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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Jerryd on May 08, 2015, 07:44:41 AM
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Nice article this month called "20 Best Adventure Bikes to Buy Now". Both the Aprilia Caponord, and Stelvio NTX are mentioned.
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Nice article this month called "20 Best Adventure Bikes to Buy Now". Both the Aprilia Caponord, and Stelvio NTX are mentioned.
I wouldn't have said that there WERE 20 distinct "adventure bikes". If there's only 22, it sort of makes the job of choosing the 20 best easy .... !!
Lannis
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I wouldn't have said that there WERE 20 distinct "adventure bikes". If there's only 22, it sort of makes the job of choosing the 20 best easy .... !!
I have not seen the article, but I thought the same. I suppose if you start splitting BMW's GS and Triumph's Tiger lines into their individual models you can make your way to 20 and beyond fairly easily...
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Nice article this month called "20 Best Adventure Bikes to Buy Now". Both the Aprilia Caponord, and Stelvio NTX are mentioned.
http://www.mensjournal.com/expert-advice/the-20-best-adventure-bikes-to-buy-now-20150506
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http://www.mensjournal.com/expert-advice/the-20-best-adventure-bikes-to-buy-now-20150506
I'm with Lannis on this one; they listed about all. Worthless article unless you want to know all the adv. bikes out there. I'd love to know how much research actually went into those picks <yeah right>.
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What a tough crowd. Why not just read the article for what its worth without the criticism :-\
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...... for what its worth .......
That's the problem!
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What a tough crowd. Why not just read the article for what its worth without the criticism :-\
Jerry, when someone states these are the "Best" they better talk about why they are considered "Best". They simply put the "Best" in the heading to grab attention, then went on to list about every ADV bike. The content doesn't match the title and it's silly. There is NO content regarding his picks. So... are these really the best? Why? It's nice to see the pictures in one place of the different bikes (as well as a chosen Guzzi). If the title read "20 ADV bikes to consider" then this would have been perfect for the content. Now you know why we're being critical.
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What a tough crowd. Why not just read the article for what its worth without the criticism :-\
You think this is whining?
Don't even try to think of the reaction if the Stelvio had been omitted!
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Jerry, when someone states these are the "Best" they better talk about why they are considered "Best". They simply put the "Best" in the heading to grab attention, then went on to list about every ADV bike. The content doesn't match the title and it's silly. There is NO content regarding his picks. So... are these really the best? Why? It's nice to see the pictures in one place of the different bikes (as well as a chosen Guzzi). If the title read "20 ADV bikes to consider" then this would have been perfect for the content. Now you know why we're being critical.
Also, "Mens Journal" is a general "lifestyle magazine", having nothing to do, usually, with motorcycles. We, however, are hugely focused on motorcycles.
So we're sort of like a bunch of Sandia PhD physicists critiquing a "Popular Science" article on "How An Atom Smasher Works".....
Lannis
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It is nice that there is at least a basic article in that magazine. A lot of guys may be casually thinking about a motorcycle, thumbing through a magazine while waiting for their turn in the barber's chair. I imagine some of them don't even know Moto Guzzi was an option. Hopefully now they do.
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I didn't know there were 20 adventure bikes being sold.
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My brother is totally into adventure bikes. It seems to be a very hot market segment at present.
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The article is an amateur act. "Fjord" for ford? Really?
The Stelvio writeup says, in effect, "This Italian bike may be unreliable but if you like that sort of thing, this is the sort of thing you'd like."
They don't mention reliability in the Aprilia or Ducati pieces.
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Saw this jut a few minutes ago. Its tough NOT to picture yourself hauling it around like a boss when you see someone making it look this effortless. It's proabably mostly the bike, right? Won't lie, makes me want one. . .
http://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/video-chris-birch-riding-an-1190-like-a-dirt-bike
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Saw this jut a few minutes ago. Its tough NOT to picture yourself hauling it around like a boss when you see someone making it look this effortless. It's proabably mostly the bike, right? Won't lie, makes me want one. . .
http://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/video-chris-birch-riding-an-1190-like-a-dirt-bike
Beautiful countryside, and really off-the-wall skillful riding.
But it might as well be another planet as far as me wanting a KTM now to ride in the dirt. Sort of like watching guys climb school buses on GasGas trials bikes doesn't make me want to buy one ... 'cause I ain't doin' all that!
lannis
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Was the TW 200 near the top? It is one of the best. Its' only shortcoming is too small a gas tank.
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Its' only shortcoming is too small a gas tank.
I consider that an awful lot of bikes fall in to that category. Without dissing HD, for the life of me I could never work out why they put peanut tanks on some of their cruisers.
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I consider that an awful lot of bikes fall in to that category. Without dissing HD, for the life of me I could never work out why they put peanut tanks on some of their cruisers.
They've always done that. Old 74s from the 50s and 60s had 3.5 gallon TOTAL dual tanks. Sportsters had 1.9 gallon tanks. All the BSAs and Triumphs for the American market had tanks around 2.5 to 3 gallons, where the "Home Market" bikes for the UK and Europe had 4 and 5 gallon tanks.
I think it's because motorcycles have never (present company excluded, of course) been serious transportation in the USA. They've always been toys for a 50-mile ride in the mountains, or for cruising the beach, or running bar to bar. And since small tanks looked cooler and cleaner than the big bulbous ones meant to carry lots of fuel, then small tanks is what we got, and the few people that DID ride long distances changed tanks or came up with another solution.
In the UK, bikes were used where we'd use a car; for getting to work, or with a hack for carrying the family down to the seashore on a bank holiday. They were serious transportation, mostly, and NOT toys. Quite a few of the guys I ride with locally don't put 500 miles on their bikes in a year. You could have a 2-quart gas tank on those and still be happy .....
Lannis
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Beautiful countryside, and really off-the-wall skillful riding.
But it might as well be another planet as far as me wanting a KTM now to ride in the dirt. Sort of like watching guys climb school buses on GasGas trials bikes doesn't make me want to buy one ... 'cause I ain't doin' all that!
lannis
Not like you ever could "doin all that"
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Who cares about the piece on Adventure bikes? I clicked over to "Seven Biggest Grooming Mistakes For Men" and I am fascinated.
I mean, who knew that I shouldn't cut my own hair?
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Cary Grant cut his own hair.
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What on earth is a 'Men's Journal'? It sounds like one of those awful soft core porn magazines that people claimed they "Only bought for the articles." ;) Really' 'Men's Journal', give me strength! ::). Almost as silly as believing what is written my motoring/motorcycle journalists....
Pete
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What on earth is a 'Men's Journal'? It sounds like one of those awful soft core porn magazines that people claimed they "Only bought for the articles." ;) Really' 'Men's Journal', give me strength! ::)..
Pete
It pretty much is.
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Aren't all bikes "Adventure Bikes"?
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What on earth is a 'Men's Journal'? It sounds like one of those awful soft core porn magazines that people claimed they "Only bought for the articles." ;) Really' 'Men's Journal', give me strength! ::). Almost as silly as believing what is written my motoring/motorcycle journalists....
Pete
Not familiar with it, but "Men's Health" shows up at the grocery store magazine stand. I'll let you guess who the target demographic for THAT one is ..... !
Lannis
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Men's Journal was founded by Jann Wenner (Rolling Stone) about 20 years ago -- to compete with Outside magazine.
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Aren't all bikes "Adventure Bikes"?
Three of us rode Cali's to the Dust-2-Dawson NAR over summer solstice one year. It's one of the larger 'adv' gatherings in North America. Many hundreds of somehow unique but identical examples of the streetrunning dirt bike motif. I was lectured by several patient event vets that I had the wrong tool for the job -- to do ADVENTURE riding REQUIRES an ADVENTURE bike. My only defense was that I feel my bike isn't the adventure -- what I do with it is.
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Who cares about the piece on Adventure bikes? I clicked over to "Seven Biggest Grooming Mistakes For Men" and I am fascinated.
I mean, who knew that I shouldn't cut my own hair?
Oh no, that's ME!!!!!!
When I could do serious mountain biking I found that cooling the head was a necessity. Grab clippers, put on the #4 comb and pastafazzoola, cool and cheap (Guzzi content) haircut. still doin' it after 5.1/2 years off the bike. ;D
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Who cares about the piece on Adventure bikes? I clicked over to "Seven Biggest Grooming Mistakes For Men" and I am fascinated.
I mean, who knew that I shouldn't cut my own hair?
Haaa!
I figured if I could clipper cut a wriggling cocker spaniel, then I could give myself a trim. Maybe it looks like the spaniel's got even- I don't care. Saves $15.
(http://ui.thoughtbot.com/assets/red-suspenders-boy.png)
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Three of us rode Cali's to the Dust-2-Dawson NAR over summer solstice one year. It's one of the larger 'adv' gatherings in North America. Many hundreds of somehow unique but identical examples of the streetrunning dirt bike motif. I was lectured by several patient event vets that I had the wrong tool for the job -- to do ADVENTURE riding REQUIRES an ADVENTURE bike. My only defense was that I feel my bike isn't the adventure -- what I do with it is.
True, when someon started that conversation with me I would chime in " how about those two old geezers that rode to Prudhoe Bay on Vespa's?"
You could sense the instant shrinkage.
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And only a properly trained barber can give you a professional looking haircut using the latest modern styles and techniques.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/haircut_in_kungfu_style_01_zpspruc4aka.jpg)
:D
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LOL ! I thought I was the only cheap bastard who cut his own hair. Last professional haircut I received was f***'d up so I figured I'd save the $7.00 and butcher myself. Maybe one of these days I'll get a Flowbee.
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LOL ! I thought I was the only cheap bastard who cut his own hair. Last professional haircut I received was f***'d up so I figured I'd save the $7.00 and butcher myself. Maybe one of these days I'll get a Flowbee.
I used to go to a regular barber shop. Sit and wait an hour for some old dude to cut my hair for $11.
Then I got smart. Started going to a "Great Clips" shop, where generally cute girls cut your hair with no waiting, make a note of the clipper settings etc., and enter what they did that you liked into the computer so you can get the same haircut next time. My wife says it's a MUCH better haircut and it's only $17, sometimes $10 with a sale coupon. There's everything to be said for it .... If I tried to cut my own hair I'd never be allowed into polite society again.
Lannis
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What a tough crowd. Why not just read the article for what its worth without the criticism :-\
YEAH, like that would ever happen.
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YEAH, like that would ever happen.
It'll happen when Luap changes the
"Wild Guzzi General Discussion Forum" to the
"Wild Guzzi Read It and Shut Up Forum".
Or the
"Wild Guzzi Positive Comments Only Forum"
Doesn't sound like any fun to me.
Lannis
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Sarcasm & criticism dont cost nuthin'. - (guzzi content)
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Hey... this forum has turned me into a "hooligan" rider since my wrist got excited one day and I let a little sound out the pipes. I'm flattered and thankful for this site and the negative feedback. :bow ;-T
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Let's see if we can round up some more criticism from the "experts" ::)
http://www.mensjournal.com/expert-advice/the-20-best-motorcycle-roads-in-the-world-20150430