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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: krglorioso on April 16, 2015, 12:34:49 AM
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Last November, I'd sent my '04 Stone's spare OEM seat and $435 to Rick Mayer Seats, hoping for fine work to offset the disappointment of the OEM perch. I received a call from them around December 1, saying the seat was scheduled for a January 6 completion. That was fine with me.
I have heard nothing since and phone calls requesting an update in February and March went unanswered.
Now it appears that RMS has gone belly-up and the business' assets have been moved away, according to one of the neighbor businesses quoted in a BMW owners site. There have been rumors of this happening "due to a divorce" but apparently the business has had problems since the early 2000s, unbeknownst to me when I sent them the seat. Well, fools rush in.
I am going to hope that in some remote hollow, Ricky is continuing to fill back orders and some day the UPS driver will deliver the seat of my dreams to me, but at my age I have no business deluding myself with absurd fantasies.
Hope springs eternal, tho, and if indeed Ricky comes through, I shall not hesitate to post to this thread and announce the welcome surprise.
Meanwhile, Dusty has informed me of a gold strike in Western Oklahoma and I'm getting ready to make a sizable investment.
Ralph
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Sorry to hear of your misfortune, but I'm not completely surprised. Rick's customer relations seem to have been contentious at best ever since he got into the business. I've heard at least as many negative comments as positive ones over the years.
Fingers crossed for the unlikely happy surprise :)
Best,
Carlo
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That really stinks. His brother Rocky does great work with none of the issues Rick has/had.
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Rocky is still in business and doing nice work. He is in Ventura Ca. I am going up to his place to have my friend's seat done. I know a lot of people that confuse Rocky with Rick. He was telling me that it has affected his business.
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Sorry to hear about that. I had a somewhat similar experience years back when I sent my LMIV heads to an advertiser in the MGNOC newsletter. The exhaust guides were shot and dripping oil down the valve stems. Talked with the shop owner, was assured it was a quick and easy job so I sent the heads. Two months later, no heads. A few more weeks, after many calls in which I was told they're just about to ship, letters and even a conversation with F. Wedge, I let the owner know I was about to drive down (6 hours) and see what was going on.
I got my heads back. I was gutted. They were covered in grinding paste, the guides looked like someone cut off the bar stock freehand with a hacksaw, one valve was stuck halfway open and the others creaked mightily and bound up when pushing on them. Never heard from the shop again.
I sent them straight to Manfred Hecht and a short time later received what looked like brand new heads, relieved, CC'd, polished, new guides, springs and valves. Cost twice as much, but lesson learned.
Tobit
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That's too bad, in a way. I had one of Rick's seats for several years on one of my bikes, and thought it was fantastic. Although I was aware at the time of his reputation for occasionally being a bit of a dick, my experience with his business was all positive. And I thought the end product was great. I guess his reputed bad attitude finally jumped up and bit him in the ass. It seems like a lot of the custom seat guys are going the way of EBR.
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I've seen a few other cases in which paying up front for long lead items went bad. When I build 2-stroke expansion chambers, the lead time can be long. I don't take money until the chambers are ready to ship. I think it's much safer that way for everyone involved.
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Last November, I'd sent my '04 Stone's spare OEM seat and $435 to Rick Mayer Seats, hoping for fine work to offset the disappointment of the OEM perch. I received a call from them around December 1, saying the seat was scheduled for a January 6 completion. That was fine with me.
I have heard nothing since and phone calls requesting an update in February and March went unanswered.
Now it appears that RMS has gone belly-up and the business' assets have been moved away, according to one of the neighbor businesses quoted in a BMW owners site. There have been rumors of this happening "due to a divorce" but apparently the business has had problems since the early 2000s, unbeknownst to me when I sent them the seat. Well, fools rush in.
Ralph
Same sort of thing happened to me in the 80's. A rip-off artist masquerading as a Harley-Davidson dealer in Madison Heights, Virginia named "Dennis Schultz" took my money for some accessory lights (about $200) for the new Harley I had bought from him on a Thursday. On Saturday, when I went by the shop, it was empty and boarded up. The hairdresser lady next door said that trucks had been there all night loading up stuff. Last I heard of him, he was in Pennsylvania, probably pulling the wool off of some other trusting souls.
As far as I'm concerned, what happened to you (and me) is exactly the same as Mayer or Schultz walking past your car, seeing $435 laying on the seat, and reaching in and taking it, saying "I know Ralph, I'll pay him back some day" and then never speaking to you again. It's just raw theft, regardless of "intentions" ....
Lannis
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I had a similar situation with Seth Laam out in Redding CA. He altered the seat the exact way I told him not to, I then returned it to him and had a phone conversation of how I wanted it redone and now he will not answer my email or return phone calls, this was about a year ago so I chalked it up for experience. I will now only use Russell or Sargent's.
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Condolences. I'd been hemming and hawing for a year or so on my Quota seat after hearing of the bad press in BMW forums and on WG. It's a shame, Rick did a fine job on my DR650. I think I'm glad I gambled on Rich's for my Stelvio seat. We shall see in a few days...
Spuddy
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Well, this confirms a sneaking suspicion I had. Over the winter I tried to reach out to Rick via email and telephone to make arrangements for a recover of a saddle he had already done for me a few years back. Never heard back after trying every few days for about a month. Decided then to do a cheap repair on my own and not gamble on sending it out "unannounced". Sure glad I did. I've read the reviews, both good and bad, and tend to chalk most of what I read up to typical interweb complaining but I guess not this time. Sorry to hear about your situation.
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I had a similar experience with him in '02. The seat did finally arrive, but with many detail flaws. It was very comfortable, but after waiting for months I had to finish it myself. There was no way I was going to send it back to him. I've used Sargent ever since...
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I have a Rich Maund seat on my California that I'm happy with. Wonder if he is still doing them?
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I had a similar situation with Seth Laam out in Redding CA. He altered the seat the exact way I told him not to, I then returned it to him and had a phone conversation of how I wanted it redone and now he will not answer my email or return phone calls, this was about a year ago so I chalked it up for experience. I will now only use Russell or Sargent's.
Same here. Seat is a good seat, customer service leaves a lot to be desired.
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As far as I'm concerned, what happened to you (and me) is exactly the same as Mayer or Schultz walking past your car, seeing $435 laying on the seat, and reaching in and taking it, saying "I know Ralph, I'll pay him back some day" and then never speaking to you again. It's just raw theft, regardless of "intentions" ....
Lannis
Hey! Don't drag me into this. :D
Had a Rick Mayer on my Norge and really liked it. Dealing with him was fine but I did hear of others who had communication problems.
We had a Harley dealer here do a similar thing. Monday morning and the shop was closed, inventory gone. The employees didn't even know.
Repair motorcycles were returned but not sure about deposits and paid items that weren't picked up.
Worst part is he wasn't a bad dealer overall - just got into too much debt. :(
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I purchased three seats (maybe four; can't remember exactly) from his father many years ago. Never a problem and the turnaround time was good. Russell bought the patents that Mayer held for the way that he built a seat and the boys each struck out with their own company and their own specific technique for building a seat. I didn't buy a custom seat for quite a while but by the time I needed one, I was warned to stay away from Rick's company due to his poor customer relations and long wait times. This was quite a few years ago and I wound up buying the seat from Russell since they were using the same method that Mayer Sr. used. I've bought a couple more since then and each time, from Russell. I never heard any complaints about Rocky but I've seen a couple of his seats and they were not as well finished as the original Mayer seats or the Russell seats that I've owned. In between all of this, I've bought a couple of Corbin seats but they never fit my butt like the original Mayer (now, Russell) designed seats.
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Sorry this happened, Ralph. I would offer you my spare '98 EV seat pan, but it does you no good. Crud! Hate to hear this happened to you, and I hate to see this fellow "soiled" his name.
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Dusty never said anything to me. WTF Dusty? ::( :BEER:
Matt
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I have a Rich Maund seat on my California that I'm happy with. Wonder if he is still doing them?
I'm still alive and have a business license. ;) But not getting much done the past few years since becoming diabetic. Hands hurt from arthritis too. Being cared for by the VA means the condition gets neglected. I'm getting wore out. I still do a trickle of work, but mostly its the Ural stuff I have done for some years now. I lost one of my foam suppliers and can't find one particular foam I commonly need to do seats anymore.
And please don't tell me "Just get it off the internet!" I have wasted money on some really shitty foam that way. >:(
I'm thinking of letting my business license expire next year and calling it quits after 20 years in the seat business.
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I'm still alive and have a business license. ;) But not getting much done the past few years since becoming diabetic. Hands hurt from arthritis too. Being cared for by the VA means the condition gets neglected. I'm getting wore out. I still do a trickle of work, but mostly its the Ural stuff I have done for some years now. I lost one of my foam suppliers and can't find one particular foam I commonly need to do seats anymore.
And please don't tell me "Just get it off the internet!" I have wasted money on some really shitty foam that way. >:(
I'm thinking of letting my business license expire next year and calling it quits after 20 years in the seat business.
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Sorry to hear about the health issues. The seats you made for me were top-notch, I'm sorry that future riders won't be able to experience "their ass thanking them"!
Lannis
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Rich -
Sorry to hear about the health issues. The seats you made for me were top-notch, I'm sorry that future riders won't be able to experience "their ass thanking them"!
Lannis
:+1
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As far as I'm concerned, what happened to you (and me) is exactly the same as Mayer or Schultz walking past your car, seeing $435 laying on the seat, and reaching in and taking it, saying "I know Ralph, I'll pay him back some day" and then never speaking to you again. It's just raw theft, regardless of "intentions" ....
Lannis
:+1 :+1
No other way I can see it either.
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Sorry to hear of your health issues. sorry to hear that you have ignored those that sent deposits to you.....
Paul
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Sorry to hear of your health issues. sorry to hear that you have ignored those that sent deposits to you.....
Paul
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Sorry to hear of your health issues. sorry to hear that you have ignored those that sent deposits to you.....
Paul
Rich Maund aka Sidecarnutz, is not Rick Mayer, subject of this thread.
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I have a Rick Mayer seat on my Honda PC800 and think it is great. Dealing with him, not so much. Was told 6 weeks on the build. I called about 7 weeks later to see how it was going and was told it would be done if he didn't have to answer the phone answering when it would be done.
Sent my Norge seat to Bill Mayer for a redo. Now not everybody can be satisfied all the time but the seat was totally uncomfortable. I called and stated so and what I thought was wrong. He said send it back. Got it back with almost no changes. He said send it back. I already had almost $100 in shipping so it went on eBay and I took a $400 bath.
Almost scared to try another seat recovering company as I lose my pan. I put a Corbin on the R1200GS I had and it was much better than stock. Not great but acceptable. Looking at the new one for the 1400 I may have to spring.
Rudy
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Sorry to hear about that. I had a somewhat similar experience years back when I sent my LMIV heads to an advertiser in the MGNOC newsletter. The exhaust guides were shot and dripping oil down the valve stems. Talked with the shop owner, was assured it was a quick and easy job so I sent the heads. Two months later, no heads. A few more weeks, after many calls in which I was told they're just about to ship, letters and even a conversation with F. Wedge, I let the owner know I was about to drive down (6 hours) and see what was going on.
I got my heads back. I was gutted. They were covered in grinding paste, the guides looked like someone cut off the bar stock freehand with a hacksaw, one valve was stuck halfway open and the others creaked mightily and bound up when pushing on them. Never heard from the shop again.
I sent them straight to Manfred Hecht and a short time later received what looked like brand new heads, relieved, CC'd, polished, new guides, springs and valves. Cost twice as much, but lesson learned.
Tobit
If you ever need head work again, one of the best in the USA is right there in Memphis, Leo Goff at Memphis Motor works.
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Sorry to hear of your health issues. sorry to hear that you have ignored those that sent deposits to you.....
Paul
Wrong guy! Between Mayer, Mayer, Mayer, Rich's Seats, and Rich Maund, the seat world can be confusing.
Besides, we can catch hold of Rich Maund at the next Guzzi rally if we want him for anything.... !
Lannis
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Rocky is still in business and doing nice work. He is in Ventura Ca. I am going up to his place to have my friend's seat done. I know a lot of people that confuse Rocky with Rick. He was telling me that it has affected his business.
I wonder if he can mayhap lay his hands on the OPs seat and money?
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I wonder if he can mayhap lay his hands on the OPs seat and money?
Wrong guy again. "RICK" Mayer is the one with the OP's seat and money. "ROCKY" Mayer is his estranged brother .....
Lannis
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I'm still alive and have a business license. ;) ...
.... I'm thinking of letting my business license expire next year and calling it quits after 20 years in the seat business.
As they'd say in the South "you need" an apprentice! It's a shame to loose your experience. Just someone who enjoys a craft, can answer email, etc. Okay, maybe it'll be easier to find good foam.
I've met you briefly and have never heard anything but the highest regards for you even when you weren't around. :D
Cheers,
Mike
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Corbin has just come out with a "skunk" style custom seat for the 2007-12 CalVin models. I have an OEM CalVin seat on my 03 Stone, so I know that a custom seat for a CalVin with fit my Stone. I'll give Rick Mayer Seats a few months before I ride down to Corbin's and throw myself at their feet.
The nice thing about a Corbin seat is that they make their own (very sturdy) seat pans and the seats can be returned if buyer is unsatisfied since seat is an "off the shelf" item. Corbin's price for the Cal-Vin seat is $493, very reasonable IMHO. I would not have gone with a Ned's seat (on my 04 Stone Touring) or a Rick Mayer seat had Corbin made the CalVin seat earlier. There often is too much misunderstanding or failure to deliver risk with a one-off seat using the customer's pan. The quality of my Ned's seat was first rate and Jim Figgins is a stand up guy, but even after a return and re-do the shape still left a lot to be desired. By contrast, each of the 4 Corbin seats that I've owned was very acceptable.
It would be nice if motorcycle makers put a bit more thought into their bikes' seats and spared us all this bother.
Ralph
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It would be nice if motorcycle makers put a bit more thought into their bikes' seats and spared us all this bother.
I've never found a stock seat to be lacking in comfort, although I do give my rear end half a year or so to break in to the seat before I pass judgement.
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Wrong guy again. "RICK" Mayer is the one with the OP's seat and money. "ROCKY" Mayer is his estranged brother .....
Lannis
I did realise that Lannis, but wondered if he might be persuaded to put the acid on his brother. The word "estranged" indicates probably not.
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I've never found a stock seat to be lacking in comfort, although I do give my rear end half a year or so to break in to the seat before I pass judgement.
Not a gay thing - and not that there's anything wrong with that - but you've got quite the derriere, sir. ;D On the opposite end of things, of the 9 or 10 bikes I've had in the last ten years, not a single one of them seemed to have a stock seat I could travel 150 or more miles on without reaching for the ibuprofen.
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I've never found a stock seat to be lacking in comfort, although I do give my rear end half a year or so to break in to the seat before I pass judgement.
Us humans being very far up the food chain compared to a motorcycle seat, I don't plan to painfully try to accommodate some random seat with my flesh-and-blood gluteus maximus for months on end!
Seats make or break a ride - I only sit on a stock seat long enough to get a seat made that I like, and then AWAY with it!
Lannis
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I've never found a stock seat to be lacking in comfort, although I do give my rear end half a year or so to break in to the seat before I pass judgement.
The one piece EV seat will change your tune.
I have had stock seats that didn't need any attention but I do think in general the mfgs. design them with their dealer's accessories sales in mind.
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Designed for the acessory market maybe but you are also trying to please everybody. FAIL! Working at a Honda dealer from 73-93 the story we got
when the 1200 Goldwing was brought out was they spent a lot of time on the seat. Supposedly a number of prototypes were taken on a long ride with testers from various groups commenting on the seat. When somebody complained the chase truck modified the seat. Who buys more seats than Gold Wing riders?
I cannot verify this story but that is what the rep told us.
Rudy
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I would never send off my pan and full payment to one of these guys?? I feel like all I ever hear about custom seat guys are these same threads about insane waits and sending it back multiple times??
Get a bead rider or a sheepskin ?? Works for me, YMMV
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I would never send off my pan and full payment to one of these guys?? I feel like all I ever hear about custom seat guys are these same threads about insane waits and sending it back multiple times??
Get a bead rider or a sheepskin ?? Works for me, YMMV
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The only way I was willing to do it was a ride in and get it done that day which I could do for the Rocky Mayer seat. Turned out nice but it was just fortunate that I lived close enough to do that.
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Us humans being very far up the food chain compared to a motorcycle seat, I don't plan to painfully try to accommodate some random seat with my flesh-and-blood gluteus maximus for months on end!
The very fact that we're so far up the food chain has given us an amazing ability to adapt to our surroundings. A few years ago I lost about 25 lbs., which left my rear very unpadded. Shortly after that, I drove my van to Florida, pretty much nonstop. My butt was sore for a day or two, but the trip back was nowhere near as bad. It didn't take long after that for the problem to go away completely.
I could have given up immediately, and had my van's seat redone with all kinds of fancy padding, gel inserts, etc., and that would have probably fixed the problem too, but of course riding in someone else's car on a long trip would still have made my butt sore.
The usual disclaimers apply: There are exceptions, everyone is different, etc..
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The only time I've had a seat worked over by a shop I was coming in from out of town and had an appointment. He told me to come back end-of-business and it would be ready. I told him it would be ready sooner if I just hung out on account of I could answer any questions and sit for fitment. He said that my seat wasn't the only thing he had to do that day. I said "I've got the appointment and I drove three days to get here, so yes, it is." I was able to watch the entire process and had the saddle tweaked to my personal 'roids with plenty of time left in his day for the other things he had to do. Worked out well.
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I hear riding into Corbin is the way to go with them too.
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I would never send off my pan and full payment to one of these guys?? I feel like all I ever hear about custom seat guys are these same threads about insane waits and sending it back multiple times??
Get a bead rider or a sheepskin ?? Works for me, YMMV
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The sad tales about bad deals is all you ever hear from us on the Interwebby. Makes it sound like the custom seat world is a bed of thievery and crime.
It's not really. Thousands and thousands of custom seats get made with excellent results on both sides. I've had many, and have actually written them up too.
I have a bad story about a brick supplier when I was building my house, but it shouldn't stop you from buying bricks ... ?
I tried the Airhawk and Sheepskin solutions, and they get part of the way there, but ....
Lannis
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The sad tales about bad deals is all you ever hear from us on the Interwebby. Makes it sound like the custom seat world is a bed of thievery and crime.
It's not really. Thousands and thousands of custom seats get made with excellent results on both sides. I've had many, and have actually written them up too.
I have a bad story about a brick supplier when I was building my house, but it shouldn't stop you from buying bricks ... ?
I tried the Airhawk and Sheepskin solutions, and they get part of the way there, but ....
Lannis
Partially true. I have personally recommended Rick Mayer to many people. Corbin I tell people some are good (my BMW seat) some are bad (service work on my VFR seat). I have also purchased Young's and Sargent. I have sent out my pan and money for several seats with no problem other than some seats I received were less than stellar. The catch is if the company gets it wrong the first time they never get the second chance to show that was a fluke and then we tell everyone about the "awful" work. The old saying is a satisfied customer will tell about 3 friends and a dissatisfied customer will tell about 10. I forget the actual numbers but is was similar to that when I worked in a Honda dealer for 20 years.
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I found a local guy. Saves $$$ on shipping too.
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The sad tales about bad deals is all you ever hear from us on the Interwebby. Makes it sound like the custom seat world is a bed of thievery and crime.
It's not really. Thousands and thousands of custom seats get made with excellent results on both sides. I've had many, and have actually written them up too.
I have a bad story about a brick supplier when I was building my house, but it shouldn't stop you from buying bricks ... ?
I tried the Airhawk and Sheepskin solutions, and they get part of the way there, but ....
Lannis
Judging from the fact there are about 20 custom seat operations.. SOMEOBE, somewhere must be doing it well.
This is purely anecdotal of course, just seems like I hear endless horror stories of seat nightmares.
I have a spare seat for my breva, I'd love to get it redone and raised 1.5" but I just don't know who to trust! I feel like I've heard something negative about every seat maker that comes up!!
If you were to send out a seat now.. Who would get your pan and $$??
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I would never send off my pan and full payment to one of these guys?? I feel like all I ever hear about custom seat guys are these same threads about insane waits and sending it back multiple times??
Get a bead rider or a sheepskin ?? Works for me, YMMV
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:+1 Tricky Ricky can't be held accountable; he's just a good Nigerian businessman. I hear his family's in trouble too. I sent him the routing number to my bank account this morning.
Partially true. I have personally recommended Rick Mayer to many people. The old saying is a satisfied customer will tell about 3 friends and a dissatisfied customer will tell about 10. I forget the actual numbers but is was similar to that when I worked in a Honda dealer for 20 years.
I agree completely, there are lies and then there are damned lies. I don't care what anyone says, Mr. Cosby is a fine manager of young talent. Your daughter is in good hands.
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The last several times I've had my seat altered I didn't ship the pan anywhere. I got out a bread knife and cut up my foam, went down to Donna, the canvas lady, and got the foam to relayer it. When done, if necessary (often isn't), I made a new cover pattern from paper and had Donna stitch it together. Cost is about $50 including a spray can of adhesive and her time. It's just not that difficult a diy job.
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Rich Maund has made a few seats for my bikes over the years and I have no complaints. About three years ago I was looking at the seat on my 1000S which Rich made maybe 10+? years ago and I realized that the Italian flag was not symmetrically located on the seat. I actually like that, as it gives it a certain appeal & something very Moto Guzzi like.
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Who would get your seat and pan .... ?
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Now that Rich is retired, it would be Russell (Day-Long). With the beautiful job they did on my Stelvio seat, I have no reason to look anywhere else ......
Lannis
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Damn, I hate to hear about anybody getting screwed out of money for a motorcycle seat. We are a pretty small community and almost all my dealings have been based on a large dose of faith in the other party. 99% of the time I have been rewarded with a great business transaction. I had a brush with Rick Mayer about two years ago and was hesitant to say much about it since the final product was really nice. The three month run-around from Rick was another story. The seat was scheduled for late January...then for delivery to me at Bike Week in Daytona...then to my house after Bike Week. It's a good thing I had a spare solo seat because riding the V7 without a seat is not an option. I am not surprised to hear he is out of business, really glad actually. That's one less shady guy to deal with.
Peter Y.
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Dusty never said anything to me. WTF Dusty? ::( :BEER:
Matt
Wait ... what ??? I was in Kansas feeding a bunch of hungry Guzzi riders , what did I miss ?
Dusty
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His brother Bill (call him Rocky) runs BMS Saddles and is nothing like his brother. BMS is top notch.
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Now that Rich is retired, it would be Russell (Day-Long). With the beautiful job they did on my Stelvio seat, I have no reason to look anywhere else ......
Lannis
Yep, me too. The best custom seats that I have owned over the last 45 years were made by E-Z Berg, The original Mayer Day Long Saddle Co (father of both of the Mayer brothers) and Russell (who bought the patents from Mayer Sr.).
I have purchased two seats from Russell and they were as good as the seats that Mayer made when he owned Day Long. The quality is always first rate and there's none of the shenanigans and games that have happened with Rick Mayer.
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Yep, me too. The best custom seats that I have owned over the last 45 years were made by E-Z Berg, The original Mayer Day Long Saddle Co (father of both of the Mayer brothers) and Russell (who bought the patents from Mayer Sr.).
I have purchased two seats from Russell and they were as good as the seats that Mayer made when he owned Day Long. The quality is always first rate and there's none of the shenanigans and games that have happened with Rick Mayer.
That's interesting history, I didn't know that.
EZ Berg used to run big adverts in the Cycle/Cycle World/Big Bike magazines back in the 70s. The seats looked pretty simple, and I wondered at the time whether they would be comfortable or not ... glad to hear that they were good ones.
Lannis
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Lannis, Ez was a real character and always looked like an unmade bed. Although he rode Beemers, he should have been on a Guzzi, LOL
He lived in San Diego and would drop by for just a few minutes during the Sunday morning gathering of the BMW Club when they met in the Pt. Loma area. He had sold his company but he would still make a seat when somebody local wanted one so I had him build a seat for me. Top quality and extremely comfortable. His seat and the original Mayer (now Russell) seat are very similar.
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When I thought about a custom seat for my F650 I was interested in a Rick Mayer seat. Wasn't he the guy who said he made custom seats for wheelchairs? Anyway, I ended up trading my standard for a Dakar seat from some guy in San Francisco. Great trade that worked out for both of us.
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I was up in Ventura yesterday at Bill Mayer Saddles to meet my friend who was having his BMW RT seat modified. Had my seat done last year on my Stelvio and I love it. I was talking to Bill "Rocky" telling him about the discussion on Rick's failure to deliver seats, he indicated that Rick was in big trouble with the trade commission and it was hurting him due to people confusing him with Rick. Rocky is still doing nice work and I would encourage any one who is considering a custom seat to contact Rocky. If you ride in he will custom fit your seat while you wait only takes a few hours. Don't mean to be an advertisement but just want to endorse a vendor that I feel does a good job.
BMS
3605-A Arundell Circle
Ventura, CA 93003
805-644-7216
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Correct. Rocky does some fine work.
I make the waterproof seat covers for hi m (and others). I got hooked up with him after outfitting 100's of satisfied customers who own BMS saddles who contacted me for leather protection.
I have seats form almost every major maker and over a dozen of the minor ones. The BMS and Russell Day-Long are by far the top two I see and hear about from riders all over the world. Laam is climbing up the chart at an impressive pace.
This is based on providing my product to over 1000 riders over the past few years.
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John -- what is this 'trade commission' you mention?
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Rich Maund did my 06 Breva seat.. ;-T ;-T
Bill (Rocky) Mayer did my 13 Stelvio NTX seat.. ;-T ;-T
My aprilia Futura has the perfect stock seat. I've never heard of anyone sending that seat in to get modified. *I take that back......I bought another Futura at a local bike shop (they didn't know what they had), and it came with a "couch looking - lots of pleats" seat. I immediately sold that one for $$$ and bought a stock seat for $. Man I should have kept that 2nd Futura.. ::)
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I think Seth Lamm did a good job on my Stelvio seat. It's about 1/2" lower than stock but a lot more comfortable. I got a little width at the rear compared to stock for added support. It feels good when I sit on it.
(http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp19/demar39/LammSeat.jpg)
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I was talking to Bill "Rocky" telling him about the discussion on Rick's failure to deliver seats, he indicated that Rick was in big trouble with the trade commission and it was hurting him due to people confusing him with Rick.
He's probably just speculating. If the FTC is investigating Rick Mayer for problems with his advertising, it wouldn't be a very public thing and I doubt anyone would know about it. Rocky is probably being hurt because Rick has been taking people's money and not doing the work, and the word's getting around ....
Lannis
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I'm still alive and have a business license. ;) But not getting much done the past few years since becoming diabetic. Hands hurt from arthritis too. Being cared for by the VA means the condition gets neglected. I'm getting wore out. I still do a trickle of work, but mostly its the Ural stuff I have done for some years now. I lost one of my foam suppliers and can't find one particular foam I commonly need to do seats anymore.
And please don't tell me "Just get it off the internet!" I have wasted money on some really shitty foam that way. >:(
I'm thinking of letting my business license expire next year and calling it quits after 20 years in the seat business.
I have one of your seats on my 1997 Cali 1100i! I rode it from Florida to California, with one 980 mile day, and never thought about the seat! It fits me on this Guzzi well. I didn't buy the seat, my friend did when the bike was his.
It is a great seat! I am going to find someone to recover it since I managed to get a tear in the outer cover. *sigh*
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I have a BMS on my Cal Special. When it was time for recovering I found a local upholstery shop who did it for 30 dollars.
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I hear riding into Corbin is the way to go with them too.
California. Not Florida.