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Title: Speaking of old..
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 03, 2015, 07:37:29 AM
The gasket remover thing just reminded me. My ancient (naturally) half inch drill motor burned out yesterday drilling into concrete. It was a pretty good old tool from Montgomery Wards.  ~; Looks like I'll need to replace it. I don't do much of this cave man type of work, so I don't need or want to spend the big bux for a *really* good one.
Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: Perazzimx14 on May 03, 2015, 07:51:15 AM
What do you consider big bux?

My Milwaukee hole shooter was around $130 and my daughter will be able to pass it onto her grandchildren. We used them at work (commercial/industrial construction) almost extensively until cordless technology came up to speed several years ago. 
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: dilligaf on May 03, 2015, 07:54:47 AM
 :+1 on the Milwaukee.  :BEER:
Matt
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: Lannis on May 03, 2015, 07:56:03 AM
The gasket remover thing just reminded me. My ancient (naturally) half inch drill motor burned out yesterday drilling into concrete. It was a pretty good old tool from Montgomery Wards.  ~; Looks like I'll need to replace it. I don't do much of this cave man type of work, so I don't need or want to spend the big bux for a *really* good one.
Any suggestions?

We weren't speaking of "old", were we?
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: Mike Tashjian on May 03, 2015, 08:18:34 AM
Got a 6 1/2 inch Skil saw and a 1/2 Thor metal bodied drill from a brother in law Thirty years ago.  The Skil saw is still being used regularly and the Thor was passed on after being rewired near the switch.  Plugging into a GFI is a good way to know if an old tool is leaking electricity and in need of service.  By the way there are always Hole shooters on Craigs list if you don't need a new one.  Mike
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: tiger_one on May 03, 2015, 09:15:03 AM
I have a J.C. Pennys 1/4" drill or is 3/8", I forget.  Square motor box.
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: Matt Story on May 03, 2015, 09:21:54 AM
My old metal cased drill motor burned out driving deck screws a couple years ago.  I don't have much use for a 120V drill, but needed one to finish my deck.  I went shopping and opted for a drill with switchable hammer function.  I went with this Rockwell RC3136  http://www.walmart.com/ip/Rockwell-ShopSeries-7-Amp-1-2-Hammer-Drill/15162057 (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Rockwell-ShopSeries-7-Amp-1-2-Hammer-Drill/15162057) that now sells at Walmart for $56.  (I avoid Walmart whenever possible, and  bought mine at Menards $65-70? where it apparently is no longer available).  It seems well made and has been fault free.  I've used it a few times to drill holes in my driveway maybe 3/8 to 1/2" w/o trouble.  I would recommend it.

Matt
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 03, 2015, 09:39:41 AM
Hmm . Monkey Wards, tools , Chuckie , what , an old metal bodied Milwaukee sold through Wards , vintage 1956 ? :D Hitachi and Makita make pretty decent stuff also .

  Dusty

Sounds about right. I bought it used..  ;D
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 03, 2015, 09:42:32 AM
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What do you consider big bux?

Over a hunnerd. I can find under a hunnerd in the couch cushions..  ;D :BEER: Sounds like Matt has a winner.
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: 56Pan on May 03, 2015, 09:44:25 AM
The old cast aluminum power tools are my favorite.  Rugged and take punishment.  If you're in no hurry, you might try these folks. http://www.southernwinding.com/services.html
I've used them for a '50's vintage Craftsman cast alum. jigsaw and one other power tool.  They've done good work for me.  This is providing the gearbox isn't damaged on your old Wards tool.  If you do get the armature rewound, be sure to clean out the old grease in the gearbox and add new.
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: Guzzistajohn on May 03, 2015, 09:50:17 AM
If I just needed to punch a few holes in concrete I think I'd go rent a proper hammer drill for a half day.
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 03, 2015, 09:54:08 AM
If I just needed to punch a few holes in concrete I think I'd go rent a proper hammer drill for a half day.

If I would have done that, I wouldn't need to be replacing my old monkey wards drill..  ;D
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: Guzzistajohn on May 03, 2015, 10:03:20 AM
If I would have done that, I wouldn't need to be replacing my old monkey wards drill..  ;D

Kinda what I was thinking Chuckles, but I didn't want to come off sounding like a smart arse :) I have one you can use, ride over to the Ozarks and get it!
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: RinkRat II on May 03, 2015, 10:28:03 AM
Hey there drill killer ~;, I've used this company on several tools that I only use once or twice a year and their recon equipment has worked well.
 He're an example for ya. Happy Hunting!
http://www.cpooutlets.com/factory-reconditioned-porter-cable-pc70thdr-tradesman-1-2-in--vsr-2-speed-hammer-drill/pcbrpc70thdr,default,pd.html?start=22&cgid=reconditioned-drills (http://www.cpooutlets.com/factory-reconditioned-porter-cable-pc70thdr-tradesman-1-2-in--vsr-2-speed-hammer-drill/pcbrpc70thdr,default,pd.html?start=22&cgid=reconditioned-drills)



     Paul B :BEER:
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: nobleswood on May 03, 2015, 10:39:39 AM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Harbor Freight yet. Their basic motor tools are almost disposable.

As a contractor, if I'm going to be using the tool a lot I'll spend to get what I consider to be professional grade equipment. If it's a one off, Harbor freight. On the belief that if it gets me through this job it's paid for and anything else is a bonus. That said, I burned out a 7" grinder halfway through a job, 3 days into buying it and Harbor Freight just gave me a new one. Which is good customer service in my eyes.

CPO outlet is here in Columbus, Ohio. I've bought a lot of Bosch tooling from them. They have very competitive prices, they are on Amazons website and have to be. That's were I get my professional grade stuff.

That's my 2c worth.
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: ken farr on May 03, 2015, 11:20:21 AM
In my humble opinion, Harbor Freight.

They are coming around, they aren't Snap On or Milwaukee,  but they're coming around.

I'm sure you could get a proper hammer drill and another 1/2" corded drill for the cost of a name brand.

Again, for the occasional user, a good choice.


kjf
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: rodekyll on May 03, 2015, 12:42:04 PM
I'm surprised nobody has suggested the drill-du-jor at your local garage sale/pawn shop.  For as much as you'll use it, pre-loved quality is probably fine.

Also, in a blatant effort to pander to the guzzisti in you, how about servicing the one you've got?  90%* of power tool failures are worn out brushes.  I do a lively barter overhauling grinders, saws and drill motors for tradesmen.




*number grabbed out of my ass
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: 1Sourdough on May 04, 2015, 10:14:50 PM
You might try a pawn shop.  Sometimes one can find decent equipment in them at less than Harbor Freight pricing.
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: AJ Huff on May 04, 2015, 10:31:20 PM
For something you rarely will use? Pawn Shop.

-AJ
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: canuck750 on May 04, 2015, 10:37:04 PM
I lost a rear footpeg off my BMW and found a used peg from a Suzuki Burgman that looked close enough but it needed some modifications, a Harbour Freight $13.00 grinder, a couple bucks for a disc and the job was done. How they can sell a pretty decent grinder for $13.00 is just crazy. The sales clerk wanted to sell me a 2 year warranty, really!! for $13.00 I can risk the grinder crapping out.

I bought a 3/8" drill off them a couple years ago and its still working fine, It was around $15.00!
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: Lannis on May 05, 2015, 01:49:19 PM
For something you rarely will use? Pawn Shop.

-AJ

Our pawn shops here must be different.   They will typically give someone $10 on the $100 for what they take in, and then try to sell them for 80%-of-new prices.   

Their prices are so high for used-up tools, instruments, and equipment that I don't even have the heart to make them an offer, which is what I'm sure they're looking for .....

I've tried, believe me I've tried.   They usually have a very eclectic mix of tools, musical instruments, guns, and jewelry and are interesting to look at, but I've never seen a deal I'd give money for.

Lannis
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: jas67 on May 05, 2015, 01:52:27 PM
The gasket remover thing just reminded me. My ancient (naturally) half inch drill motor burned out yesterday drilling into concrete. It was a pretty good old tool from Montgomery Wards.  ~; Looks like I'll need to replace it. I don't do much of this cave man type of work, so I don't need or want to spend the big bux for a *really* good one.
Any suggestions?

Borrow or rent a proper "rotary hammer" drill.
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 05, 2015, 02:07:39 PM
Hey there drill killer ~;, I've used this company on several tools that I only use once or twice a year and their recon equipment has worked well.
 He're an example for ya. Happy Hunting!
http://www.cpooutlets.com/factory-reconditioned-porter-cable-pc70thdr-tradesman-1-2-in--vsr-2-speed-hammer-drill/pcbrpc70thdr,default,pd.html?start=22&cgid=reconditioned-drills (http://www.cpooutlets.com/factory-reconditioned-porter-cable-pc70thdr-tradesman-1-2-in--vsr-2-speed-hammer-drill/pcbrpc70thdr,default,pd.html?start=22&cgid=reconditioned-drills)



     Paul B :BEER:

Thanks for that. Ordered. $39.95, shipped free..  ;D
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 05, 2015, 02:36:50 PM
I'm surprised nobody has suggested the drill-du-jor at your local garage sale/pawn shop.  For as much as you'll use it, pre-loved quality is probably fine.

Also, in a blatant effort to pander to the guzzisti in you, how about servicing the one you've got?  90%* of power tool failures are worn out brushes.  I do a lively barter overhauling grinders, saws and drill motors for tradesmen.




*number grabbed out of my ass

I was smelling hot insulation, but only had a little deeper to go..  ~;  ::)
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: 56Pan on May 05, 2015, 08:22:38 PM
I was smelling hot insulation, but only had a little deeper to go..  ~;  ::)

That's likely the armature starting to short out. 
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: RinkRat II on May 05, 2015, 09:30:37 PM
Glad it worked out for you Chuck, I've used them on occasion over the past 10 years or so and have had no problems. Now that your on their list they'll send e-mails on deals they think you need. Most times I just delete 'em but now and then they"ll surpise me with a blowout I just cant resist. Enjoy your drill!


     Paul B :BEER:
Title: Re: Speaking of old..
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 06, 2015, 05:56:10 AM
Glad it worked out for you Chuck, I've used them on occasion over the past 10 years or so and have had no problems. Now that your on their list they'll send e-mails on deals they think you need. Most times I just delete 'em but now and then they"ll surpise me with a blowout I just cant resist. Enjoy your drill!


     Paul B :BEER:

No, they'll send emails to my spam account.  ;D