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Title: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: cloudbase on August 09, 2015, 04:19:13 PM
Source: KOTA TV

STURGIS, S.D. - A motorcyclist was killed Saturday afternoon on Highway 79, seven miles north of Sturgis, making him the 13th fatality in the deadliest rally on record.

With the official end of the 75th rally, the highway patrol data shows that the number of crashes (injury and non injury) are double what they were last year; and deaths are three times higher than 2014.

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http://www.kotatv.com/sturgis-motorcycle-rally/Sturgis-Rally-ends-as-one-of-the-biggest-and-deadliest/34621534 (http://www.kotatv.com/sturgis-motorcycle-rally/Sturgis-Rally-ends-as-one-of-the-biggest-and-deadliest/34621534)
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: mtiberio on August 09, 2015, 04:25:26 PM
Almost went
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on August 09, 2015, 04:50:54 PM
You'd have to drag me kicking and screaming.
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: Zoom Zoom on August 09, 2015, 04:58:06 PM
It IS a beautiful area. I prefer to visit it when it is NOT a parking lot!

John Henry
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: Guzzistajohn on August 09, 2015, 05:05:12 PM
I'd love to go up there. But you couldn't pay me to go during that CF.
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: fotoguzzi on August 09, 2015, 05:36:37 PM
cash seized $28,735.. wow, wonder how that gets spent..
thx for posting the stats.
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on August 09, 2015, 05:41:45 PM
I'd love to go up there. But you couldn't pay me to go during that CF.

Really?? Its literally the only thing going on there??  I guess Wall drug is worth a stop on the was to or from the Badlands NP but there's not much of anything else.


I can't imagine attending...  a 12-14hrs minimum ride on dead flat straight roads to get to a Harley Rally in the middle of nowhere.. NOPE
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: swalker on August 09, 2015, 05:59:14 PM
   I've been to Sturgis, but not for their party. Enjoyed the area, but have no business being there during stupid week. My thoughts.
Walker
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: Kent in Upstate NY on August 09, 2015, 06:01:44 PM
I went to Sturgis in '92. Stayed at Glencoe Campground and it was quite nice. Buffalo Chip is a zoo full of gay pirates and patch holders.
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: blackcat on August 09, 2015, 06:24:50 PM
What's a sturgis?
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: PeteS on August 09, 2015, 06:25:50 PM
Black Hills are worth the ride. We passed within ten miles of Sturgis last Sunday on our way to the  west coast. I thought about stopping but 92 degree temps and stories of  traffic stopped for hours made the decision to skip it easy. Many thousands of bikes though on all the roads for 500 miles in all directions. Decent rooms were going for 250-350 a night until we got well past Yellowstone.
Wait till September if you plan to visit the area.

Pete
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: lucydad on August 09, 2015, 06:33:05 PM
It is an incredible area, spent a lot of time there when living in Casper, WY. 

Zero interest in big Rallys.  Galveston is coming up in October, it is a zoo, and I avoid the coast that weekend.

Too bad on the deaths, violence, and drugs and such.  Stupid is as stupid does.
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: twowheeladdict on August 09, 2015, 06:47:27 PM
A ride through Custer State Park and the Needles Highway are also things to do.
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb188/twowheeladdict/Versys/2012%20Epic%20Adventure/640x480005CusterStatePark.jpg)

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb188/twowheeladdict/Versys/2012%20Epic%20Adventure/640x480001NeedlesHwy.jpg)
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: LongRanger on August 09, 2015, 08:46:26 PM
 :1: Great roads and great riding out there, but best avoided during the rally if you want to have a curve to yourself. Sorry to hear about the fatalities.
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: Two Checks on August 09, 2015, 09:07:47 PM
Stands to reason there were more casualties the event was twice as long this year.
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: 1Sourdough on August 09, 2015, 09:43:54 PM
Black Hills are worth the ride. We passed within ten miles of Sturgis last Sunday on our way to the  west coast. I thought about stopping but 92 degree temps and stories of  traffic stopped for hours made the decision to skip it easy. Many thousands of bikes though on all the roads for 500 miles in all directions. Decent rooms were going for 250-350 a night until we got well past Yellowstone.
Wait till September if you plan to visit the area.

Pete
A place to stay is much worse out that way than the Sturgis traffic used to make it.  The oilfield workers take up lots of lodging.  I stopped in Billings last summer and paid right at $50 for a tent space.  When I got back from supper I walked around the campground a little and was amazed how many oilfield service trucks were parked at the trailer spaces.  Someone told me lots of folks were driving several hours each way to work because there was nothing at all closer than Billings. 

With the right mind-set there is much of interest to do and to see in the Black Hills.  Once we slowed down from 'big-city hectic speed' my wife and I even began to find interesting and beautiful things to see in Iowa.  Took awhile but it's there!
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: ken farr on August 09, 2015, 10:19:11 PM
Are those stats. just for the Rally time frame?

If so, holy shite!!!


kjf
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: Yeahoo Whoyah on August 09, 2015, 11:39:59 PM
As usual, I've got friends who went this year, hope they are OK. 
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: LowRyter on August 10, 2015, 01:02:27 AM
I heard it was really packed this year.  I've been there twice, once to the Rally and one not.
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: leafman60 on August 10, 2015, 07:11:48 AM
I hate to hear of all the deaths. A few years ago, H-D mega-dealer Bruce Rossmeyer was killed riding at the Sturgis rally.

Never been to the Sturgis thing.

Although I like and ride H-D, I have little in common with that element of The Faithful.

I'm sure a lot of good people are there, though.  It's just not the sort of thing that attracts me to ride as far as I would have to ride across some hot-ass terrain.

I do go to Daytona Bike Week but I'm not hanging out with the typical crowd attracted there. I'm usually found with the likes of LowRyter, PYoung and the gang eating awesome seafood at Martin's !
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: segesta on August 10, 2015, 08:36:13 AM
1. "Vehicles seized"--nice way for the local police to make some money.
2. If I wanted to be surrounded by really old, well to do white guys who desperately yearn for the past, I'd attend a Bernie Sanders rally.  :tongue:

But the stats don't adjust for the larger number of attendees this year. Perhaps the "deaths per capita" is the same as ever.
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: canuck750 on August 10, 2015, 09:00:59 AM
I went the week after once. Beautiful scenery

I have no interest in the Gay Pirate / White Trash festival.
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: lorazepam on August 10, 2015, 09:06:55 AM
I personally love the Black hills. One of the most beautiful places in the country, the scenery rivals any place in the US. That said, I wouldn't try to ride there during the shit show at sturgis, too many idiots and drunks for me.
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: jumpmaster on August 10, 2015, 10:10:32 AM
Really?? Its literally the only thing going on there??  I guess Wall drug is worth a stop on the was to or from the Badlands NP but there's not much of anything else.


I can't imagine attending...  a 12-14hrs minimum ride on dead flat straight roads to get to a Harley Rally in the middle of nowhere.. NOPE

Ditto to most of the comments, both positive & negative.  IMO, every dedicated motorcyclist should go to/ride thru one of these events (Sturgis, Daytona Bike Week, Myrtle Beach, Americade, etc.) once just to see what all the fuss is about - it took me about an hour to decide it wasn't something I wanted to do again, but others may feel differently.  As one person said, there are a lot of places & things to do both in the area and on the way (even from the east) that make the "boring" stretches of highway worth the trip, if you have the time to slow down a bit & get off the interstates.  A trick I learned about Sturgis was to go to the area about a week or so before the rally & stay up thru the 1st day, then move on.  You can find places that haven't jacked up their prices yet, & if you go to the rally site a day or 2 before it officially opens you can see what its all about without most of the crowds & stupidity having arrived yet.
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: paper on August 10, 2015, 10:38:46 AM
What's a sturgis?

(https://www2.viu.ca/sturgeon/images/sturgeon1.jpg)

They're delicious smoked.. If you can find papers big enough.. :thumb:

Here's from the only time I've been there.. Day after the rally.. HD dealership contained one HD and our two BMW's.. We left shortly thereafter..

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h276/djpagel/USA%20Grand%20Tour/x2Sturgis.jpg)
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: canuguzzi on August 10, 2015, 10:41:33 AM
Like a lot of these things, they devolve into more chaos than civil gatherings. The burning man of motorcycling. There are some good points, they would be on the way back home.
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: JeffOlson on August 10, 2015, 11:14:50 AM
I wonder if Tobias Funke was there...

(http://i0.wp.com/wherecouldibenow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/tobias_pirate1.jpg)
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on August 10, 2015, 11:16:47 AM

2. If I wanted to be surrounded by really old, well to do white guys who desperately yearn for the past, I'd attend a Bernie Sanders rally.  :tongue:



Bernie supporters have better weed than the pirates, thats for sure!  :police:
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: kballowe on August 10, 2015, 12:41:05 PM
It's a big party.  Lots of motorcycles and lots of people.

I went ONCE during bike week.  What was I thinking?

Have been there probably ten times - nine of them at least three weeks before or after the scheduled rally.

Ran into Michael at the Full Throttle Saloon
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Rapid City is only about 950 from my house, so I went with a naked bike.  No windshield or saddlebags.  A roll on the front and a bag on a fender rack.
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I agree that the scenery is nice and it's a good ride. 
Just..... NOT with thousands of other people.
Of course, the same could be said for just about any other large gathering of people.
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I am seriously surprised that the numbers are not larger - given the amount of tourists, motorcycles, alcohol, and drugs.
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Me?  I'll continue to stay completely away from those types of events and keep to the more obscure two lane roads.
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Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: segesta on August 10, 2015, 04:04:47 PM
I wonder if Tobias Funke was there...

(http://i0.wp.com/wherecouldibenow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/tobias_pirate1.jpg)

"I was a professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world's first 'analrapist.'"

The first two seasons of Arrested Development were hilarious.
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: JeffOlson on August 10, 2015, 04:09:40 PM
^  :thumb:
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: Lannis on August 10, 2015, 06:25:38 PM
Ditto to most of the comments, both positive & negative.  IMO, every dedicated motorcyclist should go to/ride thru one of these events (Sturgis, Daytona Bike Week, Myrtle Beach, Americade, etc.) once just to see what all the fuss is about - it took me about an hour to decide it wasn't something I wanted to do again, but others may feel differently. 

I disagree.   I don't see what Sturgis has to do with a "dedicated motorcyclist" or even "motorcycles".   

It's like "I think every human should have a body part pierced just to see what it's like ....." or "I think every person with brain cells to destroy should snort cocaine just once to see what it's like".

To me, it's the antithesis of everything I enjoy about motorcycling, and I don't need to "go there" in the middle of 500,000 show-offs, drunks, and idiots to find out more .....

Lannis
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: Texas Turnip on August 10, 2015, 09:37:59 PM
Went to Sturgis in '72, Daytona twice and NH once. I'd kiss the famous actress Vanessa del Rio on the lips before you could drag me back to any of those jungles.

Glad I went when I was younger. Now, no way.
Tex
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: jumpmaster on August 10, 2015, 11:48:26 PM
I disagree.   I don't see what Sturgis has to do with a "dedicated motorcyclist" or even "motorcycles".   

To me, it's the antithesis of everything I enjoy about motorcycling, and I don't need to "go there" in the middle of 500,000 show-offs, drunks, and idiots to find out more .....



Like I said, "others may disagree..."  However, like it or not, as motorcyclists we are often judged by the stereotypes of these events promoted by the media, the event organizers & even many of the participants themselves.  From the little I've observed with my own eyes rather than reading about or hearing "bench racing" stories from others about a few different events of this type, I found that the stereotypes are somewhat overblown - but we, as a group, are still judged by the public at large to be part of this "culture" (I use the term VERY loosely) & we ought to be able to deal with it from personal experience ourselves.  Hence, my opinion that seeing for oneself, if even only for a few hours at the front or back end of one of these events, serves a useful purpose in educating oneself & then being able to speak with a little more authority when the rabid "all bikers are idiots" crowd start pontificating at your local pool party or opera event  :grin:

Having said all that, I repeat that once (well, once each at several different events) was enough for me to see that they follow pretty much the same pattern or at least very similar patterns & that this pattern doesn't interest me as entertainment, even for a day.  Harley-centric events seem to attract more posers & idiots per capita than other events I'm familiar with, but I'd have to say I've met examples of both of those categories at Goldwing, BMW & Norton events over the years, too.  I haven't been a Guzzi owner long enough to meet a lot of Guzziistas & haven't been to any rallys, but so far I haven't met any posers or idiots yet - still have something to look forward to?
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: Vasco DG on August 11, 2015, 01:58:20 AM
I loved the Dakotas, shit, I loved Nebraska! I think I'd rather gargle nitric acid than go to the Piratefest.

Rapid City is a lovely little university town full of young people just being young and enjoying themselves. I'm sure it has its dark side too but I didn't see it. I really enjoyed Vermillion too, another small university town. I still have a T-shirt from Carney's Bar, 'World Famous' it proudly claims! Well? Yes, yes it is, and that is splendid!

Pete
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: jumpmaster on August 11, 2015, 06:54:56 AM
Jumpy , it is the Whizzer rallies where the real crazies are  :bike-037:

  Dusty

Dang it!  I knew I should have gone to the local Whizzer rally this year!

By the way, I like your modification of my screen name.  After going to 2 wars and several other "hazardous duty areas" over my career, it perfectly sums up the state of my nerves when I'm around big crowds &/or loud noises.
Title: Re: Deadly Year at Sturgis
Post by: flip on August 11, 2015, 07:40:01 AM
I disagree.   I don't see what Sturgis has to do with a "dedicated motorcyclist" or even "motorcycles".   

It's like "I think every human should have a body part pierced just to see what it's like ....." or "I think every person with brain cells to destroy should snort cocaine just once to see what it's like".

To me, it's the antithesis of everything I enjoy about motorcycling, and I don't need to "go there" in the middle of 500,000 show-offs, drunks, and idiots to find out more .....

Lannis

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