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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dean Rose on June 13, 2015, 12:25:59 PM
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/12/dreamliner-vertical-takeoff_n_7566828.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592&ref=yfp
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Oh, thanks, Dean.
As I knew would be the case -- and went on anyway :rolleyes: -- that led to about 10 other y/t vids about a/c testing. :wink:
Bill
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How would Orville and Wilbur react to seeing that?! What a beautiful bird.
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How would Orville and Wilbur react to seeing that?! What a beautiful bird.
I was amazed at the wing design.
Dean
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A beauty. One reason I am a stockholder. Done pretty well past couple years.
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Cool, but in the long run that type of flying will get you killed. Much safer to do a slow roll like the 707 test pilot did years ago, in my opinion.
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Just to take a little sheen off your fantasy, the pilot does say that a good portion of how cool it looks is due to a trick of the camera angle.
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Fantasy or not. If a plane can do anything remotely close to that with passengers/cargo then I'd imagine it be full of tossed lunch & dirty drawz when it leveled out.
that's amazing technology & power.
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It8 cool and all but it really ought to be pretty snappy with no payload and little fuel. Just like a bobtail road tractor.
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that's amazing technology & power.
German ME163 from 1944 was more amazing considering it was built 70 years ago! Rate of climb 31,500 fpm speed of 572 knots, Dreamliner 4500 fpm speed 510 knots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnwQcr8tnAw
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A few points.
The camera angle exaggerates the view.
The jet was gutted to a fraction of the weight of a passenger plane.
The fuel load was light too.
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I was amazed at the wing design.
Dean
As was I. I was reminded of the saying that "In the case of airplanes and yachts, if it looks right, it probably is."
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"The Paris Air Show starts on Monday. Let's make this look good."
I don't know if it's gutted or not. It belongs to Vietnam Air. Which brings up a pet peeve. Why do countries that can't even get fresh water to their people subsidize that kind of a purchase?
Or ones with poverty all around like the supposed best country in the world USA
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Back in the early 80s during the Lebanon crisis the news was showing a Boeing 757 taking off there at max climb to get out of shoulder fired missile range as quickly as possible. Now it had passengers and a useful fuel load. I would guess it was climbing out at around a 50 degree angle. Hope the captain let the passengers know first it was going to happen or there were probably some dirty underwear. 50 degrees may not sound like all that much, but if you have never experienced it from inside a plane it will get your attention the first time you do.
GliderJohn
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Hope the captain let the passengers know
John, Orange County airport (John Wayne) used to have severe noise restrictions (that I think were worse in the evenings) that required a crazy takeoff angle. The captain would give a good lecture before starting his roll to let the passengers know that things were going to be a bit sharp at takeoff. I don't believe that's still going on, but I'm not sure. Anyway, pulling g's and pointing up isn't what you'd expect on a transport jet.
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I've flown out of LAX several times and there is always a part of the take off where it seems like the plane is standing on one wing. However, it sure beats flying into Hartsfield in Atlanta.
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National Airport (DCA) has noise restrictions like that too, and planes tend to climb fast while following the Potomac river for a while after takeoff. That can be less boring than most takeoffs.
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Leaving the Juneau airport you point straight at the waist of the mountains and then rise and bank sharply to miss them. The Sitka airport begins and ends in the ocean. All the Alaska airline pilots that fly this route are x-carrier pilots. They treat a 737 like a Cessna STOL. We count the number of bounces to rate the landings.
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All the Alaska airline pilots that fly this route are x-carrier pilots.
NO they are not! I know many of them by first name! :violent1:
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Then it will be easier to get all :violent1: :violent1: with them than me.
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Back in the early 80s during the Lebanon crisis the news was showing a Boeing 757 taking off there at max climb to get out of shoulder fired missile range as quickly as possible. Now it had passengers and a useful fuel load. I would guess it was climbing out at around a 50 degree angle. Hope the captain let the passengers know first it was going to happen or there were probably some dirty underwear. 50 degrees may not sound like all that much, but if you have never experienced it from inside a plane it will get your attention the first time you do.
GliderJohn
Bad guess, commercial airliners would never exceed 40 degrees and that`s pushing it!
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Hell , I know a bunch of folks by there first names . There's Bob , Frank , David , Chad , John , even a twofer , both named Loretta :grin:
Dusty
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If you want wing design look at this A380 from behind. Even weirder in real life.
http://m4.i.pbase.com/o6/97/738697/1/93449164.WJbl5cWd.IMG_0259b.jpg
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German ME163 from 1944 was more amazing considering it was built 70 years ago! Rate of climb 31,500 fpm speed of 572 knots, Dreamliner 4500 fpm speed 510 knots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnwQcr8tnAw
The allies were lucky they had air superiority at the time & could pick these off on takeoff & landing...
Outstanding for its era.
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If you want wing design look at this A380 from behind. Even weirder in real life.
http://m4.i.pbase.com/o6/97/738697/1/93449164.WJbl5cWd.IMG_0259b.jpg
The 340 has the same look. It`s an Airbus thing.
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I saw an A380 do this a couple of years back at the Farnborough Air show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jiMPvCZV9I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jiMPvCZV9I)
If you want to try a steep fast climb out on a commercial flight try El Al out of Ben Gurion International Tel Aviv israel
They firewall the throttles and don't back off until the aircraft is a cruising altitude - gets the away from any potential SAMs as quickly as possible :thumb: