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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: MotoGoosy on May 29, 2015, 11:58:09 PM
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Seem to be getting about 26 mpg with an '02 EV11. Kinda poor, huh?
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I don't know anything about your bike, but around town my Norge drops into the 20s.
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Yup, it's the bike's fault.
::) ???
It's either incredibly badly set up or broken.
Tune it, fix it or, if you are amoral? Sell it!
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Both of them have something seriously wrong with them..
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Both of them have something seriously wrong with them..
The bikes too eh? :BEER:
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Both of them have something seriously wrong with them..
The massive vibration is shaking all of the gas out of the tank.
The breathing in of all those gas fumes would also explain a few things.
Lannis
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Oh it's *That* trolling idiot.
Sorry, carry on.
Pete
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:+1 Enjoyed all this with my morning coffee.
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I can achieve that on my 1100 sport, although it doesn't take very long to cover the 26 miles.
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Connect the other spark plug.
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I can achieve that on my 1100 sport, although it doesn't take very long to cover the 26 miles.
I was going to say the same about my Centys. I have gotton less than a 100 miles on a tank before needing fuel. And I know for a fact that the bike was in fine fiddle, except for that loose nut that holds on the handle bars. ~; ::)
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Can's say anything if the bike has carb, but if it is fuel injected, sharp decline in MPG (given no fuel leak, no misfiring cylinder, normal tire pressure) is almost always caused by defective oxygen lambda sensor. Stuck open O2 sensor "tells" CPU that the mixture is too lean and CPU makes injectors to deliver longer squirts of fuel. Hence the poor MPG.
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Can's say anything if the bike has carb, but if it is fuel injected, sharp decline in MPG (given no fuel leak, no misfiring cylinder, normal tire pressure) is almost always caused by defective oxygen lambda sensor. Stuck open O2 sensor "tells" CPU that the mixture is too lean and CPU makes injectors to deliver longer squirts of fuel. Hence the poor MPG.
There is no such thing on a 2002 EV in the US.
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There is nothing wrong with my bike. My MPG may dip into the mid-20s around town, but it reaches the mid-40s out on the highway. It really depends upon how it is ridden. I imagine the OP's mileage varies, too. He did not give us enough information...
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Well, thanks for the few intelligent answers. Didn't expect 40mpg putzing around town. Just wondered if other 1100's get about the same.
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My Griso 1100 averages in the 40's, in-town on the freeway -- no real change but it may be because of my Rule #1: Never be the first through an intersection.
You wouldn't have some Swabbie borrowing a little gas would you?
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The lowest injected Guzzi mileage I ever got was in the Winter on the Centauro before I put a brass temp sensor on it. 33 mpg. After that, normally it got around 42. Got over 50 on a trip one time putzing along with Harley Bob on his softtail at about 60-65.
20s?? I still say there's something wrong.
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My average MPG is 44 in town/county roads on my 2007 Breva.
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I usually get 160 miles until I'm walking with the Centy. That works out to about 35 MPG. I would imagine I could get 40+ mpg if I was a little more mature in my riding style. :bike ;) :D It also has a bit more of a load to haul with me on it rather than you Chuck. :D I run nothing but alcohol free premium gas in them.
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I had my Centauro under 30 MPG. I've had it over 50 MPG.
I used nothing but the cheapest swill gas I could find.
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I have no idea what mileage my Norge gets. I purposefully ignore that. Gasoline is the cheapest part of owning a bike.
I typically spend more on tires in a year than I spend on gas. Perhaps if I lost 100 pounds and rode more maturely that would change.
Range on the other hand is more important. I tend to get a tad over 250 miles between fills. I guess that puts mpg about 40ish . StarTron helps that quite a bit.
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That's the bike that vibrates worse than a hard mount sportster?
Something seriously wrong here. jus sayin'. <hint hint>
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I get anywhere from 40 to 50 on my '03 EV. It depends on my right wrist ;)
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I have no idea what mileage my Norge gets. I purposefully ignore that.
Fuel mileage is a pretty good indicator of state of tune...
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ive owned a lot of bikes but my 04 v11 lemans is the most variable in gas mileage depending how I ride it. From 30 to 45 mpg. Syching the throttle bodies helped a little.
My 75 850T get great mileage no matter how I ride but then again it doesn't produce much power either.
I would just give it a tune up, fresh plugs and see what you get
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Oh, it's all tuned up, but I ride around town mostly and those stoplights eat most of the gas.
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Oh, it's all tuned up, but I ride around town mostly and those stoplights eat most of the gas.
How do you check your mpg? No reason to think the stock speedo/odo is accurate.
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Loosely. This week was the first time and I just took the mileage off the odo before and after fillups and divided it by 19 liters.
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If I understand you, you are doing it wrong.
Tell me, what is 19 liters?
Never mind. I knew another person who did the same thing when calculating fuel mileage. They should have known better, too.
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My reply was only partially tongue in cheek.
My 00 Jackal was tuned somewhat rich, but despite entire tankfulls of spirited riding only rarely dipped into the HIGH 30's in the dead of winter. Generally turned in low 40's on our cheap E10 and occasionally kissed 50.
My 06 Breva 1100 was about the same, rarely dropping anywhere in the upper 30's, and, especially after a Guzzitech reflash, regularly got in the mid to high 40's.
If either ever dropped into the 20's I'd have immediately looked for fuel leaks.
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26 sounds poor to me. I get. About 38-48 depending on how much wrist I give the 01 Jackal.
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Folks, he calculated MPG by dividing his odo reading by TOTAL TANK CAPACITY.
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Where's that roll eye emoticon?
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Where's that roll eye emoticon?
Yes, 26 is a conservative estimate, but when that light comes on, I get gas and it is empty when I open the cap and look inside.
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You'll be a lot closer to the real number if you use the miles traveled and the actual gallons on the pump display.
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Yes, 26 is a conservative estimate, but when that light comes on, I get gas and it is empty when I open the cap and look inside.
No it is not, not even remotely empty. And mathematically that was a horrible method of trying to guestimate mileage.
I can't think of a motorcycle I've owned in the past decade where I could actually see the fuel level past a certain point.
The California was definitely included. It could easily have more than a GALLON left and you couldn't see it.
I forget exactly when my low fuel light used to come on for the Jackal, maybe 3.4 or 3.6 gallons used OUT OF FIVE... now assuming there's MAYBE an unusable amount of 0.25-0.5 gallons, that still leaves ABOUT A GALLON LEFT (maybe more).
The only way to somewhat accurately calculate how much fuel you used (like on all vehicles) is to fill it up again and note how much it takes to get back to the same level, then use THAT number to divide into the miles traveled since the last fill up.
For example, let's say you went 140 miles before the light came on (that was pretty common for me IIRC) and you pulled over and put in 3.4 gallons, that would mean 140 miles/3.4 g = 41.2 mpg.
But if you did the same thing and divided by FIVE because you ASSumed (drink) the tank was empty then you would get 140 / 5 = 28 MPG, which couldn't be further from the truth. It's not a conservative estimate, it's a ridiculous guess.
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Loosely. This week was the first time and I just took the mileage off the odo before and after fillups and divided it by 19 liters.
You have got to be kidding.
How many miles on the ODO? How many gallons on the fuel pump?
You're not putting 19L/5-gal into that tank. more likely, you're putting in about 3.6 gallons at 120 miles, or so.
Which means your around town mileage is in the low 30s...
SMH...
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You have got to be kidding.
How many miles on the ODO? How many gallons on the fuel pump?
You're not putting 19L/5-gal into that tank. more likely, you're putting in about 3.6 gallons at 120 miles, or so.
Which means your around town mileage is in the low 30s...
SMH...
That is spot on for both my 02 and 03. Commuting/around town riding the light comes on at 120 miles and it takes around 3.5 gallons to fill the tank, typically putting my mileage in the mid 30's. On the highway I usually get low to mid 40's, and up to 50 mpg whenever I can get corn-free gas. I've had one trip where I dipped into the 20's, it was a ride along the coast fighting strong head and cross winds while trying to maintain 70+ mph.
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Loosely. This week was the first time and I just took the mileage off the odo before and after fillups and divided it by 19 liters.
If you're measuring MPG, where do the liters come in?
As far as the mileage goes, I'd measure at least 3 tanks worth and see what the average is. If its still in the 20's, I'd get it checked. The worst mileage I ever got was 28 on my 01 Cal Special and that was riding about 100 miles into a hellacious headwind. Otherwise it got high 30's to low 40's.
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:thumb:
My Cal.EV 1999 are between 0.55L to 0.65L pr.MIL.(high 30. miles)
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For some reason I suspect Mr. Moto Goosey is laughing. Every single post is like this.
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No it is not, not even remotely empty. And mathematically that was a horrible method of trying to guestimate mileage.
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But if you did the same thing and divided by FIVE because you ASSumed (drink) the tank was empty then you would get 140 / 5 = 28 MPG, which couldn't be further from the truth. It's not a conservative estimate, it's a ridiculous guess.
well, it could be further from the truth. He could have estimated his mileage to be "potato"
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For some reason I suspect Mr. Moto Goosey is laughing. Every single post is like this.
I really hope he's laughing; otherwise we're talking the proverbial "box of rocks" or "bag of hammers".
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well, it could be further from the truth. He could have estimated his mileage to be "potato"
That reminds me -- my potatoes sprouted. Well, some of them. I'm 4/5 for seed potatoes and 0/5 for produce counter spuds of the same type.
This might be the most productive post in the topic. :smiley:
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Already did it. I call it a frankintater. You core out a russet (I use a fid) and insert your choice of brat. Wrap in foil and bake on the back of the grill.
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That reminds me -- my potatoes sprouted. Well, some of them. I'm 4/5 for seed potatoes and 0/5 for produce counter spuds of the same type.
This might be the most productive post in the topic. :smiley:
I was wondering how that experiment would turn out..
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well, it could be further from the truth. He could have estimated his mileage to be "potato"
ROTFLMAO!
:bow: :bow: :bow: :laugh: :boozing:
Touche and good point.
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I was wondering how that experiment would turn out..
I've had some luck with produce potatoes, but many are treated to keep them from sprouting so as not to frighten the city folk. We had decent luck with a bag of Andean varieties.
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For some reason I suspect Mr. Moto Goosey is laughing. Every single post is like this.
You'd think that people would remember from month to month. But people get hooked in every single time. The newbies are probably wondering "Why are some of the guys not taking this nice man seriously?"
BWAAAHHHahahahaha. Oh, wait, that's already been used ....
Lannis
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I don't know if this applies to Guzzis or not but I experienced a drop in mileage from 44mpg to 30mpg on my Triumph Tiger. The mechanic at my local dealer suggested a lot of possibilities. I didn't buy into any of them. Finally I replaced the O rings on the end of the injectors and it cured the problem. Back up to 40mpg. Cost me about $2.50. The Tiger has 106,000 miles and runs like new. But my Guzzi only has 97,000 miles. Never had to pull the injectors yet. Don't even know if they have O rings or not.
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Yes, they have what can only be described as the balloon tire of O-rings. Way fat for the size, and capable of getting brittle over time and the bad effects of built-up crud/heat/cooling. I just reviewed mine with about 30k on the clock -- getting a little stiff, but still look like they seal. You can check with a squirt of your favorite check fluid (wd40 or whatever) at the injector root. A 'noticeable' change in rpm strongly suggests a leaky o-ring.