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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: flip on July 10, 2015, 02:50:37 AM
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I figure with this age group, there might be a few Beach Boy fans in the NC area. They(well, Mike Love, Bruce Johnston and some other guys) will be performing at ASU in Boone, NC, Saturday, July 18. I just ordered tickets. I think the last concert I went to was back in the 80's and it was...The Beach Boys!
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I saw them last year here in Jersey. John Stamos on drums. Good times, brought back memories - saw them may times in the '80's too.
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They're performing in Canberra later this year. I won't be going. I honestly feel that these sad old has-beens still spruiking themselves is very sad. It's not like they are truly musically catholic and knowledgeable like Ry Cooder or Elvis Costello. They are popular entertainers who, in their day, (Before their major author died!) produced some stunning tunes. The problem is their glory days were??? When was 'Pet Sounds' released? 1969? So FORTY SIX BLOODY YEARS AGO!
The fact that they once produced seminal albums of a bygone era does not mean they should be considered worthy of merit half a century on.
(rant mode off.)
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Pete, I get it, I really do. But, I still like their music.it takes me back to a time when I had hair in the right places. Plus they are playing on a university campus that my wife and I graduated from. So, more good memories. I cut a lot of classes back then so that I could ride those mountain roads on my Suzuki GS1100E.
Hmm, glory days decades ago...that sounds like Moto Guzzi!
Sorry, I couldn't resist. :grin:
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I love the early and mid period Beach Boys too. I can also understand the whimsy of revisiting places of past relevance. Next year I'll be returning to the country of my birth and will, maybe for the last time, who knows, be seeing the places most associated with my youth and upbringing. It will certainly bring me pleasure, as well as sadness, but I won't be trying to re-live any kind of youthful experience or believe that either I or popular entertainers of that time are in any way *Relevant* to the second decade of the twenty first century.
As an adjunct to that I feel that it shows enormous hubris by these people to believe that they still have anything to offer. Can they not rest on their laurels and let the music from a bygone age speak for itself? It can't surely be that they need the money???
Pete
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Think there was only one or two original members. Just relax and go enjoy the music!
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I'm a big fan. Have attended over a dozen of their concerts over the years. I played in a
"Beach Band" playing guitar, drums & keyboards for a couple of years during high school and we performed a lot of their songs. Back then, I could sing the high part that Brian Wilson used to sing.......but those days are long gone.
A guy that I used to work with (35 years ago) went on to become the person who ran their mixing board for the sound reinforcement equipment at their live concerts for a few years.
I recently saw a tv special and they still sound fantastic. They may be old but they can still rock with the best of them. Right now, there are two separate groups that are performing concerts: Brian Wilson & Al Jardine are the main members of one group while Mike Love and Bruce Johnson are the main members of the other. Several years ago, all four went on tour together along with David Marks who was a neighbor and original member of the group when their first album was released (he left due to Brian's father, who was an ass). The other two Wilson brothers (Dennis and Carl) are deceased.
Some of these old bands that are still touring are not very good any more but the Beach Boys (either group) are still giving concert goers their money's worth.
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Aside from the fact that we all know it is not 1966 - well, some of us know, anyhow - the quality of the base offerings holds up well. We're long past Mendelssohn or Bach achieving earth temperature and still have their notes wafting in the air - and well we should.
Is/was B. Wilson worthy of comparison? You bet as his music will long outlast his sad existence, on merit of skill/talent alone
So, to modern appreciation... I think it has a great deal to do with venue. The last time I saw them was at Laguna Seca with Chicago. Outside, diggin' the tunes on the grassy hillsides... what's not to love? Chicago too, especially CTA anthemic offerings... good golly miss Molly!
Inside though? Not quite sure I'm ready for that if that's the case - not unlike The Grateful Dead indoors. Aside from a bitchin' stereo indoors with atmospheric modifiers - Beach Boys, Chicago or The Grateful Dead notes should be flyin' freely even if the listener is not.
Go, groove and get over other's gripy, grumpy groaning about being "past prime", "beyond sell date" or trendiness.
Who among us is not?
Todd.
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About ten or twelve years ago I paid money for a ticket to a Dr. Hook show. That have been one of my favorites back in the day.
He had one old stoned out burned out member of the original group and all that guy did was shake a tamborine. The rest of the
group was a bunch of jonny come latelys who didn't really know how to do it well so they just turned up the volume until actual pain was the domminent feature. Dr. Hook himself was just a curmudgeonly shadow of his former self and the gravelly voice I remembered had deteriorated badly. I chewed up some napkin and stuffed it into my ears but before they had finished ruining the third song
I was on my way out the door, I just couldn't stand to hear the way they butchered the music I used to like. They were a sad bunch that only sported the name and none of the ability of the original group. I still occasionally listen to a Dr. Hook album and try to forget how badly they had sunk.
BTW, I went to a Beach Boys concert in Honolulu in 82 or 83 and it was great then.
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We have a similar situation locally. 'Back in the day' a local group called Bill Deal and the Rhondels had a couple hit records that resonated with the baby boomers. Now just about none of the original members are present and the band still has lots of local bookings. It's a good thing most of us have a hearing loss because I doubt this group sounds much like the original teen aged group. Nevertheless, it's fun to hear them play the same old set of songs. Oh, and tickets ain't expensive.
A few years I heard the Beach Boys in concert. They made a point of saying that if they had had any idea that they would still be on stage 50 years later they would have recorded more ballads. All those high notes must be hell on 70 year old vocal cords.
Peter Y.
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this movie is passing through the theaters now. It's about Brian Wilson. The early Beach Boy stuff is really good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_%26_Mercy_(film)
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Speaking of hair, one of the Beach Boys' musicians is one of the Cowsills.
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They're performing in Canberra later this year. I won't be going. I honestly feel that these sad old has-beens still spruiking themselves is very sad. It's not like they are truly musically catholic and knowledgeable like Ry Cooder or Elvis Costello. They are popular entertainers who, in their day, (Before their major author died!) produced some stunning tunes. The problem is their glory days were??? When was 'Pet Sounds' released? 1969? So FORTY SIX BLOODY YEARS AGO!
The fact that they once produced seminal albums of a bygone era does not mean they should be considered worthy of merit half a century on.
(rant mode off.)
Brian Wilson is still alive, but with a few less brain cells. :)
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Brian Wilson is still alive, but with a few less brain cells. :)
au contraire
see the movie. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903657/
I think he's got his act together now.
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Something like this concert could be the inspiration I need to get my Honda 305 Superhawk, that is in parts, up and running. Help me Rhonda on that one.
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Bob Pirsig rode a Superhawk , might be time for a reread .
Dusty
I have a copy of the book if you need. Never have been able to finish that either. I like the Superhawk a lot though.
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I have a copy of the book if you need. Never have been able to finish that either. I like the Superhawk a lot though.
Probably 3 copies scattered around the house . Sometimes I will just pick it up and read a few pages . No doubt it is a tough read , have had friends call me and ask , "WTF is he trying to say ?" Pirsig does address the problem you are having finishing the Honda , thus my mentioning the book .
Dusty
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What Pirsig tells you is the frame of mind you need to be in to work on your motorcycle.
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Yeah, they're coming to Tyler Texas in October. Husband and I WILL attend!
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My 305 Superhawk followed my S-90 and preceeded the RD350. Rode the Superhawk from my home in Reading MA to Ft. Holabird, Baltimore MD in February (1969). Was banned from most of the highways, so it was rte 1 and state roads for almost 14 hrs temps at 35. Got lost in Philly and after stopping at a traffic light I noticed there were no white folks around for blocks.....apparent ly so did this nice 50 something old black dude who went around to the back of his place, rolled out a Harley and rode up beside me. He smiled, said "you are lost man", asked where I was heading. Told him, he laughed and said "I'll lead you there." Ahhh, the good olde days.
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Just saw Brian Wilson last night in Seattle. The brains behind The Beach Boys stuff, sadly is a shell of himself by now, but he has the brains to have an awesome band behind him including Al Jardine. An 11 piece wall of sound was a great show. Jardine's kid Matt nicely took over many of the falsetto stuff neither of them could really hit anymore. A great show of some classic stuff as well as a sampling of his new album/ Oh,the opening act? Sixto Rodriguez! For anyone who knows him....I need not say more...for others...check out "Searching for Sugarman"
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Just saw Brian Wilson last night in Seattle. The brains behind The Beach Boys stuff, sadly is a shell of himself by now, but he has the brains to have an awesome band behind him including Al Jardine. An 11 piece wall of sound was a great show. Jardine's kid Matt nicely took over many of the falsetto stuff neither of them could really hit anymore. A great show of some classic stuff as well as a sampling of his new album/ Oh,the opening act? Sixto Rodriguez! For anyone who knows him....I need not say more...for others...check out "Searching for Sugarman"
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au contraire
see the movie. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903657/
I think he's got his act together now.
Saw this last week. Highly recommend it - not so much for the "Beach Boy" stuff. More so that it offers a glimpse into this gentle genius that some real butt-holes took advantage of.
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It was a great show and we really enjoyed it!
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Saw the Beach Boys (with Brian and Al) at the Santa Barbara Bowl during their 50 year reunion tour. It was bittersweet. Yeah, Brian's voice is shot, but for the first time in years it looked like he was having fun playing with the band.
The music was wonderful and brought back so many good memories. They did a bit with a video of Dennis (the only one of the group who actually surfed and who died of drowning - alcohol was involved) singing lead that was very poignant.
It's a shame that Brian does not have the rights to the Beach Boys name, since he really was the heart and soul of the group.
Very glad I went as it was probably the last time the core of the Beach Boys will ever perform together. I doubt I would go see the Mike Love incarnation as it's not really the Beach Boys but a cover band with one original member.
jdg
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JDG, I'm jealous. The show you went to was the one to see.
At the show I saw, Mike Love sounded pretty good. I realize Bruce Johnston wasn't there at the very beginning but he joined the band early enough that I think he can be called a Beach Boy now.
They played a lot of video at this show. They showed Dennis Wilson and also Carl Wilson performing.
All of the songs sounded good to great except my wife's favorite, Kokomo. Don't hate her, she's too young to be a baby boomer so she just doesn't understand...Anyway, Kokomo just had something missing.
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JDG, I'm jealous. The show you went to was the one to see.
At the show I saw, Mike Love sounded pretty good. I realize Bruce Johnston wasn't there at the very beginning but he joined the band early enough that I think he can be called a Beach Boy now.
They played a lot of video at this show. They showed Dennis Wilson and also Carl Wilson performing.
All of the songs sounded good to great except my wife's favorite, Kokomo. Don't hate her, she's too young to be a baby boomer so she just doesn't understand...Anyway, Kokomo just had something missing.
OK, I'll give you Bruce as a Beach Boy, but it still ain't Brian :wink:
Glad you enjoyed the show and the videos of Dennis and Carl.
Kokomo?? sheesh! Oh well, at least she knows who the Beach Boys are and likes their music. See if you can find a copy of them doing the Lord's Prayer - the harmonies and modern chords are amazing. You don't have to be religious (and I'm not particularly) to find it a unique and stunning version of a tune "everybody" knows.
jdg
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Do they have little surfboards on their walkers? :boozing: