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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: blackbuell on April 09, 2015, 08:21:18 PM
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There is some Guzzi content here, because this first ride, and probably most of these BL rides will be on the Norge, assuming it continues to run as well as it has over the last 20K miles (ODO now shows 45K).
I'm semi-retired now, only work half-time during the school year; off completely for the entire summer. I've put together a bucket list including a dozen or so long MC rides, and I intend to knock off 2-3 rides from the list this summer. The first big ride will start on May 10 and will be 10-11 days in length (got to be somewhere with the wife on May 21). I've narrowed the first ride down to 2 possibilities:
1. Stop to see daughter and granddaughter in Ft. Collins, CO. From there spend 5-6 days riding around CO, southern WY, maybe eastern UT, and northern NM, then head home by way of Ft. Collins. I absolutely love riding in all of these areas. However, I am only likely to ride on roads that I have ridden on before (in some cases recently, others many years ago). Not that this is a bad thing, but maybe a bucket list should be about new experiences (not sure, never had a bucket list before). The big negative about this trip is the width (and, to me, the boredom) of that flat expanse between here (N KY) and there (the eastern slope of the Rockies). Over the past 45 years, I have crossed the Great Plains two to four times each summer; due to plate tectonics Kansas and Nebraska are getting significantly wider each year; I cringe each time I look at a map of either state (sorry, no disrespect intended). Do I really want to spend 4 of 11 days getting between home and where I really want to be?
2. Head to the Cherohala Skyway in North Carolina/Tennessee, camp for a day or two, than on to Suches, GA and the great roads near there (many of them will be new to me). Next, onto the Blue Ridge Parkway. Sandy and I rode for a few hours on the very southern end of the Parkway two summers ago; I really liked it, and might want to try to ride the entire length of it. The upside of this choice: no great "barrier" to cross (I know, it is only a barrier in my head, and the way I approach the ride), and I will ride on roads that I have not yet experienced on a bike. The possible down side: I drove most of the length of the Parkway in a pickup many years ago; loved the first 50-75 miles, then found it redundant and boring (and slow). Will I feel the same way about it now that I'm 66 instead of 22 YO, and now that I'll be on a bike instead of in a Chevy 1/2 ton?
Anyway, this is my thinking for now; might change the plans over the next few weeks. Many of the other trips on my list will require a lot more time than 10-11 days. When I start planning those, I might ask you all for some route/lodging/must-see-sight suggestions,
Comments are welcomed,
Jon
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The trick to enjoying the plains is to stay on secondary roads and treat each small town as an oasis . Small Kansas and Nebraska towns often have interesting history , take the time to do a bit of poking about , will give you something to think on while riding on the straight and flat . Oh , and Music , loud road songs :D
Dusty
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If my legs still worked I would want to do the Arctic ocean to Punta Arenas down the Rockies, across the Darian gap and down Andes.
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The plains suck. Sorry, Daniel ;D.. but they do. For me. Hour after hour of droning along. It's almost as bad as Indiana/Illinois. ;D
I prefer to tow the bike to the rockies, then ride the bucket list roads. Just knock off 5-600 mile days in relative comfort, then.. do Chief Joseph, Beartooth, Going to the sun, the 99 miles of curves following the Lewis and Clark expedition, Sprial highway.. then back.. load up, and cannonball home. As far as I'm concerned, there's no shame in blowing off the (boring) plains. ~; ;D
YMMV, of course..
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Blue Ridge Parkway is like a fine wine, just enjoy the beautiful vistas and perfectly manicured road with little traffic.
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The plains suck. Sorry, Daniel ;D.. but they do. For me. Hour after hour of droning along. It's almost as bad as Indiana/Illinois.
Man; if I had to drone along hour after hour it'd suck for me, too. So, don't do that!
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There is plenty of great riding on the eastern side. You could ride one hell of a way up north into Canada and back down. Sounds like you've been out west quite a bit. I tRG to make myself go into area's unknown and seam to enjoy that more than the same stuff all the time.
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Man; if I had to drone along hour after hour it'd suck for me, too. So, don't do that!
;D
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Take the long way.
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I think the planes are a beautiful peaceful place. Stay off the big slab and stop to smell the roses now and then. But I'll still take my Ozark Mountian Country. Hey, it's close <shrug>
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I would like to do the Lincoln Highway from end to end, and the Jefferson Highway from end to end. And as many of the old "Auto Trails" from the 20s that I could find time for. You'd really see the country that way. You might check out this link and see if you find a route that floats your boat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_trail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_trail)
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My bucket list starts small; when the ice and snow have melted from my driveway I'd like to ride to Braeburn for lunch.
Maybe this year I will even return with my gear lever.
Regarding the plains being boring; I disagree entirely... though I have never been there. I'm fascinated by both the rural and the urban landscapes. When I look at the photo-tours of the midwest and that dying way of life that some of you post; I wish didn't live 4000 km north of a starting point. Would I give up living in the Kalahari North for life in a more southerly small town? Never. But I would like month to just tootle about. The pictures I've seen show a breath-taking landscape and a way of life to be appreciated.
Soon it is nothing more than memories of dust on a clydesdales feathers.
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Konnie , the plains way of life isn't dead yet . Yeah , not many small farms and ranches left , but there are still folks living and thriving out in the middle . Come visit , you will get a warm welcome .
Dusty
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I really don't have a list of "musts," especially as I am blessed with day rides (and beyond) that others dream about right out my door.
Moreover, now that the weather is so fine, I'll be doing my monthly 1200-miler r/t visits to Mom in Atlanta on one of the Guzzis in the harem instead of the cage. There are many ways to ride that general axis, but my favorite includes running the angle down SR 42 through most of Virginia. [Thanks to Dean Rose for introducing me to that and other nearby sweet roads some years ago.] Before and after that, I go where whim takes me.
But, WRT even longer trips, planning the ride to Swanzey in June has gotten me to thinking about a fat man's version :D of the Appalachian Trail, i.e., riding the spine of the Appalachians from top to bottom or vice versa.
As you likely know, there are varying views of what constitutes the Appalachian chain, and an expansive view would say it runs from Canada to Mississippi. But, I suspect one could be a "thru-hiker" thru-rider of the infinite grand roads along, below, above, and near for a lifetime.
Buon viaggio to all in riding their dreams.
Bill
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The trick to enjoying the plains is to stay on secondary roads and treat each small town as an oasis . Small Kansas and Nebraska towns often have interesting history , take the time to do a bit of poking about , will give you something to think on while riding on the straight and flat . Oh , and Music , loud road songs :D
Dusty
Exactly!
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Man; if I had to drone along hour after hour it'd suck for me, too. So, don't do that!
You'd think they'd now know that by looking at all of your posts that NO, the plains are not boring. If you want to stay on the Interstate, then P&M.
I'll continue to enjoy the lonely bring plains like I have been doing for decades.
Tex
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Get some paper road maps and pick only state or county roads that are going in your general direction. Make limited use of US highways and make a point to avoid Interstates. If camping plan on being underway around 0800 and stop for breakfast at a Mon and Pop. Skip lunch but do a "fat pill" break around 1400 and plan on where you are going to camp for the night. Pick up something to cook for supper and try to be in camp by 1700. After supper plan the next days ride. If you do not know how to cook-learn. Write the directions on paper and put under your tank bag window. Have a trip log and record the days activities-years from now you will be glad you did. I use a 10" pad with a word program. I also use it to process and post my pictures to WG and store my eBooks. Do your "fat pill" stop at a place with Wi-Fi. When you get lost turn on the GPS. Once back on track turn it off. And last but not least if you have a schedule-stay home. ;D :BEER:
Matt
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Konnie , the plains way of life isn't dead yet . Yeah , not many small farms and ranches left , but there are still folks living and thriving out in the middle . Come visit , you will get a warm welcome .
Dusty, I'm certain of a warm welcome. We're country folk here too. The number of vacant buildings in some towns (in the photos) is what leads me to believe there is an out migration. If there is an empty store front here on Main Street someone snaps it up and opens some sort of business.
I'd love to come down but it is an 8000km round trip. On a V7. I'll just hope for more photo tours. :)
However, if you want to come on up; the door's open... just don't trip on the dogs.
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Another vote for staying on the small roads. You could follow the Missouri River Valley for most of your trip. Definitely not flat and straight. While the Colorado Rockies are a fine destination, my new all time favorite is the Four Corners area including all of Southern Utah.
Pete
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It's 1250 miles from Independence KY to Fort Collins CO via 71, 64, and 70. I think I'd probably choose the trailer, too, if my time was limited.
As far as seeing CO, southern WY, maybe eastern UT, and northern NM in 5-6 days, I'm not sure you will see much trying to cover all those places in that little amount of time.
But, I'll suggest some things:
Southern WY: Medicine Bow Mountains. Head west from Laramie on 130. Then south to Encampment WY, and on to Walden CO. You could then run Poudre Canyon back down to Fort Collins for the night, a 300 mile loop. Or, head west from Encampment on 70 and then south to Craig CO on 13, a 250 mile day. https://goo.gl/maps/FfbDJ
Eastern UT: The southeastern part of the State is my favorite. Getting there from Craig CO is fun! Mesa, Delta, Gateway, La Sal, then Moab. Helluva 400 mile day: https://goo.gl/maps/TbvXZ
From Moab, down to Blanding on 191 then up 95 to the northern terminus of 276, then down to Bull Frog marina and cross Lake Powell on the ferry. Then 276 back to 95, and 261 over Cedar Mesa and down Moki Dugway to Mexican Hat. Another 400 mile day. https://goo.gl/maps/gPRKI
Northern New Mexico: US-64 is a fantastic road all the way across the top of New Mexico. Be sure an stop at Brazos Overlook, just east of Tierra Amarilla. Then enjoy ride down into Taos. https://goo.gl/maps/V9UB9
Back to Fort Collins: A little bit of I-25, but the rest of this day will be a good one. https://goo.gl/maps/0jXdQ
It's a 500 mile day, but could be shortened (and straightened) to 350 miles by running 285 all the way north. https://goo.gl/maps/acDDu
Hope this helps. There's lots to see and do in that part of the country... Let me know if you want suggestions on accommodation or dining...
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If my legs still worked I would want to do the Arctic ocean to Punta Arenas down the Rockies, across the Darian gap and down Andes.
I don't think you can get across the Darien Gap even now. People have done it by putting their bike on a raft and having it pulled through the swamps at a huge cost in sweat and local help, but you can't "motorcycle" across it ....
Lannis
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It's 1250 miles from Independence KY to Fort Collins CO via 71, 64, and 70. I think I'd probably choose the trailer, too, if my time was limited.
Ah, but like dilligaf said ... If your time is limited (ie, you have a schedule), then for Bucket List purposes, you might as well stay home.
Lannis (can you you tell I'm newly retired? :D )
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Ah, but like dilligaf said ... If your time is limited (ie, you have a schedule), then for Bucket List purposes, you might as well stay home.
Lannis (can you you tell I'm newly retired? :D )
Saddlesore1000 is one of my bucket list things. I've got two certified. I'd be real tempted to knock out the Kentucky > Fort Collins run in one day on the bike. But I know most people would not.
Most people would want to do the 1250 miles over three days on a bike. It's an easy two day run in a car. It would probably come down to my mood. I've done rides like that both ways, trailer and ride.
And I'm one of the few who has grown to enjoy the ride across The Plains between The Ozarks and The Rockies. There is a lot more to see and do than you might first expect...
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Lots of interesting comments and some great suggestions....
One clarification: when I ride I don't make frequent stops to smell the roses or to check out historic buildings in small towns; it's just not what I enjoy. I am happiest riding mile after mile, preferably on scenic twisty roads. Getting from N KY to Ft. Collins in a day and 1/2 on a bike is no big deal.
I thoroughly enjoy reading every one of Daniel K's ride reports, and I understand why so many MG riders approach MC trips in a similar manner. But that way of travel is just not for me. When I am slamming away the miles, my head clears, I develop a sense of purpose, and I smile the whole time (well, not when it is pouring rain). The smile is much broader on a route like the Beartooth Highway than it is on Interstate 70, though.
Jon
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Saddlesore1000 is one of my bucket list things. I've got two certified. I'd be real tempted to knock out the Kentucky > Fort Collins run in one day on the bike. But I know most people would not.
Most people would want to do the 1250 miles over three days on a bike. It's an easy two day run in a car. It would probably come down to my mood. I've done rides like that both ways, trailer and ride.
And I'm one of the few who has grown to enjoy the ride across The Plains between The Ozarks and The Rockies. There is a lot more to see and do than you might first expect...
Different strokes for different folks .... Grinding out 1000 miles in a day on a bike is exactly the opposite of pleasure for me; that would be a "job". I'm more the "go a long way in a long time" sort of guy, and I DO like stopping in little towns and looking over the local historic buildings and taking little side trips to see a covered bridge or something. If I have to "make time", I might do 500 miles in a day on the big roads, but that's not my favorite part of the trip!
Lannis
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Go West young man!
(that's what I want to do anyway)
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Lots of interesting comments and some great suggestions....
One clarification: when I ride I don't make frequent stops to smell the roses or to check out historic buildings in small towns; it's just not what I enjoy. I am happiest riding mile after mile, preferably on scenic twisty roads. Getting from N KY to Ft. Collins in a day and 1/2 on a bike is no big deal.
Look at the map links I've provided. From experience, riding 400 miles in The Rockies is a good day of riding.
On most of my trips to The Rockies, it's been: breakfast. Ride 100-200 miles. lunch. ride 100-200 miles. check into a motel. eat dinner. sleep. repeat the next day.
On some trips, I've stayed in a town for two or three nights, and spent time enjoying the local scene. Taos, Santa Fe, Moab, Ouray.
One time, I stayed four nights in Mexican Hat and each day did a different loop.
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Different strokes for different folks .... Grinding out 1000 miles in a day on a bike is exactly the opposite of pleasure for me; that would be a "job". I'm more the "go a long way in a long time" sort of guy, and I DO like stopping in little towns and looking over the local historic buildings and taking little side trips to see a covered bridge or something. If I have to "make time", I might do 500 miles in a day on the big roads, but that's not my favorite part of the trip!
Lannis
Second the motion ... with stops. Heck, even if my heart was in slogging for mile after mile -- which it's not -- my body overrules it. :D
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On most of my trips to The Rockies, it's been: breakfast. Ride 100-200 miles. lunch. ride 100-200 miles. check into a motel. eat dinner. sleep. repeat the next day.
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I like that approach. Have ridden (once but never twice ;)) with folks who like to front-load miles before breakfast. I think that's communism. Only time I can stomach that (so to speak) is when the best pancake house in miles is ... well ... in miles. Prior planning prevents that. ;D
Bill
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I was once a mile eater , never stopping until the bike went on reserve , gas up , get a drink and go . Throttle pulled back , gotta get those miles , obsession , how far is it to that next state line ? Yeah , that can be fun , but doing a "Magical History Tour" is an amazing adventure also . Are you riding through a place , or riding "in" a place ? There is a LONG rider from Belle Fourche SD , 'Ol Griz , 800 miles a day , Alaska , Argentina , there and back , auxiliary fuel tank on a modern GS, stops about every 350 miles . Asked him once at a gas stop in Colorado if he had visited Eastern Oklahoma ? "Yeah , rode through there , green , lots of trees, didn't stop " .
Dusty
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I like that approach. Have ridden (once but never twice ;)) with folks who like to front-load miles before breakfast. I think that's communism. Only time I can stomach that (so to speak) is when the best pancake house in miles is ... well ... in miles. Prior planning prevents that. ;D
I only front-load the miles when it's warm, and I have a long way to go. Departing 4am-6am many times to make the 750 miles ride to Santa Fe or Denver, so I can arrive there and relax a bit before dinner.
When riding in The Rockies, even during the summer, departing early can mean riding in freezing temperatures, where if you wait until after breakfast the sun has warmed it into the 40s or 50s.
And I enjoy a good breakfast when road-tripping. :food
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Are you riding "through" a place , or riding "in" a place ?
Dusty,
That's the quote of the day, brother!
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I don't think you can get across the Darien Gap even now. People have done it by putting their bike on a raft and having it pulled through the swamps at a huge cost in sweat and local help, but you can't "motorcycle" across it ....
Lannis
I know that. I read the book by the first guy to do it alone. In fact, I met him at the BMW national in Wisconsin in the early nineties.
Bought the book from him there. One of the greatest ride stories ever written. He's dead now. Passed a few years after i met him
from some aweful cancer. At least he completed his bucket trip.
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Dusty,
That's the quote of the day, brother!
Absolutely true. However, I live in an area where the only curve is where a surveyor screwed up in the 1700s and there is a jog in the road. ;D I *love* mountain roads, and would rather just get there.
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Thanks Mike , have taken SO much allergy medicine this morning not sure it made sense ;D
Chuckie , yeah , riding in the hills and mountains is wonderful , the main reason I stay on the edge of the Ozark plateau . BUT , getting there is half the fun .
Dusty
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I will ride just about anywhere, when ever I can. Slab, two lane, curved, straight. If I need to eat miles I will hit the fastest interstate and go as fast and as long as I can, if not I will look for the 'long way' around and take my time. Riding is riding.
I only drive a cage when I have to, like towing the RV or hauling stuff or when the wife wants to go (no, she won't ride, something about being thrown off the back of a bike in an accident when she was a teen).
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I'm doing my own "Bucket List" ride this summer. I plan to hit places like Iowa, Illinois, Colorado, Kansas, Monument Valley and maybe even Alaska. I hopefully won't have to ride on any Interstates, but I'm pretty sure I will. I've done way too many 1200 mile straight runs over the years, including a couple from Louisville, KY to Colorado Springs. Now, I want to just relax and check out this beautiful country. I want to see America not just the exits on the Interstate. Yes, I love riding in the mountains, but I want to see the plains as well. The places I want to go are so diversified and numerous that I probably won't get to them all; but it should be a magnificent ride, never the less.
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My bucket list starts small; when the ice and snow have melted from my driveway I'd like to ride to Braeburn for lunch.
Maybe this year I will even return with my gear lever.
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If you get to Braeburn, say hi to Steve at the lodge. He's an old biker (looks the part) and crusty in an apathetic sort of way, but if you can get him to talk, he's got some good stories. -- oh -- and have one of his cinnamon rolls. They're so big they won't fit in a 3/4 helmet.
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I'm doing my own "Bucket List" ride this summer. I plan to hit places like Iowa, Illinois, Colorado, Kansas, Monument Valley and maybe even Alaska. I hopefully won't have to ride on any Interstates, but I'm pretty sure I will. I've done way too many 1200 mile straight runs over the years, including a couple from Louisville, KY to Colorado Springs. Now, I want to just relax and check out this beautiful country. I want to see America not just the exits on the Interstate. Yes, I love riding in the mountains, but I want to see the plains as well. The places I want to go are so diversified and numerous that I probably won't get to them all; but it should be a magnificent ride, never the less.
Crusty, your case is different, IMHO. I'd stay off the freakin interstates and take my time. After all.. that's what you are doing on this trip. Dorcia still says that the best vacation she's ever had was when we took the sidecar rig on all the old route 66 roads I could find. Never did more than 300 miles in a day. Once we made the Santa Monica pier, we came back by a different way, but the same method. Only on an interstate when absolutely necessary to get somewhere. The true 'America" is on those back roads and small towns, as Daniel so eloquently shows us. If you have the time..that's the way to travel.
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One time, I stayed four nights in Mexican Hat and each day did a different loop.
Mexican Hat is a great place to base camp out of for a number of rides. The small bar right next to the river bridge is where Michael J. Fox used to go to in the evening after filming Back to the Future #2 for some drinks. And "The Swinging Steak" just up the road does crank out some good ones.
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If you get to Braeburn, say hi to Steve at the lodge. He's an old biker (looks the part) and crusty in an apathetic sort of way, but if you can get him to talk, he's got some good stories. -- oh -- and have one of his cinnamon rolls. They're so big they won't fit in a 3/4 helmet.
I'll say hello for you.
He knows my bike by sound as I come into the yard because I ride in at a polite speed; he likes that.
Any tourist passers by ~ take note: spread the gravel on the way in and you will meet a very crusty guy.
Watched him give flack to a tour bus driver for "driving like a dink" ... in front of the passengers.
All his food is served in quantities over the top. Lot's of it is good too. ;)
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Mexican Hat is a great place to base camp out of for a number of rides. The small bar right next to the river bridge is where Michael J. Fox used to go to in the evening after filming Back to the Future #2 for some drinks. And "The Swinging Steak" just up the road does crank out some good ones.
San Juan Inn is at the bridge. Swinging Steak is fun!