Wildguzzi.com
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: sign216 on July 24, 2015, 09:27:06 PM
-
Just moved into a new house. Am adding a workshop for my motorcycles. What size is too small, too big, excetra.
I do all my own maintenance but usually avoid any larger tools like an auto lift. I have three motorcycles; two that are ridden and one in storage. I'm going to keep it at about that number, but may get a fourth bike down the line.
Right now I'm thinking 20ft by 12ft. Reasonable?
Any qualities or accessories I should demand of the builder?
-
No such thing as too big. My garage is 28X24 and it is too small. Need more room for work benches.
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p518/Stormtruck2/Bike%20Garage/DSC_0138_zps22a9bb46.jpg) (http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/Stormtruck2/media/Bike%20Garage/DSC_0138_zps22a9bb46.jpg.html)
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p518/Stormtruck2/Bike%20Garage/DSC_0137_zpsf5ad8367.jpg) (http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/Stormtruck2/media/Bike%20Garage/DSC_0137_zpsf5ad8367.jpg.html)
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p518/Stormtruck2/Bike%20Garage/DSC_0141_zps86d4670a.jpg) (http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/Stormtruck2/media/Bike%20Garage/DSC_0141_zps86d4670a.jpg.html)
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p518/Stormtruck2/Bike%20Garage/DSC_0140_zps3cc69bdc.jpg) (http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/Stormtruck2/media/Bike%20Garage/DSC_0140_zps3cc69bdc.jpg.html)
I really would recommend a bike table. Best money I ever spent. Build as large as you can. :thumb:
-
Mine is 20 x 20. Nowhere near bid enough. Of course, it also has my wife's Suzuki Swift, the Guzzi, three push bikes along with metal bandsaw, lathe, dropsaw, pedestal drill, various welders, hydraulic press, lawn mower and a partridge in a pear tree. :rolleyes:
-
You can never have too much light or too many electrical outlets...Alan
-
Never big enough! I have a 1500 square foot garage (5 car) and its packed. Three cars and three bikes. I have a cycle lift table and a scissors car lift so they take space. I would suggest at minimum 30 feet deep and 40 feet wide.
-
This is the empty one. 30 X 40. (https://scontent-lax1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/396921_3557330448736_884685046_n.jpg?oh=b71681ff0a071c21f0ac99174d11e0df&oe=564BCEC5)
-
This is the empty one. 30 X 40. (https://scontent-lax1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/396921_3557330448736_884685046_n.jpg?oh=b71681ff0a071c21f0ac99174d11e0df&oe=564BCEC5)
Very nice building!!! I would like to build something similar for my retirement. 12 foot walls?
-
MIne's 48'x96' and it's too small. Just get about 4X what you think you need, so you won't outgrow it for a few months.
-
Mine's 30' x 40'. About right for me. When I'm filling it up, I've really got more projects than I can do, and it's time to get rid of things.
I've got lots and lots of 120V, 20 amp outlets, and quite a few 240V outlets for things like welders and compressors, only one of which I'm using. I have one 240V 50 amp outlet for the electric heater. 3 workbenches for parallel projects. One attachment point in the ceiling (10 ft ceiling) for a chain fall.
You can never have too much light. I have 9 8-foot long quad fluorescent fixtures, so 36 fluorescent tubes on the ceiling, and 12 more over my workbenches.
I could have had a Vincent for what it cost 15 years ago, but it is SOOO worth it .....
Lannis
-
Jeezus, I feel kinda guilty w/a 3 car garage. :embarassed: No room for the car or truck.
-
Like the others said, go as big as you can. I think you'd outgrow 20' x 12' real quick. I agree with Dusty, go at least 20 x 16. The extra 4 feet makes a huge difference. One of my garages is 22 x 16. I have about a 2' work bench along the back wall. It is small, but descent space.
Good luck
Randy
-
Very nice building!!! I would like to build something similar for my retirement. 12 foot walls?
The former owner bought some antique post and beam barn frames. Outside is modern siding. Inside is mortise and tenon. really cool.
-
Mines a 30' x 30' with 8' rollups, a 9' joist height and it's still to small.
One thing that I didn't plan on is the "little woman" taking up two stalls. :thewife:
You're going to need 2' along one wall with about 6' of walk / work space.
One of the best things I did in building my garage is No Windows! Put windows in the rollups at above 6' and skylights. Also sheetrock the walls but keep the roof structure open for storage.
If I had it to do over again I'd do a 30' x 40' and put a partition wall down the wife's side at 12' so she could keep all her junk over there.
-
Mine is 30x50 with an insulated "Shop" and motorcycle storage area that is about 14x30. I get along with that with two Guzzi's anda Trail 90.
It sure could be bigger however. I use one of those hotel type of combination heat/AC wall units.
GliderJohn
-
More space=more motorcycles=less $$=unhappy wife :thewife:
-
Two points:
1. Test and measure any layout ideas. For example can you park a car, open the door and still clear the lawnmower or workbench or motorcycle parked next to it?
2. Cost of front, back of building, overhead door or whatever will show you that the 'incremental cost' is very low. For all the material and work the difference between a 12' wide and 16' wide is...?
Cheers,
Mike
-
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/posts/2015/05/422015143553-5544c51c22659.png)
I think this is what I need. My current garage is too small to discuss. It does keep my bike and tools dry, at least.
Sam
-
Wife has her own single car garage for her Miata, and I'll be strict about none of her debris creeping into my motorcycle workshop.
Previous house had a good size double bay garage, and it was impossible keeping her items from invading my space. My side was approx. 12 x 22 or 24, and plenty of room. Although, having a separate work bench for gunsmithing is a great idea. Maybe I should allot for that.
-
Since you are planning on this being a motorcycle workshop and not a parking garage for lawn mowers etc. I would think a 20x16 would be adequate. However big you make it make sure you have more than enough outlets. I have an outlet every 4ft. in my garage.
-
We have a 2 door but 3 stall 34'x26' and it would be nice if it was bigger :boozing: I'm down to 3 bikes now and it seems huge even with the lift in there, remember when you put up shelves and a work bench the space gets smaller, in the winter I put my 2 cars in and with the bikes there is very little room to work without taking 1 of the cars out, sooo take the size you think will work and then double it and it will probably still be to small, plus like the others have said put outlets and lights everywhere :thumb:
-
Depends if you are looking for lots of storage space or work space or both.
I have a 20 x 24 garage and five years ago added 5 feet x 18 feet to one side and cut open the side wall, installed a 4 foot wide door out the lane. I can work / store two bikes in the annex, two cars in the garage side and have a lot of bench space in front of the cars. More room would be very nice but I get buy. You can do a lot with less.
As many have said, lots of power option, compressed air (in my attic), floor drain and water. Lights, lights and more lights, and paint the floor.
Overhead natural gas heat, drywall and OSB walls, insulated and sealed and a big through wall exhaust fan.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1972%20Moto%20Guzzi%20850%20Eldorado/DSC02701_zps7bfabbdc.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1972%20Moto%20Guzzi%20850%20Eldorado/DSC02701_zps7bfabbdc.jpg.html)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/DSC02792_zps310fa917.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/DSC02792_zps310fa917.jpg.html)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/74%20V7%20Sport/DSC04042_zpsba83cab6.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/74%20V7%20Sport/DSC04042_zpsba83cab6.jpg.html)
I make great use of the overhead crane I installed to suspend bikes during disassembly and reassembly.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/DSC02801_zpsc195665a.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/DSC02801_zpsc195665a.jpg.html)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/74%20V7%20Sport/DSC03966_zps7d79bf4c.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/74%20V7%20Sport/DSC03966_zps7d79bf4c.jpg.html)
Most of my tools are close to reach, I sold off my big tool boxes years ago.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/74%20V7%20Sport/DSC04020_zpsc9fe4c14.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/74%20V7%20Sport/DSC04020_zpsc9fe4c14.jpg.html)
a four foot six inch wide bench is still useful
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/DSC03763_zps9afc9f53.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/DSC03763_zps9afc9f53.jpg.html)
I don't have much room left for any more tools or bikes in this garage but it works for me.
-
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/posts/2015/05/422015143553-5544c51c22659.png)
I think this is what I need. My current garage is too small to discuss. It does keep my bike and tools dry, at least.
Sam
I'm in love, I always say if I win the lottery I will build a garage with a house attached
-
Central heat and a/c, regardless of what climate you are in. Insulation to go with that. Bike table / car lift and overhead space for a hoist or pulley.
garagejournal.com is a great resource.
My three-car has my wife's car, my daughter's Jeep, and I get the third bay for a workbench and the bike. My car is out in the elements....
-
All garages are too small. No garage in the history of forever has ever been too large.
When I grow up I'm going to build this huge garage and park a motor home inside for a house.
-
WARNING.....The Law of Expanding Gases..... does apply to any size shop you build. :thumb:
-
I get the third bay for a workbench and the bike. My car is out in the elements....
That's what I did in my previous house, I reserved my garage bay for the bikes and workshop. Car was left to the elements.
-
I'll chime in...as big as you can afford, and then some. Electrical outlets every 4' (the ones with four outlets), at least one 220 outlet on each wall, and a couple outlets in the ceiling. I'm serious about the ceiling. In my shop I have one outlet in the ceiling, directly over my table saw, with an extension dangling down where I can easily plug in a drill, sander, or other tool. This saves having an extension cord strung across the floor where you can trip on it.
LED lighting is finally coming into its own and now the prices are getting reasonable. Install lots of lights, particularly over any work benches. As you get older you will need the extra light.
Peter Y.
-
I'll chime in...as big as you can afford, and then some. Electrical outlets every 4' (the ones with four outlets), at least one 220 outlet on each wall, and a couple outlets in the ceiling. I'm serious about the ceiling. In my shop I have one outlet in the ceiling, directly over my table saw, with an extension dangling down where I can easily plug in a drill, sander, or other tool. This saves having an extension cord strung across the floor where you can trip on it.
LED lighting is finally coming into its own and now the prices are getting reasonable. Install lots of lights, particularly over any work benches. As you get older you will need the extra light.
Peter Y.
I agree that ceiling outlets are really nice as is a large, high and sturdy workbench. I have some ceiling outlets wired to a switch for lighting so I can shuffle the light fixtures around as I see fit.
My garage is 22 by 28 deep. It's enough for the typical 4 bikes I have at any given time along with the tools, bike lift, storage for bike stuff, house maint tools and I can still get a car in for service or severe weather avoidance.
As a practical guide years ago I built a building for bikes to live in. It was 12 wide by 10 deep with 3 doors on the 12 foot wall. It turns out that a 10 by 12 footprint is a good minimum space for 3 bikes to park. You won't fix anything in there without moving one of them out.
Another way to look at it: I use approx 10x14 in my garage just for the toolbox, lift, bench and space to work. Nothing parks there.
Try this exercise:
Park your bikes in a clear area and then put a table there with them and mark off space for your tools and whatnot. Remember that you have to be able to navigate around it all and you don't want to play musical bikes every time you want to ride a particular one. You should be able to get an idea this way of what to go with size-wise.
On a very specific note I am using Feit 38 watt LED shop lights, bought them at costco for 35 bucks each. BRIGHT AS THE SUN!!! And they don't dim over time unlike my eyeballs.
Then add 3 ft to both dimensions! :thumb:
Hunter
-
I reckon you'll get by ok with 20x12 or 16.
Here in the UK garages are generally a lot smaller and hardly anyone one puts their car inside anyway. They'd rather put the lawnmower and garden furniture in there and leave the expensive car outside.
A lot comes down to the shape of the garage. I bought my timber garage to fit the space available and so it's 30x10 - long and skinny. It's worked out well. Easy parking at the front end for my 2 Guzzis (plus one) and room for the lift and benches at the further end.
(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab317/v7johnpics/DSCF0265.jpg)
(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab317/v7johnpics/DSCF0339.jpg)
-
Sign 216,
I agree completely with v7john. 20x12 or 16 should work out fine. I make do with 8x20 (3 bikes) though of course more room is always desirable. HF has their mc dollies on sale at $69 and they make a world of difference in space utilization. I would invest in more lighting before more outlets.
-
I have two garages, well actually one but divided into two sections; 30' x 20' and a 12' x 20', the 12' x 20' part is my bike workshop.
One thing to consider, at least here in England, is that it's difficult (read expensive) to heat a large garage in the winter time which is when I do most of my 'fettling' so I only heat the smaller workshop part of the garage, the larger part is for cars & general storage.
-
Duke, Jbell, and VJohn,
Thank you for the support. The other responses made me feel unmanly unless I had a hydraulic car lift, a whirlpool bath, and facilities to cast my own iron. It's refreshing to see that I can still be a full-fledged motorcyclist with a shade less.
-
When I bought my house 2 years ago the garage was with it..
It is 30' x 60' but the first 20' is a carport that is in front of the 2-9' garage doors..The garage doors are on the end of the garage,,not the long sides of it..I love working under the carport section of it in the 3 seasons..Plenty of natural light and a breeze is usually blowing..Not to mention sitting in a rocker drinking a cold suds while looking out across the lawn..
The height is 9' but wished it was 10'..I insulated it after putting a quad outlets every 4' with quads every 2' at the widow/workbench area..220v every 10'..All outlets are above the workbenches but the ones by the doors are 2' from the door to use extension cords outside..I also put outdoor outlets under the carport..
It is NOT big enough..All walls have workbenches/shelving/cabinets/parts washer/drill press/welders/gunsmithing lathe/filing cabinet/air compressor/etc..I have several retractable extension cords coming from the ceiling and air line running all over..
Plan the shop carefully..
-
If you're just going to store bikes and do some light maintenance then 12 x 20 doesn't sound unreasonable. Keep in mind, any workbench space or storage will erode that 12 x 20 footprint and leave less room for bikes and less room to work. Be honest about what you want to do with the space now (and in the future) and whether 12 x 20 will be sufficient.
Put some time into how you want to lay out the internal storage and workbenches and see what sort of actual floor space you have left. For me, it would be important to have easy access to whichever bike I wanted to ride without having to jostle them around to get one out. I'd want to be able to open the door, hop on whichever bike, and go.
As far as building amenities go, this would be my list of "must haves" (in no particular order):
1) Well insulated and as air tight as possible with heat at a minimum and A/C would be nice...
2) Plenty of electrical outlets (a few 220V included to run a welder, air compressor, etc...)
3) Built in Air Compressor & lines (put the air comp up off the floor or in the attic space if possible)
4) Plenty of lights (If the overhead garage door is left open, make sure the overhead lights won't be blocked)
5) Tire changing machine, manual is fine (need a small manual balancer but they fit on a shelf easily)
6) Bike lift
7) Electric overhead hoist on tracks. Something large enough to pull a car engine or lift a complete motorcycle.
8) Internet connectivity.
9) Sink. It's nice to be able to wash your hands before going back to the main house.
10) A couple carpeted shelves to put painted parts on. Probably overhead and away from the main workbench. Removable when not needed?
11) I would have an interest in adding some machine tools (small mill and/or lathe) so having a solid foundation to support the mass would be important along with any electrical requirements.
12) Easy to clean floor surface with as few seams as possible (seams suck for catching tiny screws and creeper wheels!) and a solid color to make finding dropped screws easier.
13) Storage for riding gear and/or work clothing.
14) Some consideration for ease of cleaning. If you live somewhere dusty, it's nice to be able to pull out a garden hose an hose the shop out to get rid of the dirt.
That's all I have for now. Good luck!
Just moved into a new house. Am adding a workshop for my motorcycles. What size is too small, too big, excetra.
I do all my own maintenance but usually avoid any larger tools like an auto lift. I have three motorcycles; two that are ridden and one in storage. I'm going to keep it at about that number, but may get a fourth bike down the line.
Right now I'm thinking 20ft by 12ft. Reasonable?
Any qualities or accessories I should demand of the builder?
-
Duke, Jbell, and VJohn,
, and facilities to cast my own iron. It's refreshing to see that I can still be a full-fledged motorcyclist with a shade less.
You only need the iron foundry for British bikes. For Guzzis a wine press and some barrel storage........ :boozing:
Hunter
-
Thank you for all the responses and ideas. I drew my proposed garage to the scale and added the work benches and other stationery items. I could tell it was going to be too tight, especially if down the road I add a bike lift or get another motorcycle. So I think I'll push the entire design out to 12 by 24 feet.
I like the idea of putting bikes on dollys, as that's a space saver. Getting a bike lift would take up dedicated room. Not sure if the benefits outweigh the space taken up. I'll post that in a separate thread.
-
Not sure if the benefits outweigh the space taken up. I'll post that in a separate thread.
I bought a $299 HF lift when I started on the Lario project. My only thought after starting to use it was why did I wait so long? :grin: Fortunately, I can roll it out in the hanger out of the way when I'm not using it. They do eat up a fair amount of space, but I personally wouldn't be without one again.
-
sign2166,
12x24 would do you proud. Maximize your storage with vertical, adjustable wire racks, a good tool chest can be used as your workbench and I've stretched a wooden shelf across the top of my storage racks for overhead storage. My shop size is about 8.5 ft x 20 ft with about 6 ft between the racks. I had a 16 ft. garage door which I replaced with a 6 ft for me and a 9 ft for my wife's car. Crowded? yeap, but workable.
(http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/jbellinoff/PICT0282_zps8iugfqnj.jpg)
(http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/jbellinoff/PICT0281_zpsbiieguap.jpg)
(http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/jbellinoff/PICT0284_zpsdqt5z3x7.jpg)
-
sign2166,
12x24 would do you proud. Maximize your storage with vertical, adjustable wire racks, a good tool chest can be used as your workbench and I've stretched a wooden shelf across the top of my storage racks for overhead storage. My shop size is about 8.5 ft x 20 ft with about 6 ft between the racks. I had a 16 ft. garage door which I replaced with a 6 ft for me and a 9 ft for my wife's car. Crowded? yeap, but workable.
(http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/jbellinoff/PICT0282_zps8iugfqnj.jpg)
(http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/jbellinoff/PICT0281_zpsbiieguap.jpg)
(http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/jbellinoff/PICT0284_zpsdqt5z3x7.jpg)
Nice!
I love seeing small spaces used to their maximum potential, kinda looks like the Russian side of the ISS :grin:
-
I love seeing small spaces used to their maximum potential, kinda looks like the Russian side of the ISS :grin:
Well, my last name does end in "off". :rolleyes:
-
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/posts/2015/05/422015143553-5544c51c22659.png)
I think this is what I need. My current garage is too small to discuss. It does keep my bike and tools dry, at least.
Sam
This... I have a 2 car garage for the DD's. And a 20 x 36 shop. I have 24 bikes at home, and 4 cars inside. I still have to park the jeep outside and constantly move bikes around.
I could use 30 x 50.
-
I love seeing small spaces used to their maximum potential, kinda looks like the Russian side of the ISS :grin:
Well, my last name does end in "off". :rolleyes:
Jbell, I appreciate the "making do w what you have" philosophy. For use of your space, you deserve an award in economy.
-
Depends if you are looking for lots of storage space or work space or both.
I have a 20 x 24 garage and five years ago added 5 feet x 18 feet to one side and cut open the side wall, installed a 4 foot wide door out the lane. I can work / store two bikes in the annex, two cars in the garage side and have a lot of bench space in front of the cars. More room would be very nice but I get buy. You can do a lot with less.
As many have said, lots of power option, compressed air (in my attic), floor drain and water. Lights, lights and more lights, and paint the floor.
Overhead natural gas heat, drywall and OSB walls, insulated and sealed and a big through wall exhaust fan.
I make great use of the overhead crane I installed to suspend bikes during disassembly and reassembly.
Most of my tools are close to reach, I sold off my big tool boxes years ago.
a four foot six inch wide bench is still useful
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/DSC03763_zps9afc9f53.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/DSC03763_zps9afc9f53.jpg.html)
I don't have much room left for any more tools or bikes in this garage but it works for me.
The overhead crane is a super idea. I noticed the old avocado hand-me-down oven for heating parts for assembly. I've always thought how handy that would be.
Tommaso
-
I have 3 bikes and built a 24 x 12 workshop/garage for them with an in-floor bike lift. Build detailed here:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237146
Works well but would be nice to have a separate clean area for bike storage away from grinders and such.
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j365/fangitjoe/DSC_0162c_zpsbkkef2tl.jpg)
-
Fangit,
I looked at your garage thread and it's an awesome build . Love the doors and other details.
Cam3512 also suggested a recessed bike lift. It's an idea that I'm liking now. What brand of lift did you get and why did you select that make and model?
-
Fangit,
I looked at your garage thread and it's an awesome build . Love the doors and other details.
Cam3512 also suggested a recessed bike lift. It's an idea that I'm liking now. What brand of lift did you get and why did you select that make and model?
Thanks. I'm in Australia. I ordered this unit:
http://www.aaq.net.au/shop/detail/autolift-243292-motorcycle-lift/
but they ended up supplying this one (wider and with side extensions) for the same price (around $AUS 1400).
http://www.aaq.net.au/shop/detail/autolift-243292ec/
Price has gone up a lot since. I liked these lifts because the lift height is more than most (980mm) so that when it is recessed in the floor the max height is still pretty high. It's made in China but is very solid (unlike some of the Chinese lifts) and has worked flawlessly so far.
-
I have 3 bikes and built a 24 x 12 workshop/garage for them with an in-floor bike lift. Build detailed here:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237146
Works well but would be nice to have a separate clean area for bike storage away from grinders and such.
Nice shop! I sure agree with you on having a separate room for welding, grinding and polishing, If I were to build a new shop that would be #1 on my list. The recessed lift is a great idea!
-
Thanks. I'm in Australia. I ordered this unit:
http://www.aaq.net.au/shop/detail/autolift-243292-motorcycle-lift/
but they ended up supplying this one (wider and with side extensions) for the same price (around $AUS 1400).
http://www.aaq.net.au/shop/detail/autolift-243292ec/
Price has gone up a lot since. I liked these lifts because the lift height is more than most (980mm) so that when it is recessed in the floor the max height is still pretty high. It's made in China but is very solid (unlike some of the Chinese lifts) and has worked flawlessly so far.
Yep, it's priced at $1,900 Aust. now. It's powered by both a foot pump and an air line?
-
I have 3 bikes and built a 24 x 12 workshop/garage for them with an in-floor bike lift. Build detailed here:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237146
Works well but would be nice to have a separate clean area for bike storage away from grinders and such.
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j365/fangitjoe/DSC_0162c_zpsbkkef2tl.jpg)
Nice!!!
I read your article.
I love you calling it an "Art Studio".....so city planners don't get their panties in a wad!!!!!
I will definitely steal that idea when I build an extension on my garage.
I am moving to the city in a couple of years and am pretty sure whatever garage we end up with will not be big enough.
I'm pretty sure they won't let me build a barn ,so ,"Art Studio" it is :grin:...Alan
-
Mine's 28x36, I came to that size by angle parking our 5 bikes and 2 quads so that I could get any bike out at any time without juggling. I was tired of shuffling bikes in and out of one side of our 2 car garage. This also allowed me the other half to work on a bike or change the oil in the car etc. When you're considering stationary tools, don't forget the tire change station. My No Mar tire changer has been the best investment I made in tools, has saved hundreds in tire changes and way more convenient than the 1 1/2 hour drive (one way) to the dealer. Only regret is not making it big enough to park our motorhome in. (I know first world problems).
(https://faithcottage.smugmug.com/Architecture/Shop/i-9hprCdc/0/L/IMG_4018-L.jpg)
(https://faithcottage.smugmug.com/Architecture/House-Osoyoos/i-HKq6L3n/0/L/shop-garage%20004-L.jpg)
I need to go take a new picture, my corner workbench (10' x 12'), rolling tool chest, and tire changer now sit in the corner where the raft is.
-
Nice to see the thread and giving me a lot of ideas.
I'm "downsizing" because the wife retired in her 40's to play tennis full time and I'm unwilling to work until I'm dead to support her "habit".
So I'm selling the big house and moving way down in size. I'd get a "Kazynski" cabin with a huge barn if I could but the wife will complain to much and there'd be to much "togetherness" for me.
(http://www.murderpedia.org/male.K/images/kaczynski_theodore/kacz_024.jpg)
A house the size of the one I bought 40 years ago would be good.
One of the things I've noticed here in California is that if you get a corner lot a 2nd Garage is allowed by the government building department. I'm thinking I could build something that is one car and a couple of bikes in size. If I added a toilet, sink, cot and couple of dog beds it would be my Sanctuary
-
Nice to see the thread and giving me a lot of ideas.
I'm "downsizing" because the wife retired in her 40's to play tennis full time and I'm unwilling to work until I'm dead to support her "habit".
So I'm selling the big house and moving way down in size. I'd get a "Kazynski" cabin with a huge barn if I could but the wife will complain to much and there'd be to much "togetherness" for me.
(http://www.murderpedia.org/male.K/images/kaczynski_theodore/kacz_024.jpg)
A house the size of the one I bought 40 years ago would be good.
One of the things I've noticed here in California is that if you get a corner lot a 2nd Garage is allowed by the government building department. I'm thinking I could build something that is one car and a couple of bikes in size. If I added a toilet, sink, cot and couple of dog beds it would be my Sanctuary
Kind of reminds me of the Unabomber from a few years ago.
-
Nice to see the thread and giving me a lot of ideas.
I'm "downsizing" because the wife retired in her 40's to play tennis full time and I'm unwilling to work until I'm dead to support her "habit".
So I'm selling the big house and moving way down in size. I'd get a "Kazynski" cabin with a huge barn if I could but the wife will complain to much and there'd be to much "togetherness" for me.****
"Plays tennis full time?" Don't overlook the many benefits to a physically fit wife. :wink:
Kind of reminds me of the Unabomber from a few years ago.
Think that's what the reference to "Kazynski" and the pic of the real thing meant.
If that Kazynski had had a wife who played tennis, things might have all turned out differently! :rolleyes:
Love garage threads. Folks have seen enough pix of mine, so I'll not post, but I do love seeing others' work (& play) spaces.
Bill
-
I built the house with a 3 stall garage. The base garage is 35' wide x 29' deep. The third stall is an additional 10.5' deep (16.5' wide)
The third stall deep end has 2 sides with work benches (wall mounted, at least 30-36" deep) with shelving below and above. The third wall is shelves.
The bike lift sits in the center of this area.
The 2 stall part holds (2) cars, deep freeze, some other storage and the like...
The 3rd stall part holds the bikes and riding lawn mower. There is enough room along the wall for blaster, parts washer, powder coat oven, etc... I don't feel that I am lacking for space unless the bike count grows to 5 or 6.
A stand alone building? two stalls wide by 20-30' deep if you can spare it. Put more space between the roll up door jams and outer wall to gain a lot of wall space for shelves/tools/benches.
I used 3/4" copper pipe to run air around the garage. It's rated for the pressure and has low loss for distance and fittings. I can throw up a lot of copper in a short period of time versus black pipe and the pressure drop is much lower than the plastic flex tube.
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x350/jtkirb/Bike%20pics/5057_1118331372767_107134_n_zps2a5d3541.jpg) (http://s1177.photobucket.com/user/jtkirb/media/Bike%20pics/5057_1118331372767_107134_n_zps2a5d3541.jpg.html)
-
Jbell, I appreciate the "making do w what you have" philosophy. For use of your space, you deserve an award in economy.
I am just a poor boy, though my story's seldom told..........
-
Yep, it's priced at $1,900 Aust. now. It's powered by both a foot pump and an air line?
It is a compressed air/hydraulic unit. The "foot pump" is actually a controller for the up and down motions and also houses the oil reservoir and hydraulic pump. I have mine mounted on the wall and operate it with my hand.
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j365/fangitjoe/DSC_0059_zps570eea9f.jpg)
-
It is a compressed air/hydraulic unit. The "foot pump" is actually a controller for the up and down motions and also houses the oil reservoir and hydraulic pump. I have mine mounted on the wall and operate it with my hand.
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j365/fangitjoe/DSC_0059_zps570eea9f.jpg)
Nice. It also looks like you have the hydraulic line cast into the floor as well.