hoppy beer. That's what gives it the distinctive flavor.
Back in the day to us a skunked beer was one that had gone bad due to poor storage methods and not being pasteurized.
Little did I know later in life I would be building bottle washers and beer pasteurizers.
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It looks like the ad campaign is a success, even has a bunch of grumpy snowed in motorcycle owners burning up the keypads about it. Yes I'm one of them.
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You sir have obviously never tasted Theakston's old Peculiar hand pumped by a buxom wench straight from the oak barrel barrel.
https://www.theakstons.co.uk/Ales/Old-Peculier/
No, but, I have tried many vairants in Germany, served frequently by the German barmaids, includint one trip to Munich for Oktoberfest.
And hand made craft beers of many type fresh from the vat.
I just don't like the ales and beers. Not picky. I don't like most wine either.
"I don't drink much, but when I do, I prefer good whiskey" :D :D :D
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It looks like the ad campaign is a success, even has a bunch of grumpy snowed in motorcycle owners burning up the keypads about it. Yes I'm one of them.
That might be true if any of us could remember what the ad was for :o :D We need an old guy emoticon ;D
Dusty
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Stella better known this side of the pond as 'wife beater'.
Only see Bud in supermarkets these days in large packs heavily discounted so not very popular anymore.
Craft beer is a marketing ploy to charge extra for keg beer which to us is real ale (cask) pasturised, chilled and filled with gas, basically ruined.
huh? when i splurge i have duvel or maredsous. top of the line. though i did get an IPA in abq called la cumbre. it was pretty damn good. i would consider those craft beers. stella is a joke its just a marketing campaign, nothing more. thats like calling rolling rock a craft beer
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You sir have obviously never tasted Theakston's old Peculiar hand pumped by a buxom wench straight from the oak barrel barrel.
https://www.theakstons.co.uk/Ales/Old-Peculier/
Check that spelling. :)
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Glad we have a lot of craft brews around here. Budweiser is a poor copy of a pilsener from Budovice, Czech republic. Budweiser is the german spelling. Budovice cannot sell it's superior product in the US and call it by it's original name. Too bad, it's much better than the fizzy budwater.
Incidentally the term pilsener is the german name for a beer style invented in Plzen, Czech republic- a well-hopped lager.
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When it comes to beer, I have two words:
Pilsner Urquell. :BEER:
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When it comes to beer, I have two words:
Pilsner Urquell. :BEER:
Yep .
Dusty
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When it comes to beer, I have two words:
When it comes to beer, I have three words:
Where's The Whiskey ?
:BEER:
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The Bud drinkers of old are either drinking Bud Light, Coors Light or Macro/Micro Craft. The Bud brand is is getting squeezed out.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/188723/top-domestic-beer-brands-in-the-united-states/
Bud is still the number 4 beer in world wide sales behind number 3 Bud Light. That translates into a lot of suds and $$$. The top 2 are Chinese brands. That shows you the power of advertising. For us old guys, there was not much available in the craft or import sector when we were young. I do remember a lot of smaller local breweries, but they either closed down or got bought out. It stands to reason with the vastly bigger selection of beers available today that most old brands are going to take a hit I'll regardless of their quality. I have said for many many years, if I could choose any business to own, it would be an Anheuser-Busch distributorship. Not that I'm looking for free beer or anything! :BEER: http://www.thestreet.com/story/12755706/9/10-best-selling-beer-brands-in-the-world.html
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80,000 Americans are killed by alcohol each year, and we are told that a terrorist is going to kill you in a shopping mall. You are 22 times more likely to be killed by a drunk driver on the way to the mall.
Don't drink and drive/ride.
Climbing off my soap box now.
I like beer, I don't drink bud. I buy many kinds of beer and rarely by the mass produced beer or the same brand or flavor. I have friends and family members that have made some very good stuff. Beer is not just for breakfast.
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80,000 Americans are killed by alcohol each year, and we are told that a terrorist is going to kill you in a shopping mall. You are 22 times more likely to be killed by a drunk driver on the way to the mall.
Where'd you get that statistic?
Because I saw a 2005 NBC article that quoted something from the CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm)which is similar to their current claim of 88k... but they don't back numbers up like the NBC article did and which differs GREATLY from the NHTSA:
The NBC article claimed the CDC was saying almost 40k/year from drunk related car crashes, and NHTSA is saying about 10k.
http://responsibility.org/drunk-driving/drunk-driving-fatalities-national-statistics
2013 stats:
According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) 32,719 people died in traffic crashes in 2013 in the United States (latest figures available), including an estimated 10,076 people who died in drunk driving crashes, accounting for 31% of all traffic deaths that year.
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Where'd you get that statistic?
Because I saw a 2005 NBC article that quoted something from the CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm)which is similar to their current claim of 88k... but they don't back numbers up like the NBC article did and which differs GREATLY from the NHTSA:
The NBC article claimed the CDC was saying almost 40k/year from drunk related car crashes, and NHTSA is saying about 10k.
http://responsibility.org/drunk-driving/drunk-driving-fatalities-national-statistics
2013 stats:
The 80,000 is a rounded number of all alcohol related deaths. Wiki has a page with all terrorist acts, locations, type of action, country, and number of deaths. Less than 3,600 world wide in 2014. I follow the terrorist propaganda because I believe it is a tactic by our elected officials to encourage Americans to give up our freedoms, liberties and civil rights.
Climbing off my soap box again.
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Little known now, but in the '50s the best selling beer in the US was.....Schlitz. This Saturday I plan to put some of these beer choices to the test as I sit at a beach side bar just south of Flagler Beach, Florida......with a bucket of beers and a plate of fresh oysters. Craft beer will be hard to come by but I'll try.
Peter Y.
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The headline reads
56 million people die worldwide every year
The UN reports that 56 million people die every year from ... well ... something .
Dusty
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The headline reads
56 million people die worldwide every year
The UN reports that 56 million people die every year from ... well ... something .
Dusty
Dusty, my point exactly. And most all are from life style choices, not at the hands of other. I hope to die from my life style choices.
Long way from drinking beer topic but not to far from the refrigerator where the cold stuff is. Several flavors and proofs always on hand.
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Little known now, but in the '50s the best selling beer in the US was.....Schlitz. This Saturday I plan to put some of these beer choices to the test as I sit at a beach side bar just south of Flagler Beach, Florida......with a bucket of beers and a plate of fresh oysters. Craft beer will be hard to come by but I'll try.
Peter Y.
First beer I tasted was a Schlitz sitting on my aunts knee. Still like it and buy it often $5.11 for a sixer of 16 oz cans. I like it just fine
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Bud Light...proof you can sell anything.
At one time Falstaff outsold Bud in St. Louis!
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They are making Fall City beer again also. It is a pale ale and is much better than the old formula.
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Was at a beach bar in Florida years back. The waitress came by and said there was someone there from A-B, and he was going to buy everyone a free round of A-B beer. I had a Yuengling.
:BEER:
Unfortunately you probably only had the lager to pick from. Yuengling Premium and Lord Chesterfield ale are both far superior to the lager ;-T.
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I buy Bud Light and Coors Light and they are real good. I will only drink any beer ice cold. If I was wealthy (like some of you), I would buy more of the specialty beers.
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Everyone knows "Good old Blatz is best" At least better than "New Blatz" :BEER:
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About 10 years ago I was a Budweiser drinker, but my taste buds must have changed or the beer changed. Now I am one of the big pussies they are inferring. Don't really give a damn what anyone thinks- I ride a Guzzi- same mind set/ attitude.
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And the truth... would you still drink beer if it had zero alcohol? Petrus Rocks drags me into these craft beer bars...I drink one beer a month and while I can taste the difference, it's all bitter to me..
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...I drink one beer a month...
I think I found your problem. ;D
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Bud is not beer IMHO. It and most other domestic crap in a can is a corn/rice/malt beverage sold via a megahype advertising campaign. I have nothing against the people that like that sort of thing but they shouldn't be allowed to call it beer.
All the big beer conglomerates are buying up craft breweries as soon as they become popular but it seems like another new one pops up for everyone that gets bought out.
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Heck, all beer tastes horrible. :D
You sir, have not tried Newcastle's Brown Ale. Haruuumph.
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Little known now, but in the '50s the best selling beer in the US was.....Schlitz.
Peter Y.
And why not, they invented the pop-top. Remember the Schlitz girl on TV?
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And the truth... would you still drink beer if it had zero alcohol? Petrus Rocks drags me into these craft beer bars...I drink one beer a month and while I can taste the difference, it's all bitter to me..
Fwiw, a lot of craft brewers these days have gone crazy with hops and I ritualistically avoid any IPA (India Pale Ale), APA (American Pale Ale), and often times just plain Pale Ales.
I'm also not a personal fan of a large Portion of Belgian Ales, Saisons, White Ales, or Wheats as they tend to have other flavors, often Citrus or spice.
So that means with the exception of Pilsners which I find nicely balanced with crisp hops that finish instead of lingering in a face contorting burn of sour, that I generally prefer MALTY beers.
Brown ales, ESBs, Maerzens/festbiers, Bocks, Porters, and Stouts.
Guinness is actually a light, creamy, and not bitter beer.
So you MIGHT have better luck with different styles.
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First beer I tasted was a Schlitz sitting on my aunts knee. Still like it and buy it often $5.11 for a sixer of 16 oz cans. I like it just fine
Schlitz is the one beer that women cannot drink at the beach. They always get sand in their Schlitz.
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I read this as I sit here working on a Lienie's big butt dopplebock. I might have to try this with plate of oysters....Bud doesn't get me thinking about such things.....
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unofficial pbr addhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sm8JM-K1dc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sm8JM-K1dc)
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You sir, have not tried Newcastle's Brown Ale. Haruuumph.
I think I have. Have tried so many I lost count, still trying to find one I prefer to a soda (and I am a bit picky about my soft drinks as well :) ).
And, no, I do not want to drink beer when I want alcohol. That's what whiskey is for :) And, no, you don't add anything except branch water to whiskey. Unless you want to get smashed fast, then you drink it straight. :D
PS I did see the subject commercial and I think Budweiser screwed up big time. I still love to watch the Clydesdales and like their sponsored racing teams, but don't want anything to do with their beer products. My wife loves the Stella.
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IPAs Rock! The bitterer the better.
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unofficial pbr addhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sm8JM-K1dc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sm8JM-K1dc)
That's great! I love that movie, and now that scene is even more immortalized. Dig the look on Hopper's face when he's about to enjoy a Pabst.
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80,000 Americans are killed by alcohol each year, and we are told that a terrorist is going to kill you in a shopping mall. You are 22 times more likely to be killed by a drunk driver on the way to the mall.
Don't drink and drive/ride.
Climbing off my soap box now.
I like beer, I don't drink bud. I buy many kinds of beer and rarely by the mass produced beer or the same brand or flavor. I have friends and family members that have made some very good stuff. Beer is not just for breakfast.
slippery slope ;-) guns are also way more likely to kill you than defend you
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Fwiw, a lot of craft brewers these days have gone crazy with hops and I ritualistically avoid any IPA (India Pale Ale), APA (American Pale Ale), and often times just plain Pale Ales.
I'm also not a personal fan of a large Portion of Belgian Ales, Saisons, White Ales, or Wheats as they tend to have other flavors, often Citrus or spice.
So that means with the exception of Pilsners which I find nicely balanced with crisp hops that finish instead of lingering in a face contorting burn of sour, that I generally prefer MALTY beers.
Brown ales, ESBs, Maerzens/festbiers, Bocks, Porters, and Stouts.
Guinness is actually a light, creamy, and not bitter beer.
So you MIGHT have better luck with different styles.
An informative answer to a question I didn't ask ;D I asked " would you (plural) drink beer if it had no alcohol content ? "
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An informative answer to a question I didn't ask ;D I asked " would you (plural) drink beer if it had no alcohol content ? "
True, but I'm kind and offered... :BEER:
Sorry to have skipped your actual question - the answer "duh" ---> :BEER: (that's a yes).
Back in the 90s when I first started working for Chilton I brought in a mini-fridge I kept under my desk. And we'd keep NA beer in there ... a bunch of us would crack them open towards the end of the day.
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I have had NA beer, some good. I'd drink less, but I'd drink it.
I keep trying to convert Rough Edge and show him the possibilities but he is resistant to assimilation.
We were at a nice restaurant in Hammondsport after the bike show at the Curtiss museum.
He says pick something out for me- I order Conways irish ale, mellow and malty for him. He says oh, I like that.
His wife tastes it and says I like the skunky taste. I taste it- it has soured in the lines- bad beer.
Tony would drink a Bud same as anything else- just once a month.
I had 3 beers at lunch and my wife called me piggy :BEER:
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I have had NA beer, some good. I'd drink less, but I'd drink it.
I keep trying to convert Rough Edge and show him the possibilities but he is resistant to assimilation.
We were at a nice restaurant in Hammondsport after the bike show at the Curtiss museum.
He says pick something out for me- I order Conways irish ale, mellow and malty for him. He says oh, I like that.
His wife tastes it and says I like the skunky taste. I taste it- it has soured in the lines- bad beer.
Tony would drink a Bud same as anything else- just once a month.
I had 3 beers at lunch and my wife called me piggy :BEER:
Yup,even the Borg can't assimilate me...But I do like hanging in the bar with you once a month and drinking my one beer ;-T
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And why not, they invented the pop-top. Remember the Schlitz girl on TV?
Wrong. ;) In 1962 Pittsburgh Brewing Co. (Iron City Beer) teamed up with Alcoa to introduce the first snap top beer can.
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Actually an independent tool designer named Ermal Fraze invented the "zip top" and sold the rights bto Alcoa.
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Actually an independent tool designer named Ermal Fraze invented the "zip top" and sold the rights bto Alcoa.
I wish that guy had to police up all the pop tops that I had to do in my first couple of jobs in the 60s and early 70s. I probably picked up 20,000 of the things in the state park and the town streets.
The REAL genius is the guy who invented the one that stays with the can!
Lannis
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it's all bitter to me..
IMO, the best beers have a bitter finish.
My "perfect beer" -- as yet unfound, but I will search tirelessly until I can't lift a glass :BEER: -- would be one with a seriously hoppy start and a pronounced bitter finish. I don't care for "floral notes," etc., that comes with many IPA's.
You sir have obviously never tasted Theakston's old Peculiar hand pumped by a buxom wench straight from the oak barrel barrel.
https://www.theakstons.co.uk/Ales/Old-Peculier/
I am not, of course, inflexible, so I am willing to negotiate on the hops, notes, and finish for certain ambiance such as described above. :D
I wish that guy had to police up all the pop tops that I had to do in my first couple of jobs in the 60s and early 70s. I probably picked up 20,000 of the things in the state park and the town streets.
The REAL genius is the guy who invented the one that stays with the can!
Lannis
EXACTLY.
Bill
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Oddly enough the "Stay Tab" can was also introduced by Falls City.
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When I drank, and drank beer, I was overseas and enjoyed Panama Beer and Tuborg. When I returned to the States and tried Tuborg it was a horrible shadow of the brew I previously preferred.
Never cared for Bud at all but drank Miller occasionally when fishing. PBR was what my Harley buddies drank in the '80s. Heineken was popular but didn't care for it, same for Michelob.
Then there was:
(http://robsbeercans.com/images/FR508.JPG)
Just because.
Tobit
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Then there was:
(http://robsbeercans.com/images/FR508.JPG)
Tobit
ah, yes, the pale, stale ale with the foam on the bottom. ;D another Pittsburgh Brewing product.
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Funny thing, though. The parent company has recently been purchasing microbreweries and is trying to purchase many more.
Compounded irony - the local victim or beneficiary, however you see it, of this acquisition strategy was Elysian, a pretty respectable brewery with a decent line of bottled brews as well as a couple pubs where you could get a "cask conditioned" ale (try that if you get a chance.) Anyway, their flagship ale was their Immortal IPA, but now what's looking like it might really immortal is the campaign for their "Loser"
(http://brewpublic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Corporate-Beer-Still-Sucks-Loser-by-Elysian-Brewing.jpg)
This is now a product of the largest corporate beer ever.
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If thy can sell Bud Light they can sell anything.
Kind of like the HD marketers. Dont sell the product, sell the image.
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My all time favorite bud commercial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t11FRr09EY
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:D ROFL
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Nothing like being at Busch Stadium, watching the Cardinals, and during the stretch, they play the Budweiser Clydesdale theme.
awesome. one of the great moments of "sports".
Then in the top of the 9th, the Cards make a double play look like ballet and THE CARDS WIN!
ohhhh yeah........... ;-T ;-T ;-T ;-T ;-T ;-T ;-T ;-T ;-T ;-T ;-T ;-T
but I have to say, PBR rocks it. :BEER: :BEER: :BEER: :BEER: :BEER: :BEER: :BEER:
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This blog has a panoply of awful ads from *Forever*. The beer/booze ones are particularly amusing. They are all warped though.
http://lileks.tumblr.com
Pete
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It also has no f***ing end.
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No need to read it all Jim. I dip in from time to time when I need my spirits lifted! ;D
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Man, that brings back some memories.
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No need to read it all Jim. I dip in from time to time when I need my spirits lifted! ;D
You can't read it all. I fast forward scrolled to what looked like the end and it instantly began generating more at high speed.
It is an infinity blog.
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You can't read it all. I fast forward scrolled to what looked like the end and it instantly began generating more at high speed.
It is an infinity blog.
Is that like an improbability drive ?
Dusty
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Bud is best enjoyed when your 18, out in the middle of a shade tobacco field, ice cold out of a keg, on a hot muggy August night.
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Wrong. ;) In 1962 Pittsburgh Brewing Co. (Iron City Beer) teamed up with Alcoa to introduce the first snap top beer can.
Great, I wonder what else I've been wrong about for half a century?
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I don't think you were wrong. There is a difference in who invented something and who first mass markets it.
Remember the movie about the intermittent windshield wiper control? Guy who invented it was 'ignored' forever until the movie thing was done.
Who invented the carburetor and who first mass produced it? Fuel pump? etc, etc, etc.
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No, he had it wrong, but I believe from misinformation.
Many times credit for something goes to the wrong person.
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No, he had it wrong, but I believe from misinformation.
Many times credit for something goes to the wrong person.
I know that's right. I invented the internet, but Al Gore got the credit! :BEER:
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One of the great things about Bike Week besides the bikes is you can get both Bud and Busch. Such a deal. :BEER:
Pete
Don't see much Bushes anymore!
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Because of all the Brazilions?
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Because of all the Brazilions?
How much is a Brazillion :o ;D
Dusty
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Shiner. Nothing else needs to be said.
Tex
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Is a Shiner the result from a Hawaiian Punch?
I likes me some Shiner Bohemian Black Lager.
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They are making Fall City beer again also. It is a pale ale and is much better than the old formula.
For years, Falls City was just Iron City Light in a different can. Must be better now, couldn't be any worse. ;D