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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rough Edge racing on July 15, 2015, 10:58:41 AM
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90 percent of my riding since 1972 has been on Triumphs. There's been a few Tonti Guzzis, 750 bevel drive Ducati and Harley shovel heads along the way. I feel very confident on the old Brits, flick them over with just a thought, handle any road situation that comes up. I had the 1000 Guzzi cafe for a few years but never completely adjusted to the difference....
So I bought this 97 Buell tube frame a few months ago. 83 HP , 435 pounds with more or less modern sport bike type handling. A whole different animal than an old Triumph that's for sure. And a lot different than the Guzzi or even my friend's 1050 Speed Triple. I am getting more confident and enjoying the bike more....Keep in mind I'm a bit cautious at 68 years old just like some of you...or not...
How about you guys, do you have an long "introduction " to a different type machine?
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Adjustment period for me is about 500-miles or a month, whichever occurs first.
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Not really.. <shrug>
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I do notice differences. I ride a V7 stone daily now. I have 4 BMW airheads and a Ural, a Honda PC800, and have had F800gs, KLR 650, WR250, and others. On the Stone, I had to get used to the "snatchy" throttle at low speed, the crappy shocks, but otherwise no problems. I don't really have problems adjusting, but have to remind myself, for example, of how poor the brakes are on the airheads after riding the Guzzi. Not a big problem though.
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I had this same thought about 3 months ago:
Lannis
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With a few bikes in the garage, I'd say not really. Biggest switch was when I bought the Ural, cause it's not really riding a bike, but now it's my daily commuter so I find hopping off that and back onto the Griso or the DR is no big deal, I just get to feel acceleration again! :thumb:
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Not really, every now and then I fire up the old Bul with the shifter on the right and hop a log just to throw myself a changeup :laugh:
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I ride a new bike very conservatively for the first few days. With the T as a baseline, I think first about the effectiveness of the brakes, then the low-speed handling (top-heavy? slow?), and of course the clutch/transmission action. For the past year I've been switching back and forth between the '70 Triumph (right-side shift) and the Guzzi (left-side), so I've become pretty ambipedalous and rarely hit the brake when I meant to shift.
When I don't like the way a bike handles, I get rid of it. The Triumph and the T are very different in weight but both are very neutral, stable and predictable. So handling isn't an issue. Braking and shifting certainly are.
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I had this same thought about 3 months ago:
Lannis
Yes , and I see Chuck from Indiana has changed his mind about differences :laugh:
Lannis, you ride Brit bikes and know they handle more by thought than pushing on the bars to counter steer. The older Buell requires countersteering ,but less than the Triumph 1050 Speed triple and a lot less than the Tonti frame. The wide radial tires also affect handling. The old Triumphs let you know when the limits were near with subtle hints..
At first during slower corners I found myself overturning and then correcting. At higher speeds all I have to do is push on the bar with moderate effort. 83 HP Sporty engine doesn't sound like much by today's standards but it has more acceleration that my other bikes. So it compresses time and what's in the distance comes up real fast...And the wheelie factor if careless with the throttle in first and second...
I always was told a rider has a far higher risk of a wreck on an unfamiliar bike... I'll admit to being no more than an average rider so caution is advised..
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Yes , and I see Chuck from Indiana has changed his mind about differences :laugh:
Perhaps he just doesn't remember that far back ... :evil: :wink: :laugh:
I'm still switching back and forth between the Norton and the Stelvio, and the first miles on either are NOT a pleasant experience ....
Lannis
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I always treat a new (to me) bike very gently and have never abused a demo from dealer! I want to develop a feel for the bike before I trust it. I even check tire pressures, chain tightness, and feel of controls before starting out. Always test the brakes several times in parking lot before entering a road.
If I keep it, suspension is next thing I go over when I get home.
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I occasionally ride early British bikes with the shifter on the right side. After riding left side shifters all my life, I don't really feel I would comfortable in a panic stop situation.
Also, sometimes I switch from my Ducati to my RD400, which have w a y different power bands!
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Yes , and I see Chuck from Indiana has changed his mind about differences :laugh:
Lannis, you ride Brit bikes and know they handle more by thought than pushing on the bars to counter steer. The older Buell requires countersteering ,but less than the Triumph 1050 Speed triple and a lot less than the Tonti frame. The wide radial tires also affect handling. The old Triumphs let you know when the limits were near with subtle hints..
At first during slower corners I found myself overturning and then correcting. At higher speeds all I have to do is push on the bar with moderate effort. 83 HP Sporty engine doesn't sound like much by today's standards but it has more acceleration that my other bikes. So it compresses time and what's in the distance comes up real fast...And the wheelie factor if careless with the throttle in first and second...
I always was told a rider has a far higher risk of a wreck on an unfamiliar bike... I'll admit to being no more than an average rider so caution is advised..
Not really.. :smiley:
The brake feel is totally opposite on those two machines. Fortunately, that doesn't bother me..
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When I get any different bike/scooter it usually takes me 2-3 weeks to really feel confident on it for all occasions. Even switching from straight roads to multiple curvy roads takes me awhile to get back in the groove. If you don't use it, you lose it. :cheesy:
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For many years I've had at least three bikes in the garage at one time (for example, XL1200 Custom, Buell M2 Cyclone, BMWs R1150R and K1200GT), so I'm pretty used to switching rides. Still, I try to consciously make note of the location of the controls on today's ride before I take off. Now I'm down to just two, but the control locations are very different between the two.
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Yes definitely. See my comparo of V7R and new Triumph 675 STRX....
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For many years I've had at least three bikes in the garage at one time (for example, XL1200 Custom, Buell M2 Cyclone, BMWs R1150R and K1200GT), so I'm pretty used to switching rides. Still, I try to consciously make note of the location of the controls on today's ride before I take off. Now I'm down to just two, but the control locations are very different between the two.
The horn and turn signal are reversed on the Ural/Griso so yeah I honk for turns every once in awhile.
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When I go from riding my 06 Buell Uly for a while then get on the 74 Eldorado, it's about the brakes about the brakes. Uly has great 2 finger brakes, Eldo has 4ls four finger and a thumb and a lot of hand strength. But the Buell I'll ride in a spirited fashion and the Eldo is laid back.
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The horn and turn signal are reversed on the Ural/Griso so yeah I honk for turns every once in awhile.
That's why I put identical Japanese switchgear on the T and TR6R.
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I never had a problem going from right shift Brit bikes to left shifters. I might be the only guy here who admits to be a crappy rider? I try to make up for suspect skills by being extra observant...Other riders say my head is constantly moving checking out the surroundings for enemy vehicles or animals.... So when I get on a strange bike ,the attention needed to adjust takes away from my need to be vigilant ...
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Sometimes the first time ride is an overwhelming experience!
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Till you get used to it.
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Going from a 2011 VStrom to a 1974 Eldorado for my main transportation was a lot to get use to. Like the reverse shift and braking. She stops like a loaded semi-truck :laugh:. Maybe the next improvement will be a Jake brake.
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Between the V7R and Triumph STRX:
--Guzzi I am careful to let the throttle spin up before clutch out and always, always give her a minute to warm up
--Guzzi front brake takes a firm pressure
--Guzzi sends me into meditative state, smooth and strong and I push the engine for everything it has
--Guzzi throw it into a curve and hang on as she is bouncy sometimes
--Guzzi idle is an Italian Choir, high throttle is loud and guttural...
--Triumph I am careful as throttle is so sensitive...easy peasey, or pay the consequences fast in a wheelie
--Triumph brakes are light as a feather, strong as an ox, be careful
--Triumph cornering appears to have no limits, on rails, deep and incredibly fast--Moto GP world
--Triumph idle is a humm and whizz and brrr......and demands the clutch out to go from N to 1st
--Triumph has something truly awe-inspiring above 9000 RPM, one of these days I will get there before the road runs out and my nerve too
--Triumph amazing sounds, but air blasty.
Oh and the Guzzi is simply gorgeous. The Triumph reminds me of a Klingon warbird by comparison.
Yep, have to pay attention. Fun though. Big contrast. Love both bikes. No boredom here.
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Adjusting to the brakes of any other bike when I come off the EV is always a big deal. It's easiest on my DR though as the rear brake isn't for braking anyway; it's for sliding and, if I get enough air, controlling the flight plan :)