I think this re enforces the fact that every motorcyclist should be closely monitoring their tires condition and pressures,no matter who made them.
If you wont use Avon tires, dont use Cooper tires on your car. Avon is owned by Cooper.
Yeah , and Sumitomo owns Dunlop .Not true.
Dusty
Yeah , if we're gonna bash a country let's at least bash the right one ::)
Dusty
I cannot see the image either, but shortly after I bought my R100GS the rear Shinko developed a large sidewall bulge - no trauma involved. I will not be using Shinkos in the future.
The image shows a 'tourance'-style dual-purpose tire that has had one of the blocks removed. We're supposed to think it's a straight-ahead delamination of the tread from the carcass, but you can see three kinds of damage besides the separation: There's a gouge in the adjacent block that suggests the tire ran over something tall and sharp, possibly snagging the missing block and forcing the delamination. The block itself has been removed by both a tearing action and what appears to be the application of either a sawzall or cut off wheel, as evidenced by the spot-melting along the edges of the remaining rubber. Since none of this damage is elsewhere on the tire (how does a spinning tire melt in just one spot?), it's an anonymous picture, there is no back story other than the china reference, and our little troll won't be back to defend his post, I'm declaring it a staged shot and hoax.
I think you would find reasoning and mistakes in pictures for proving the Holocaust
In the US at least, Maxxis is a brand name of Cheng-Shin Rubber Co. Ltd (Taiwan) and is in no way connected to Shinko.
Like I said -- he won't be back to defend his post. Classic troll.
duct tape... I don't see a problem.
It's a contrived picture of an anonymous tire with no story other than it's an example of Chinese quality, when in fact the product isn't Chinese and the damage isn't real. I'd say you got some 'splainin to do, Lucy.
I think you would find reasoning and mistakes in pictures for proving the Holocaust
I'm thinking about stuffing a Dunlop Signature on the back of the 1200s. I figure I can get 30-40,000 miles out of it. With modest performance AND tread life into the next century I'm practically making money!! Anyone have a preference of car tires on their bike?
(http://www.vtxcafe.com/gallery/data/1021/rear1.JPG)
Over here Shinko's are branded as Maxxis, they don't bring in their road bike tyre range which is a shame as I'd like to try them, especially on my Mana.
When Yokohama stopped making bike tyres, back in the late nineties or early nougties I think, they sold all of their plant, tooling and technology to Shinko. I ran a few sets of them on my Tontis back in the day and they were, generally, a good tyre but then I had a front that cracked and de-laminated the tread. That put me off them a bit but a lot of water has flowed under the bridge since then.
I have Maxxis tyres on two of my cars and really like them a lot, especially the grippier ones we have on Jude's Eos which make it as fun as a front wheel drive car ever will be!
I have a lot less problem with Chinese goods than I do with stuff from some other countries.
Pete
The Axxis rep comes in quite regularly. They bring in the off road range but not the road tyres. No idea why.Ask him for these
Pete
I'm thinking about stuffing a Dunlop Signature on the back of the 1200s. I figure I can get 30-40,000 miles out of it. With modest performance AND tread life into the next century I'm practically making money!! Anyone have a preference of car tires on their bike?
(http://www.vtxcafe.com/gallery/data/1021/rear1.JPG)
Ask him for these
http://www.maxxistyres.com.au/tyredetails.php?id=68&cat=20
Aus site !! is under motocross but clearly not MX tyre
I believe there was an issue with one particular Shinko tire recently. From what I remember it was tread cracking when used on heavy bikes...I have Shinko dual sport tires on my old Triumph and it appears Shinko tires in general are and excellent value.
Aren't Shinko's are made in Korea?
I put a set of Pirelli Diablo Rosso 2's on a friends bike. The front was made in China the rear was made in Germany. I have bought other Pirelli tires that were manufactured in Brazil.
I'm all happy about the long lived Chinese , quite fond of the Chinese folks and Chinese food is lovely .
But what the hell does that have to do with Shinko tires that are made in South Korea ?????????????
Dusty
Hmmmm, not only a dead horse; the wrong dead horse.
Yeah , that happens frequently here ...
Dusty
Hmmmm, not only a dead horse; the wrong dead horse.
I'm all happy about the long lived Chinese , quite fond of the Chinese folks and Chinese food is lovely .
But what the hell does that have to do with Shinko tires that are made in South Korea ?????????????
Dusty
ate steel cut oats? :grin:
Nothing but its interesting that none of the other posts mentioning China have anything to do with it either, yet that was the one you chose to comment on.
Its like most other posts made that have absolutely nothing to do with the thread they are posted to but seem OK and are encouraged?
Maybe I should have mentioned he had ridden a Moto Guzzi in earlier years and also ate steel cut oats? :grin:
thanks Charlie, you just ruined our entire day with the facts.
Did I mention any names ? No . Just making sure that if we are gonna bash an entire country we get the right one :rolleyes:
Dusty
Well, when you talk about a specific post then by golly what is left? There was nothing in anything I said that bashed China or the Chinese. Then why talk about what I posted in specific terms.
Name the names then Dusty, don't cast some wide net and use other people to make a point when they said nothing about the point you were trying to make.
How did this thread get past the 2nd reply?
Hmmmmmm. Derision: contemptuous ridicule or mockery. You do that to me all the time, I'm offended now! I'm gonna ride down to Mountian, mo. And have a talk with that Luap guy about you! :violent1:
Hmmmm, not only a dead horse; the wrong dead horse.:bow: :grin: :thumb:
Hmmmm, not only a dead horse; the wrong dead horse.
:bow: :grin: :thumb:
Yeah , that really was one of the funniest posts ever on WG :laugh:
Dusty
AT least he was only beating a dead horse and not eating a dead horse...that might have made the meal less appetizing! :)
Back to a post by Arizona Wayne, could you explain how horizontal or side forces are created by your tire ? If you viewed your bike from behind when cornering, the resultant of forces on the wheel are directly perpendicular to the axle. If you hung a pendulum in front of you in a corner you'd see the effect, if the string was in front of your nose, the weight on the end would point at the centre line of the tank, the only way in normal riding to apply side loads is on a trike or side car. If this was not so your bike would fall over.
I have been running Shinko 009's on my B1100 for 40K miles w/o any problems.
hly
Ok Dusty, I'll leave it there but happy to defend my argument if asked, but I don't want to be labelled a troll. Honestly though Dusty to say he might be on to something as a supporting argument might need a bit more substance. It's not a personal attack on the guy, but he's just not on the money there.
Yeah sounds like there's no losers there, how does it compare price wise to a Michelin for example ?
Wayne is referring to his use of car tires on his MP3 . He is probably onto something , as the flat profile is possibly creating some weird side loading on the bearings .
Dusty
Your game Huzo - I thought that was a set up and left it
alone. :shocked:
I'll back you now you've mentioned it though.
Dusty - I may be seeing things upside under with squinted
eyes - aren't those MP3's those twin front wheel thingies
upon which the front's lean with the "bike"?
Cheers Maurie.
Think of it this way . A flat profile tire is resistant to rolling over , so instead of a linear transition from upright to leaned over , there is a momentary side loading of the bearing as the tire resists what the MC is asking for . Picture a wheel barrow with a round profile tire , and then picture the same device with a flat profile tire , The round tire will transition smoothly as the wheelbarrow banks, a flat profile tire will want to hold the wheel upright as the forks or swing arm move to an angle .
Dusty
Wow you must of used up allot of brain cells on that bit of logic! You almost have me believing.
:-)
BTW Have you heard that the earth is flat?
Fits right in.
I haven't learned how to do that thing where you put a quote above your post
Yeah ok Dusty, thank you for your help and for putting me straight, it's good medicine for me but tastes lousy ! Understood now, but does the rear wheel lean or remain "square" to the road as the earlier post asked?
One of our local guys installed a car tire on his Rocket III . He told me it was great , he didn't even need to put a foot down when stopped :shocked:
Dusty
One of our local guys installed a car tire on his Rocket III . He told me it was great , he didn't even need to put a foot down when stopped :shocked:
Dusty
Great idea. What would you think of a Hoosier Drag Radial on the back of my Wolfie?
Damn Mr D you out do yourself sometimes..Bravo
car tires on bikes............go ing to the dark side.
never tried it but there are many experienced enthusiastic supporters.
Yeah , there are also guys that have multiple girlfriends and claim it is great ... until it isn't :laugh:Yeah multiple girlfriends are...well dangerous not to mention expensive.
Dusty
hey Dusty. there's lots of miles on "the dark side".
until I ride one, I'll hold my opinion.
..........tell me one adjuster that would even pick up on it.
Yeah , there are also guys that have multiple girlfriends and claim it is great ... until it isn't :laugh:
Dusty
Question, would a car tire on the rear of a sidecar rig make sense? Seems like there isn't any leaning involved so that factor is gone. Looks like much longer tire life would be involved.
All this Shinko Stinko and not talks of Cheng Shin? :popcorn:
Or Kenda. Need some Chinese tires in the mix :)
Firestone makes motorcycle tires????!!
Two totally different companies. Why should Cheng Shin be mentioned?
You wanna talk about crappy ass tires ? Metzler Lazertecs. Had a set of these almost killed me...
Easily the worst tire I've ever had. I can't imagine why people still buy them.
The Shinko Podiums I have on the Skorpion rock.
Ok, assuming Windows operation, highlight the text you want to quote, and hit control and C at the same time. This copies what you've highlighted to the clipboard. Then, hit reply. That will (of course) open a new window to type in. See those buttons above the emoticons? The sixth from the right looks like a cartoon balloon? Punch that with your mouse, and it will put quotes in your message. Hit Control P (paste), and Bob's your uncle. :smiley:
Apple's gotta be different. Instead of control, just push the weird apple thingy button close to control on the keyboard.
Can you guys elaborate a bit? I've got Lasertec's on my V7 Classic and they seem pretty solid. I get pretty spirited in the curves, and have had to slam the brakes once or twice and haven't dumped. I think the front one is cupping ever so slightly, but otherwise they seem alright. What bikes were you guys running these on? What have you found that you like better? Inquiring noobs want to know :)
I've used Shinko 712, 110 and currently 230 on my R65, very happy with them all, prefer the 110 . Got what I thought were Shinko tyres for the Stornello, and got Golden Boy! I was a bit disgusted, but checked the factory code that's after the DOT label, and they are made in the Shinko factory. No one puts their premium brand name on budget tyres.