Wildguzzi.com
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: coastdude on March 16, 2015, 02:50:53 AM
-
I've noticed during some rides but not all, that I lose all feeling to my penis. I don't want to blame it on my new V7 as it happened once or twice on my old bike too (ducati). I was puzzling over it yesterday when I got home (yes, I'll be there soon darling) and think it might be caused by a big fat seam in the terminal (under ass) part of my "bargain" kevlar jeans. Has this happened to anyone else?
-
Dude .... talk to your doctor...... NOW.
Thinking about it, a full day in the saddle sometimes makes my legs go a bit numb, but "Little Griso" has never been affected ::)
-
So did the numbness occur before you bought the kevlar jeans?
As WB stated go to the doc and get checked, if you are over 45 it may be your prostate telling you to get up........ ;-T
-
Here's a case of a different nature: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/man-sues-bmw-alleging-motorcycle-seat-gave-him-010902532.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/man-sues-bmw-alleging-motorcycle-seat-gave-him-010902532.html)
-
I have had it happen on a bicycle but never a motorcycle.
-
Is this thread real? Did I actually read this? Numb John Thomas from a Guzzi? Yes?
I'll come back after Dusty has posted. That'll make it real.
-
It's not really a problem until his wife agrees.
-
if I have an erection lasting over 4 houurs, someone else is going to need medical attention....
-
if I have an erection lasting over 4 houurs, someone else is going to need medical attention....
+1 ;D
-
TMI!
-
I have had it happen on a bicycle but never a motorcycle.
When I first saw the post I was sure this was one of those penis size is inversely proportional to the amount of noise but......Bicycle yes and can't remember a problem on the motorcycle. :BEER:
Matt
-
I'd try a ride in some other jeans. It's not rocket science.. ;D
-
Yes, it is rocket science.
-
"I've got a rocket in my pocket.." ;D
-
What? no comments from Dusty OR Lannis, Hmmmmmmm........... ................... ................... ............. ;D
-
Take it very seriously. It could be the start of a very serious condition. Look up *cyclist syndrome*, pudendal neuralgia, pudendal neuropothy, or PNE. That numbness could be a warning sign or not? Good luck.
-
Take it very seriously. It could be the start of a very serious condition. Look up *cyclist syndrome*, pudendal neuralgia, pudendal neuropothy, or PNE. That numbness could be a warning sign or not? Good luck.
A diagnosis of PUDendal neuropothy from a guy named Dick, the plot thickens.
-
A diagnosis of PUDendal neuropothy from a guy named Dick, the plot thickens.
Ha-ha ;D
-
A diagnosis of PUDendal neuropothy from a guy named Dick, the plot thickens.
:pop
-
A diagnosis of PUDendal neuropothy from a guy named Dick, the plot thickens.
You can't make this $yht up.
Dean
-
Hey, I'm just trying to give the guy a heads up. :D ;D
-
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
-
Being sensible for a moment it does sound as if it might be potentially serious. Prostate problems are not to be sneered at. Have you had the old 'Finger up the Chuff' examination? No, it is a bit undignified and it's certainly not enjoyable but it's better than not knowing. If there is any suspicion that something is amiss it'll be time to go and get the 'Big Black Snake' stuffed up yer blurter. Also undignified but really completely painless as long as you have yourself sedated. The worst part is being nailed to the dunny for half a day or night before the proceedure!
Pete
-
I assumed this was just another WG caught cheating thread.
-
Have you had the old 'Finger up the Chuff' examination?
Pete
That would be goose content
-
Really I wasn't "poking fun" at this subject at all. I've had my yearly prostrate exam every year for quite some time. It's no big deal. But it is a procedure I'm happy to have behind me ;D
-
Between the chuff, guff, and other stuff, I'd try the different pants first. Is it only after you ride? if you sit in the office chair all day does it stand at attention? The positive out of this is that your wife comes calling. I only thought that happened in the movies. :'(
-
Yes it can happen.
Just like your hand or thumb can lose feeling while riding. You have to re adjust your self so you are not sitting on a nerve. That is the cause of your foot "going to sleep" ,you have pinched a nerve. It may be your seating position or too tight clothing that is applying pressure to a nerve. :'(
Make sure your clothing is loose and not constrictive in that area while on the bike. you must feel "free" comfortable or it can happen. ;D
By the my Prostate is fine but I have experienced this and if i stop and readjust my junk all is fine. ;-T
micky
Can't believe this thread but I'm in. :o
-
??? :o :D ??? :o :D ??? :o :D
Damn , come home to eat an early lunch and you guys are talking about Willies :o
Dusty
-
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/crotch%20guzzis_zpsjzziyy5b.jpg)
Maybe you need more room!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/guzzi%20helmet%20seat_zpsy73hqvem.jpg)
-
I used to have this happen on my bicycle a lot, I changed the saddle to one with a cutout and a the problem disappeared.
Hmm, I wonder if this only happens on Italian motorcycles?
-
Yer just gittin old.
-
I don't mean to pick a bone here, but "paralysis" means a loss of muscle function, when the muscle doesn't respond to nerve impulses, or the impulses don't reach it. The human penis has a tissue called corpus cavernosum, which becomes blood filled during erection, but it is not a muscle in the common sense, although it may be developmentally derived from muscle. So, the term paralysis doesn't apply here. The inability to become erect can have many causes, both physical and psychological. In any case, the original poster here describes numbness, not paralysis. Penile numbness is well known among cyclists, and apparently is a temporary condition. More serious is injury caused by one's crotch hitting the top of the bicycle frame during a accident. This can cause permanent dysfunction. Don't let it happen to you!
-
Certainly a well known problem for cyclists. I have always used a saddle with a cut-out and have never had that problem.
Have never had the problem with the Breva seat. I have always had a sheepskin on it; don't know if that makes a difference.
I would concur with the others; get it checked out pronto.
-
should this be combined with the drooping centerstand thread?
-
When bicycling, it can be avoided by getting off the saddle once in a while, like when climbing hills or accelerating, or just randomly. When riding a motorcycle, I'd bet it can be avoided similarly, by partially standing for a few seconds periodically. Going to a seat that puts less pressure in the center of the anatomy would probably be a better cure.
-
I just got back from a fast ride on my 70 Triumph,bike that vibrates. My ass was tingling but not my johnson..I suppose it depends on seating position ,if you're hunched over with your ass high in the air you might be dick sitting.
-
Notice the schematic of the nerve bundle that feeds the dorsal nerve of the penis. If you are saying that ONLY your penis is lacking sensation then the compression of the nerve has to occur after the dorsal nerve bifurcates from posterior scrotal nerves, the superficial perineal nerves and the
deep perineal nerves. But is anything else loosing sensation? My money would be on the distal aspect of the pelvis might be compressing the nerve just before it enters the penis. It might be due to how you are sitting + your anatomy and or your cloths contributing to the compression. How quickly does your sensation return? And does it return like the tingling prickly (no pun intended) feeling we have when say our foot or leg falls asleep from laying a certain way? What would concern me is if you were on a long ride and not conscious of the lack of sensation. If this nerve root is compressed long enough it could reduce O2 and blood flow.
Unless there is a medical condition maybe you have to look at it as a mechanical problem.
(http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t652/redrider901/Screen%20Shot%202015-03-16%20at%202.23.41%20PM_zpsa3xfcpke.png) (http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/redrider901/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-03-16%20at%202.23.41%20PM_zpsa3xfcpke.png.html)
-
Well that explains it all. ??? :BEER:
Matt
-
Thanks for all your advice, I'll start by wearing some different pants next time I go out. That diagram reinforces what I suspected about lots of nerve endings in that region. You'll be glad to know that the numbness vanishes pretty quickly once I get off the bike. Its been pretty disconcerting to go to adjust myself while riding and finding...nothing! The first time it happened I shook my pants leg carefully not knowing what might fall out.
-
Good for you Dude :D , None of us want things falling off. Let us know how you get on ;-T
-
Shouldn't Rocker merge this with the drooping center stand thread?
I kid... I kid... Hope you resolve the issue. It doesn't sound pleasant.
-
PNE can occur as a result of motorcycle riding, although it is much more common (or at least, gets a lot more attention) as a result of bicycling.
AFAIK, Saddleman is the only seat manufacturer to address this problem. They have a line of "Sport Style" "Channel" seats, with a recessed channel in the center to relieve pressure on your junk.
(http://www.saddlemen.com/image/cache/data/product/0810-0817-800x800.jpg)
Of course, they make nothing for any model Moto Guzzi.
Most of the aftermarket seat makers, like Corbin, Sargent, and Saddleman, state that they will make custom saddles for customers who are not satisfied with their off-the shelf products. Maybe one of them could make something tailored to your needs?
-
There is a horse saddle design, the "McClennan" that was developed about 150 years ago for the US Cavalry. It had that same relief feature, but no padding. When we were kids we thought the slot was a grab handle to climb up on the horse with.
-
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/nuts_zps7nfaty5j.jpg)
:D
-
I have the same problem on my BMW R9T. Only bike I have ever had an issue with. I would try to fix it, but it feels so good when the blood starts circulating again.
-
There is a horse saddle design, the "McClennan" that was developed about 150 years ago for the US Cavalry. It had that same relief feature, but no padding. When we were kids we thought the slot was a grab handle to climb up on the horse with.
I think you mean the "McClellan," RK. Named for its advocate within the US Cavalry, Gen. George B. McClellan.
A lot of choices to relieve PNE among aftermarket bicycle seats. Example:
(http://www.derriair.com/images/49453.jpg)
-
Yes, I did -- and I spelt it so. It's that damn auto-correct. I shut it off. :-[
-
LOL. Autocorrect cracks me up. WTH is a "Mcclennan?"
-
McClellan saddle
(http://p1.la-img.com/368/18580/6276549_2_l.jpg)
-
I have had it happen a couple of times last year. It's very strange to have something you know so well all of a sudden become totally numb. In my case it only lasted a few minutes. From what I have read it has something to do with The nerves in that area. Changing the saddle and or the clothing you wear may have a big impact.
-
Underwear and pants make a big difference. My "privates" get numb with certain combinations, but the main factor for me is the forward slopping seat. Butt slides forward, pants stay in place, things get snug (and numb). Again, the right pants can really help the situation. But, I'm going to get the seat modified. I have no problem with flat seats.
-
Airhawk makes a cushion that might help the problem:
http://www.airhawk.net/airhawk-r.aspx
-
The McClellan saddle also allows you to fart without having to rise up in the stirrups.
Very few motorcycle saddles allow this.
-
You would have no ah prroblem were you Scottish!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/molded%20seat_zpskoec7e4a.jpg)
;)
-
Looks like my idiot brother! ;D
-
Thanks for all your advice, I'll start by wearing some different pants next time I go out. That diagram reinforces what I suspected about lots of nerve endings in that region. You'll be glad to know that the numbness vanishes pretty quickly once I get off the bike. Its been pretty disconcerting to go to adjust myself while riding and finding...nothing! The first time it happened I shook my pants leg carefully not knowing what might fall out.
First, print out this entire thread. Then, go ride your motorcycle with nothing on from the waist down....boots OK. See if that helps or gives you a clue.
IF you are pulled over just show him (or her) the print-out of this thread and he/she will realize you are involved in a scientific (if not humanitarian) experiment. Trust me; I have a nephew who is a cop and he assures me you'll be fine as long as you can produce license and registration as well.
-
McClellan saddle
(http://p1.la-img.com/368/18580/6276549_2_l.jpg)
Was that thing named after "George" McClellan? Seems a little strange. According to US civil war history, he_had_no balls.
-
I don't mean to pick a bone here, but "paralysis" means a loss of muscle function, when the muscle doesn't respond to nerve impulses, or the impulses don't reach it. The human penis has a tissue called corpus cavernosum, which becomes blood filled during erection, but it is not a muscle in the common sense, although it may be developmentally derived from muscle. So, the term paralysis doesn't apply here. The inability to become erect can have many causes, both physical and psychological. In any case, the original poster here describes numbness, not paralysis. Penile numbness is well known among cyclists, and apparently is a temporary condition. More serious is injury caused by one's crotch hitting the top of the bicycle frame during a accident. This can cause permanent dysfunction. Don't let it happen to you!
Actually what he describes is paresthesia which is loss of sensation. Now when it comes to the penis if one looses there sensation the organ will also not work. How can you get up if you cannot feel it? Unless of course you vacuum it full of blood and then seal it off with a rubber band which is what some poor dudes have to do. It is true that is is not a muscle but it still requires blood flow and sensation to function.
-
Airhawk makes a cushion that might help the problem:
http://www.airhawk.net/airhawk-r.aspx
Forgot about the AirHawk R. Good suggestion!
(http://www.airhawk.net/userfiles/com.airhawk/image/Airhawk%20R_black%20back_shadow210.jpg)
FWIW, on my EV I use an AirHawk Medium Cruiser pad (without the scrotum cut-away /prostate channel / tailbone taper), and I like it.
-
Coast,
Be sure you have room for your dangley bits. Seat should be big enough.
Shift your riding position once in a while, put weight on feet on pegs.
Loose clothing helps.
Yep, can be big issue with bicycles. Hurt myself on a stationary bike last year.
Take it serious. Pay attention to your body.
-
Was that thing named after "George" McClellan? Seems a little strange. According to US civil war history, he_had_no balls.
Cue lecture on Civil war history from Bill which will be entertaining! :D
Pete
-
Numb nuts?
-
Was that thing named after "George" McClellan? Seems a little strange. According to US civil war history, he_had_no balls.
One story is early in the conflict McClellan refused to engage in battle despite have a far larger fighting force. He just kept saying "I need more men".
And advice for a sore or numb dick? Don't screw with it....
-
Ah yes, seats that look like vaginas for men. Makes sense to me. Privy marketing. ;-T
-
PNE can occur as a result of motorcycle riding, although it is much more common (or at least, gets a lot more attention) as a result of bicycling.
AFAIK, Saddleman is the only seat manufacturer to address this problem. They have a line of "Sport Style" "Channel" seats, with a recessed channel in the center to relieve pressure on your junk.
(http://www.saddlemen.com/image/cache/data/product/0810-0817-800x800.jpg)
Of course, they make nothing for any model Moto Guzzi.
Most of the aftermarket seat makers, like Corbin, Sargent, and Saddleman, state that they will make custom saddles for customers who are not satisfied with their off-the shelf products. Maybe one of them could make something tailored to your needs?
I always called those things "Fart Channels" . . . . I learn something everytime I log onto this forum. :)
-
Yet again my hopes are trampled into small bits and then dashed into the wind as disappointment leaps upon me from curve to curve. The last thing I expected to find when clicking on this thread is an actual discussion of the literal topic.
-
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Thanks Bipper ;D
Dusty
-
Do what it takes to take care of yourself. Not to make light of this, but my favorite quote is from an Italian of course! ;D
"Who are these Norwegians? I've often been on a saddle for over 350 kilometers at a time. If, the minute I get off the saddle, they tell me 'Alfredo, do it,' I will do it"
ALFREDO MARTINI, trainer of ItaZv's national cycling team, on a study by Norwegian researchers that
found that bicycle seats cause temporary impotence.
...Newsweek: December 28, 1992
-
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Thanks Bipper ;D
Dusty
Yr welcome. And to this let me ask, who is this Monkey fellow and why is he now attacking not just our butt but also apparently, our balls as well? And we let this continue? Are we not men? Gentlemen, I and James Brown implore you, do not let this ape affliction keep you down. Get on up, stay on the scene.
-
Do what it takes to take care of yourself. Not to make light of this, but my favorite quote is from an Italian of course! ;D
"Who are these Norwegians? I've often been on a saddle for over 350 kilometers at a time. If, the minute I get off the saddle, they tell me 'Alfredo, do it,' I will do it"
ALFREDO MARTINI, trainer of ItaZv's national cycling team, on a study by Norwegian researchers that
found that bicycle seats cause temporary impotence.
...Newsweek: December 28, 1992
Dude... that is hilarious!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
At age 78, I am unaffected by such bothers.
Ralph
-
After a long ride, using a Hot water bottle can relax cramped or shriveled muscles and get the blood flowing again.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/spotted-dick_zpsmaxlqmeo.jpg)
Could be time to see the Doctor.
-
You would have no ah prroblem were you Scottish!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/molded%20seat_zpskoec7e4a.jpg)
;)
Just make sure that in a dark pub, it's not the ladies version that your about to sit on.
Tobit
-
Eureka! Made myself a sheepskin seat cover and problem is gone. Still should get that prostrate checked out though...
-
Again......See a doctor, no volunteers here :D
Good luck CoastDude.
-
http://www.amspecialtiesusa.com/
another possibility. I think these are the guys that used to make a sheep skin covered gel seat I have and love.
-
"It's a question about blood flow." ::)
-
Get on up now :D Well , maybe not while going down the road ;D
Dusty
Indeed ;-T
"It's a question about blood flow." ::)
See answer above. You want all of your blood flowing to your nogging while driving. Other places can be distracting. :o
-
Indeed ;-T
See answer above. You want all of your blood flowing to your nogging while driving. Other places can be distracting. :o
That is the noggin if below 30 yrs old. Spoil thy loin.