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Title: NGC thoughts on this MZ w/hack.
Post by: fotoguzzi on May 02, 2015, 06:36:26 PM
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/mcy/5006624496.html
Title: Re: NGC thoughts on this MZ w/hack.
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 02, 2015, 06:51:40 PM
Same basic bike as my Silver Star, but with different rear wheel and gearing. Never ridden one of those "Gespann" but would like to. With only 34 hp, I can't imagine it's very fast, but it should be loads of fun. Pretty good price too.
Title: Re: NGC thoughts on this MZ w/hack.
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 02, 2015, 07:14:07 PM
Looks to be in very nice condition. I'd say the bike alone is worth 2K+-  depending on condition. As a factory hack, I'd say the price is about right. It will be painfully slow, though, but you know that, right? MZ parts are hard to come by, but sort of available if you know the secret handshake..
Title: Re: NGC thoughts on this MZ w/hack.
Post by: grebmrof on May 02, 2015, 08:08:05 PM
Well those are nice hacks.  Track is narrow, car mounted close to bike, very compact outfit.  Seems like a pretty fair price, don't see many of them.  Rode a friends SR500 and that sidecar, very close in everything to this MZ version.  Not enough power for todays expressway speeds, but decent for back road riding and traveling.  Not remembering if the sidecar is braked or not, if it is, it should help quite a bit.  Spoked rear wheel might want to be checked, lots of side loads on rear bike wheels, they may have come with heavier gauge spokes.  I think it would make a nice ride...
Title: Re: NGC thoughts on this MZ w/hack.
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 02, 2015, 08:12:27 PM
Looks to be in very nice condition. I'd say the bike alone is worth 2K+-  depending on condition. As a factory hack, I'd say the price is about right. It will be painfully slow, though, but you know that, right? MZ parts are hard to come by, but sort of available if you know the secret handshake..

A Silver Star in that condition usually sells for ~ $2500, I paid $2200 for mine.
Title: Re: NGC thoughts on this MZ w/hack.
Post by: jrt on May 02, 2015, 08:46:57 PM
Isn't that a velorex sidecar?
Looks nice- have no idea about the price. 
Title: Re: NGC thoughts on this MZ w/hack.
Post by: John A on May 02, 2015, 09:23:18 PM
Looks ok to me ,Brad. I hope you get it!
Title: Re: NGC thoughts on this MZ w/hack.
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on May 02, 2015, 09:46:33 PM
  The hack is either Velorex or Jawa, but it is a nice rig.
Title: Re: NGC thoughts on this MZ w/hack.
Post by: Spuddy on May 02, 2015, 10:21:11 PM
Talk about going to the dark side...  Do it.
Title: Re: NGC thoughts on this MZ w/hack.
Post by: Arizona Wayne on May 02, 2015, 10:55:27 PM
I've ridden a MZ factory Gespann hack w/earls fork front end, same motor & car + Michelin small radial car tires 2up. Surprisingly it could cruise @ 62 mph effortlessly, shifted very smoothly, but had a small gas tank for long distance rides.  Steered very easily compared to   conventional MC front end/ hacks like I was used to.  My only issue with these is getting parts when needed since the motor & MZ are no longer made.  There's supposed to be only 1 person to get parts from now for the motor.  :D

The rig I rode had a built in 3rd brake too.
Title: Re: NGC thoughts on this MZ w/hack.
Post by: huub on May 03, 2015, 01:29:08 AM
the motor is the aircooled lump used in the atk and lots of other bikes
ron woods should be able to provide all the parts you will ever need
https://ronwoodracing.com/Rotax-c118.htm

if you want more power , these are easy to tune
i've got a 600 KTM with the same engine producing 50 HP, producing 34 HP in the MZ that engine should be bullet proof...
Title: Re: NGC thoughts on this MZ w/hack.
Post by: cruzziguzzi on May 03, 2015, 10:55:17 AM
I wonder where a fella would stand after separating the two and reducing the bike to a bagged commuter/light tourer then selling off the 'hack?

Todd.
Title: Re: NGC thoughts on this MZ w/hack.
Post by: Lee Bruns on May 03, 2015, 05:03:07 PM
Simple 562 Velorex sidecar. Small axle. Rotax engine (Good stuff). Would be nice to see the lower sidecar arm and mount points. Good quality stuff. Ask if it was purchased from Watertowns MZ dealer.
Title: Re: NGC thoughts on this MZ w/hack.
Post by: fotoguzzi on May 03, 2015, 05:07:14 PM
I'm not that interested.. if it had a LL fork maybe.. but that fork rake is for a single track right?
Title: Re: NGC thoughts on this MZ w/hack.
Post by: Arizona Wayne on May 03, 2015, 10:41:50 PM
I'm not that interested.. if it had a LL fork maybe.. but that fork rake is for a single track right?



The LL front end setup is better for a hack, but they aren't perfect either.  I'd ride it and then decide if I could live with it.  :)  But if you've never ridden a hack b4 you may not like how different it is too than a conventional bike.  :-\  No matter what it's a light rig for a hack.  :)
Title: Re: NGC thoughts on this MZ w/hack.
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 04, 2015, 08:49:40 AM
Be aware that the MZ Silver Star is a small motorcycle. If you're much larger than me (5' 6" tall, 145 lbs.) you may find it quite cramped.

The steering is rather quick/light solo, so might be about right for sidecar duty.

I wonder where a fella would stand after separating the two and reducing the bike to a bagged commuter/light tourer then selling off the 'hack?


Better just to buy a "regular" Silver Star (not a Gespann) if that is what you want. Removing the sidecar from the linked rig would likely leave you with an odd handling solo bike with low gearing. You'd really need to change the rear wheel and countershaft sprocket. 
Title: Re: NGC thoughts on this MZ w/hack.
Post by: AJ Huff on May 04, 2015, 10:22:57 AM
Looks like a whole lot of awesome to me.

-AJ