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Title: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: JJ on June 19, 2015, 11:46:14 AM
 I don't care what anyone says, when the outside ambient temperature is 110-115 degrees, it's frick'n HOT!!  :lipsrsealed: :tongue: :rolleyes: :shocked:

That is what the temperatures have been in "The Valley of the Sun" ALL WEEK!! ("WHEW!!)  :cool:  Even with humidity levels at 7-9%, it's still brutal! :evil:

Any riding in the Valley needs to be completed BEFORE 9 AM!  No cool nights again until October.... :undecided: :huh: :sad: 

The only relief is to Flagstaff and points north, 3+ hours, or San Diego, 6 hours to the West, and to the cool Pacific ocean!! :thumb:

Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: HardAspie on June 19, 2015, 11:51:42 AM
Oh yeah!

I am in Cornville - start in Phoenix, ride about one and a half hours north while looking for BFE, but make  a wrong turn and ride another fifteen mins - Cornville. We expect a nice 108 today. Satan called me this morning about the weather, I told him to stay in hell; it's cooler there.

I rode bicycle for a short shopping trip today, as early as I could.
Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: oldbike54 on June 19, 2015, 11:58:57 AM
 Just as a point of reference July 2012 in Oklahoma was the hottest month on record ... EVER! Add in a bit of humidity here in Eastern OK , HIFs in the 125 range .

  Dusty
Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: HardAspie on June 19, 2015, 12:04:17 PM
Fire up that Guzzi and let it cool the air.
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Post by: rodekyll on June 19, 2015, 12:05:17 PM
It makes the record 77 we had here over the weekend seem less severe.   :laugh:
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Post by: oldbike54 on June 19, 2015, 12:08:26 PM
It makes the record 77 we had here over the weekend seem less severe.   :laugh:


 Yeah , but it's a wet heat . Damn , several days in succession in 2012 we had lows of 90 .

  Dusty
Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: HardAspie on June 19, 2015, 12:12:15 PM
And, to make it more fun; in a few weeks we will get humidity too as the monsoon begins.
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Post by: rodekyll on June 19, 2015, 12:23:36 PM
Those numbers aren't even in our alphabet.   :shocked:
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Post by: HardAspie on June 19, 2015, 12:27:31 PM
Airrrrrr - izona! Where the sun hangs hotly in the sky!
Where the pavement melts
And the hot heat felts
Like a person surely will die!
Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: rodekyll on June 19, 2015, 12:47:02 PM
I've decided that when the smiley doesn't work the computer decided it wasn't funny.
Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: Vince in Milwaukee on June 19, 2015, 12:53:05 PM
Call me wacked, but after my schooling was up in Phoenix back in 2005 (MMI), I couldn't wait to get back home to the Mid West.  Given that sentiment, I feel the Phoenix area has some of the best weather in the nation 8-9 months out of the year.  Oddly enough, Barb and I were just talking about taking a vacation out there this coming winter. 
Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: JJ on June 19, 2015, 01:05:49 PM
A few fun facts for those of you who DON'T live on "The Forbidden Planet" (aka Summer time in the Valley of the Sun)  :cool:

* We get 8 months of paradise, and 4 months of Hell...and this time of year, it is spelled HELL!!
* We usually get about 2-3 months of passive weather (no AC or heat required)
* During the summer, we keep the AC in the house at 78-80 degrees - and that is COOL!  :laugh:
* When it is over 110+ degrees for a few days, the pool water is a refreshing 90+ degrees
* I have seen and experienced 100 degrees at midnight
* The heat goes up like a staircase until dark.  2 PM is hot, 4 PM is hotter, 6 pm is the peak, etc. :shocked:
* I left La Jolla, CA last Monday @ 7:15 AM, and it was a cool 63 degrees, when I arrived back in Phoenix @ 1:15 PM, it was 112+ degrees.
* When you go out and it is 115 degrees - - you almost cannot believe it is that hot!! :shocked: :rolleyes:  I call it..."silly heat!" :grin: :cool:
Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: HardAspie on June 19, 2015, 01:11:37 PM
I like that "silly heat"!

Once, when I  still lived in Califormica I flew into PHX. The pilot announced, "a balmy 122." I thought that I dislike the high 80s enough that I would not notice. Wrong! Even in the jetway the heat hit me like a cast iron skillet.

When in was there last Monday my friend's Prius was sjowint OAT of 118. I even walked in it.
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Post by: Penderic on June 19, 2015, 01:16:13 PM
Good reason to stay Hydrated!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/beerss_zpseosl6gwn.jpg)
Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: JJ on June 19, 2015, 01:16:43 PM
I like that "silly heat"!

Once, when I  still lived in Califormica I flew into PHX. The pilot announced, "a balmy 122." I thought that I dislike the high 80s enough that I would not notice. Wrong! Even in the jetway the heat hit me like a cast iron skillet.

When in was there last Monday my friend's Prius was sjowint OAT of 118. I even walked in it.

I was going to a job interview in a full suit and tie the day it was 122.  It was so "SILLY HOT" that they closed Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport for a while, because the planes could not get any lift and the numbers for this were off the chart!!!! :shocked: :rolleyes:
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Post by: Sasquatch Jim on June 19, 2015, 01:20:52 PM
  Makes me admire the 82 degree weather we have been averaging her in the cold frozen north of the big island.
Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: HardAspie on June 19, 2015, 01:26:51 PM
Airrrrrrr  izona!
Where the heat melts shoe soles to the earth
Where the birds can't fly
In denalt so high
And and it makes you much regret your birth!
Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: rodekyll on June 19, 2015, 01:30:04 PM
I drove from Phoenix to the air base/museum once when it was so hot the air force was grounded and the film in my camera got sticky.  I had some good clam chowder at the truck stop.
Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: opc on June 19, 2015, 02:09:08 PM
I also like to remind out-of-town'ers that the official temperature only tells you part of the story since official temps are at 5feet off the ground, over grass, IN. THE. SHADE.  O.o  Walking across a parking lot to your bike/auto in direct sunlight, on melting asphalt is a completely different kind of hell.


Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: HardAspie on June 19, 2015, 02:16:53 PM
Walk across the parking lot. Get in the car. Grab the seat belt buckle. Burns! Touch the steering  wheel: ouch.
Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: lucydad on June 19, 2015, 03:00:56 PM
JJ,

Feel for you guys in AZ, I really do.  Back from a nice 3 hour ride on Little Goose.  Had lunch with buddy Ed at Fung's for fab chinese.

Overcast, about 92F and 90% humidity here.  Had to use the water on the gel seat trick after lunch to avoid roasting my butt.  Roast butt can get pretty chunky.  Dang we had a fun ride, got a bit uncomfortable stuck on side street on freeway, but otherwise moving most of the time.  Hit a light rain shower, no big ones this time. 

You want hot?  Try Libya in July, deep desert:  122F.  Ungodly with the sand dunes.  Evening it plummets fast though.  Dangerous heat.

Thinking of a bit more chocolate and water, then a nap. 

Stay frosty and remember whatever the question is, the answer is a cold beer.  Make it a good one.
Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: charlie b on June 19, 2015, 04:50:57 PM
Grew up there.

A funny one was when my wife and I were dating.  She had lived in Albuquerque, Guam and San Diego.  She went barefoot everywhere.

Visiting Phx.  Needed to go to a friend's house two blocks away.  She decided to not wear shoes.  ROFLMAO.  She thought the sidewalk was hot.  I warned her about the pavement.  She took two steps and jumped on my back.  I was surprised there were no blisters (she still has tough feet).

One of the TV stations used to mark the first day each year when they could fry an egg on the sidewalk in front of their building.  It was usually in early June.  July, Aug and Sep are hotter.  And the sidewalk is 10's of deg cooler than the pavement.

We had times where the temp did not drop below 100F for several days.  That was not the high, it was the LOW.

As a kid it was less noticed.  We got to play golf for free during the summer when it was over 115F.  No one else was stupid enough to be on the course  :)  The golf pro knew us.  Made sure we had enough water and would keep an eye on us as we played.

We also frequently measured temp in the backyard at well over 120F.  Highest I saw was 126F.

Am glad I moved away.  :)
Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: JJ on June 19, 2015, 05:59:56 PM
As you read this, and at 3:56pm on a Friday afternoon, it is 113 and climbing!!  :cool: :rolleyes: Again, just totally,..."Silly Hot!"  Going for a quick swim in 90+ degree water soon.  So refreshing... :cool:

Riding a motorcycle now is like riding into a hot hair dryer....literally!  :shocked: :rolleyes: :undecided: :laugh:

Just talked to a buddy who lives north in Sedona and was complaining that it was 101 up there right now. :shocked: :rolleyes:  There is only one alternative to staying indoors:  NORTH to Flagstaff / Colorado or WEST to San Diego! :cool:

"Silly Hot!"  :lipsrsealed: :shocked: :rolleyes: :undecided: :evil:
Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: Turin on June 19, 2015, 06:19:25 PM
You get used to it after a while. To me anything under 105 is gravy, and you don't have to shovel heat! I was out PMing a paving crew, now that gets hot!
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Post by: SteveAZ on June 19, 2015, 06:50:34 PM
I spent the first 38 years of my life in Phoenix. It used to cool off at night before Phoenix got huge. Now the miles of concrete radiate heat all night and theres no breaks.

I'm happily exiled to California now. I go home to AZ  see relatives in the winter. For me, the eight months of OK weather aren't worth the 4 months of living in the air conditioning while its a furnace outside and the swimming pool is a refreshing 92 degrees.

I did my time. No more for me thank you.
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Post by: Arizona Wayne on June 19, 2015, 09:17:10 PM
I spent the first 38 years of my life in Phoenix. It used to cool off at night before Phoenix got huge. Now the miles of concrete radiate heat all night and theres no breaks.

I'm happily exiled to California now. I go home to AZ  see relatives in the winter. For me, the eight months of OK weather aren't worth the 4 months of living in the air conditioning while its a furnace outside and the swimming pool is a refreshing 92 degrees.

I did my time. No more for me thank you.



What part of Calif. do you live in?   That state has about any kind of weather you could want.  I live in Az. and my weather is nothing like Phoenix.   I know better than to live in Phoenix.  :grin:   But the same can be  said about parts of Calif., where I used to live, depending on your preferences..
Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: HardAspie on June 19, 2015, 09:20:21 PM
This reply:

You get used to it after a while. To me anything under 105 is gravy, and you don't have to shovel heat! I was out PMing a paving crew, now that gets hot!

Was too true. I lived in Williams, up on The Plateau and have seen nighttime temps  below -30...not comfort index, raw temps. Id rather the heat than the cold white dismal.
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Post by: cruzziguzzi on June 19, 2015, 09:40:44 PM
Me? I dig it.

Keeps the whiners at pikers at bay. I look forward each year to the flight of the snow-birds. Their shrieks of terror as the thermometers in their Buimobilecuries start to read three digits is a sweet sound to me. I wish they'd pay as much attention to their left turn signals which seem to be engaged when they get here about November and never rest unless the bulb burns out.

Add the dire warnings each year from the sqaulking-heads on TV... ".... temperatures... warning... WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW..."

Hell, I look forward to it.

Wanna feel alive? Live with the extremes of either cold or heat.

I just spent a miserable few days in San Diego county. Couldn't wait to get into my truck to hammer the A/C to pull some of the gravity defying water outa the air. I enjoyed doing the things and seeing old friends but can't imagine living there again over living here. My lungs'll set their own internal humidity thank you very much.

When folks go on about cold and say "I can always wear a sweater or heavier coat..." I take the tac that all I need is a bit of water, a place to step outa the sun and  1 1/2MPH or more of breeze to go with the 4-12% humidity.

As to the summers in general, this one is the second summer of a return to what it should be after 7 or so years of truly miserable and relentless heat with no air movement and lows over 90 the entire summer.

Breeze, reasonable lows, low humidity... only complaint I have is all the new-commers forcing these damnable rubberized roads on us. Transition from asphalt to one of those of a summer day and watch your throat convulsively close up in defense - not cool on a bike!

Yup, I dig it and revel in others revulsion of the same... skims the dross.

Todd.
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Post by: HardAspie on June 19, 2015, 09:44:09 PM
Cornville Aridzona is nice. Four seasons here. Ouch hot today, but we need this to drag up the monsoon. I can deal with it.
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Post by: Arizona Wayne on June 19, 2015, 10:38:24 PM
The hottest it get's here In Kingman area(3,500') is 105,7F with a constant breeze. I ride year round.  :cool:   If you want hotter it's just 35 miles away @ Bullhead City next to the Colorado river.

There are 2 kinds of people..........tho se that prefer cold and those that prefer heat.  I'll take the heat...to a point.  :grin: 
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Post by: HardAspie on June 19, 2015, 10:40:08 PM
I used to love the cold. I loved snowy Williams. Then I developed Reynaud's Disease and my internal thermostat reset and I far prefer heat. (to a point)
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Post by: rodekyll on June 19, 2015, 10:45:26 PM
Me? I dig it.

Keeps the whiners at pikers at bay. I look forward each year to the flight of the snow-birds. Their shrieks of terror as the thermometers in their Buimobilecuries start to read three digits is a sweet sound to me. I wish they'd pay as much attention to their left turn signals which seem to be engaged when they get here about November and never rest unless the bulb burns out.

{snip}

They come from here.  The problem for a wingshooter is is that they return.
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Post by: Yukonica on June 19, 2015, 10:55:32 PM
Those numbers aren't even in our alphabet.   :shocked:

Thankfully.
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Post by: Sasquatch Jim on June 20, 2015, 12:09:28 AM
  At least you don't waste money cooking eggs.  They probably come out of the chicken boiled.
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Post by: HardAspie on June 20, 2015, 12:13:21 AM
Hard boiled!
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Post by: SteveAZ on June 20, 2015, 03:02:35 AM


What part of Calif. do you live in?   That state has about any kind of weather you could want.  I live in Az. and my weather is nothing like Phoenix.   I know better than to live in Phoenix.  :grin:   But the same can be  said about parts of Calif., where I used to live, depending on your preferences..

I'm in Laguna Beach these days. I love the climate here. I ride out to the Borrego desert occasionally and get a taste of the old summer/desert climate.

Funny thing is I find the Sonoran desert in AZ to be one of the most beautiful ecosystems around and I do love AZ. Far prettier than the Cali scrub in coastal socal (minus the ocean part). I'm a native AZ desert rat and it will always be in my blood but after a few decades...the summers can get tedious.

It was always fun watching the snowbird migration out of AZ that Cruzzi is talking about. Some areas seem to lose half their population around May every year.

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Post by: JJ on June 20, 2015, 10:39:09 AM
IMHO, the best weather on the planet, outside of the Mediterranean, is NORCAL and SOCAL.   :cool:

I lived in NORCAL twice and warm days and cool nights are the best and I miss riding with a leather jacket on!  That being said, housing is unaffordable, taxes are high, and there are just too many people / cars - 6X more than Arizona in fact.  :rolleyes:

The second best place I have even lived was Aachen, Germany.  :boozing: It has 4 seasons, and the monthly rain cleaned out the air, and the winters were mild, in general.  Beautiful riding through the Eiffel forest as well.  But again, you need a reasonable amount of money to live there comfortably.

No place is utopia, and every state has its pros and cons.  Like one poster said, "it's what you get used to..." 

My wife wants to retire in or near Asheville, NC, and we have been there a few times and it looks nice.

We'll see, but for now, I have to endure the Valley heat yet again for another long summer.  Time to plan another trip north to Flagstaff and/or San Diego! :cool:


Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: SteveAZ on June 20, 2015, 11:17:55 AM


I lived in NORCAL twice and warm days and cool nights are the best and I miss riding with a leather jacket on!  That being said, housing is unaffordable, taxes are high, and there are just too many people / cars - 6X more than Arizona in fact.  :rolleyes:

snip

Socal is the same. People everywhere and the rent on my apartment is more that the home I used to "own" (pay the bank montly) in AZ.  :violent1: .....pays yer money and takes yer choice.

For me these days it's being near the ocean and the things that offers...surfing, fishing and the same "you can stare it it for hours" deal as a good campfire.

Who knows where I'll end up once the kids are grown. The GF and I go to Louisiana  every year and I love it there. Talk about some summer weather though  :evil:

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Post by: JJ on June 20, 2015, 11:20:52 AM
JJ , Ashville NC is a great town , good riding in the area , but I might visit in the Summertime . The humidity might be tough for a desert
rat .

  Dusty

Hi Dusty - I grew up in northern Dutchess county, New York, near the Catskills,, so I am very familiar with summer humidity and long, cold, wet winters.  "Temperate" overall climate is OK for me in my old age.    :cool:
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Post by: charlie b on June 20, 2015, 01:38:56 PM
I never cared for Flagstaff.  Parents had a place in Munds Park, just south of there.  It was ok, but, even it has become crowded.  Show Low/Pinetop used to be nice too, until more people moved in.  Same with Prescott.

Now days we are satisfied just to go camping in the White Mountains (in the RV).

Right now, in the mountains just east of Albuquerque it is supposed to get to 90 today.  We rarely get over 100F up here (7000ft).  But, it does get cold during the winter.
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Post by: Penderic on June 20, 2015, 04:05:38 PM
I am very happy with the mild summers on my little Island ....  :cool:
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Pender%20Weather_zps8rlacgoi.jpg)
 :azn:
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Post by: Arizona Wayne on June 20, 2015, 11:02:13 PM
Obviously you prefer the cold, Penderic, and all that comes with it.  :wink:
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Post by: Penderic on June 20, 2015, 11:21:15 PM
Cold? Love it as long as it stays above freezing and is less than 72 hours duration!  :grin:

Usually the winters here are very, very mild (but wet) for Canada. We have a few palm trees to prove it!
Cold limits shown in the graphic below show the extremes for our country .... too damn cold!  :wink: Cept here!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/cold%20canada_zps9ye3eubj.jpg)
I'm just east of Victoria on the above map.



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Post by: HardAspie on June 21, 2015, 12:00:26 AM
About 2200 now, and still quite warm. Cloudless though and seeing is okay. Therefore I am outside more than on the laptop. NextStar 4 is set up and I saw Jupiter down in the mud before it fell below the horizon...looked to be showing 4 moons too. I could sometimes make out lines on the big J. Saturn was nice, saw rings boot could not make out moons: I think it is not only the muddy atmosphere from the day's heat but also the moon's presence. Been a weak night for Messiers.
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Post by: Muzz on June 21, 2015, 12:36:18 AM
We have a 6deg C high predicted for tomorrow with -5deg C overnight. :sad:  With rain and sleet down to sea level.  I just LUUURVE working on the outdoor heatpump units in conditions like that! :sad: :sad: :sad:
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Post by: HardAspie on June 21, 2015, 12:39:02 AM
Whoa! Our night is predicted to fall to about 63F and I am looking at roughly 105F tomorrow.

I finally managed to reel in a few Messiers. And I love the Lagoon. Balmy night for glass and stars.
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Post by: Arizona Wayne on June 21, 2015, 12:49:58 AM
Penderic, any where in Canada is not acceptable to me.  I spent 11 years in Portland, Oregon area and cold rain 9 months a year I don't consider convenient for a MC rider.  Had to move south to keep my sanity.   Sold my LM IV to a Guzzisti who belongs to the 'wet leathers club' in Portland.  :sad:  Your definition of acceptable MC riding weather and mine are not comparable.  :tongue:
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Post by: rodekyll on June 21, 2015, 03:53:19 AM
ATGATT is more comfortable in cooler weather.  I get nervous as the temp approaches freezing, but if I waited for 60s I'd never get any riding done.
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Post by: JJ on June 22, 2015, 09:28:42 PM
Just for perspective...and not to beat a dead horse...it was 105 degrees IN THE SHADE on our outdoor patio this afternoon!!! :rolleyes: :shocked:

The forecast for the week?!?  110-111 for the next 7 days!!!  (That's nice...) :shocked: :rolleyes: :undecided: :grin:

Welcome to..."The Forbidden Planet" - aka, "The Valley of the Sun" in the summer time! :cool: :boozing:

Only one word sums it all up (IMHO) - - "Dreadful!" :cool:
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Post by: Arizona Wayne on June 22, 2015, 10:30:31 PM
Had a Dr.s appointment in Bullhead City today.  Left N.  of Kingman @ 11:30 am.  By the time I got to Kingman it was 104F on my scooter gauge.  When I left BC it read 117F, but those readings are road temps.  The temps. the weather people use are in shade.  By the time I got home @ 4pm my scooter gauge was reading 114F, but in the shade it was 105F.   Yeah, it was warm but the whole way there was a breeze and I didn't have to pee 'cause all the liquid intake I consumed evaporated on the way.  But I was tired by the time I got home after 120 miles of that with 1 break.  Would I do it again?  Sure.   In fact it was a short test to see if I'm still up to riding up to Wash. State for the deep forrest Guzzi campout next month.   Leaving from Kingman to there is brutal(and back) the 1st couple of days.   But I like a challenge.   :thumb:

Beats freezing my ass off and/or getting soaking wet too.   :evil:
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Post by: rodekyll on June 23, 2015, 12:34:52 AM
It got to 64 here today.  I took a long ride.  T-shirt riding weather.  Sandy beach (not to mistaken for an actual beach composed of sand) was teeming with kids and dogs.  More than the usual flashes of pasty white legs along the sidewalk, and the weeds are growing like kelp.

Good start to the summer!
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Post by: davedude on June 23, 2015, 12:13:27 PM
I worked outside in the valley of the sun every day for 5 years back when I had hair, and it stayed blond (it used to be brown). the highest recorded temp that I remember was 117 at Sky Harbor. There were tons of 115-116 days. I don't know how I lived through it! I still miss it though.
DB
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Post by: JJ on June 23, 2015, 01:14:45 PM
The mornings, (starting at sunrise...), are fine, up to about 9AM :cool: 

It's just when it get over 110+ that I start to call it:

"SILLY HEAT!!" :rolleyes: :undecided: :shocked: :tongue:
Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: SteveAZ on June 23, 2015, 02:42:29 PM
JJ your posts on this are bringing up all sorts of memories of AZ desert rat life....good ones actually in spite of me talking earlier about being tired of it and exiled.

Midnight mountain bike rides on the trail under a full moon,  late night swims,  getting up at 4AM to start a ride and seeing all the Coyotes, Bobcats and Javelina out on the streets (mind you this was central Phoenix near Paradise Valley so it's wild to see those critters around...not to be confused with the Scottsdale Cougar, whole different and far more dangerous species).

Good times and AZ was a fun place to grow up with more outdoors space than I could fathom as a kid, hunting and fishing etc.

Pop a cool one and pray for October my friend. :laugh:

Title: Re: "...but it's a DRY heat!" (LOL)
Post by: SteveAZ on June 23, 2015, 02:59:26 PM
Oldbike54,

No season and the tags are sold over the counter (see your local high end euro car dealership). Poulation was already out of control when I left in 2009. Many a sad tale has resulted from young ASU males, out on the town and drunk, getting abducted and put through the paces in ways they'd never imagined. Poor guys are never the same.....lucky bastards....

If you're heading out in search of them, train up in preparation

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Post by: MG McANICK on June 23, 2015, 03:46:54 PM
I remember being in a motel in Scottsdale several years ago in August.  My wife and younger son  went for a dip in the pool.  The 11:00 o'clock news was on.   When they got to the weather (Why bother? It's hot and sunny and will be till October.)  they said it was 115F.  At one time we thought we'd like to retire in AZ.  That trip convinced us otherwise.
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Post by: JJ on June 24, 2015, 07:51:59 AM
I remember being in a motel in Scottsdale several years ago in August.  My wife and younger son  went for a dip in the pool.  The 11:00 o'clock news was on.   When they got to the weather (Why bother? It's hot and sunny and will be till October.)  they said it was 115F.  At one time we thought we'd like to retire in AZ.  That trip convinced us otherwise.

I came to AZ for work in 1980. In between, I lived in NORCAL, Texas, and Germany, total of 9.5 years, but the rest of the time, here in the Valley. 

In AZ, there are no BIG natural disasters, like earthquakes, hurricanes, floods, etc.  The cost of living is reasonable and they have affordable housing.  :thumb: There are also 6X less people / cars here than in CA, for example.

Eight months of the year is lovely, warm days, cool nights, and there is a LOT to see an do around the state. :cool:   The roads / motorcycles riding is superb, overall.

However, make no mistake about it, 4 months is "SILLY HEAT" and by August, is almost unbearable.  :rolleyes: :undecided:

The scorching summer heat keeps many people away, but if you can live through this, it's not so bad, and there are certainly worst places on the planet to be living. :laugh:

However, after all these years of being a desert rat, my wife has had enough of the heat, and we may wind up in Asheville, NC for retirement. :thumb:  We'll see...
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Post by: charlie b on June 24, 2015, 08:02:07 AM
I left in 1971.  Went back for a couple of years in 80's.  Decided it was not where I wanted to live.  I do not go there in summer, even to visit my mother and one brother, who still live there.

Every now and then I have to go to Tucson on business.  It is hot enough to remind me why I don't want to live in that part of the country (Tucson is usually 5 to 10 deg cooler than Phx).
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Post by: Lannis on June 24, 2015, 08:06:40 AM
I came to AZ for work in 1980. In between, I lived in NORCAL, Texas, and Germany, total of 9.5 years, but the rest of the time, here in the Valley. 

In AZ, there are no BIG natural disasters, like earthquakes, hurricanes, floods, etc. 

Just unbearable misery 4 months out of the year.

Doesn't sound sustainable to me.   Water, electricity for air conditioning .... if anything starts running short, you'd have to move anyhow.

I've been in Phoenix, June 1990.   Our B-737 couldn't take off because the temperature on the runway was 127 degrees, and the 737 was not certified for takeoff at that temperature at that altitude.   Hell on Earth, as far as I'm concerned .....  :sad:

Lannis
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Post by: charlie b on June 24, 2015, 09:01:01 AM
Just unbearable misery 4 months out of the year.

Doesn't sound sustainable to me.   Water, electricity for air conditioning .... if anything starts running short, you'd have to move anyhow.

I've been in Phoenix, June 1990.   Our B-737 couldn't take off because the temperature on the runway was 127 degrees, and the 737 was not certified for takeoff at that temperature at that altitude.   Hell on Earth, as far as I'm concerned .....  :sad:

Lannis

And that altitude is only 1700ft.  :eek:
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Post by: blackbuell on June 24, 2015, 11:20:57 AM
I'm a desert rat: went to grad school at the University of New Mexico; became a desert animal ecologist; over the past 40 years I did much of my research in southern AZ during the summer months. Thankfully, most of the research was at locations with higher elevation than the greater Phoenix area: Ruby, Arivaca, San Manuel, Tucson, Portal. However, I have done much of the work when the day-time highs were 110-115 degrees F. As long as you stay hydrated, you can eventually adjust to working in the heat, but it does wear you down. Last year I decided that the desert work was too stressful to be fun any more for a person my age, and retired from it. I will still visit and camp in desert locations frequently (will do so in July), as I love desert habitats, especially when they come alive, as they do, at night.

Jon
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Post by: Arizona Wayne on June 24, 2015, 12:13:41 PM
Guess you could say living in Phoenix year round is like living in Needles, Ca.  :violent1:
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Post by: cruzziguzzi on June 24, 2015, 03:14:18 PM
I don't care to defend Arizona in part as I don't wish to contribute to any further amateur status population growth but I will say this as a support of our positions.

Business, recreation and familial obligations draw my wife and I to many, perceived as wonderful, cities and climates. Between matters; atmospheric, meteorological, social, political or population density... not one single alternative stands out to keep us from getting excited to get back the "The Valley", regardless of season.
Love it here and can't imagine living here and not reveling in the climate. Hell, anything else is a self imposed sentence. That'd be like me moving - for whatever reason - to the Pacific Northwest and complaining about rain or being closed in by rain forrest or...


Todd.
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Post by: Travlr on June 24, 2015, 03:44:01 PM
I played 18 holes of golf yesterday afternoon. 

And I wasn't the only one on the course.

Just came back from a ride today.

It sure as heck beats winters in the Midwest where you put your clubs and motorcycles away all winter.

Mike
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Post by: JJ on June 24, 2015, 05:02:08 PM
I seem to remember a dirt storm enveloping large parts of Southern AZ a couple of years back , is that an UNnatural disaster ? :grin:

  Dusty

@ Dusty - Yes, we DO have the occasional massive dust storm, known as a "HABOOB" :shocked: :rolleyes: :undecided:  and yes, they are BIG, and yes, they are natural, and they pass eventually, and don't cause any damage like major floods, earthquakes, and / or hurricanes.
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Post by: oldbike54 on June 24, 2015, 05:07:26 PM
@ Dusty - Yes, we DO have the occasional massive dust storm, known as a "HABOOB" :shocked: :rolleyes: :undecided:  and yes, they are BIG, and yes, they are natural, and they pass eventually, and don't cause any damage like major floods, earthquakes, and / or hurricanes.

 "Haboob" , yeah that's the name  :laugh: Oh , don't forget tornadoes , we are plagued wit all of the above here in Okiehomie , I have actually witnessed mud rain , that is fun  :rolleyes:

  Dusty
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Post by: Sasquatch Jim on June 24, 2015, 05:16:24 PM
  Is it more fun than a hurry cane, or Madam Pele spewing hot shit all over the place?
 How about a sue namy?
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Post by: charlie b on June 24, 2015, 05:33:16 PM
Interesting that folks keep bringing up a 9 month riding "season" in Phx.  Albuquerque has almost 12month riding season if pick your time of day.  During summer you can ride north to mountains.  During winter you can ride south.  Almost all year you can ride around town.  There is less than a month of days that I do not commute to work on the bike, and most of those are because of snow and ice in my driveway, not on the roads.
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Post by: Penderic on June 24, 2015, 06:20:36 PM
I had to look up "Haboob" on the web .... nasty looking thing! Yikes, I would try to outrun it if I saw that behind me! you shirley wouldn't want to be out riding in that!

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/arizona%20haboob_zpsl2kr9vdn.jpg)

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/sandstorm_zpssrmfsc7g.jpg)

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/sand-storm-epic-6_zpsqjrjazep.jpg)

Well, if I had a fast bike..... maybe.... :bike-037:
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Post by: rboe on June 24, 2015, 06:35:13 PM
Ug, just got back from a road trip. Low 50's in Newport Oregon (wonderful!), then over to Lewiston Idaho (lows in the high 50's, low 60's, highs in the low 90's - a bit too high for my taste, but fairly dry). Then we dropped back down into Hell. Gah. I'm a northern boy with cold skills, not so much for the heat. Sure you don't have to shovel the heat, but with snow, at least you can put on more clothes.

I"ll take the cold over the heat; but extremes either way are for the birds. Once the wife retires we're going to figure out a way to escape Arizona and the heat. May winter here; that has yet to be determined. She handles the heat like I can handle the cold.

I will miss the good Mexican food; the one thing I really missed on this vacation.

I forget the gory details; but I heard a story about two Arizona Indian scouts that died went to hell. They suck back and got their blankets.....
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Post by: travelingbyguzzi on June 24, 2015, 07:29:57 PM
We are gonna set records in Seattle this weekend. Highs in the 90s. Eastern WA will be well over 100°. It is still June. Hasn't rained (appreciably) since April.
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Post by: oldbike54 on June 24, 2015, 08:17:19 PM
We are gonna set records in Seattle this weekend. Highs in the 90s. Eastern WA will be well over 100�. It is still June. Hasn't rained (appreciably) since April.

 Yeah , we got all of your May rain , probably 14 inches or more .

  Dusty
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Post by: Arizona Wayne on June 24, 2015, 09:32:02 PM
We are gonna set records in Seattle this weekend. Highs in the 90s. Eastern WA will be well over 100°. It is still June. Hasn't rained (appreciably) since April.




It get's HOT in the summer in eastern Oregon/Washington !!!   But It get's COLD there in the winter time too !!!   :evil:  Kind of like central Nevada.  But they're a dry heat.   :laugh:
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Post by: HardAspie on June 24, 2015, 11:09:59 PM
A fun thing is that sometimes the dust is stirred up by winds falling from convective clouds. If conditions of cloud and wind and rain are just right, then, right at the edge of dust there can be a dust to rain interface and mud storms!
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Post by: cruzziguzzi on June 25, 2015, 09:59:50 AM
A fun thing is that sometimes the dust is stirred up by winds falling from convective clouds. If conditions of cloud and wind and rain are just right, then, right at the edge of dust there can be a dust to rain interface and mud storms!

It's my own personal pleasure to walk out and see the effects of this flash-baked onto my black Mercedes or any of the black motorcycles. Get the dust storm ("haboob" is for new-commers, snowbirds, contractor-chic types and news folks fancying themselves old school war correspondents 'cause they saw a guy in the desert with a gun once), throw in a touch of precipitation then immediately clear the clouds to flash it into mini mud rings on a paint that was already 135 degrees before the dust storm.

Weird confluence of effects and paint choices... and lack of cover. Takes vinegar to dissolve them without abusing things with polishing compound.

Todd.
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Post by: JJ on June 25, 2015, 01:05:57 PM
Interesting that folks keep bringing up a 9 month riding "season" in Phx.  Albuquerque has almost 12month riding season if pick your time of day.  During summer you can ride north to mountains.  During winter you can ride south.  Almost all year you can ride around town.  There is less than a month of days that I do not commute to work on the bike, and most of those are because of snow and ice in my driveway, not on the roads.

Yes, the riding season around the Valley is really 12 months, if you can take the heat in the summer.  :cool:  Just have to plan your rides around sunrise and between 9AM-10AM at very latest.  After 12 noon, the heat moves rapidly like a staircase up through sunset - - and it is dreadful! :rolleyes: :shocked:

I have ridden in 115+ degrees in a full coverage helmet / full gear, and it is not pleasant, but it is doable, as long as one stops and HYDRATES often! :cool:
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Post by: gsf12man on June 25, 2015, 04:28:36 PM
I like Phoenix and the Phoenix/Arizona Guzzi gang, for the few times I got to hang out with JJ and co. before relocating. But 122F is a little too warm. That fateful day I rode my Suzuki GS1100EZ to work, 17 miles one way, because the temp. sender on my Merkur XR4Ti chose to die during that heat wave. Car was fine, but without a temperature gauge I didn't dare drive it. That was a pretty hot ride. At work I was driving a BMW 7-Series and the outside temperature readout approaching Scottsdale was 133F.

I told this story to my brother in Aberdeen, SD, and he told me his fellow employee explained to him that I was fine, and would have been comfortable, because it was "a dry heat."

Best winters anywhere, though!
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Post by: HardAspie on June 25, 2015, 04:54:50 PM
Cornville Arodzona today. Clouds gather in the heat. No rain expected, but moisture is coming north from the gulf and Sea of Cortez. Monsoon en route.
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Post by: rboe on June 25, 2015, 05:35:14 PM
Out cleaning the truck after our road trip - it's turning into a wet heat. Not as bad as Minnesota humidity; but up there. :p
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Post by: Chuck in Indiana on June 25, 2015, 06:23:33 PM
Yeah , we got all of your May rain , probably 14 inches or more .

  Dusty

I was talking to our farmer yesterday, he said we'd had over 20 inches since May 22. (!!) He has 120 acres he can't even get in to yet, and it's too late. I've flown once this year. The runway hasn't been usable. No matter what the Naysayers say, I say that Mother Nature is pissed off. Record heat, cold, drought, and floods seem to be the norm.
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Post by: dee g on June 25, 2015, 11:18:59 PM



It get's HOT in the summer in eastern Oregon/Washington !!!   But It get's COLD there in the winter time too !!!   :evil:  Kind of like central Nevada.  But they're a dry heat.   :laugh:

I used to live in Mojave, CA.  115F in the shade was a common thing during the summer. Electricity was so stinking expensive there that I couldn't afford to run the a/c too much.  getting a $500 electric bill one month about killed me. So, I got used to living with out it.

Forecast for Wenatchee earlier this week was for 111F on Sat and Sun, but they have since scaled that back to about 105 for both days. Electricity here is MUCH cheaper (like only 2.5c per kwH), so I'll wimp out and have the a/c on.  :-)
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Post by: Stormtruck2 on June 26, 2015, 01:27:49 PM
113 in Henderson currently according to the thermometer I'm looking at. Will be a fun unload!
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Post by: oldbike54 on June 26, 2015, 01:40:03 PM
113 in Henderson currently according to the thermometer I'm looking at. Will be a fun unload!

 Iowa or Caaaleeforrnia ? :grin:

  Dusty

 OOPS , my intelligence service tells me that would be Nevada  :grin:
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Post by: AMGeneral on June 26, 2015, 01:51:52 PM
It makes the record 77 we had here over the weekend seem less severe.   :laugh:

Yea until you remember that the temp in Alaska goes the other way too. I could stand a record high of 77 in the summertime but not to fond of the temps winter will bring.

We've been bouncing right up against the 100 mark this week.