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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Cam3512 on July 15, 2015, 07:05:55 PM
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Don't know if this has been mentioned here yet, but it's been posted over on GuzziTech.
Nice!
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s674/Conklin3512/CONKLIN-PC/V7%20Special/2016V7II-Racer_zps6w0bmxlz.jpg) (http://s1311.photobucket.com/user/Conklin3512/media/CONKLIN-PC/V7%20Special/2016V7II-Racer_zps6w0bmxlz.jpg.html)
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"other premium components include the aft mounted footpegs machined from solid billets" . That does it, I am buying one tomorrow! :laugh:
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Dazzling
:popcorn:
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I like the chrome and green tanks. This piebald matte one? Not so much.
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Like it or not, this is how a company sells bikes like this with small cosmetic changes each year that help to generate continued interest.
The Harley faithful bitch about it each year calling it "paint and badges", but new customers embrace it.
Maybe it's just variety, you hit across enough color combinations and you hit on one for each person.
Maybe it's that those small changes make it feel new each year and that's enough to push someone who was thinking about buying one over the edge.
Maybe someone really liked last year's color and doesn't want the new color so they run out and snag a leftover.
I dunno - but it seems to work.
And certainly it makes more sense than changing nothing and letting sales stagnate.
EDIT - although I think I preferred the green one (and might have rushed out to locate one if I was in the market/on the fence), I have to say the more I look at it I like the lines on that tank, the red stripe does look good. And I just noticed the seat has more padding, that's not a bad thing. Yeah, I like this one too.
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Yea, I'm digging it. Nicest Racer thus far. Wise move to delete the silly #7's.
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The rear of the tank gives the old lemans look and the red stripe is a cool affect with the front frame rail in parallel. I'm much more a fan of aluminum, so the overall suits me much better. I think it's cool.
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NICE!
Of course, the value of my 2013 just went down a little.
That's OK, it's good to see the incremental improvements every couple years.
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Too much red. It should be an accent, not the main sub color. As always, the number boards are an embarassing affectation. I like the bike. It's just that they dress the "racer" up too gaudy.
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I agree. I had a black-tanked 2012, but even that was a bit much. I'm thinking the Racer is too gaudy and the Stone is a bit too plain. Maybe the Special will be just right. I guess that's why there are three models.
I think Cam's black and silver special (especially with the 1/4 fairing) is about perfect visually. :thumb:
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I think it's a nice update, I'll look forward to seeing better photos and maybe even one in person some day. I agree with Kev's points. For those who were "7" and chrome haters maybe this one will do the trick. Personally, I like the 7s and the chrome so I have the right bike for me. I do like the green too. Personally I wish they would put one out there with the full Record kit, I'm not even sure if they are offering that as an add on anymore. I know the Stucchi fairing is available, but I don't like its design as much as the Record version.
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I like it better than the chrome tank racers.. between that gaudy tank and the 'racing' number plates on a 45hp bike... I have never liked the racer.. but this one at least looks much better
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I had been hot to get a V7 II Racer in the near future as an around-town bike (to complement my highway bike, the Norge). Now, I am much less inclined. Too much black; too much matte...
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I'm loving the satin-finish tank and upgraded shocks. Always thought the standard racer was a bit over the top styling wise for my taste. This will be my next bike!
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Personally I wish they would put one out there with the full Record kit, I'm not even sure if they are offering that as an add on anymore. I know the Stucchi fairing is available, but I don't like its design as much as the Record version.
There are limited record kits available again.
Additionally it looks like the Special is being supplemented with scrambler kits for 2016.
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There are limited record kits available again.
Thanks for the info, How does one obtain a kit? Order through dealer or is there another source?
Additionally it looks like the Special is being supplemented with scrambler kits for 2016.
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The Racer's have always been a hot mess. I hope they bring this for 2016:
(https://sagmart.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/moto-guzzi-v7-ii-stone.jpg)
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^ That looks great! I am generally not a fan of matte paint, but the new Stones look good. I might consider one of those instead of the Racer (and then fiddle with it by eliminating the rear fender, lowering the gauges, installing LOUDER pipes (hello, Pete!), replacing the seat and handlebars, etc.
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Limited for 1000 unit? Does Guzzi sell that much V7 in States to make these 1000 Racer "Limited"?
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^ That looks great! I am generally not a fan of matte paint, but the new Stones look good. I might consider one of those instead of the Racer (and then fiddle with it by eliminating the rear fender, lowering the gauges, installing LOUDER pipes (hello, Pete!), replacing the seat and handlebars, etc.
You're lookin' for some woopass aren't you! :grin:
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^ Ha ha!
By the way, the US MG site has a catalog you can download that shows all of their current bikes. The V7 II Racer is shown with both chrome and green tanks, and with brown seats. This new matte black one is not in the catalog. Interestingly, both the chrome- and green-tanked V7 Racers are new IIs, with the horizontal frame.
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Very handsome and well done. Incremental improvements. They need to put twin front disc brakes on though.
Waiting for the curtain rise on the mystery bike between a small and big block.
Little Goose still thinks she is the prettiest small block ever made. She winked at me and we roll out tomorrow morning around 8 AM for a blast before the heat builds.
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Very handsome and well done. Incremental improvements. They need to put twin front disc brakes on though.
Waiting for the curtain rise on the mystery bike between a small and big block.
Little Goose still thinks she is the prettiest small block ever made. She winked at me and we roll out tomorrow morning around 8 AM for a blast before the heat builds.
Best brake set-up that hauls a small block down in a hurry is dual discs up front; one for the hand and one linked with the foot. Stunning system and very safe. Have never locked the rear and amazing how much speed you can scrub with your foot in a hurry. ABS is all the rage now.
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^ Ha ha!
By the way, the US MG site has a catalog you can download that shows all of their current bikes. The V7 II Racer is shown with both chrome and green tanks, and with brown seats. This new matte black one is not in the catalog. Interestingly, both the chrome- and green-tanked V7 Racers are new IIs, with the horizontal frame.
The V7 racer with the green tank is not a - II variant
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^ Scroll down to the V7 II Racer page:
http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/public/upload/brochure/mg_range_my15.pdf (http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/public/upload/brochure/mg_range_my15.pdf)
There they both are.
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^ Scroll down to the V7 II Racer page:
http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/public/upload/brochure/mg_range_my15.pdf (http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/public/upload/brochure/mg_range_my15.pdf)
There they both are.
It is my understanding that the Verde Legnano SE variant of the V7 is a 2015 US only bike and is NOT a -II.
http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/motorcycles/v7-racer-verde-legnano-se.html
Now, have they decided to bring it back for 2016 as a -II ?? I don't know. But I don't I trust that brochure.
It says V7-II Racer and Verde Legnano for 2015, which is not correct.
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But I don't I trust that brochure.
I don't "trust" anything in print from Piaggio/MG.
They seem to have a great ability to put incomplete info out there and/or to change their minds.
So I suspect EITHER could be true in the end.
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Yeah you'd have to ask your dealer to order one
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What's the MSRP on one of these. At least it would hold value even though the upgrades aren't that awesome
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What's the MSRP on one of these. At least it would hold value even though the upgrades aren't that awesome
$10,990, according to the link. It's also a pre-II 5-speed model.
http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/motorcycles/v7-racer-verde-legnano-se.html
"Hold Value" ?
You're kidding, right ?
:grin:
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No, not kidding.
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No, not kidding.
So you've never owned a Guzzi before eh? :grin:
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Not ALL depreciate . Look at some of the vintage loops, V7 Sports, 750S, 1000S...
Only most new ones. Nobody has that magic crystal ball.
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Not ALL depreciate . Look at some of the vintage loops, V7 Sports, 750S, 1000S...
Only most new ones. Nobody has that magic crystal ball.
All depreciate.
Maybe a few have since spiked, but even then, shyte, didn't half require their initial value in repairs or restoration?
And even then, they'll depreciate again.
Kinda like the #1 fact of a motorcycle... All will eventually fall over, even if it takes until they got the scrapyard, they don't stand by themselves.
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1 of only 50 guzzis made is pretty rare. I'm not sure how many duc Mike Hailwood replicas were built, but then again that was a very very special bike, in a different league than the green guzzi
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To become expensive something has to not only be rare, it had to be WANTED, the larger the audience the better.
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To become expensive something has to not only be rare, it had to be WANTED, the larger the audience the better.
OK, you win.
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To become expensive something has to not only be rare, it had to be WANTED, the larger the audience the better.
Provenance also matters. The identical bike once owned by "someone" will usually fetch more. (I guess that's part of WANTED). Think Elvis's pink caddy.
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I am not sure what will be available in the US. It looks like there could be three different versions of the V7 II Racer. If so, my vote is for the green one, followed by the chrome, followed by the black and grey matte one.
I would love it if MG would give us the option of ordering a particular version. (I guess they sort of do with their collections of add-on bits.)
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1 of only 50 guzzis made is pretty rare. I'm not sure how many duc Mike Hailwood replicas were built, but then again that was a very very special bike, in a different league than the green guzzi
Don't understand the crazy prices being paid for the MHRs . The modern ones look nothing at all like the original , and they aren't mechanically special . some weird market thing going on there .
Dusty
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Its a freshly tuned Picasso?
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/bad%20instructions_zpsumqhpo1j.jpg)
Sorry, cant afford it. :rolleyes: