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Appears to be a beautiful Beech 18. Heard the sound and grabbed the camera.
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww107/jpeters16/f186b4c8-bdd1-43d3-a88f-089b0e559abe.jpg) (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/jpeters16/media/f186b4c8-bdd1-43d3-a88f-089b0e559abe.jpg.html)
http://www.thekansan.com/article/20150329/NEWS/150329361
GliderJohn
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Amelia is alive!!!!!!!!!!!
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Amelia is alive!!!!!!!!!!!
What I thought! I think Amelia's plane was a Lockheed Electra (or was it a Vega?) but it reminds one of that historical plane. Thanks for posting GliderJohn.
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Lockheed. She was a terrible pilot, btw.. ~;
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Those are lovely fliers. Light and delicate on the controls. You wouldn't think so by looking at them, but they're sweet.. ;-T
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Cause you watched the movie? :D :D :D
Twin Beech's are neat planes.
I used to feel sad every time I would drive by the Globe, AZ airport. There was a twin beech that got parked there in the 60's. Over time more and more stuff was taken off of it until only a partial fuselage was left. Sad.
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Cause you watched the movie? :D :D :D
Twin Beech's are neat planes.
There was a movie ??? Gotta get out more :D
Dusty
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Quote from oldbike54:
Great pic John , does Beechcraft still have a facility in Wichita , and could there be a connection ?
They are still produced in Wichita but owned by Textron which also owns Cessna now. They still seem to turn out good aircraft but it is not like the old days of Walter and Olive Ann Beech when they supposedly knew most of their employees by sight and name. Both were quite interesting folk from what I have heard and read. Would love to have a Staggerwing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_Model_17_Staggerwing
GliderJohn
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http://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?s-type=aircraft&make=Beechcraft&model_group=Beech+18+Series&s-seq=4&s-lvl=0
here ya go: $90k - $360k............ $18k for a Basket case <shrug> (Chuck? ~; ~; ~; ~; ~; ~; ~;)
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Quote from oldbike54:
Beech made some beautiful A/C , that one is lovely . Any idea what one in service condition is worth now ?
No, not without researching it but I would guess multiple times more than I could afford plus I would guess operating costs are fairly high. The one I pictured looks to be in excellent condition so I would guess top dollar.
GliderJohn
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Great picture. I like how you captured the props...
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Quote from Spuddy:
Great picture. I like how you captured the props...
I recently bought my first SLR camera. I was using a 300mm lens along with digital zoom. The camera was set on auto, so nothing I did. Just scratching the surface on learning how to use this thing.
GliderJohn
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http://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?s-type=aircraft&make=Beechcraft&model_group=Beech+18+Series&s-seq=4&s-lvl=0
here ya go: $90k - $360k............ $18k for a Basket case <shrug> (Chuck? ~; ~; ~; ~; ~; ~; ~;)
If you have ask ;D Actually the question was re the stagger wing bi plane . Although showing up at a camp out in a Beech 18 would make a splash :D
Dusty
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Caught these with my 8 year old pocket point and shoot.
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww107/jpeters16/DSCN0189.jpg) (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/jpeters16/media/DSCN0189.jpg.html)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww107/jpeters16/DSCN0192.jpg) (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/jpeters16/media/DSCN0192.jpg.html)
GliderJohn
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way back in the day when I was in A&P school several of the students were pilots. We rented a plane in morning, flew to LaCrosse Wi. On the way back to Winona a Beech 18 was traveling east at a high closing speed. She had been converted to turbines. Oh what a site, close, fast and quiet. It made an impression on me.
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Quote from oldbike54:
They are still produced in Wichita but owned by Textron which also owns Cessna now. They still seem to turn out good aircraft but it is not like the old days of Walter and Olive Ann Beech when they supposedly knew most of their employees by sight and name. Both were quite interesting folk from what I have heard and read. Would love to have a Staggerwing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_Model_17_Staggerwing
GliderJohn
I think most sane people would love to have a Staggerwing. I keep thinking the Army will discover a stash of them left from WW2 one of these days and stage a surplus sale complete with brawls and all sorts of fun!
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I had a 1968 Beech "Musketeer 150" from 1973-75 when I lived in walking distance to Santa Monica Airport. I think Amelia (who by all accounts WAS a lousy pilot) first flew her Kinner "Canary" from this airport when it was called "Clover Field). My Beech Musketeer was much like a Guzzi of the day; not fast but very sturdy, comfortable and reliable. It was a dandy plane, but was not of sufficient power or IFR capability to be flown in the Los Angeles area.
Ralph
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Appears to be a beautiful Beech 18. Heard the sound and grabbed the camera.
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww107/jpeters16/f186b4c8-bdd1-43d3-a88f-089b0e559abe.jpg) (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/jpeters16/media/f186b4c8-bdd1-43d3-a88f-089b0e559abe.jpg.html)
GliderJohn
"Victor Laszlo is on that plane!"
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I think most sane people would love to have a Staggerwing. I keep thinking the Army will discover a stash of them left from WW2 one of these days and stage a surplus sale complete with brawls and all sorts of fun!
Back in the day, I thought when I hit the big time, I'd rebuild a Staggerwing. I could have my traveling airplane and antique all in one ship. Then, I saw one uncovered, saw the miles of bicycle chain and brazillion parts that make one up, thought, "Never mind.." ;D
Now, fuel cost has me almost out of flying, not to mention what a 450 Pratt would burn.
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Appears to be a beautiful Beech 18.
John, as you likely know, there are a few 18s based out of Dead Cow International. For many years, there was a daily run in the evening by an 18 coming from the west--I believe it was a check-hauling airplane. Considering that people don't write so many checks anymore, I'm not so sure if that flight is still happening.
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Quote from Daniel Kalal:
John, as you likely know, there are a few 18s based out of Dead Cow International. For many years, there was a daily run in the evening by an 18 coming from the west--I believe it was a check-hauling airplane. Considering that people don't write so many checks anymore, I'm not so sure if that flight is still happening.
Kind of surprised someone would use an 18 for that job as I would think there would be other aircraft that would be considerably more efficient, but it would be doing it with class.
I live just six mile north and a mile west of the Newton airport and a lot of aircraft use it for touch and goes and other training purposes as the 18 I photographed made several pattern runs. Had not seen that specific one before and it looks showroom perfect. Don't know if it was from the Wichita area. Love observing them all when I am working outside.
GliderJohn
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Quote from Daniel Kalal:
Kind of surprised someone would use an 18 for that job as...
Yeah, but Beech made many thousands of those things up until around 1970 so the entry price wouldn't be that high for a scruffy one with time left on the engines. Compared to a new 208, the 18 might be your cheap route into the light cargo business.
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Good point Daniel as you could by a lot fuel and oil for the purchase price difference plus the 18 sounds so much nicer than a 208 would. ;D
GliderJohn
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This on is on floats in Campbell River, BC.
(http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q692/2jabam3/DSC_0562_zpsac6049e7.jpg) (http://s1354.photobucket.com/user/2jabam3/media/DSC_0562_zpsac6049e7.jpg.html)
:BEER:
Matt
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Back in the day, I thought when I hit the big time, I'd rebuild a Staggerwing. I could have my traveling airplane and antique all in one ship. Then, I saw one uncovered, saw the miles of bicycle chain and brazillion parts that make one up, thought, "Never mind.." ;D
Now, fuel cost has me almost out of flying, not to mention what a 450 Pratt would burn.
That is why you need one of these: http://griffonaerospace.com/uav-systems/lionheart/#!prettyPhoto
Takes all of the "miles of bicycle chain and brazillion parts" AND the struts out of the equation!!! You would however, still need to figure out how to afford the fuel.... ;D
Regards,
Jeff
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yes, about 1958-1960 they used to haul checks when they were a cheap outfit. Purchase price was cheap with worn out R985s. The check flying contractors would buy up a few of these worn out wonders and hire kids who were building time to fly them. Several pilots met a bad end in these things. Just like now it is all about cutting corners to make a buck. Then they got hit with the AD note where they had to have their main spar X-rayed every so often and that cost put them out of the air cash flow wise. I know of one around the Selkirk Manitoba area on floats that is still in use. Can't see how they can make any money with it unless the Canadian government is subsidizing them to fly stuff to the remote native villages.
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"6 full size 170 lb passengers"
Maybe in 1960! When I did my tandem parachute jump they did not take your word for your weight, they put you on the scale.
GliderJohn
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"6 full size 170 lb passengers" ::) ;D
Dusty
Okay, okay....or FOUR full-sized Guzzistis!!! :o
Regards,
Jeff
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(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5582/14432626525_c62d6103af_o.jpg)
Faster camera shutter needed.
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That is why you need one of these: http://griffonaerospace.com/uav-systems/lionheart/#!prettyPhoto
Takes all of the "miles of bicycle chain and brazillion parts" AND the struts out of the equation!!! You would however, still need to figure out how to afford the fuel.... ;D
Regards,
Jeff
Friends don't let friends fly plastic airplanes. ;D :BEER:
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Thanks gliderjohn, I always loved the Beech 18 ever since I saw it in "It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world". Lord do I love the sound of radial engines. along with Merlins
Dad had a Bonanza and a Baron for many years. which I washed - of course
(http://impdb.org/images/0/0d/MWB18-1.jpg)
I don't think I could afford the gas for a Beechcraft 18. I remember Dad's 414 Ram used 18 gal per hour per side. $ 220 or so per hour.
(http://yachtsaircrafts.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/1980-cessna-414a-chancellor-iii-1.jpg)
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Nothing like the sound of a radial engine.
I watched the Hawaii Mars fly over where I was working a few years ago when it was down fighting the La Brea fire in SoCal. The rumble that thing made was biblical, and it was amazing how slow it was for how loud it was.
(http://www.fotothing.com/photos/54a/54ac5a9916af30888bae56b19b729a96.jpg)
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Or the Texas Turnip and his petite wife the Beaver :D Of course the plane might fly kind of low on one side :o ;D
Dusty
The Turnip got married.........aga in? ??? Another Texas tale.
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I had a 1968 Beech "Musketeer 150" from 1973-75 when I lived in walking distance to Santa Monica Airport. I think Amelia (who by all accounts WAS a lousy pilot) first flew her Kinner "Canary" from this airport when it was called "Clover Field). My Beech Musketeer was much like a Guzzi of the day; not fast but very sturdy, comfortable and reliable. It was a dandy plane, but was not of sufficient power or IFR capability to be flown in the Los Angeles area.
Ralph
Cool man! I do a lot of training in my Be 23. N4000M. I fly it out to Prescott Az. On occasion to visit my parents. A good solid slooooowww aircraft. Took it to Anaheim, Orange County, and Half Moon bay too. It's a good plane!
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Guess I don't know crap about plane IDs. This Electra was restored six mile from my house and the local paper recently printed this article. Quite a history!
http://www.thekansan.com/article/20150329/NEWS/150329361
GliderJohn
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Thanks gliderjohn, I always loved the Beech 18 ever since I saw it in "It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world". Lord do I love the sound of radial engines. along with Merlins
Dad had a Bonanza and a Baron for many years. which I washed - of course
(http://impdb.org/images/0/0d/MWB18-1.jpg)
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Funny.
All this time, I thought that Sky King flew a Beech 18.
This thread caused me to look up Sky King (and Penny ;))
Wasn't so.
It was one of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_AT-17_Bobcat
I'm now seriously worried about the rest of my memory. ::)
More here ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_King
Gotta love youtube ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0KEblrgf0g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5-18MR8aZs
Bill
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Thanks Bill. :BEER:
Matt
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Anyone else a fan of Ron Cole?
It's sad and tragic, but I can't help but admire his depiction of the last moments of Earhart's flight.
(http://www.warbirdsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/Electra-4-LR.jpg)
http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/aviation-artist-ron-coles-amelia-earharts-electra.html
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I like charts!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/us-air-force-aircraft-identification-chart1_zpsf5y5z56m.jpg)
Check out whats overhead with this tracking map! http://emergency.airlive.net/
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Funny.
All this time, I thought that Sky King flew a Beech 18.
Bill
Bill -
Your memory is worse than you thought. You're getting Sky King, hero of the New American West, mixed up with Kamal Khan, exiled Afghan prince, who hooked up with Octopussy and General Orlov to upset the world. Kamal Khan flew a Beech 18 .....
Lannis
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Guess I don't know crap about plane IDs. This Electra was restored six mile from my house and the local paper recently printed this article. Quite a history!
http://www.thekansan.com/article/20150329/NEWS/150329361
GliderJohn
"The plane will be flown back to Czechoslovakia"
That would be an amazing flight for sure......!
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Google Ann Pellegreno.. nice gal and a *real* pilot. ;D She still hangs out at antique fly ins with her husband Don.
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Anyone else a fan of Ron Cole?
It's sad and tragic, but I can't help but admire his depiction of the last moments of Earhart's flight.
(http://www.warbirdsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/Electra-4-LR.jpg)
http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/aviation-artist-ron-coles-amelia-earharts-electra.html
Would have been interesting and a touch more moving and doleful to have depicted the belly damage and ultimate dooming nature of that antennae having been ripped off on her last take-off.
Todd.