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Title: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Penderic on July 14, 2015, 07:02:39 PM
Pics starting to arrive from the probe so far far away!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/gettyimages-480661458_zpsxeiv6dkl.jpg)
Looks lonely.  :cry:
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on July 14, 2015, 07:05:44 PM
Shocking this 15yr NASA mission cost exactly half as much as the Cowbots new stadium
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: rodekyll on July 14, 2015, 07:11:52 PM
That little orb has taken a hammering.
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: lucydad on July 14, 2015, 07:16:39 PM
Yes lots of recent hits, and to my geologists eye a very, very complex terrain.  I see possible lakes of methane?  Seasonal features? 
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Penderic on July 14, 2015, 07:36:58 PM
Cowbots?
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/cowbots_zps04tecwa9.jpg)
ok
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Triple Jim on July 14, 2015, 07:40:31 PM
Yes lots of recent hits, and to my geologists eye a very, very complex terrain.  I see possible lakes of methane?  Seasonal features?

I don't know about seasons... the temperature is always below the freezing point of methane.  Maybe methane skating ponds.    :grin:
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on July 14, 2015, 07:41:40 PM
Shocking this 15yr NASA mission cost exactly half as much as the Cowbots new stadium

Maybe Jerra can finance the Mars mission?  :cool: :boozing:
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: lucydad on July 14, 2015, 09:46:38 PM
Triple,

You are likely correct.  Titan is much larger, with higher gravity and a pretty thick atmosphere.  It is also a lot closer to our Sun and gets a lot more heating.  PV = nRT comes into play with Titan methane lakes also.

Pluto's variable terrain will be quite likely revealed in extreme detail sometime next week.  The light/dark could be compositional, or could be related to impacts. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakes_of_Titan

Dang cold and dark out there in Pluto land.  Exotic as hell.  Fascinating.
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: guzzipete on July 14, 2015, 11:23:06 PM
have we sent a probe to Uranus yet?
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: cj750 on July 15, 2015, 12:01:37 AM
 The high resolution version is causing some concern:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJ5Hn6BWoAUZ45f.jpg)
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Penderic on July 15, 2015, 01:28:01 AM
Well, it sure looks like a planet(oid) to me.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/tr401atg-w484h484z1-9177-dear-nasa_zpsanxfl2lw.jpg)
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on July 15, 2015, 03:57:56 AM
have we sent a probe to Uranus yet?

I can't read the page.  My laptop is shaking too much from my laughter.
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: boatdetective on July 15, 2015, 04:08:37 AM
Sorry, but I've always been in the camp that just doesn't get it. Methane, shmethane, what does it matter? Are we to believe that this momentous event will bring Mankind untold advances like Tang, space pens, and space blankets?
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: sib on July 15, 2015, 06:45:35 AM
Sorry, but I've always been in the camp that just doesn't get it. Methane, shmethane, what does it matter? Are we to believe that this momentous event will bring Mankind untold advances like Tang, space pens, and space blankets?
All depends on what enriches your life.  For some, it's knowledge, for others, it's Twinkies.
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Wayne Orwig on July 15, 2015, 06:56:26 AM
Sorry, but I've always been in the camp that just doesn't get it. Methane, shmethane, what does it matter? Are we to believe that this momentous event will bring Mankind untold advances like Tang, space pens, and space blankets?

And velcro, don't forget velcro. It is what hold us together.
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: redrider on July 15, 2015, 07:24:25 AM
And Teflon for heart valves.
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: boatdetective on July 15, 2015, 07:31:44 AM
All depends on what enriches your life.  For some, it's knowledge, for others, it's Twinkies.

Well, that's certainly patronizing. Questioning the real world benefits of the space program hardly makes me a knuckle dragger.
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Penderic on July 15, 2015, 07:34:46 AM
You Earthlings are just so special!  :rolleyes:
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/miss%20universe%20winners_zps7hulujnu.png)
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: steven c on July 15, 2015, 09:25:54 AM
 I find this fantastic.  :thumb: Space, far out.
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Lannis on July 15, 2015, 09:31:05 AM
Well, that's certainly patronizing. Questioning the real world benefits of the space program hardly makes me a knuckle dragger.

I hope what he was trying to say is that finding out about the previously unknown and the universe we live in is one of the things that makes us different from a chimpanzee (oops, this may be a different level of patronizing).

We're more than just walking stomachs that need to be fed - we have minds and curiosity too.   

Me, I'm all for it.    I'd hate to think that we wouldn't be interested in what Mars might hold because we should spend the money on better Twinkies or something (ouch, I just can't stop ...)

Lannis
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: wrbix on July 15, 2015, 11:46:55 AM
That little orb has taken a hammering.
Yeah, being demoted to a dwarf planet is enough to crush any planet's ego.
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: wrbix on July 15, 2015, 11:50:23 AM
........make a Twinkie better? No way.
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Penderic on July 15, 2015, 03:44:48 PM
Rumor is that Titan has oceans of whiskey!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/whisky3kt_zpsut2yntrm.gif)
Methane ice gives it a funny flavor though.  :boozing:
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: gearman on July 15, 2015, 03:59:16 PM
Sorry, but I've always been in the camp that just doesn't get it. Methane, shmethane, what does it matter? Are we to believe that this momentous event will bring Mankind untold advances like Tang, space pens, and space blankets?
I can't even get new Orleans to fix the streets here . It is all about priorities.
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Penderic on July 15, 2015, 04:33:48 PM
What amazes me is so many differences in the extra terrestrial bodies.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/moons_zpsvr3zo3yd.png)
If they were all the same then exploring unknown space would get boring very quickly!

The quest to answer the age old question ...... what is over the next hill?
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: oldbike54 on July 15, 2015, 04:37:59 PM
 Pennie , I am waiting for a square celestial body , or even better , one that resembles a T-Rex  :grin:

  Dusty
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Penderic on July 15, 2015, 04:45:02 PM
Pennie , I am waiting for a square celestial body , or even better , one that resembles a T-Rex  :grin:

  Dusty

Sorry Dusty, nothing like that floating around space that I know of.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/eg-Mars-face-llama_zpsiej6que5.jpg)
But maybe there are.  :rolleyes: We just got to look a little harder.  :grin:
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: oldbike54 on July 15, 2015, 05:50:56 PM
 Wow , 10,000 foot tall ice mountains !

  Dusty
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Stormtruck2 on July 15, 2015, 06:56:19 PM
Wow , 10,000 foot tall ice mountains !

  Dusty

Lorraine dear, fetch me some more Scotch. I got a mess of ice here.
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on July 16, 2015, 01:56:23 PM
Well, that's certainly patronizing. Questioning the real world benefits of the space program hardly makes me a knuckle dragger.

throw out your GPS
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: boatdetective on July 16, 2015, 02:26:43 PM
throw out your GPS

Knock it off. You all know precisely what I mean. Whether Titan is made from methane or blue cheese is essentially meaningless. Are you saying that none of the advances mentioned could have been conceived of if the engineers did not have the mission to send a tiny probe bajillions of gigalons into space to take pictures of gas balls?

The "knowledge for knowledge sake" argument, in essence, is an admission that the scientists involved are just coming up with pictures of blue vs white gas balls and they have to make us all feel that this is a momentous step for mankind.

Sorry about my total incapacity for abstract thought, but if you want to develop GPS, radial tires, flush toilets, etc- awesome. Just don't shuck and jive me into believing that the bajillions of dollars spent on counting the angels dancing on the tenth moon of Venus have enriched my life.

-Cro magnon man
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Penderic on July 16, 2015, 02:56:28 PM
The program cost $720 million.

That's less than the cost of the $1 billion Vikings stadium.

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/MONEY-DOWN-THE-DRAIN_zpsmhttzddm.jpg)
Who is winning?
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Triple Jim on July 16, 2015, 03:04:41 PM
There was a whole era when technology was partially driven by the space program.  That's generally over now, and it's driven by the consumers' willingness to pay for it.  The computers that most of us have at home are newer and more powerful than the ones in the space station.

Dusty, from Wikipedia:   "Once patent priority was resolved, in Bayer's favor, Bayer began commercial production under the trade name Makrolon in 1958 and GE began production under the name Lexan in 1960."

The Apollo program was conceived in 1960.
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Penderic on July 16, 2015, 04:33:52 PM
Wouldnt have had the Industrial Revolution without the early Space program!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/cheap%20space%20capsule_zpsi50qrcpd.jpg)
 :boozing:
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: malik on July 16, 2015, 04:57:24 PM
Much, much better the space programs for tech impetus than wars, it produces such neat stuff.

I like us having frontiers, and regret not having access to that next one in my lifetime. We may well bugger it up along the the way with our fumbling, but it has, is & will produce such glorious moments.

Mal
Title: Re: Not Goofy. Pluto!
Post by: Muzz on July 16, 2015, 05:31:21 PM
If you look carefully at the white mass on the bottom of the planet I am sure you can see Pluto's face!