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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Punch on May 02, 2015, 12:35:30 AM
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I have gleaned a lot of info about Guzzi Diag etc. from this web site and others. Particularly this thread. http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=69168.0
Many many thanks.
A companion to the ability to read, tune and write is the ScanST software, again developed in the same spirit as Guzzi Diag.
I did search the forum for ScanST but nothing found. If it does exist, please move my post accordingly.
From other sites I know that people like paul daytona have worked with ScanST and when I find that site again, I will download the tool written to convert from Excel logged data format to Logworks 3.
All the instructions are written in French, which is a challenge for many.
I have schoolboy French, but with the aid of online translation and actually doing the installation and connection to my 15M, I have written a first draft of how to.
Even though I have read the how to on attaching a file, that does not appear in additional options.
To overcome that problem so it is online as a PDF, this link will take you to a Ducati forum on ScanST where I posted it this afternoon (Australian time)
http://www.ducati.ms/forums/241-tech-forum/445665-how-use-scanst-3-0-3-free-dignostic-utility-afr-datalogger-p8-15m-16m-59m-5am.html#post4871993
Richard
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There's a couple of very short lived threads. :D
CLICKY (http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=68634.0)
CLICKY (http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=74020.0)
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Thank you beetle for the links. They are indeed very short.
Through the Ducati forum I use, I am familiar with Impulsive Duc and his "work"
I would like to say data is everything, but data is only of use if you have the tools and know what to do with.
The Guzzi D, R and W tools, in conjunction with Tuner pro are amazing.
The best way for tuning, IMO, is real road/track data, for most of us.
Whilst through a friend I have access to a dyno, I prefer real data/conditions over a range of TP and RPM.
My work is so far away from bike tuning it is not funny.
My work involves complex analysis of data, information etc., so i understand the importance of having it - bikes, my work, whatever .....
As you guys have done, sharing is the best way forward.
Back to data. I am helping a friend with a highly modified Kawasaki ER6n engine. It is SO modified that original maps are way way off.
Solution - data log and remap. We are getting there and have another track day (data day) later in May.
Last dyno run, 3 maps ago, had us at 89 RWHP from a 650 water cooled twin. We absolutely know we have more than that now from rider feedback.
There is still fine tuning required at the top end and more to do (from logging) to make it more of a weapon than it is under real riding/racing conditions which is not WOT.
Bottom line is that my info is there if people want to use what appears to be a good tool rather than blindly adjust maps from what their bum/butt tells them on the bike.
Richard
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Update
If you click on Start, then Programs and select ScanST it will ask you if you want to update. You have opened 3.0.3 and four languages are available.
I did this and it did two updates. It placed version 3.0.4 in C:\....\ScanST
For Christian and others. This is what you need to do until Christian puts up an Install package for version 3.0.5 and changes which exe file the Start Programs points to.
When you Start Programs and ScanST it still opens 3.0.3
If you explore My Computer to the ScanST program folder you can open 304.exe and all languages are available.
For version 3.0.5a, download it from the link in the PDF linked in my first post.
Once downloaded copy it and paste it in C:\...\ScanST.
Whilst still in that folder, right click the 305.exe file and select Pin to start menu.
Now when you click on Start it is there ready for you to select and all four languages are available.
Christian advises that you do not need download the ScanSTDrivers as the drivers that suit the KKL etc are the drivers to use.
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but why scanst when there is guzzidiag? For logging on the road, the android version is better to use. Or the innovate lm2, as package. The innovate offers three times more resolution in logging.
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Agreed Paul. I see no reason to look further than the Android version for road logging.
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but why scanst when there is guzzidiag? For logging on the road, the android version is better to use. Or the innovate lm2, as package. The innovate offers three times more resolution in logging.
Thank you. I did not know that Guzzidiag had logging capabilities nor that there is an android version. I will have a look for the android version and info on logging.
I have an LC-1 and do not plan to buy the superior LM2 at the moment.
Richard
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but why scanst when there is guzzidiag? For logging on the road, the android version is better to use. Or the innovate lm2, as package. The innovate offers three times more resolution in logging.
Where can you download the Android version?
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Where can you download the Android version?
There is an android version of scan st: ScanM5X Data Logger
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=scantwin.scanmM5.AllinOne
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There is an android version of scan st: ScanM5X Data Logger
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=scantwin.scanmM5.AllinOne
Thanks Paul - what is not clear to me is if ScanM5X will work with the 15M.
I/we know ScanM5X will not work with the ELM Bluetooth adapter for the 15M.
The question is will ScanM5X work with the 15M or will Scan16M USB work on an android phone/tablet as per the sketch?
(http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af129/Yellowducati/Scan16M%20USB%20to%20android%20question_zpszd2ehmzn.jpg)
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Well I persevered with ScanST, now version 310, and have written a how to etc., which includes links back to this forum and more.
Why? I don't think the android version works with the 15M and I do not have an android device to test.
There does not appear to be an option to attach a PDF here, so this is a link to the Ducati.ms forum where I posted the draft.
http://www.ducati.ms/forums/241-tech-forum/517929-data-logging-mapping-info-questions.html#post5215065
Also a Dms member in Greece has built a bench testbed in the same vein as "Meinolf" did in another thread here. With his data and an analysis workbook I developed, we hope to understand what logged data is the base map and what invokes the acceleration map, to then allow analysis of logged data to modify the maps.