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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: kirb on July 14, 2015, 01:27:01 PM
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Some may remember Katarzyna from a ways back:
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x350/jtkirb/Bike%20pics/319222_220361478025770_377689526_n_zps9df02bb5.jpg) (http://s1177.photobucket.com/user/jtkirb/media/Bike%20pics/319222_220361478025770_377689526_n_zps9df02bb5.jpg.html)
Sadly, via facebook, this was posted (see is OK). The polish translation built into facebook isn't always up to the task, but the bike is toast and she is OK...
(http://jtkirb.smugmug.com/Bikes/i-MGq444p/0/M/Griso%20down2-M.jpg) (http://jtkirb.smugmug.com/Bikes/i-MGq444p/A)
(http://jtkirb.smugmug.com/Bikes/i-7pWGGjp/0/M/Griso%20down-M.jpg) (http://jtkirb.smugmug.com/Bikes/i-7pWGGjp/A)
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photobucket access seems painfully slow. Photos may not load...(switched to smugmug for these)
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She isn't what ?
Dusty
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My guess is that she isn't toast.
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(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/385610_438738276161803_1824990725_n.jpg?oh=baa4b0479956a5bf86b4bc81e407bee2&oe=5618EB9E)
That's going to leave a mark.
Dean
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No, she's not. I've seen toast. It looks nothing like her. :angel:
Judging from the distance and parts removal there was some speed happening when she wrecked. I'm glad the damage was confined to the bike.
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Well, one of those things we all learned in kindergarten ....
Running with scissors is fun till someone gets an eye put out. Hope the lesson price doesn't come high. Sounds like it didn't ....
Lannis
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So far from all the pics shown with her it looks fictitious. Is any of this real? :rolleyes:
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The jumper look photoshopped, the wheelie I'm not sure about. But the wreck looks real. The only question there is who's bike is it?
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One of those confusing extra-wide intersections, where a rider going straight can get stopped and trapped in the middle, while cars turning from both directions zip dangerously around you!
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Well, one of those things we all learned in kindergarten ....
Running with scissors is fun till someone gets an eye put out. Hope the lesson price doesn't come high. Sounds like it didn't ....
Lannis
WTF? You see evidence of a crash and your first instinct is to scold? Not one person above asked if she was OK.
That is kinda shameful. Also, young female that ride BIG Guzzis are pretty f***ing rare and need to be cherished or this brand is going to die with the rest of us old farts.
SJ
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I love young people with spunk!! Glad she's o.k..
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In both photos, her left hand mirror is chrome but it looks like the one in the accident scene has a black mirror ... if I see correctly.
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WTF? You see evidence of a crash and your first instinct is to scold? Not one person above asked if she was OK.
That is kinda shameful. Also, young female that ride BIG Guzzis are pretty f***ing rare and need to be cherished or this brand is going to die with the rest of us old farts.
SJ
Well, yes, there are comments to the effect of "is she toast?" It's other words used to ask if she's ok. Also, the woman has a reputation for being something of a squid. When a squid crashes, we point and scold. It's what we do. And yes, women on Guzzis is something we cherish and want to see. Women crashing their guzzis after posting pics of wheelies -- not so much. Someone pointed out that it's an extra-large intersection. Looking at the distance between the two piles of bike, it's not a stretch to say she was moving right along when the crash happened.
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Cobblestones. :angry:
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Also, young female that ride BIG Guzzis are pretty f***ing rare and need to be cherished or this brand is going to die with the rest of us old farts.
SJ
First let me get my daughter onto a Scooter more, then small block and finally a big block. She can pick up a big block fine with a little instruction.
she didn't take after her mother and be petite. She took after my side, along with the bigger Swedish Women of her Grandfather's sister.
Mark
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Some may remember Katarzyna from a ways back
(http://jtkirb.smugmug.com/Bikes/i-7pWGGjp/0/M/Griso%20down-M.jpg) (http://jtkirb.smugmug.com/Bikes/i-7pWGGjp/A)
That's a scary place for a bike seat to wind up. Getting out of that without much trauma seems lucky for sure.
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I see two bikes down and two cars involved -- a car and bike on the sidewalk, a car and bike out in the intersection. I'm glad she's OK. What about the other rider, and how did this happen?
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I see two bikes down and two cars involved -- a car and bike on the sidewalk, a car and bike out in the intersection. I'm glad she's OK. What about the other rider, and how did this happen?
Unless one can speak Polish , and knows the LEO who worked the wreck , it's gonna be tough to figure that out .
Dusty
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It's hard to interpret from the two pics (I can't make them bigger). I see two piles of bike, but I can't sort out how many bikes are in the two piles. The one in the street looks like accessories and the one against the car seems to be machinery. I only see one car 'involved'. The one the griso is up against appears to have been parked and struck by the sliding bike.
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WTF? You see evidence of a crash and your first instinct is to scold? Not one person above asked if she was OK.
That is kinda shameful. Also, young female that ride BIG Guzzis are pretty f***ing rare and need to be cherished or this brand is going to die with the rest of us old farts.
SJ
Me thinks it's time to mount the tractor and get some fresh air. :huh:
Judging by the "fun pics", she's into shock value. Not sure either one is even "real" tbh. She would have had to leap out of a tree for the second photo over the bike unless those are Air Jordan's she's wearing. However, when she comes down it's going to hurt so I think she never went up to begin with. Do I trust the accident happened with HER... I'm skeptical. I hope ANYBODY would be ok in that scene. She's getting press here because she's a chick who does (or appears to be doing) crazy stuff on a Guzzi. If this was done for shock value on her media page it wouldn't be the first time somebody did weird things to get attention.
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WTF? You see evidence of a crash and your first instinct is to scold? Not one person above asked if she was OK.
That is kinda shameful. Also, young female that ride BIG Guzzis are pretty f***ing rare and need to be cherished or this brand is going to die with the rest of us old farts.
SJ
Shameful to who? Not to me. Assuming that ANY of this is real (and I'm assuming it just for discussion value) the rider made a point of acting like a stupid squid on the highways (not on the track, not in the dirt, on the same roads we ride on).
I hope than ANYONE that wheelies and farts around on a big Guzzi and splashes it all over the Internet remains rare, because we don't need any more squids, tough guys, loud-pipers, get-back-whips and all that stuff making the REST of us look bad, and the REST of us looking like targets for pissed-off cagers.
And finally, if "this brand" needs that shit to survive, then it had best die. I'm not particularly worried about it; they've been dying for 94 years now and I can still buy a new one. And I do.
Lannis
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Wow.....aren't we a perfect lot to judge....been down enough times to know, sometimes it ain't the riders fault.......sad to say, and bothers me that this thread resembles all the news talking heads....much conjecture.....damn ed few facts. Keep it real.
Lee
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I've been known to pull the odd wheelie on the public road on everything from an SP1000, (By mistake getting out of an intersection in London in about 1985 to let an ambulance through!) to my current G8. You will never see me doing it though because I choose a stretch of road I know intimately and I do it for the 'Lets see what she'll do' factor and MY puerile pleasure.
We know nothing of the circumstances of the poor woman's crash but I see no foul in her popping a wheelie on her Griso as long as the time and place, (Which we know nothing of.) put nobody at risk but herself.
If she habitually rides like a loony in built up areas? That's a different matter but we have no evidence of that so how's about stopping with the sanctimonious scolding! You're like a pack of old wimmins!
Pete
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Yep , nothing wrong with a bit of hooliganism , in the appropriate place of course . Once , years ago , I wheelied past a bus full of high school cheerleaders , they sis boom bahhed :laugh:
Dusty
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It's hard to interpret from the two pics (I can't make them bigger).
Hmmm, with my iMac I just double click and they enlarge.
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You're so special.
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her facebook ID: Katarzyna Karolina But not much to see there if you are not her freind.
https://www.facebook.com/katarzyna.jaskulska.9
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Ah, so THAT'S why the traction control on my '16 Stone can be easily disabled.
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Wow, had I known this would have been the thread direction...
#1- she used to take very tasteful photos of her, the Griso, and old Soviet buildings as well as action shots. Some of the corner shots would indicate she rides better than most. SHE didn't spread these around the net- that would be others that happened across them. Again, she was a photographer, or at least a popular subject of one.
#2- it's real and only posted here for an update and not shock value. She posted some pics with a splatter of responses. Polish slang doesn't translate well, but it seems she is OK (her helmet was rashed up). Her friend faired a bit worse with no details.
#3- The action shots are from YEARS ago. She has been riding since then with no issues until now. The only shots shared are the action ones, so that is all anyone remembers.
This happened on Monday, so details are thin. Assumptions, not so much.
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Wow.....aren't we a perfect lot to judge....been down enough times to know, sometimes it ain't the riders fault.......sad to say, and bothers me that this thread resembles all the news talking heads....much conjecture.....damn ed few facts. Keep it real.
Lee
Any "judgment" I might make is based on the "reality" of the situation, which none of us really know.
IF the rider has been making a point of splashing stunter boyz pics on the Internet (and that's the impression they want to make) and
IF the rider is in the habit of riding like an idiot (a reasonable deduction - I've never seen a counterexample when they "post pics")
THEN a wreck in an intersection might be expected to happen, and (AS I said) a good lesson learned for a small price paid, if they're still alive.
This is a Discussion Forum, not a Court of Law where no opinion may be expressed unless Evidence Beyond a Reasonable Doubt has been shown by the Commonwealth's Prosecuting Attorney. I get a good chuckle whenever someone with a meter stick up their arse tells me to "keep my opinion to myself" here on WG!
Lannis
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Clearly, I should have posted these pics and not the other 'squid' pic. Not that it would matter to some...
(http://jtkirb.smugmug.com/Bikes/i-6jKNPFP/0/M/324472_220362271359024_980336472_o-M.jpg) (http://jtkirb.smugmug.com/Bikes/i-6jKNPFP/A)
(http://jtkirb.smugmug.com/Bikes/i-792BtNn/0/M/10690118_807785009283411_1054276736671811688_n-M.jpg) (http://jtkirb.smugmug.com/Bikes/i-792BtNn/A)
(http://jtkirb.smugmug.com/Bikes/i-r7Lxgsn/0/M/1052947_662899370438643_1651680055_o-M.jpg) (http://jtkirb.smugmug.com/Bikes/i-r7Lxgsn/A)
I appreciated the concern by other riders when I went down via a deer. Thank you for the ones who have shown concern to this downed rider. She is still posting, but not giving too much detail still.
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her facebook ID: Katarzyna Karolina But not much to see there if you are not her freind.
https://www.facebook.com/katarzyna.jaskulska.9
A cigarette! That's it, I'm not asking her out. :angry:
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A cigarette! That's it, I'm not asking her out. :angry:
Whew, that'll save you a lot of trouble, long-distance relationships and all that. Good thing you found out early before it went too far! :grin:
Lannis
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From the looks of that oil, it looks like it need draining anyway.
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Any "judgment" I might make
Judgment is dude`s middle name.
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Judgment is dude`s middle name.
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"Judge not, lest ye be judged". :evil:
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WTF? You see evidence of a crash and your first instinct is to scold? Not one person above asked if she was OK.
That is kinda shameful. Also, young female that ride BIG Guzzis are pretty f***ing rare and need to be cherished or this brand is going to die with the rest of us old farts.
SJ
Notice in the OP it says ******** "The polish translation built into facebook isn't always up to the task, but the bike is toast and she is OK".*****
So the OP says she is OK then she is OK. Everybody is responding to this as if she is OK cause it says so.
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"Judge not, lest ye be judged". :evil:
My pay grade doesn't extend to "judge" - that would require that I know what someone was thinking or what's in their heart.
I can, however, be a "fruit inspector". You don't have to be a judge to see a worm sticking out of an apple, or a brown soft spot on a tomato, and say "I see a worm!" or "I see someone showing off on a motorcycle!"
It would take a judge to say "The preponderance of evidence shows that Charlie Mullendore left that apple on the ground where a worm could get to it." I wouldn't do that. :thumb:
Lannis
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Charlie would not leave an apple on the ground. He would turn it into something useful on a loop frame. :laugh:
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A cigarette! That's it, I'm not asking her out. :angry:
Distance and the inability to speak Polish might be only two small hurdles...there is a possible third that would disqualify you completely.
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Distance and the inability to speak Polish might be only two small hurdles...there is a possible third that would disqualify you completely.
Oh, man, Jim, he DID put a hurtin' on you that time ... I guess what we've heard about Polish men is true, then ...
Lannis
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I don't know, Lannis, I was thinking Kirb might not have been talking about organ size.
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c327/triplejim/Misc/pipe_organ_zpsujijnoiz.jpg)
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Any "judgment" I might make is based on the "reality" of the situation, which none of us really know.
IF the rider has been making a point of splashing stunter boyz pics on the Internet (and that's the impression they want to make) and
IF the rider is in the habit of riding like an idiot (a reasonable deduction - I've never seen a counterexample when they "post pics")
THEN a wreck in an intersection might be expected to happen, and (AS I said) a good lesson learned for a small price paid, if they're still alive.
This is a Discussion Forum, not a Court of Law where no opinion may be expressed unless Evidence Beyond a Reasonable Doubt has been shown by the Commonwealth's Prosecuting Attorney. I get a good chuckle whenever someone with a meter stick up their arse tells me to "keep my opinion to myself" here on WG!
Lannis
Nice bit of fiction Lannis. Have you thought of writing for a living? :cheesy:
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Nice bit of fiction Lannis. Have you thought of writing for a living? :cheesy:
It's all "IF"s and "Opinions". How can any of it be fiction? IFs and Opinions can't be "true" or "false" or "fact" or "fiction"; they can only be things with which you agree or disagree.
And I've noted that some people just start foaming at the mouth when they see an opinion with which they disagree, and they can't erase it and shut up the other person. They try, but you'll notice it doesn't work very well .....
Lannis
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In keeping with the campfire spirit of this board, I make it a rule to write nothing here that I wouldn't say face to face.
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In keeping with the campfire spirit of this board, I make it a rule to write nothing here that I wouldn't say face to face.
This .
Although I am much more crude in person .
Dusty
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In keeping with the campfire spirit of this board, I make it a rule to write nothing here that I wouldn't say face to face.
That's a good rule, and it's what I do. And why I use my real name as a screen name, although I note that most people who use a different screen name don't hide their real names actually, Seth being an example. Hasn't failed me yet!
Lannis
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This .
Although I am much more crude in person .
Dusty
me too. I like to talk frankly instead of the diplomatic style I portray here.
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me too. I like to talk frankly instead of the diplomatic style I portray here.
Yeah , and if folks knew our real names they would hunt us down and deliver an ass whuppin :rolleyes:
Dusty
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My name is Mark.
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My name is Mark.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Mark , I'm guessing the distances involved will keep most of the ass whuppins to a minimum :grin:
Dusty
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.... I see no foul in her popping a wheelie on her Griso as long as the time and place, (Which we know nothing of.) put nobody at risk but herself. \
..... so how's about stopping with the sanctimonious scolding! You're like a pack of old wimmins!
Pete
here, here... if I could hear...
Can any one of you old fools, who lay claim to 30, 40, 50 years of two wheeled seat time say, with honesty and a straight face, you have done nothing stupid while managing those bars? I call bullshit. I'd be happy(embarrassed) to start a thread: ... "so how stupid have you been?"
Hopefully the rider (gender irrelevant) learned and retains a lesson.
The photoshopped images are crap (and poorly done)... I think that approach to self-grandeur is symptomatic of western culture's belief that the 'image is the message'
Sch-ite: a couple hours on a decent computer and I could post myself on my V7 in an exit battle with Rossi & Marcus. Or I could wait several ion until it actually occurs.
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Mark , I'm guessing the distances involved will keep most of the ass whuppins to a minimum :grin:
Dusty
Maybe I'd like to do some of the whuppin.
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Maybe I'd like to do some of the whuppin.
We have a couple to send your way , ya want 'rm both at once , or one at a time ? :evil: :grin:
Dusty
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We have a couple to send your way , ya want 'rm both at once , or one at a time ? :evil: :grin:
Tee hee. :evil:
Maybe I'll come to you. :grin:
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Tee hee. :evil:
Maybe I'll come to you. :grin:
Might be cheaper . (Guzzi content) :laugh: Bring that crazy ex pat Brit along , probably not much good in a scuffle , but he knows his way around over here :grin:
Dusty
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Really? Do you know what you are up against? Well, good luck with that!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/catfight_zps6jbrqda5.jpg)
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To get back to the original thread..... :wink: I think if I look closely that the oil from the Guzzi actually starts in the intersection, and the car it is wedged under appears to be actually parked in a parking bay.
Supposing said MG rider was in the middle of the intersection with gear engaged but clutch pulled in, a whack from the back could well propel the bike there. The other one appears almost to be coming from the opposite direction. Who knows how it got there.
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like vasco said.. some of you sound like old wimmens :thewife: but meh
(http://jtkirb.smugmug.com/Bikes/i-MGq444p/0/X2/Griso%20down2-X2.jpg)
the car next to police car has front-end damage and what looks like that front-end is on the ground just north of the red bike... so the suggested rear-ender into Ms Griso could be right.. and the other bike is just stopping by?
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No, she's not. I've seen toast. It looks nothing like her. :angel:
Judging from the distance and parts removal there was some speed happening when she wrecked. I'm glad the damage was confined to the bike.
Well 30mph = 44ft / second which would easily account for the apparent distance in the pic. so maybe speed wasn't excessive.
Just looking at it and assuming that the bike bits are all from the same bike, it looks as though she got hit by the car as she came through the intersection. Hard to say though and no way of knowing who had the right of way. (though I would take a small bet the bike did, just on general principles.)
Glad she is OK. She looks rather nice actually. One small wheelie does not a squid make, which is not to say she is not... um...enthusiastic.
Edit.
In the enlarged pic above most of the "pile of bike" in the center of the road appears to be a perfectly undamaged scooter. Not part of the original incident?