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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: canuguzzi on August 07, 2015, 12:54:35 PM
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Just a discussion topic.
You see another rider quite a ways up the road, maybe as you crest a hill and they just vanish around the turn.
Do you try to catch up to them? What do you do when you catch up?
I've done it. The other rider was at the limits of line of sight. By the time I got close enough to see it was some gal on a K75, the usual form fitting leathers, fuel became an important consideration. She sure was in a hurry. Either that or she assumed someone was chasing her and their bike was faster. True on both accounts but harmless.
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I've done it. :bike-037: :bike-037: Problem is, I don't know what to do if I catch up. Usually just ride, or stop at a traffic control device behind 'em.
Spud
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If on a mountain road, yes. Follow for a bit without pressing, pass when they give indication to.
In town - nope
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Yup I do it both on my bicycle and motorcycle. Just in our DNA I guess. I do try to be polite and considerate if/when I catch and pass.
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I do it if I'm able to catch them and if I can I pass them. Lots of times it's someone on a BMW. :smiley: But I don't go really fast to pass them unless I was on my LM IV. That's why I got rid of it. Many times riders are fast on straights but not so much on twisties. That's where I like to pass them if I can. :smiley: If I'm on a long trip I just ignore their speed, unless it's in the twisties.
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I don't chase people and I don't like being chased. This is one reason I don't like group rides over 3-4 riders.
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Guilty more often than not (another reason for preferring slower bikes).
I have to admit that I especially enjoy it when it is a sportbike or something sporty from JAPanInc. and I'm on the Harley.
Have gotten my share of friendly waves after I've caught up, or occasionally even passed them with the Sporty.
One time on the Duc I caught and easily passed a JAPanInc. bike who was bombing the straights at maybe 80 but slowing WAY too much in the twisties (maybe down to 50-60 on curves the Sporty could even take at 70+). I tried to be polite and stayed in the throttle before pulling back in a maybe 20-30 over what he was doing when I passed (and that meant nearly triple-digit when I pulled in), but a few seconds later he passed me in my lane on my right (dick) at a good 40+ more than he'd been doing when I was catching up to him in the first place.
Oh well, guess he couldn't stand being passed by a wee-Italian bike. Actually, it would have been really funny to pull up to him and point out that it was only a 696 he'd been passed by in the first place, but after that he kept it in triple-digits on the straights so I didn't bother trying to stay with him or catch him again. I figured he was going to do something stupid.
A couple of times I noticed I was being chased and I wicked it up to stay ahead of them. One time on my wife's previous Harley (883) and a couple of JAPanInc. sportbikes fell back on that run. I stopped at the end of it and they both gave a friendly wave when they went by.
And best of all, the second day I owned the V7... chased by a BMW whom I pulled away from for a while, then waited for at a stop sign. He commented how much fun I was having and asked me how "old" the V7 was... I laughed and said "2 days".
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I don't chase people and I don't like being chased. This is one reason I don't like group rides over 3-4 riders.
If someone chases me and passes me, more power to them. :boozing:
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I only do it on a bicycle.
With the Griso I'm not interested in getting in over my head.
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Yep, I do it too. Most of the time it's a cruiser bike with the leather fringe flapping in the breeze and a stereo blaring from a bat wing fairing. Guilty as charged, I get a kick out of blowing thier doors on a 32 year old 850cc bike. That, or some slow poke in a Prius.
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Yes, sometimes, but only to see what kind of bike. It's a bit tricky on the Nuovo Falcone, doesn't happen very often and the answer usually is Schwinn. :cool:
Nick
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I am compelled by nature to leave no Harley unpassed :evil: :grin:
Dusty
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Not usually, I ride at my speed and enjoy the ride, if I happen to catch up to someone, then I may pass right away, or just alter my speed a tad and follow them for a bit. Same thing happens when someone catches me. Usually one of us leaves, giving a friendly wave on the pass.
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Oh yeah! Any bike in front of me is someone I want behind me. Immature, of course. But I think I'm hardwired to it. I instinctively twist the throttle when ever a bike comes in to view. Freeway or twisty backroad. Makes no difference.
I remember 30 years ago coming over the North Cascades Highway when I saw a BMW R100RS in front of me. I chased him down and passed him like he was standing still. I was pretty impressed with myself until I looked in the mirror and he was right on my wheel. Came to the next hair pin, executed a perfect downshift as I set up for the corner, only to have him pull out, pass me, and continue on without touching the brakes.
I had to accept the conclusion that I was only the second fastest person in the world. Actually, I think I have dropped quite a few spots since then.
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+2 on passing the HD riders. My first bike after I sold my 99 FXDX (HD) was a used 07 K1200GT, I got a kick out of going by a string of HDs on 4 lane Interstate doing strong triple digits (over 130). I doubt they even knew what went by.
Coming back from Alaska, I got behind a group of 3 bikes, (and I was in a group of 3 counting myself) we could see them miles ahead as they would go over a hill or big bend. We would not risk more than 130 kph, but we chased them for 2 or 3 days. They would stop and refuel and we would fly by, then while we were refueling, I would see them come by. One morning we were eating breakfast, and they came by. Passed them at next fuel stop. 950 KTM in the bunch had a rear flat, and we pulled over to see if we could help. One rider we knew, and recognized one of us before we even got off our bikes. Pretty funny.
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Only if my pace catches them. I'd never "wick it up" just to catch them.
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Unless traffic is so much, 90% of the time I will push to catch and ultiminlty pass the bike. Part of it is just seeing a bike makes me automatically competitive, but the other bigger part wants to see what kind of bike it is! If its to much trouble, or I know for sure its just another sheep of a HD out droning I won't bother, but if the roads somewhat open, and I'm on a bike that likes to roll, (which is always, I'm on a Guzzi for gods sake!) I'm gonna hunt him down! :cool:
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Yes, sometimes, but only to see what kind of bike. It's a bit tricky on the Nuovo Falcone, doesn't happen very often and the answer usually is Schwinn. :cool:
Nick
ROFL, yep. I also may ride a bit faster just to see what kind of bike it is. Otherwise, no. I am not a race qaulified rider by any means. The T5 suits me cause it is not fast and is still better than I am in the corners. So, almost any rider with a decent amount of skill can pass me in the twisties, and anyone on a decent bike can pass me on the straights.
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Uh, well.. duh. :smiley: Hawgs are dead meat. :whip2: In the last few years though, I've only been passed once on the Snake. Kind of surprised me to see him in my mirrors, but I pulled over and waved him on. He was on a Tuono, doing a road test for a mag. I was definitely out classed. :wink: We stopped at the Rock Store and sts. Nice guy. :thumb:
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Never. Saw somebody's sig. here: not anti-social, just pro-solitude. Always ride alone. Life is better that way, at least in my world.
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Means nothing to me. I ride my ride, they ride their ride. If they're obviously nubes, sure, I'll pass. But no compulsion to get around a bike making good speed, especially if I'd have to go out of my level of comfort to prove a 'point.'
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Yeah, it's about the comfort level. I'm not anti-social, with a few beers or without. Just happier riding alone.
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I think the point is, this is not a social thing. Not trying to be friends with anyone, join them, or stop and chat. Just want to see what kind of bike it is. If I do catch up to someone I will go out of my way to NOT stop where they are. I don't want to talk to them.
Unless, of course, it is another Guzzi. :) Then I will say hi.
OK, so sometimes at a parking lot or gas station there is a rare bike or one that I am interested in and I will ask them about it. But, don't want to ride with them or have lunch or anything. I have even been known to be rude to someone who stops to chat about my Guzzi. Not nice, I know.
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Never. Saw somebody's sig. here: not anti-social, just pro-solitude. Always ride alone. Life is better that way, at least in my world.
I ride alone quite a bit too. It's not easy to get together with others going the same way, same speed,same direction for the same distance. Much easier to just go. If you wait for others to go with you, you'll just do alot of waiting. A group of 3 or 4 is plenty. Most of the local riders I know just end up at a bar any-hoo. Not my style at all.
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The V65 Sabre was great for chasing since it was usually some hotdog that thought V65 meant 650cc and passed me to launch ahead. The old school 65 cubic inch engine would eat them alive in seconds. From a tiny spot in their mirror no doubt, to a flash that went past them.
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Guilty, but only on back roads, not in town. We get a lot of out-of-state riders in the mountains here, mostly on cruisers, who don't exactly demonstrate proficient riding skills. They're like rolling roadblocks. Blowing past them was especially satisfying on my V7C. On the F800GT, they have no chance.
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I am compelled by nature to leave no Harley unpassed :evil: :grin:
Dusty
I've been passed by Harleys. Several times.
Rich A
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Guilty! :rolleyes:
But ..... :bike-037: I have been chased a lot too!
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I've been passed by Harleys. Several times.
Rich A
If a Harley passes me it's because I let it. :laugh:
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Like some others said, I usually ride solo. I also like to start early and do long loops in less-travelled areas. So this is really not much of an issue for me.
I immediately slow down and move toward the shoulder if another rider is closing on me - to let them pass. I'd rather not have to think about whether the eager-passer is going to do something stupid.
As for slower riders ahead, sometimes I play a "constant speed" game - can I catch them by doing my best in the curves, but maintaining that same speed in the straights?
Here's what I do take great pleasure in: striking up a conversation with another rider about where we've both been so far - and dropping the "bomb" that I'm way over 100 miles from home on my morning loop. I'm more competitive on distance and saddle-time than pace. Anybody want to ride San Diego to San Francisco in two weeks? 550 miles of mostly twisties - 11 hours door to door - arrive in time for early dinner.
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Last week I was riding into Vancouver on the Trans Canada on my Norge, between Hope and Chilliwack, when some bikes appeared in my mirrors. I was in the slower lane, so stayed there to let them catch up to see what they were. About 40 Harleys went by, fast, loud, black and chrome, in tight formation. They were Hells Angels...so I decided it was probably wise not to try and show them what a Guzzi can do. Never seen real Hells Angels before. The riding discipline was rather impressive, actually, although if the first guy screwed up I think the whole lot would be in some trouble.
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Last week I was riding into Vancouver on the Trans Canada on my Norge, between Hope and Chilliwack, when some bikes appeared in my mirrors. I was in the slower lane, so stayed there to let them catch up to see what they were. About 40 Harleys went by, fast, loud, black and chrome, in tight formation. They were Hells Angels...so I decided it was probably wise not to try and show them what a Guzzi can do. Never seen real Hells Angels before. The riding discipline was rather impressive, actually, although if the first guy screwed up I think the whole lot would be in some trouble.
Did they have any women on the back?
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Not that I remember. I saw lots of patches, like every one was an Hells Angels full patch. Do the women wear full colors?
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The V65 Sabre was great for chasing since it was usually some hotdog that thought V65 meant 650cc and passed me to launch ahead. The old school 65 cubic inch engine would eat them alive in seconds. From a tiny spot in their mirror no doubt, to a flash that went past them.
Great bike for catching someone for sure. Mine had a high speed wobble/head shake in sweepers, that caused me to sell it. Plus I got too many tickets on it, two in one night is what pushed me over the edge to sell. I was too young and stupid to own that bike!
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If a Harley passes me it's because I let it. :laugh:
There are several HD riders around here who put the squids to shame. Not riding the lowered/chopped bikes. There are others who are not afraid of running over 100 on the straights either.
And we have the Bandidos around here. Don't see them very often.
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I've done it several times as it's more just to check the bikes out. Usually give them a friendly wave and then either fall back to my pace if they are going faster or pass them up if they are going slower than my desired pace.
If a faster paced rider comes up from behind, I have no issues letting the by with a wave. Like many here have said, I'm not looking to develop any relationships on the road.
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When the weather is nice on the weekends, the twisty roads around here are often clogged with lumbering cruisers. Though I'm hardly a hot-shot rider, I do like to ride at a fair clip through turns on these familiar routes. When I come up on a slow-moving bike, I try to be respectful, but I will take advantage of any opportunity to pass them, even on double yellows. Most seem to have no problem with being passed. Rarely, when I come up on a crawling pod in formation, one or more of the riders will try to block attempts to pass.
A flip-side story: I was once riding one of my old VFR's on the Tail-of-the Dragon, though not pushing it to the max, was moving along pretty well (for me, anyway); in my mirrors saw a LARGE bike creeping up on me. Admittedly, I didn't want to get passed by this barge, so I wicked it up a bit, but to no avail; the guy eventually caught up and passed me; he was on a Goldwing. When I reached the resort at the end of the Dragon, I told a few riders about the experience. They told me the Goldwing rider is a regular who gets his kicks humiliating sport bike riders; he records his conquests.
Jon
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Generally not, but on occasion, guilty as charged. A couple of times I've felt "compelled" to respond, mostly when riding my Beeza R3.
Once when cruising along with a passenger on my way to Christchurch when with a cloud of smoke and a ring-ding-ding we were passed by a Kawasaki Mach3. (then touted as the fastest bike in the world) I wasn't going to take any notice but the guy looked back to see if I was coming. Well... that did it. Caught him like a dose of salts.
A year or 4 later it was another Kawasaki. A Z900 this time, that also ranked mightily in it's adverts. Contented myself with sitting on his tail. Met the guy on the ferry that night in the bar. he was complaining bitterly about the old BSA he couldn't get away from. (snicker)
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Not that I remember. I saw lots of patches, like every one was an Hells Angels full patch. Do the women wear full colors?
Lol, no...
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I work in a shop in my house, and live in a very rural area, so I'm always open to the rare opportunity of meeting a fellow local rider. I've met a couple really decent guys by getting into conversations with them at stops. One was a real surprise, because I had worked with him 25 years before, and had gotten together with him back then a few times for a beer or a boat ride. We had hung out a bit at the 2013 Bull City Rumble, Saturday afternoon, and as I was leaving, he told me his full name, which I recognized. Funny that 25 years of aging and fading memory had kept us from figuring out we knew each other for most of the afternoon. We've visited each other and ridden together quite a few times since then.
I'll speed up a little to catch up to a rider in front of me, but not try to pass unless he's going under the speed limit. If we happen to meet at a traffic light or other stop, I'll say hi. Usually it's just a casual greeting and departure, but once in a while I meet a new friend.
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Had to give up my racing career cause of all the new squirts kept catching up and passing me! Its so embarassing. :embarrassed:
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Interesting topic, just back from a funeral and need some distraction.
Yep done the caught up more than once. Sometimes intentional, sometimes not. If someone wants to pass me, go ahead. I have had a few sport bikes playing Moto GP on our FTM roads pass me on sweeper curves. I was doing 60, they were over 100: insane given the side traffic into these locations.
Been passed by the various patch wearing clubs here especially on the way down to Galveston. I keep my distance and they tend to ride in excellent formation, but very fast.
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As far as public roads go, I like riding alone and don't chase people down on purpose these days. If I come up on a slow rider I'll pass but that's about it. I wasn't always of this mindset. A few years back I started getting brief thoughts of my kids when I'd be leaned over in a corner and it changed my mindset about riding. I'm no saftey weenie, if you want to have a run at somone, by all means go for it and I think we all see speed limit signs as a suggestion at times. Hell, we ride motorcycles, there's a lot of risk just getting out there in text crazy modern society. I think of things I did in my younger years sometimes and wince.....I got very luck a number of times.
I think a lot of people assume that if you catch and pass somone, the person you passed was trying to maintain their speed at peak ability. Ive come to belive that usually they're just riding , see you coming and wave as you pass. That's what I do. I've been passed by folks I know I could re catch and put distance on but the urge just left me a while back. I love a smooth solo ride in the twisties when the shifts are coming just right, the lines are smooth and a good solid clip is being maintained. I will say this though, I've been itching to build a track bike and go play on closed circuits, not because I think I'm fast but because I'd love to go as fast as I can without worrying about all the standard road hazards. The chase urge is still there for me, just not on the road.
On the 1%ers, I used to get passed by small groups of Mongols on the I-405 at times on my commute to and from LA back when I was still working up that way. Didnt see them often but those guys roll tight and fast, much more so than the SoCal squid clubs you see doing mile long wheelies on the freeway and basically stunting their way down the road. I give all groups a wide berth. One guy messes up and I don't want to be just another domino.
I definitely have the catch 'em instinct, I'm just holding it down these days. I think I need to start doing track days.
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Guilty more often than not (another reason for preferring slower bikes).
I have to admit that I especially enjoy it when it is a sportbike or something sporty from JAPanInc. and I'm on the Harley.
Have gotten my share of friendly waves after I've caught up, or occasionally even passed them with the Sporty.
One time on the Duc I caught and easily passed a JAPanInc. bike who was bombing the straights at maybe 80 but slowing WAY too much in the twisties (maybe down to 50-60 on curves the Sporty could even take at 70+). I tried to be polite and stayed in the throttle before pulling back in a maybe 20-30 over what he was doing when I passed (and that meant nearly triple-digit when I pulled in), but a few seconds later he passed me in my lane on my right (dick) at a good 40+ more than he'd been doing when I was catching up to him in the first place.
Oh well, guess he couldn't stand being passed by a wee-Italian bike. Actually, it would have been really funny to pull up to him and point out that it was only a 696 he'd been passed by in the first place, but after that he kept it in triple-digits on the straights so I didn't bother trying to stay with him or catch him again. I figured he was going to do something stupid.
A couple of times I noticed I was being chased and I wicked it up to stay ahead of them. One time on my wife's previous Harley (883) and a couple of JAPanInc. sportbikes fell back on that run. I stopped at the end of it and they both gave a friendly wave when they went by.
And best of all, the second day I owned the V7... chased by a BMW whom I pulled away from for a while, then waited for at a stop sign. He commented how much fun I was having and asked me how "old" the V7 was... I laughed and said "2 days".
Wow, your abilities to pass Sportbikes with riders of unknown skill is so impressive you should start a MotoGP career!
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I am compelled by nature to leave no Harley unpassed :evil: :grin:
Dusty
Hahaha , love your thinking Dusty , me too ! :bow:
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When you pass 'em, do you get to say "EAT MY DUST! "? :grin:
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Wow, your abilities to pass Sportbikes with riders of unknown skill is so impressive you should start a MotoGP career!
Nice to know some things never change... I.E. you're still a jerk to people for no reason.
OBVIOUSLY it's a simple case of the riders not being as capable as their bikes.
I've made no secret on this board that I've been handily out ridden by less capable machines too. Like Lauri on an overloaded Quota disappearing from my Breva on tight WV mountain switchbacks.
My point was, probably always has been, that on the street it's usually the rider and not the bike. But I'm not under any illusion that I'll ever be a racer. Other than playing within the bounds I find reasonable, I have no interest in it.
Still the average street bike rider is generally unimpressive.
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Still the average street bike rider is generally unimpressive.
Yep , it's not that I am fast , everyone else is just so slow :grin:
Dusty
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I am not fast.
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Just half-fast most of the time.
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Me neither.
Not fast, and just don't care to race on the streets.
Got all of that out of my system when I was a teenager. Miracle I survived.
But I beat Bobby Unser Jr. in Chama, NM, 1971, on the oval on the Blizzard 797. He was pissed.
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Nice to know some things never change... I.E. you're still a jerk to people for no reason.
OBVIOUSLY it's a simple case of the riders not being as capable as their bikes.
I've made no secret on this board that I've been handily out ridden by less capable machines too. Like Lauri on an overloaded Quota disappearing from my Breva on tight WV mountain switchbacks.
My point was, probably always has been, that on the street it's usually the rider and not the bike. But I'm not under any illusion that I'll ever be a racer. Other than playing within the bounds I find reasonable, I have no interest in it.
Still the average street bike rider is generally unimpressive.
It's only obvious now that it was called out. Anyone reading it would see it as bravado as in ( see how great a rider I am) because I am faster than these Sportbikes. I do agree with your last two paragraphs.
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Sorry, I assumed I was talking primarily to friends whom I've known on this board for about a decade. They've likely heard half of the stories, including the one about Lauri and the Quota.
So I didn't feel the need to walk em through the "on the street I generally feel it's the rider, not the bike" and "there are tons of inexperienced riders" mantras before recounting some of the times I recall chasing or being chased as I think we've covered that ground again and again.
Not to mention I'm the guy who always says it's more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow, and feels he just doesn't need 100-200 hp bikes in the stable because he doesn't need to ride that fast.
So I'm sorry if I assumed anyone who ever read my posts (and come, I know you have many times over the years) would find it clear I don't think I'm a racer or have any desire to be.
But that doesn't mean I don't enjoy picking off the low hanging fruit.
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I'm usually riding alone or with another friend- never had the pack mindset.
I like a somewhat spirited clip, so I'll get on around someone if my pace is higher.
I'm happy to wave thru anyone who's feeling the need to join my ride. If they're close enough to follow, then I'll make it easy for them to lead.
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It's only obvious now that it was called out. Anyone reading it would see it as bravado as in ( see how great a rider I am) because I am faster than these Sportbikes. I do agree with your last two paragraphs.
Whats obvious is that you're a trolling douche, and someone that adds nothing to this discussion board but negativity. For no reason, you're once again pissing on someone that actually regularly contributes constructive content. Stay classy. :rolleyes:
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If I catch up with someone riding slower than I am, damn right I'm passing them as long as I can do it in a safe manner. Nothing personal. I expect the same from anyone who catches me. Uhhhh......that's just driving. No different than a 4 wheeler. It's a little im-mature to get pissed about traffic flow isn't it?
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If I catch up with someone riding slower than I am, damn right I'm passing them as long as I can do it in a safe manner. Nothing personal. I expect the same from anyone who catches me. Uhhhh......that's just driving. No different than a 4 wheeler. It's a little im-mature to get pissed about traffic flow isn't it?
exactly - occasionally there's someone that wants to play cat & mouse. I don't have any interest. Likewise in a car- someone comes hauling ass out of the background only to get on your bumper. Take the lead for crying out loud - nobody needs you to be their proctologist. Or maybe they're just born to follow.
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Got passed by a 17 year old Texan at Oak Hill raceway in Henderson TX . In fact , he passed me and everyone else several times during practice , dang punk kid , making us all look slow , sliding both ends of a GS Suzuki , all elbows , knees, and huevos . Seems like his name was Bob , or Joe ,or oh ... yeah ... Kevin , that was his name . Kind of a goofy looking kid , kinky hair , lop sided grin . Nice young fella though , probably ended up doing well :laugh:
Dusty
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Got passed by a 17 year old Texan at Oak Hill raceway in Henderson TX . In fact , he passed me and everyone else several times during practice , dang punk kid , making us all look slow , sliding both ends of a GS Suzuki , all elbows , knees, and huevos . Seems like his name was Bob , or Joe ,or oh ... yeah ... Kevin , that was his name . Kind of a goofy looking kid , kinky hair , lop sided grin . Nice young fella though , probably ended up doing well :laugh:
Dusty
sure, next you'll be saying you're on the track with a gonna-be world champ.....I am on to your stories.
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oh, you were on the same track but not racing him. :tongue:
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A MARGINALLY RELEVANT CAUTIONARY TALE
Recently I was heading north bagged and loaded through the Mary Valley to avoid the slab.
I was drifting through some fast sweepers sitting on the speed limit (100kph) when I glimpsed another bike behind me and gaining. HOW DARE HE!!!
My initial impulse was to strangle the throttle but I then thought, I have a long day ahead so best take it easy.
The motorcycle cop waved to me as he passed. :thumb:
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A MARGINALLY RELEVANT CAUTIONARY TALE
Recently I was heading north bagged and loaded through the Mary Valley to avoid the slab.
I was drifting through some fast sweepers sitting on the speed limit (100kph) when I glimpsed another bike behind me and gaining. HOW DARE HE!!!
My initial impulse was to strangle the throttle but I then thought, I have a long day ahead so best take it easy.
The motorcycle cop waved to me as he passed. :thumb:
Very relevant. :thumb:
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Sorry, I assumed I was talking primarily to friends whom I've known on this board for about a decade. They've likely heard half of the stories, including the one about Lauri and the Quota.
So I'm sorry if I assumed anyone who ever read my posts (and come, I know you have many times over the years) would find it clear I don't think I'm a racer or have any desire to be.
But that doesn't mean I don't enjoy picking off the low hanging fruit.
I can`t possibly remember your life story here, but i do remember you like to remind people what the first three letters of ASSume are , your own advice is very good :grin:
I can get on with picking off low hanging fruit, just not making it sound as if your MotoGP material because of passing a rider of unknown skill on on a much faster bike with a 696 or a girls Sportster.
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I can`t possibly remember your life story here, but i do remember you like to remind people what the first three letters of ASSume are , your own advice is very good :grin:
I can get on with picking off low hanging fruit, just not making it sound as if your MotoGP material because of passing a rider of unknown skill on on a much faster bike with a 696 or a girls Sportster.
I think you read what you want to and won't let it go when you're told it's something else.
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I think you read what you want to and won't let it go when you're told it's something else.
Is that another ASSumption? :wink:
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Some of youse fast guys are natural born hunters and chasers. Cant help it.
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Dam tailgaters! :boxing:
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Thats sounds like me too, Dusty!
The Racing Bladders! :laugh:
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Keep your boots dry please!
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Is that another ASSumption? :wink:
Nope, that's a simple observation. I'm sure I'm not alone in making it. :kiss:
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Nope, that's a simple observation. I'm sure I'm not alone in making it. :kiss:
No, you're not alone.