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Title: Texas Twister
Post by: brlawson on May 10, 2015, 08:44:57 AM

Saw this tragedy on MGNOC facebook page. Carnage from the last round of tornadoes. Hope the owner fared better.

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Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: oldbike54 on May 10, 2015, 09:00:20 AM
 OH MY ! Is this anyone here ? We have another serious line of super cells approaching Muskogee , hopefully this will be the last batch although the forecast calls for storms all day  :P

  Dusty
Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: LaMojo on May 10, 2015, 09:40:02 AM
RV parks aren't a good place to be with storms around. Hopefully, everyone is OK. Looks like the weather today, in the mid West, is going to be rough.
Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: davedel44 on May 10, 2015, 10:06:16 AM
Plate holder says RPM. I believe Dallas Area.  Twister in Cisco West of Ft. Worth yesterday.  Dallas area getting hit again today.

Hope rider and his/her family is OK.

North Texas riders check in if you can.  

Good luck to all my Guzzi brothers in harms way because of this horrible weather.  

Dave
Galveston
Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: lucydad on May 10, 2015, 11:39:20 AM
Got close friends in SE Oklahoma...looks like they have taken a beating the past few days...

I detest twisters...
Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on May 10, 2015, 12:33:51 PM
 All tornados suck. Some harder than others.
 Except those made by GM.
Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: Late to the party on May 10, 2015, 05:37:30 PM
That image is enough to make a grown man cry... and some adult children like myself stamp their feet and scream like a little girl.
Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: Texas Turnip on May 11, 2015, 05:58:03 AM
I'm 12 miles east of the town of Van that got hit by a twister. Waiting for daylight to survey what damage I have here at the Oleo Ranch, then get chainsaw and see who I can help.

Sometimes a broken bulb on your Guzzi is not the worst thing that could happen to you ???.
Tex
Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: Tobit on May 11, 2015, 08:13:12 AM
We've been seeing the remnants of this cel or front here in Memphis since Saturday morning.  I heard about the twister in Van TX on the drive in this morning.  Several people are still missing.  Prayers for those affected and that survivors are found.

Our scout Venture Patrol was on a training camp and day hike Friday night and Saturday at Shelby Forest, north of Memphis.  Right after breaking camp and finishing breakfast at 7am, the heavy rain and lots of very close lightning began.  Rain is one thing, lightning quite another.  Hike rescheduled.

Tobit
Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: davedel44 on May 11, 2015, 12:08:06 PM
Glad you are OK.  How about Beaver?  This weather has been a Bi**h.  We've missed the worst of it so far. (Knocking on wood.) If worse comes to worse fashion a shelter from your numerous Guzzis. ~;
Take care and regards to Beaver.

Dave
Galveston

Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: Texas Turnip on May 11, 2015, 05:05:04 PM
The latest is two confirmed dead and still have 3 missing. They didn't want extra people in town while they are securing power lines and looking for the missing. Miss Beaver is ok.

Van is a unique oil town with oil wells on the school grounds and even in some folks back yard. Whenever I have a Guzzi visitor from out of state, I always take them to Van as they find it hard to believe where the oil wells are. 30% of the town suffered damages. Was a beautiful east Texas town. Bet you wont see people holding up signs saying "Fema send help". Nope.

Tex
Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: davedel44 on May 11, 2015, 06:35:15 PM
Glad to hear Beaver is OK.  Growing up in Wichita Falls l know what havoc they cause. Rode through Van the last time I was in Lindale.  Rode past the huge High School and thought how does a small town afford such a beautiful school and stadium.  Then I looked across the highway and saw the oil wells.

Hope the missing survive.  You know Texans are resilient.  Wish them well.

Dave
Galveston
Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: rodekyll on May 11, 2015, 07:12:52 PM
The reports we're getting say that you folks got clobbered pretty good.  I wish everyone in the affected area the best.   ;-T
Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: johnr on May 11, 2015, 07:28:37 PM
It is my impression that these twister thingies are on the increase, both in number and intensity. Do you think this is true?

I used to be able to confidently say that we don't get them here in NZ, but a while back one buzz sawed its way through part of Auckland.

Tex and Beaver, as you both apparently live in harms way, I'm glad you are OK.
Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: rodekyll on May 11, 2015, 07:47:13 PM
Weather changes are very fast.  Climate and weather patterns work more slowly.  For example, ice ages happen in roughly a 14,000 year cycle -- maybe.  It will take years to plot enough data points to say one way or another.

Buuuutttt . . .  Last year Washington state had at least 4 tornadoes -- twice the number I'd previously heard about there in my lifetime.  I also heard of a couple waterspouts, which are very rare.  So I think we can say last year was 'unusual'.  I don't know if we can call it a trend though.
Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: Lannis on May 11, 2015, 07:58:46 PM
It is my impression that these twister thingies are on the increase, both in number and intensity. Do you think this is true?

I used to be able to confidently say that we don't get them here in NZ, but a while back one buzz sawed its way through part of Auckland.

Tex and Beaver, as you both apparently live in harms way, I'm glad you are OK.

I really don't think the weather has changed at all from 50 years ago.

What HAS changed is:

1) Our ability to detect and predict storms and tornadoes, following them minute by minute to a 10-foot location.    Tornadoes used to happen and no one ever knew because ...

2) ... there was no one living there.   Towns ended and there was nothing but open farmland.   Today, much of that open farmland is covered in housing developments, double-wide manufactured homes, and trailers, the latter two of which are terribly subject to damage from storms.    But now, when a storm DOES hit ....

3) .... the breathless bubble-headed bleached blondes from TWC, Fox, CNN, MSNBC, and everyone else with advertising minutes to sell is there with On-The-Minute, On-Site coverage 24 hours a day, playing the same tapes and images over and over and over for three days.   Back in the day, a twister could wreck a small town and no one would even report on it, much less show film of it for 15 hours.

This is a big world, and the forces that put it together and move it are way more than we can do much of anything about.    We could take every nuclear bomb in the entire world, and we couldn't blow up Mt. Everest with them .....

Lannis
Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: LowRyter on May 11, 2015, 08:40:48 PM
It is my impression that these twister thingies are on the increase, both in number and intensity. Do you think this is true?

I used to be able to confidently say that we don't get them here in NZ, but a while back one buzz sawed its way through part of Auckland.

Tex and Beaver, as you both apparently live in harms way, I'm glad you are OK.

I think it's gotten worse.  We have better warning but we never know it it's Armageddon or a wind storm.  It could be that cities have gotten larger that there's more area to get clobbered.  

Growing up, I used to think it was an old folks worry running to the cellar.  Now I have a cellar in the garage.  My Grandfather was really afraid of storms.  We used to actually tease him and laugh about it whenever we had a thunderstorm.  He finally told that us that him and his brother (I didn't know he had a brother) were caught in storm as kids of grade school age (I am guessing this was in 19 teens) and they grabbed on to tree branches to keep from getting blown away.  Now I understand the terror and trauma that he endured.  I won't say I am sorry I teased him about it but it really was PTSD experience every time we got a thunderstorm.

Having seen the destruction where I've never seen it before, I think it's worse.
Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: oldbike54 on May 11, 2015, 10:19:19 PM
 Actually Oklahoma has been in a relative quiet period based on the numbers of tornadoes , but the size and intensity have increased dramatically . The night of the monster that hit Moore OK in '99 , there was another even bigger one on the ground that only blew down some black jack trees . The monster that destroyed so much in Moore last year was not quite as large as the '99 storm that literally ripped up the ground , looked like a giant disc pulled by the Hulk had come through . Tell the people of Greensburg KS that tornadoes aren't bigger these days .

  Dusty
Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: johnr on May 12, 2015, 10:19:25 AM
  We could take every nuclear bomb in the entire world, and we couldn't blow up Mt. Everest with them .....

Lannis

... well, it's a bit off topic Lannis, but that's not actually true. Unlike the fission bomb where there are physical limits, the fusion bomb has none. They can be made as powerful as required (You could blow the planet to smithereens if you desired to build one of such power)

Speaking of twisters, by a strange coincidence one stuck part of Wellington today and did a bit of damage. Nothing like the big ones you get in the US though. Those ones are making the news here.
Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: Lannis on May 12, 2015, 03:29:43 PM
... well, it's a bit off topic Lannis, but that's not actually true. Unlike the fission bomb where there are physical limits, the fusion bomb has none. They can be made as powerful as required (You could blow the planet to smithereens if you desired to build one of such power)

 

I don't suppose anyone actually knows, since no one has actually done it.   I doubt it's possible.  Sort of "Give me a place to stand, and a lever long enough, and I can move the earth" thing.   Maybe.

Not too far off topic.   We were talking about man's helplessness when he pits his abilities against the forces of nature ....

Lannis
Title: Re: Texas Twister
Post by: lucydad on May 13, 2015, 06:16:32 AM
We had flood warnings all night due to training super heavy rains.  There was a big water spout offshore GOM, I think near Freeport?

Lovely spring to summer transition, very wet, very violent.