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Title: My Norgy
Post by: PICKLEKOOKEN on April 30, 2015, 12:16:08 PM
 Well after 91800 some miles just short of 6years of ownership my Norgy took a rest. Took it to Moto Italia of northern Colorado, for some service. TPS cold start. Check the balance of the tbs . She refused to start to go in to the shop. As it turns out the ECU died  >:( :-[ So I've got a couple of people trying to find one. If I didn't have a car payment all ready! :beat_horse
Title: Re: My Norgy
Post by: Lannis on April 30, 2015, 12:20:02 PM
Well after 91800 some miles just short of 6years of ownership my Norgy took a rest. Took it to Moto Italia of northern Colorado, for some service. TPS cold start. Check the balance of the tbs . She refused to start to go in to the shop. As it turns out the ECU died  >:( :-[ So I've got a couple of people trying to find one. If I didn't have a car payment all ready! :beat_horse

Sounds like it's been a good bike.   A dead ECU on a modern bike is probably the cost equivalent of a piston seizing in a cylinder .... ?

Lannis
Title: Re: My Norgy
Post by: blackcat on April 30, 2015, 12:23:57 PM
I wonder why the ECU died?
Title: Re: My Norgy
Post by: canuguzzi on April 30, 2015, 12:32:04 PM
All bike owners should be so lucky. There as to be someone parting out a Norge. I think I saw one on a site just the other day, I think they are located in France (originally GB) but I can't remember the name. Pretty recent thread though. Looked like front end damage to the Norge but the rest appeared ok. Maybe they have an ECU?
Title: Re: My Norgy
Post by: Big Block Jon on April 30, 2015, 12:43:49 PM
Reboot guzzi spares? They are in France now, I think.
Title: Re: My Norgy
Post by: PICKLEKOOKEN on April 30, 2015, 12:44:01 PM
Yea Pilot, Reboot is their name but no ecu. My dealer says their back ordered with no ETA ???
Title: Re: My Norgy
Post by: blackcat on April 30, 2015, 12:46:19 PM
Reboot has one from a Breva but it might not work:

http://www.rebootguzzispares.com/breva.htm

Title: Re: My Norgy
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on April 30, 2015, 12:53:50 PM
ebay uk has a 1200 2V..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_mPrRngCbx=1&_sop=18&_nkw=moto+guzzi+ecu&LH_PrefLoc=2
Title: Re: My Norgy
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on April 30, 2015, 01:01:23 PM
The ECU died, sounds a bit fishy to me.
U sure she wasn't just dragging her feet ???
Title: Re: My Norgy
Post by: PICKLEKOOKEN on April 30, 2015, 01:16:02 PM
No they pull one of another bike and it cranked.
Title: Re: My Norgy
Post by: twhitaker on April 30, 2015, 01:38:34 PM
Wondering out loud if they put the original back in and tried it again. Doesn't cost much.
Title: Re: My Norgy
Post by: JeffOlson on April 30, 2015, 01:39:27 PM
I wonder where the ECU is made. All of my [insert favorite country]-made electronics components seem to die after a few years, requiring replacement.

I hope my Norge's ECU lasts a while!
Title: Re: My Norgy
Post by: Lannis on April 30, 2015, 01:40:50 PM
Wondering out loud if they put the original back in and tried it again. Doesn't cost much.

They need to try that.   The one off the other bike might have worked, not because the old one was broken, but because connecting and disconnecting it scraped some corrosion off the connectors.

Things like that can happen over 90,000 miles in that weird Front Range weather out there .....

Lannis
Title: Re: My Norgy
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on April 30, 2015, 01:53:11 PM
They need to try that.   The one off the other bike might have worked, not because the old one was broken, but because connecting and disconnecting it scraped some corrosion off the connectors.

Things like that can happen over 90,000 miles in that weird Front Range weather out there .....

Lannis

Absolutely. I can't tell you how many electronic things I've fixed by taking apart a connector, peering at the apparatus like I knew what I was doing, and plugging it back in. Electronic things are needy, and just want you to pretend you care about them.  ;D
Oh. And a little Caig DeOxit for good measure.
Title: Re: My Norgy
Post by: Vasco DG on April 30, 2015, 02:53:19 PM
I'd be very, very surprised if it's the ECU. Have they tried hot-wiring the starter and seeing if it fires up? Sounds more like the classic 'Startus Interuptus' to me.

As for ECU's there are lots of them that will work. ducati 1098 comes to mind? Paul published a list of what will work a while back. Just buy the ECU and re-flash it with either the original map or a better one.

Pete
Title: Re: My Norgy
Post by: screamday on April 30, 2015, 03:04:13 PM
Absolutely. I can't tell you how many electronic things I've fixed by taking apart a connector, peering at the apparatus like I knew what I was doing, and plugging it back in.

That's how Wayne fixed my EV.  ;D :BEER: :BEER: ;-T
Title: Re: My Norgy
Post by: rodekyll on April 30, 2015, 03:21:40 PM
Sounds like it's been a good bike.   A dead ECU on a modern bike is probably the cost equivalent of a piston seizing in a cylinder .... ?

Lannis

No, I think it's more like a broken distributor, but without all the post-replacement mechanical setup.

$0.02
Title: Re: My Norgy
Post by: Moto Fugazzi on April 30, 2015, 04:44:02 PM
$283 on Harper's website. I don't know if the price is outdated. $419 from AF1 Racing.
http://www.harpermoto.com/parts-by-motorcycle/2000-up-moto-guzzi-motorcycles/norge-1200-ie-1200-2006-2008/electrical-system-i-en-norge-1200-ie-2006-2008.html
I used a Ducati 900SS 15M on my V11S after a reflash without issues, so you might be ok with any M/M 15RC ECU.
Ken
Title: Re: My Norgy
Post by: Far star on April 30, 2015, 08:29:01 PM
I bought a spare ecu of Craigslist for 100.00 CAN. It is the same ecu Ducati uses on a lot of there bikes, a 1AW5AM and lots of people owning Ducati's buy the Termingoni exhaust kits that come with a new ecu. My bike is a 2012 Norge, not sure what is in an older Norge. Of course the firmware will be different, so you would need to reflash it, which is often available free. Or, if you copied it at some point. Maybe even gets some Ducati pipes with it.