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Title: Pescetarianism
Post by: the Bailey on May 19, 2015, 08:56:01 PM
have decided to make a major change to my diet.  no health issues, but as I get older I figure I better at least try to take better care of myself.  in a nutshell. you can eat whatever you want as long as its not chicken pork or beef.  I eat out for lunch most everyday, and its not as hard as a challenge as one would think ( granted im only 3 weeks into this experiment ).  Asian food, Mexican, and Italian all can be meatless.  or interchange seafood.  upscale burger places will offer a veggie burger or Portobello mushroom.  the only place that is difficult is bbq.  and as a Texan I can eat hella lot of bbq.  but such is life. and as a displaced Chicagoan, no more Italian beef.  dipped. on the plus side, can still have scallops, lobster, and crawfish..  what more can you ask for.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: normzone on May 19, 2015, 09:24:31 PM
 :pop

I'll be curious to see how this thread goes, will volunteer my experiences / opinions on down the page. Good choice on the fish though.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Nic in Western NYS on May 19, 2015, 09:35:59 PM
curious - why no chicken?
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: the Bailey on May 19, 2015, 09:46:30 PM
the texture.  and also cause chicken is so boring.  Anthony Bourdain says that people order chicken when they don't know what they want to eat.  but really, chicken conditions are fowl.  they de beak them to keep from pecking each other.  they are so heavily breasted that they cant walk.  but mostly.  except for fried chicken, or a nice smoked chicken.  chicken is boring.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: MotoGoosy on May 19, 2015, 11:32:58 PM
Someday, I'll share my recipe for Appleburgers with y'all.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Far star on May 19, 2015, 11:53:06 PM
Well, if you ever make it to the Yukon you can try a local delicacy, bum guts. It really is a well known food item here. It's the last few feet of the moose's intestine, before it's ahole. Washed, chopped like onion rings, fried in butter. MMMM. Personally, don't like it. Cant wait for the comments on this one.

I kinda think I'm not doing much for tourism Yukon.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: pressureangle on May 20, 2015, 12:11:27 AM
Well, if you ever make it to the Yukon you can try a local delicacy, bum guts. It really is a well known food item here. It's the last few feet of the moose's intestine, before it's ahole. Washed, chopped like onion rings, fried in butter. MMMM. Personally, don't like it. Cant wait for the comments on this one.

I kinda think I'm not doing much for tourism Yukon.

Interesting take on Stump Woopin's.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: not-fishing on May 20, 2015, 12:44:19 AM
Here's my reply and my religion which I will cling to.

(http://a.tgcdn.net/images/products/zoom/c399_tactical_canned_bacon.jpg)

Besides you need to eat meat if you want the muscle

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Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Penderic on May 20, 2015, 03:15:31 AM
Do you use a patch or gum to help deal with the withdrawal?
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Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: rodekyll on May 20, 2015, 05:30:48 AM
Except for the chicken, pork, and beef part, that's pretty much my diet.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Nic in Western NYS on May 20, 2015, 06:14:20 AM
Well, if you ever make it to the Yukon you can try a local delicacy, bum guts. It really is a well known food item here. It's the last few feet of the moose's intestine, before it's ahole. Washed, chopped like onion rings, fried in butter. MMMM. Personally, don't like it. Cant wait for the comments on this one.

I kinda think I'm not doing much for tourism Yukon.
Bucket list of places to visit: YUKON
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Gliderjohn on May 20, 2015, 08:00:36 AM
Quote from the bailey:
Quote
they de beak them to keep from pecking each other.

Even when they are open ranged, without de beaking some chickens will be killed or injured. Where do you think the term "pecking order" came from?
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: NCAmother on May 20, 2015, 08:10:19 AM
I'm not a nutritionist, but shell foods like lobster and shrimp are high in cholesterol.  Not sure about scallops/oysters/etc.  Good luck on the diet friend :)
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on May 20, 2015, 08:50:48 AM
Quote from the bailey:
Even when they are open ranged, without de beaking some chickens will be killed or injured. Where do you think the term "pecking order" came from?
GliderJohn


Well of course some will be killed, or would you rather they be eaten alive?
  Dead fish are very good for you as are water bugs, (lobster, shrimp, etc.) especially the etc.
 And what about dead baby sheep, (lamb)?
 Then of course if you are polynesian, there is dead spam (substitute for long pig) and a favorite since WW2 introduced it to islanders.
 And if you have been a soldier you must consider S.O.S.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Penderic on May 20, 2015, 10:25:26 AM
No Veggies please.

Chocolate!

Chocolate Boots and Bacon, yum yum!

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Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: 190 Octane on May 20, 2015, 10:59:55 AM
No chicken, but is turkey allowed?  That could fix the BBQ issue, as most BBQ places sell smoked turkey these days.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on May 20, 2015, 11:38:34 AM
  Nicotined Turkey causes cancer of the drumsticks.  No smoking please.

 BTW, was that ten pointer 240pounds dressed out or on the hoof?
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Late to the party on May 20, 2015, 11:55:27 AM
Homo sapiens, like most primates, evolved eating the occasional bit of flesh. The emphasis there being "a bit". Depending on your station in life, as long as meat consumption does not dominate, your system will not suffer. Unfortunately, the greatest single problem with the food we eat is what happens to it before said food reaches your mouth. "Processing" changes the nature of foodstuffs in a fundamental way. IMO, it is those changes that are responsible for the majority of "dis-eases" we suffer.

Go back to being a hunter-gatherer. Gather ye some grains and make beer. Catch ye a fish and eat it. That is the sort of behavior which might grant you a long life.

As for moose assholes? I'll pass.

Lateness.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: twhitaker on May 20, 2015, 12:17:24 PM
I'm not a nutritionist, but shell foods like lobster and shrimp are high in cholesterol.  Not sure about scallops/oysters/etc.  Good luck on the diet friend :)

These salt water creatures are also loaded with..........salt.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Late to the party on May 20, 2015, 12:25:17 PM
These salt water creatures are also loaded with..........salt.

Lordy! Say it ain't so!
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: twhitaker on May 20, 2015, 12:30:55 PM
Lordy! Say it ain't so!

That makes them taste even better when dipped in salted butter.  ;D
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: segesta on May 20, 2015, 01:04:52 PM
From what I understand--and pretty much everything we think we know about diets turns out to be wrong--cholesterol in food doesn't matter. Saturated fat in food is what is metabolized by the liver into cholesterol, and in turn is supposedly bad for your arteries.

But lean protein is almost always good. Just avoid sugar, which is basically poison, and you'll be halfway there.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on May 20, 2015, 02:18:24 PM
 The cholesterol in Lobster as mostly from bathing the bugs in butter before putting it in your mouth.
 Without salt, you will die.  Moderation is the key in all things except sex.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: normzone on May 20, 2015, 02:31:14 PM
Our brains do much better with some fish oils in the diet - two of the three craziest people I know are lifelong vegetarians. I know, correlation does not mean causation, but...

Chicken is usually boring, but spiced properly it's alright. And the free range / organic versions taste so much better.

Meat in moderation is good for you, we have the teeth of an omnivore for a reason. Me, I could live on fish, and eat it at the slightest excuse, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: andrewdonald1 on May 20, 2015, 02:57:40 PM
Its best if you can take meat out of the diet -It lightens the body.
Information I've been told is that with the hormones etc in the meat now, it can take up to 6 mos for it to clear out of the body.
If you're going to do red meat, recommend organic only.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: pebra on May 20, 2015, 03:00:55 PM
There are lots of various sorts of fishes that taste differently and with different textures.
Each can be cooked in many different ways, many can be eaten raw, smoked, marinated, ceviche, ...........
Fish is simply a vastly bigger universe than beef, pork and chicken.  :drool
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: normzone on May 20, 2015, 03:51:04 PM
Eating raw fish, cooked octopus and rice and reading this.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Late to the party on May 20, 2015, 04:00:30 PM
"two of the three craziest people I know are lifelong vegetarians."

Think I'll have a salad... with a side of semi-automatic weaponry.

Lateness.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: lorazepam on May 20, 2015, 05:33:35 PM
I like my diet of little debbie snack cakes and chocolate milk. It is meat free, but may contain bits of rodents that fall in during processing.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: krglorioso on May 20, 2015, 07:32:12 PM
Eschewed beef entirely beginning in 2007 when Karen had two (mild) heart attacks.  Last July, a nurse co-worker convinced us to go vegan with no animal products but wild-caught fish.  We have adhered to this diet since and our weight is down a little (both have BMI of 20 or slightly less) and our cholesterol numbers have improved, especially LDLs, which have dropped noticeably.  No problem with persistent hunger.  Beans, legumes, and wild-caught fish provide plenty of protein.  Biggest problem is finding restaurant meals we can eat in a world of rapacious carnivores (our fellow diners--not the menu items). 

Certain meat products may not be inherently bad for us, but the growth hormones, etc are not good for us and chicken in NorCal is cheaper than apples, pound for pound.  There IS a reason for that and farm-raised fish are fed grow-fast stuff city rats would pass by. 

Your body; your choice. 

Ralph 
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on May 20, 2015, 08:46:35 PM
  I think most dietary problems are from people being fed a lot of bullshit.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Nic in Western NYS on May 20, 2015, 08:52:08 PM
  I think most dietary problems are from people being fed a lot of bullshit.
Yup.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: the Bailey on May 20, 2015, 08:58:46 PM
take your pick.  aspartame or diabetes.  they will both kill you.  or eat clean.  or pretend that its like evolution and global warming and its justs a bunch of elitists telling you what to do.   :BEER:
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: the Bailey on May 20, 2015, 09:07:16 PM
http://tech.mit.edu/V118/N8/doprah.8w.html
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Penderic on May 20, 2015, 09:39:22 PM
You cannibals! Vegetables have feelings too!  :'(

I prefer "cruelty-free" food sources!

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/tinkies%20and%20beer_zpsssuotzba.jpg)
 ;D
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Yukonica on May 20, 2015, 09:41:39 PM
cant wait for the comments on this one.
I kinda think I'm not doing much for tourism Yukon.
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Well??.... duh.
They all gonna think uv us ahz north o 60 and south uv couth.

Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: rodekyll on May 20, 2015, 09:55:49 PM
I have two words for you:

Pou  tine   :food
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Yukonica on May 20, 2015, 10:07:18 PM
I have two words for you:

Pou  tine   :food

wicked accent you have there.
puh't(z)in

Oddly, there is a great spot here in Whitehorse for over the top poutine.
... no moose parts.
 
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Guido Valvole on May 20, 2015, 10:16:30 PM
Moose chitlins? Really?
Otoh, maybe that ends up with this old KFAT classic  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zb1qsVqjwg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zb1qsVqjwg)

cr
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Penderic on May 20, 2015, 11:18:45 PM
Moose pies? ugh! but Funny!  ;-T

But really. Nutting like a big flaming groat cluster! Yum Yum Hot Ouch!
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(Gotta put it out first!)
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Nic in Western NYS on May 21, 2015, 05:49:50 AM
cant wait for the comments on this one.
I kinda think I'm not doing much for tourism Yukon.
Well??.... duh.
They all gonna think uv us ahz north o 60 and south uv couth.
  YUKON - Back on bucket list (but bring food)
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: krglorioso on May 21, 2015, 11:40:07 PM
Tofu:  It's what's for dinner. 

Ralph
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: JoeB on May 22, 2015, 04:25:30 AM
As the man said, "if a rabbit don't eat it you don't need it."
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: davedel44 on May 22, 2015, 04:44:42 AM
Good idea , I find myself eating beans and rice with lots of salsa as a fall back meal a couple of times a week .

  Dusty

That explains it! ::) ~; ~;
Dave
Galvston
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Lannis on May 22, 2015, 08:40:14 AM
I hope no one follows ALL the advice in this thread.   You'd be dead in a month.

Lannis
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Dogwalker on May 22, 2015, 08:49:51 AM
As the man said, "if a rabbit don't eat it you don't need it."

Save time, eat rabbits.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Orange Guzzi on May 22, 2015, 09:18:07 AM
I do not eat red meat due to allergies.  Tick bites cause an allergic reaction to Alph-Gal sugar in red meat. The sugar cause stomach cramping and several trips to the toilet the next day.  I have craving for meat, but get over it.  Chicken, turkey and sea food are my choices.  Lots of carbs in my diet.  If you go meatless, you have to watch the ingredients in foods.  There is medicines that use beef and pork by products, lard in many food and dairy in just about everything.  You need to take zinc picolinate to get zinc in your diet.  I have low cholesterol and good body mass at 56 y.o.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Penderic on May 22, 2015, 11:41:07 AM
Part of long motorcycle rides is stopping for a good hot meal.

Wouldnt it be nice to have a nice hot snack made available by the built in cooker in your vehicles exhaust system?

Yay. Lets stop and eat! I want some smoked turkey! cough cough.
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Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Penderic on May 22, 2015, 12:07:32 PM
Oh Dusty! You are probably just driving too fast!  :D
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: rodekyll on May 22, 2015, 02:51:24 PM
Pennie , every time I try to smoke a turkey , the smell of burning feathers is overwhelming . What is wrong with my method ?

  Dusty

Pluck, you!
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on May 22, 2015, 03:41:34 PM
  I never could keep one lit long enough to smoke it.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on May 22, 2015, 06:46:51 PM
 Small diameter rope, lots of it.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Archangel on May 24, 2015, 08:39:46 AM
Lots of idiocy on what to eat to live a healthier life. Here is a website that is the holy grail of diet and nutrition.  There is a searchable database and many great videos.  Watch the one called " Rooting out the leading causes of Death" Extremely funny and informative.

Nutritionfacts.org
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Matteo on May 25, 2015, 01:47:07 PM
My eyes are in front of my head, I have canines and one stomach. I am a carnivore. The rest is garnish.
Title: Re: Pescetarianism
Post by: Penderic on May 25, 2015, 02:19:28 PM
Food is polictical .... ~; and has started lotsa wars in the past.

Now this month, Europe announce limits on their own silly and expensive "food into gas programs! (thats biofuels including ethanols.)

However, the UN has officially recommended, to compensate, and save the world in the process, to change our eating habits and all start eating these .......
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/strange-foods-652_zpsesiwxiii.jpg)

Ugh!


Leading to the next stage.....


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 :BEER: