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Title: Nice Buldge!!!
Post by: kris on August 25, 2015, 06:41:22 PM
Noticed this after we had some hot weather.  Thought it might have been from pressure build up in the tank so I opened the tank and got just a little pressure relief.  Called the local dealer, Newport Italian and talked to Rey.  He had me take a few photos and by the next day got approval from Piaggio to replace the tank.  5 to 7 weeks before the new tank arrives, as long as I can ride it's no biggie.  This is on a 2014 Norge.  Anyone know if they've done anything to prevent this from happening again?

Thanks, Kris

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Title: Re: Nice Buldge!!!
Post by: cruzziguzzi on August 25, 2015, 06:51:20 PM
Hell, I thought the tape might have fallen off my computer's camera.

You're talking about the bad buldge... sucks!

Todd.
Title: Re: Nice Buldge!!!
Post by: guzzied on August 25, 2015, 07:00:49 PM
Nice One!

Whoa, I have a 2014 Norge too, no bulge yet on mine, but it just has 950 miles on it. Where are you located, could be from alcohol content in the fuel?

Mike
Title: Re: Nice Buldge!!!
Post by: Kentktk on August 25, 2015, 07:11:40 PM

You're talking about the bad buldge... sucks!


Spelling please.
bulge |bəlj|
noun
a rounded swelling or protuberance that distorts a flat surface.
• (especially in a military context) a piece of land that projects outward from an otherwise regular line: the advance created an eastward-facing bulge in the line.
• [ in sing. ] informal a temporary unusual increase in number or size: a bulge in the birth rate.
verb [ no obj. ]
swell or protrude to an unnatural or incongruous extent: the veins in his neck bulged | (as adj. bulging) : he stared with bulging eyes.
• be full of and distended with: a briefcase bulging with documents.
DERIVATIVES
Title: Re: Nice Buldge!!!
Post by: cruzziguzzi on August 25, 2015, 07:34:13 PM
Spelling please.
bulge |bəlj|
noun
a rounded swelling or protuberance that distorts a flat surface.
� (especially in a military context) a piece of land that projects outward from an otherwise regular line: the advance created an eastward-facing bulge in the line.
� [ in sing. ] informal a temporary unusual increase in number or size: a bulge in the birth rate.
verb [ no obj. ]
swell or protrude to an unnatural or incongruous extent: the veins in his neck bulged | (as adj. bulging) : he stared with bulging eyes.
� be full of and distended with: a briefcase bulging with documents.
DERIVATIVES

Thanks professor - I was mimicking the OP. "Re: Nice Buldge!!!"

Todd.
Title: Re: Nice Buldge!!!
Post by: Kent in Upstate NY on August 25, 2015, 07:40:12 PM
And, a word to the wise, when someone says, "nice bulge/buldge', they are usually referring to to some guy's "package" :evil:
Title: Re: Nice Buldge!!!
Post by: ohiorider on August 25, 2015, 07:40:38 PM
Noticed this after we had some hot weather.  Thought it might have been from pressure build up in the tank so I opened the tank and got just a little pressure relief.  Called the local dealer, Newport Italian and talked to Rey.  He had me take a few photos and by the next day got approval from Piaggio to replace the tank.  5 to 7 weeks before the new tank arrives, as long as I can ride it's no biggie.  This is on a 2014 Norge.  Anyone know if they've done anything to prevent this from happening again?

Thanks, Kris

https://www.flickr.com/photos/72433025@N02/20857344376/in/dateposted-public/
Had similar symptoms on a 2008 1200 Sport.  Amazingly, the bulges and bumps along both sides of the fuel tank began vanishing (for the most part) once I converted the fuel tank venting system from the USA-only style to the rest-of-the-world style.  Commonly known as a canisterectomy on Guzzi websites.

Before the new tank is installed, I would have your dealer make certain that the USA venting system is working, ie, no crimped vent hoses, vent valve with too high relief pressure, etc, or you may be in for the same experience with the new tank.
Title: Re: Nice Buldge!!!
Post by: Bill Hagan on August 25, 2015, 07:43:42 PM


However spelled, that's weird.

Have had my own ethanol distortions, and know of others, but have not seen anything like that!

Glad Piaggio did the right thing.

Bill


Title: Re: Nice Buldge!!!
Post by: LowRyter on August 25, 2015, 07:54:40 PM
Clearly a defect.  Hope the new tank gets delivered soon.   :whip2:

Perhaps alcohol based additives have contributed to the bulge over my belt?   :boozing:
Title: Re: Nice Buldge!!!
Post by: toma nova on August 25, 2015, 07:59:26 PM

Anyone know if they've done anything to prevent this from happening again?


Like Bob said, check the tip over valve, check valve, and all the tubing for the charcoal canister.  Also, ensure the canister itself is working correctly.  The tank should not have any pressure built up when sitting in the sun.

Or, do the permanent fix which is to vent the tank directly to atmosphere.  By removing the canister, you'll gain enough room under the rear seat to hold a 12V pump and tire patch kit.

Title: Re: Nice Buldge!!!
Post by: fotoguzzi on August 25, 2015, 08:48:59 PM
And, a word to the wise, when someone says, "nice bulge/buldge', they are usually referring to to some guy's "package" :evil:
I thought you might have gotten a new  Sig Sauer SP2022
Title: Re: Nice Buldge!!!
Post by: Penderic on August 25, 2015, 09:15:00 PM
They are all very nice!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/BudgieQuintet_zps5hnk2vqq.jpg)
 :wink:
Title: Re: Nice Buldge!!!
Post by: Cam3512 on August 25, 2015, 09:30:58 PM
They are all very nice!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/BudgieQuintet_zps5hnk2vqq.jpg)
 :wink:

Come on man, you can do better than that!
Title: Re: Nice Buldge!!!
Post by: oldbike54 on August 25, 2015, 11:47:37 PM
They are all very nice!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/BudgieQuintet_zps5hnk2vqq.jpg)
 :wink:

 Battle of the budgies  :embarrassed: Sorry Cam , Pennie isn't giving me anything to work with  :laugh:

  Dusty
Title: Re: Nice Buldge!!!
Post by: Penderic on August 26, 2015, 12:19:03 AM
Please! Behave!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/humps_zpsci5cxlny.jpg)
 :shocked:
Title: Re: Nice Buldge!!!
Post by: kris on August 26, 2015, 10:09:43 AM
Nice One!

Whoa, I have a 2014 Norge too, no bulge yet on mine, but it just has 950 miles on it. Where are you located, could be from alcohol content in the fuel?

Mike

I'm in southern California, not sure we have alcohol or ethanol in our gas.
Title: Re: Nice Buldge!!!
Post by: kris on August 26, 2015, 10:13:16 AM
Had similar symptoms on a 2008 1200 Sport.  Amazingly, the bulges and bumps along both sides of the fuel tank began vanishing (for the most part) once I converted the fuel tank venting system from the USA-only style to the rest-of-the-world style.  Commonly known as a canisterectomy on Guzzi websites.

Before the new tank is installed, I would have your dealer make certain that the USA venting system is working, ie, no crimped vent hoses, vent valve with too high relief pressure, etc, or you may be in for the same experience with the new tank.

Yes, I had planned on having them check things over to hopefully prevent it from happening again.  I had planned on doing a canisterectomy, but haven't had time to take the tank off and get to it.

Was also worried about voiding any warranty.