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Title: Small block throwout bearing
Post by: kevdog3019 on March 28, 2015, 11:16:29 AM

ANyone pull the bearing in their small block without disassembling the swingarm?  Is there room to simply take the clutch arm off and pull it out?
TIA

Title: Re: Small block throwout bearing
Post by: mtiberio on March 28, 2015, 06:05:15 PM

I sincerely doubt it, there is barely room to adjust it. Removing the swingarm is easy, and you get to lube splines while your at it. pull the swinger...

Title: Re: Small block throwout bearing
Post by: Dimples on March 28, 2015, 07:11:14 PM

Nope. No way.

Title: Re: Small block throwout bearing
Post by: kevdog3019 on March 28, 2015, 08:06:25 PM

Already did it.  Not much trouble if you lay on your back and have a long handled needle-nose with bent tips and long thin fngers.  Races/bearings looked good. 

Title: Re: Small block throwout bearing
Post by: kevdog3019 on March 28, 2015, 08:33:01 PM

Question: 
While using a magnet to extract the inner bearing race, the magnet found the inner pushrod and pulled it from its recess.  I did not pull it out and upon extracting the race, pushed it back in.  All seems well, but did I possibly disturb anything by having the iner pushrod pull out slightly from within?

Title: Re: Small block throwout bearing
Post by: Muzz on March 29, 2015, 02:22:35 AM

Quote from: kevdog3019 on March 28, 2015, 08:33:01 PM

Question: 
While using a magnet to extract the inner bearing race, the magnet found the inner pushrod and pulled it from its recess.  I did not pull it out and upon extracting the race, pushed it back in.  All seems well, but did I possibly disturb anything by having the iner pushrod pull out slightly from within?

From my (admittedly rusty) memory, no.

Title: Re: Small block throwout bearing
Post by: Dimples on March 29, 2015, 08:03:15 AM

These photos might help explain the assembly. In the first photo shows the protruding end of the push rod. The last photo shows its seal (#21) within the shaft. As long as nothing is leaking it should be okay.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/osteoglossum/IMG_8989_zpsnlw6pxee.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/osteoglossum/media/IMG_8989_zpsnlw6pxee.jpg.html)

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/osteoglossum/IMG_9003_zpspl8elmyf.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/osteoglossum/media/IMG_9003_zpspl8elmyf.jpg.html)

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/osteoglossum/IMG_9008_zpsegwlnxhb.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/osteoglossum/media/IMG_9008_zpsegwlnxhb.jpg.html)

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/osteoglossum/IMG_9013_zpshfj2yikw.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/osteoglossum/media/IMG_9013_zpshfj2yikw.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Small block throwout bearing
Post by: kevdog3019 on March 29, 2015, 01:14:28 PM

Excellent photos, thanks much.   ;-T
Looks like everything remains intact if there is a slight bit of movement.  My exploded view of the interior parts was "exploded" and showed parts in the wrong place and scared me a bit.  That seal was the item in question and I can see it stayed put.
Thanks much.

Title: Re: Small block throwout bearing
Post by: mtiberio on March 29, 2015, 03:59:25 PM

add a kickstart... small blocks, the only modern guzzis that can support one...

Title: Re: Small block throwout bearing
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on March 29, 2015, 07:58:42 PM

That would be kool..  ;D

Title: Re: Small block throwout bearing
Post by: Guido Valvole on March 29, 2015, 08:34:19 PM

Sadly I think the NATO kickstart was early V50 only. And seems to be hen's teeth. Weird off-side and sideways like an ancient BMW so you'll need the bike to be up on the center stand. My V50II starts immediately without the choke if ambient temperature is over 75ºF. Choke on for start only, immediately off if less than that. Kick would be easy and save the weight of the starter. Monza's a bit grumpier but still easier than the kick-only BSA B40. (SS90 tune) Sure would be nice to have kickstart backup. Not gonna happen in the real world.
cr

Title: Re: Small block throwout bearing
Post by: kevdog3019 on March 29, 2015, 08:44:29 PM

I'm all for kickstart!  :P

Title: Re: Small block throwout bearing
Post by: rodekyll on March 29, 2015, 10:08:15 PM

The lack of a kickstarter was the part about my first guzzi that made me nervous.  I still feel vulnerable being so battery dependent.

Title: Re: Small block throwout bearing
Post by: normzone on March 30, 2015, 12:20:47 AM

Quote from: rodekyll on March 29, 2015, 10:08:15 PM

The lack of a kickstarter was the part about my first guzzi that made me nervous.  I still feel vulnerable being so battery dependent.

Boy, does that bring back memories...