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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Crusty on September 02, 2015, 07:07:24 AM
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Mexican Weather Forecast
Last night we went out for dinner. I had Cincinnati Style Chili, which is nothing like what everybody in the rest of the country thinks Chili is. What everybody outside this area calls chili is known as Texas Chili here. Here, there are restaurants dedicated to Cincinnati Style Chili. The two bigger chains are Skyline Chili and Gold Star Chili, and both have numerous locations around the area. There are a number of smaller, non chain restaurants as well, though many of them serve other items as well. We went to a “Mom and Pop” local place that served other items, as well. David wanted a breakfast. He got Ham and eggs, a mountain of home fries and toast, while Jack got a double decker sandwich that was so thick, he ordered a take out box for half of it when he ordered. He’s eaten there before and knew what was coming.
Cincinnati Chili comes as a Three way, Four way or Five way. Chili here is served on a bed of spaghetti, and there are no beans in it. A Three way has a mound of shredded cheese on top of the chili. A Four way has either chopped onions or kidney beans (you specify which when you order) and a Five way has all of the above. If you get the beans, they’re not cooked in with the chili, but added on top as a garnish. The flavor of the chili itself is nothing at all like the flavor of Texas Chili. It does have chili powder in it, but it’s not hot at all. After hearing about it, I had to check it out. It’s really tame compared to Texas style Chili, and the idea of eating chili over spaghetti seems strange, but it’s a combination that works well. I liked it.
If you ever get to Cincinnati, make it a point to try some.
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I tried it once, that was enough for me.;-)
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There used to be a really good chili parlor here in Raleigh that serve different Chili's from around the country. They even had a small sample plate they brought out with a spoonfull of each so you could decide which to partake of. My wife would get 4 way onions a lot. I like a good chili with just some rice.
Isn't Cincinnati chili the one with cinnamon in it?
Hunter
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No
Dean
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Chili is made out of chilis and meat. None of that sissy stuff.. :whip2: :smiley:
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Chili is made out of chilis and meat. None of that sissy stuff.. :whip2: :smiley:
This Texan says amen!
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Spaghetti Red. It was a diner staple for working folks at the turn of the last century.
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Cincinnati is to chili as the Carolinas are to BBQ...
I need to get back to San Antonio!
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I've eaten some of my favorite foods in San Antonio, particularly Mexican, Chinese, burgers, and Gulf Seafood. But I've not had any really good BBQ there. In fact, other than brisket and beef, not had outstanding BBQ (pork & ribs) in the entire state.
I plan on heading there is a month or so, what do you recommend? (BTW- I used to live there)
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I've eaten some of my favorite foods in San Antonio, particularly Mexican, Chinese, burgers, and Gulf Seafood. But I've not had any really good BBQ there. In fact, other than brisket and beef, not had outstanding BBQ (pork & ribs) in the entire state.
I plan on heading there is a month or so, what do you recommend? (BTW- I used to live there)
If you used to live there, you know about Rudy's - always pretty good. I didn't think a chain outfit could do BBQ, but Rudy's can.
I haven't lived there since 2007, but I'd go looking up around Vanderpool and Leakey, and then over towards Johnson City, to find some of the small local joints in the Hill Country. You won't find pulled pork, but you should find some good ribs and sausage, maybe some sliced shoulder or butt. As you know, Texas BBQ is all about the rub - and the variety of meats...
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I plan on heading there is a month or so, what do you recommend? (BTW- I used to live there)
Lockhart is an hour up the road, and worth the drive.
Black's
Smitty's
Chisholm Trail
Kreuz Market
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I guess that is what happens when you have a city that historically had no Italians or Spanish. :food:
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I get hungry for it Crusty having lived in Cincinnati on the 80s then last year I found Skyline chili in the freezer section at Wallyworld.
Yup same odd spices and shredded beef ... I like to add some heat mmmm, mm.
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I find it interesting that people who've never even tasted Cincinnati chili can badmouth it. I think that's called Contempt Prior to Investigation. It's proof against all scientific advancement. It also might keep them from trying a meal that they might enjoy. I guess that being different means being ostracised.
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"Skyline Chili" was some of the worst crap I ever put in my mouth. Had the distinct taste and smell of detergent. The rest of the world calls it meat sauce and pasta, and the rest of the world does it MUCH better. Chef Boyardee does it better than that swill.
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If you used to live there, you know about Rudy's - always pretty good. I didn't think a chain outfit could do BBQ, but Rudy's can.
+1 on Rudy's. I order their BBQ sauce (regular for me, "Sissy sauce" for my wife) online.
One of the places I had a chance to eat at a few times while in Texas was:
Clark's Outpost Bar-B-Q
Tioga, TX 76271
Great BBQ!!
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I find it interesting that people who've never even tasted Cincinnati chili can badmouth it. I think that's called Contempt Prior to Investigation. It's proof against all scientific advancement. It also might keep them from trying a meal that they might enjoy. I guess that being different means being ostracised.
The purists (and I don't necessarily disagree with them) will tell you that "Chili" consists of chunks of Meat and Chili Peppers - nothing else.
So if it has ground beef, beans, tofu, or anything else in it, it's not really Chili and they can know right away that they're being scammed just from looking at the ingredients. If "Cincinnati Chili" was called something else, they might try it and like it, but as it is, it's like making Buffalo Chicken Wings with molasses, Russian dressing, and guava jelly. Call it something else if you want BCW enthusiasts to look at it .....
Lannis
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I have in-laws in Cincinnati and visit there every other year or so. Decades back, I tried Skyline. I couldn't choke that stuff down.
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it's like making Buffalo Chicken Wings with molasses, Russian dressing, and guava jelly.
:laugh: :laugh: :thumb:
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Yeah , and the Aussies don't have a clue what a "bloomin onion" is either :grin: Don't get me started on Foster's :laugh:
AND , me Mexicano amigos don't drink Corona either :shocked:
Dusty
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I have in-laws in Cincinnati and visit there every other year or so. Decades back, I tried Skyline. I couldn't choke that stuff down.
I'd go broke trying to run a restaurant because people's tastes are so different, and sometimes violently different.
For example, some people LOVE "Sausage Gravy". This is the lumpy white stuff that's served over biscuits in many parts of the USA for breakfast. I've tried it over and over again, at different places, and at the same table where experienced gourmets in US breakfast foods are eating it ....
.... and it just always tastes like greasy "white sauce" to me. It's made out of the grease that cooks out of sausage patties, the stuff that I pour into a can and dump in the trash.
I love most English food, including the very simple meat pies with parsley gravy, and including simple meals like neaps and tatties, and I like most haggis from local butcher's shops.
But even though I like fried potatoes, and I like cheese curds, and I generally like brown gravy - when you pour them over each other and call it "poutine", I can do without it. I tried it all over Quebec and New Brunswick, in nice restaurants, and in waterfront cafes where all the cab drivers were eating, and it just tasted like fried potatoes with cheese curds and gravy; there was none of that "the whole is greater than the sum of the parts" sensation that marks truly good cookery .....
Lannis
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Yeah , and the Aussies don't have a clue what a "bloomin onion" is either :grin:
Dusty
The only voice actor that ever has done a worse job on an accent than Dick Van Dyke did for "Bert" in "Mary Poppins" is that non-Australian idiot that tries to do an Australian accent for "Outback" restaurant commercials and that greasy bloomin' onion....
Lannis
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I find it interesting that people who've never even tasted Cincinnati chili can badmouth it. I think that's called Contempt Prior to Investigation. It's proof against all scientific advancement. It also might keep them from trying a meal that they might enjoy. I guess that being different means being ostracised.
I have tried it - though not for many years. Though I like chili, and I like spaghetti with meat sauce, what I tried there didn't appeal to me. Call it contempt after investigation. :tongue:
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Yeah , and the Aussies don't have a clue what a "bloomin onion" is either :grin: Don't get me started on Foster's :laugh:
AND , me Mexicano amigos don't drink Corona either :shocked:
Dusty
Castlemaine! Negra Modelo! Salva Vida! :boozing:
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1. "Cincinnati chili" is like "St. Louis-style pizza." So god-awful that nobody in any other location will eat it. I love you, original poster, but I can't stand Skyline chili.
2. "Mexican Weather Forecast" sounds like some scatological sex act. :laugh:
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Wick Fowler's 2 Alarm Chili Kit - is all you'll need.
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Wick Fowler's 2 Alarm Chili Kit - is all you'll need.
Try using replacing the water called for in Wick Fowler mix with Zing Zang Bloody Mary mix. Mmmmmmm
Bob
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In New Mexico, chili is actually just that.....chili as in chili peppers or a sauce made with chili peppers as the main ingredient; could be red or green, put on burgers, rice, beans, burritos, you name it. Hell, even McD's in the Land of Enchantment sells burgers with green or red chili (at least they did when I lived there a few years back).
Jon
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I like loco moco done with chili instead of gravy.
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1. "Cincinnati chili" is like "St. Louis-style pizza." So god-awful that nobody in any other location will eat it. I love you, original poster, but I can't stand Skyline chili.
2. "Mexican Weather Forecast" sounds like some scatological sex act. :laugh:
The Mexican Weather Forecast comes from an old joke. "Chile today, hot tamale". I haven't eaten at Skyline, but what I ate last night was good; I wouldn't hesitate to order it again.
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If you used to live there, you know about Rudy's - always pretty good. I didn't think a chain outfit could do BBQ, but Rudy's can.
I haven't lived there since 2007, but I'd go looking up around Vanderpool and Leakey, and then over towards Johnson City, to find some of the small local joints in the Hill Country. You won't find pulled pork, but you should find some good ribs and sausage, maybe some sliced shoulder or butt. As you know, Texas BBQ is all about the rub - and the variety of meats...
yeah, there's a Rudy's not far from me and it's not too bad. I wouldn't compare it to Arthur Bryant's or even local chain Billy Sims. I've tried the famous BBQ in Lockhart and agree that it's the best beef BBQ around. But they use the beef rub on the pork and it tastes a little like bacon rather than BBQ ribs IMO. I plan to be at the Hill Country for the Harvest Classic.
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1. "Cincinnati chili" is like "St. Louis-style pizza." So god-awful that nobody in any other location will eat it. I love you, original poster, but I can't stand Skyline chili.
2. "Mexican Weather Forecast" sounds like some scatological sex act. :laugh:
whoooa there on the St Louis pizza. I do miss Imo's. Great stuff.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Imos_Pizza_in_the_box_1.jpg)
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In New Mexico, chili is actually just that.....chili as in chili peppers or a sauce made with chili peppers as the main ingredient; could be red or green, put on burgers, rice, beans, burritos, you name it. Hell, even McD's in the Land of Enchantment sells burgers with green or red chili (at least they did when I lived there a few years back).
Jon
gotta have a Blake's Green Chili Lottaburger
(http://www.abqstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/blakes-lotaburger-4.jpg)
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1. "Cincinnati chili" is like "St. Louis-style pizza." So god-awful that nobody in any other location will eat it. I love you, original poster, but I can't stand Skyline chili.
2. "Mexican Weather Forecast" sounds like some scatological sex act. :laugh:
Maybe Skyline Chili is to Ohioans what Poi is to Hawaiians and Vegemite is to Australians. :laugh:
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Maybe Skyline Chili is to Ohioans what Poi is to Hawaiians and Vegemite is to Australians. :laugh:
Just remember - avocado is an excellent source of bacon!
New slogan for the California avocado growers' association:
"Avocado - it's food for food!"
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Just remember - avocado is an excellent source of bacon!
New slogan for the California avocado growers' association:
"Avocado - it's food for food!"
We have a certain WGer that had a most unfortunate experience with an avocado , can't remember who , but it wasn't pretty. Hmm , was it Semper Guzzi ?
Dusty
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Mexican Weather Forecast
Last night we went out for dinner. I had Cincinnati Style Chili ....
We'll add this to the list of foods that people love or hate with a religious fervor.
As far as I can tell, here are the foods for which people will fight to the death in defense of the "One and Only Proper Recipe".
1. Chili
2. Buffalo Chicken Wings
3. Philly Cheese Steak Sandwich
4. North Carolina Barbeque
5. Texas Barbeque
6. Brunswick Stew
7. Chicago Deep Dish Pizza
Any one of these can start a fight .....
Lannis
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I've eaten some of my favorite foods in San Antonio, particularly Mexican, Chinese, burgers, and Gulf Seafood. But I've not had any really good BBQ there. In fact, other than brisket and beef, not had outstanding BBQ (pork & ribs) in the entire state.
I plan on heading there is a month or so, what do you recommend? (BTW- I used to live there)
Come through Terrell Texas and I'll buy you some Eddie Deen's BBQ. It's local but he catered the Bush the elder Inauguration, The Bush the younger Governor Inauguration, and the Bush the Junior Presidential Inauguration. '
One of his sons is sort of a friend of mine and runs one of the restaurants, and I believe he has ever-so-slightly tweaked the sauce. Anyway, I'm serious.
DB
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Come through Terrell Texas and I'll buy you some Eddie Deen's BBQ.
One of his sons is sort of a friend of mine and runs one of the restaurants, and I believe he has ever-so-slightly tweaked the sauce. Anyway, I'm serious.
DB
Hmmmm - I'm hoping to be at the IBA Dallas event in October, might have to adjust my route! After all, that's a long way to go *snicker*
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There's a huge Eddie Deen's south of the convention center in Dallas. Perhaps a few more stores in DFW?
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Not really a big BBQ fan , but Muskogee is famous for the stuff . As for Cincinnati style chili , there have been several attempts to introduce 3 way into Oklahoma , never very successfully . Most Okies probably think it is a reference to ... well , you know :laugh: Give me decent Italian , or good Mexican anytime . When Pete and Jude visited , we went to a Mexican place , the look on Jude's face when they brought out her bucket sized Margarita was priceless , and when the waitress began serving the 3 plates necessary for her fajitas , she just stared in disbelief :grin:
Dusty
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We'll add this to the list of foods that people love or hate with a religious fervor.
As far as I can tell, here are the foods for which people will fight to the death in defense of the "One and Only Proper Recipe".
1. Chili
2. Buffalo Chicken Wings
3. Philly Cheese Steak Sandwich
4. North Carolina Barbeque
5. Texas Barbeque
6. Brunswick Stew
7. Chicago Deep Dish Pizza
Any one of these can start a fight .....
Lannis
You take that back or I'll punch ya right in the snozz! :wink:
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How does one successfully crossbreed a buffalo with a chicken :huh:
Dusty
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How does one successfully crossbreed a buffalo with a chicken :huh:
Dusty
Chickalo? Buffen? Now I'm really confused.... :huh:
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How does one successfully crossbreed a buffalo with a chicken :huh:
Dusty
It's illegal in 37 states and all the protectorates, and it's seriously ugly. Some say it involves a 2-4-2 steamer, storage batteries, and beer. Some say no beer, but lots of dill and rosemary. There are no eyewitness accounts for the obvious reasons.
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I find it interesting that people who've never even tasted Cincinnati chili can badmouth it. I think that's called Contempt Prior to Investigation. It's proof against all scientific advancement. It also might keep them from trying a meal that they might enjoy. I guess that being different means being ostracised.
Agreed! I prefer to investigate before I say for certain.
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How does one successfully crossbreed a buffalo with a chicken :huh:
Dusty
As the old punchline says; "VERY CAREFULLY"!!!!!!!!
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How does one successfully crossbreed a buffalo with a chicken :huh:
Dusty
We used to have a very mean, feisty, one-eyed Rhode Island Red rooster that would have taken on that job for free .....