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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Eadnams on September 03, 2015, 12:07:19 PM
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Was a little surprised at the prices on the OEM saddles here: http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=2967
Does anyone have any other sources for non-OEM saddles? Looking for something more suitable for longer term riding, poor weather riding, and 2-up riding on my V7 Racer.
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Cheaper than $200?
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Saddles for the V7 are pretty affordable to start with, considering the custom molded pan and other components. If you want to do something less expensive, you're likely going to have to sacrifice your existing seat and have it rebuilt on a budget - and even that won't be a whole lot cheaper to have done well.
Just to give you sticker shock, my saddle on the Norge was only a hair under $1100.
(http://people.delphiforums.com/ITSecurity/Norge/Day-Long%20seat%201.jpg)
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Fair enough ;)
From what I've read they all feel about the same anyway... Recommendations to be less sore for long rides? ;)
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Fair enough ;)
From what I've read they all feel about the same anyway... Recommendations to be less sore for long rides? ;)
They definitely don't all feel the same way - or I would've bought a $500 Corbin or Sargent instead!
Seats are probably the most subjective thing on a motorcycle, since they are where the butt meets the bike. While some like a softer feel, the vast majority of long distance riders will opt for a saddle that is firmer than stock; it helps eliminate pressure points and hot spots, once broken in. The Corbin is the hardest of the bunch, to the point where people talk about 'having a Corbin butt'. Sargent and Mustang make good seats. somewhat firmer than stock and differently shaped, but all three of these brands are a bit hit-or-miss when it comes to Moto Guzzi models. All three are stock seats that can be customized, i.e., they sell you a seat they've designed, and you can ask for it to be fitted, like an off-the-rack suit.
The top rung is occupied by fully custom saddles - and the best known come from one family. Bill and Rocky Meyer (brothers) run two separate companies making order-to-fit saddles. Both are excellent builders, but recent reports (last 12-18 months) have often indicated some issues with customer service. Not every order is affected, but enough to make a person notice. Their dad taught them both, and before he retired, he owned Russell Day-Long, the company considered best in the business by many. Since he didn't want to sell the company to one son or the other (and they didn't want to be partners), his company was sold to an outside party - along with his patented saddle design. The saddle on my bike is one of these, and I will buy one for any bike I plan to ride more than 100 miles at a time. They start around $600 and go up depending on what you want.
Your best solution - comfort on a budget - might be just what I earlier suggested, Let us know where you are, and hopefully someone here can suggest a nearby custom saddle maker who can modify the stock saddle to suit you, shaping it and adding firmer foam to match your preference, inseam, etc. Till you're ready to pony up the big bucks, that's likely your best choice.
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Is Corbin, Mustang, or Sargent an option for a V7?
I'm considering buying an OEM gel or the AF1 solo and a half seat if I can get a good report.
But I could consider a Corbin if one became available.
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Is Corbin, Mustang, or Sargent an option for a V7?
I'm considering buying an OEM gel or the AF1 solo and a half seat if I can get a good report.
But I could consider a Corbin if one became available.
I don't know what's out there, specifically, which is why I suggested customization by a local saddlemaker as a good choice to explore.
Out here in the desert, you don't want a gel seat no matter what. Think about a swimming pool in the sun...
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Well a quick check shows nothing from Mustang or Sargent for any Moto Guzzi (though Sargent has a custom, refurbish your own seat program that might help).
Last I heard Corbin was looking for a V7 test mule, so that might become an option.
Personally I don't like the Franken-Seats with wing like tumors that occur from some "custom" alterations.
I had an OEM gel seat on my Breva 1100 and it was fine for all East Coast use.
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Personally I don't like the Franken-Seats with wing like tumors that occur from some "custom" alterations.
Well, I console myself with the very real consideration that if I'm on it I don't have to look at it :smiley:
This is truly a custom seat, since it was built while I was at the shop. I arrived at 8 am, took 4 test rides through the day as it was gradually built, and left at 5 pm with a finished seat tailored exactly to me. The wings may look funny, but round about hour 8 and later, one starts to appreciate the concept. Round about hour 8 of the third day, one wouldn't want anything else.
I had a Corbin (over 100,000 miles on that on my V-Strom) and have ridden stock (25,000 on my Breva 750, and some others); the Moto Guzzi factory seats are by no means the worst. I find gel seats too soft in general, and they gather and store heat out here in the sunny desert west. As noted earlier, seats are perhaps the most personal of all items on a bike.
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Some of you know I'm in the seat cover business. I have many of the big aftermarket makers as customers-I make covers for them and/or they use my King of Fleece LLC SplitWeight(tm) branded covers.
As such, I talk with riders all over the world as they use my product to protect their $500.00 to $2000.00 (yes,not a typo!) seats.
Here's what I hear all the time: Russell and Bill Mayer folks always love 'em. Sargent, Corbin, folks mostly love 'em but not all.
I'll leave the Harley stuff for another day.
Smaller seat guys that get mentioned are Seth Laam, Pat Mitchell, and Rizoma (or something like that). Then there's a whole bunch of onezies and twozies.
For Moto Guzzi V7 bikes give Pat Mitchell at www.astechseats.com a call. He does great work on that style seat, the price is very reasonable, and the service is quick. He's done several for me on different bikes and they are all very well done. I can knock off 400 miles on my 15 Stone no problem.
Finally, RICK Mayer is out of business and folks may confuse him with brother Rocky (BMS).
Seats, screens, and Olive Oil. All VERY dependent on the users personal preference.
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Seats, screens, and Olive Oil. All VERY dependent on the users personal preference.
All excellent information - thanks! Let me know where I can get an EVS (extra virgin seat) :wink:
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http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=75507
I bought this one. Better than stock.
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Fair enough ;)
From what I've read they all feel about the same anyway... Recommendations to be less sore for long rides? ;)
Yep: saddle of your choice, plus AirHawk.
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http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=75507
I bought this one. Better than stock.
Cam, is that passenger grab strap removable?
Does it get in the way of comfort at all?
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Topic close my ass, lately. Heart too as I love this little bike. Anyhow, I bought a cheapy ebay V7 seat that was - and still is, for now anyhow - the 2-up kit seat for the Racer dually. It is nowhere near as attractive as my stock saddle but it's cushioned enough more than stock to make for a markedly better ride IMHO. In fact, after riding on it I began to wonder if a small bit of the complaints about the "stiff" suspension might be related to the stock seat as I didn't feel I was getting tossed around as much on the more cushioned kit seat. But regardless, it will go to a custom seat maker somewhere. The Bill Mayer V7 (Zinfan owns) is one that doesn't betray the lines of the bike too greatly.
For me it's a kind of white man's struggle :grin: :laugh: The bike is so stupid gorgeous I hate to muck it up with a barca lounger seat. At the same time, if I really do plan on doing any kind of touring I want a comfortable ride and my experience has been that nobody is as good as a Russell. And hence the "struggle"; do I want a seat that is supremely comfortable or one that is not unattractive but comfortable enough? Such is the Friday ride.
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Cam, is that passenger grab strap removable?
Does it get in the way of comfort at all?
NOT removable. Far enough back that I don't feel it at all (I've tried to slide back, but it's too far back for me to feel it).
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OK, I'm asking the group, does anyone know of a custom MC saddle maker in the New Mexico area? I could go as far north as Denver, and south to El Paso. Phoenix is too far for a day ride and going east is nothing but desert.
Jurgen
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NOT removable. Far enough back that I don't feel it at all (I've tried to slide back, but it's too far back for me to feel it).
I wonder long term if I should
A. Go for that one
B. Try the OEM Gel
C. Send one of mine out to get redone (maybe keep the stock one stock and have the Café one redone with more/better foam but NOT to add any wings or the like)
D. Wait for a Corbin to come out.
???
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I wonder long term if I should
A. Go for that one
B. Try the OEM Gel
C. Send one of mine out to get redone (maybe keep the stock one stock and have the Caf� one redone with more/better foam but NOT to add any wings or the like)
D. Wait for a Corbin to come out.
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Next time we ride together we can swap out seats and you can try the one I have?
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Next time we ride together we can swap out seats and you can try the one I have?
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I am looking for a nice dark brown seat for my V7 stone. Saw that guzzi had one at the Milan moto show but haven't seen one up for retail anywhere. Have you?
I am assuming they will update or add to their mod kits. Maybe they'll include one then. Tan brown seats are pretty trendy.
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I wonder long term if I should
D. Wait for a Corbin to come out.
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I wouldn't put much stock in this one but ya never know. When I spoke with a guy in their tech office he said the V7 was on their list to acquire a test mule from which to build a pan; yet, when I emailed him back and said I could likely find him someone from the board here I never heard back from him. This was about 3 weeks ago.
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http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=75507
I bought this one. Better than stock.
:gotpics: Got a shot of it on the bike? I put a seat on my '09 V7C from the '10 Cafe and really like it, both looks and comfort. Problem is after 25K mi. it has a seam that is splitting. Trying to figure out which way to go next.
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:gotpics: Got a shot of it on the bike? I put a seat on my '09 V7C from the '10 Cafe and really like it, both looks and comfort. Problem is after 25K mi. it has a seam that is splitting. Trying to figure out which way to go next.
Cam's on the road and asked me to post this pic of his bike for you.
Best I can do is a link to google photos:
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Thanks Kev, that's just what I needed to know.
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I wonder long term if I should
A. Go for that one
B. Try the OEM Gel
C. Send one of mine out to get redone (maybe keep the stock one stock and have the Caf� one redone with more/better foam but NOT to add any wings or the like)
D. Wait for a Corbin to come out.
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I found the OEM gel saddle to be only slightly more comfortable than stock. I don't think it looks as nice either, as the lettering is in a shadow profile and it's stamped "Comfort Gel" under Moto Guzzi. I found the Racer saddle to be slightly more comfortable than stock, though the hump is too close to the tank unless you're pretty short.
Purely subjective, but I'd rate the stock saddle as 3/10 on the comfort scale. The Comfort Saddle would be a 5/10, as would the Racer saddle. That new 1.5 cafe version that Cam has looks perfect, actually. I don't like those weird looking custom versions, but I tend to lean toward form over function. I have no doubt that they're comfortable, but I can't get past the appearance.
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Any strap can be cut under the bottom edge of the pan.
Astech seat can retain the stock look of your seat if that's what you want. Hope that helps. The stock Guzzi look is easy to do.
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RSS29, you don't still have, and want to sell, the OEM gel seat??? Do you?
King, I'm told the OEM straps are faux straps and are sewn to the cover all the way around. I assume this changes things?
King, I assume your business concentrates on the aesthetics of the cover and not foam upgrades or replacement, yes?
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RSS29, you don't still have, and want to sell, the OEM gel seat??? Do you?
Sorry, no. I sold it. I forgot about the faux strap on the Stone vs Special seat. The Comfort Saddle doesn't have that, so if you find yourself sitting on the Stone's strap it may be more comfortable. Aside from that I don't think I'd recommend it over stock.
A Corbin would be nice if/when they ever make one. They're super hard, but I had one on another bike and it was great. A Gunfighter and Lady with backrest would be perfect. They don't have that catcher's mitt look of the true custom saddles either.
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http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=75507
I bought this one. Better than stock.
I'd give this one a 7/10. Not perfect, but much better than the original.
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Cam's on the road and asked me to post this pic of his bike for you.
Best I can do is a link to google photos:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNboFgy5SEwLzyl5UxtXItpOPFW5DLKPaTYTRvqn7RW8Wf2uBqB6f6wLUFNVL-NsQ?key=TW4xRjBZQTFhaXotUmJXbGFsM19kbEREYVhMblFR
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Wait, what did you do to my link to make that work. Just inserting those Google pic links in img tags wasn't working for me?
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Damn that is a nice seat. And I don't even like cafe racer bumps - that mini one looks sharp, Guzzi eagle fantastic.
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I've been experimenting with some modded V7 seats. I'll get that one and add some accents to it as well as our foam(s) and post it up when I'm done.
Almost finished with a different variation now-new idea for density testing-we'll see how it works out.
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I've been experimenting with some modded V7 seats. I'll get that one and add some accents to it as well as our foam(s) and post it up when I'm done.
Almost finished with a different variation now-new idea for density testing-we'll see how it works out.
Ahhhh, so you do add foams? Maybe we should talk about doing something to my cafe seat?
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http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=75507
I bought this one. Better than stock.
Is this the one that is a little taller?
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Is this the one that is a little taller?
No, stock height. I did call to verify prior to my purchase. It does visually appear taller, but my leg reach to the ground is same as stock. Their ad for the SINGLE deluxe seat does say it's made for longer legged riders.
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Wait, what did you do to my link to make that work. Just inserting those Google pic links in img tags wasn't working for me?
I clicked on your link, then right-click the picture, select "copy link location", or whatever similar option you get for the browser that you are using. Then paste that between the img tags.
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I clicked on your link, then right-click the picture, select "copy link location", or whatever similar option you get for the browser that you are using. Then paste that between the img tags.
Ahhh, so weird they added three steps to the process.
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No, stock height. I did call to verify prior to my purchase. It does visually appear taller, but my leg reach to the ground is same as stock. Their ad for the SINGLE deluxe seat does say it's made for longer legged riders.
The bump is back further for "more leg room". The seat might not necessarily be any higher.
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Ahhh, so weird they added three steps to the process.
No. It's no different than posting a picture of any other web page page. You don't use the address of the whole page, but, just the address of the image.
Another method, is to right-click, select "view picture", which browser to the image file itself. Then, you can copy from the address bar of the browser.
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No. It's no different than posting a picture of any other web page page. You don't use the address of the whole page, but, just the address of the image.
Another method, is to right-click, select "view picture", which browser to the image file itself. Then, you can copy from the address bar of the browser.
No Jay, I know all that. But prior to a recent change with Google I could just do that from my Google pics account.
Now, maybe because of some privacy concerns or something weird it won't work that way.
I have to select the photo I want to post.
Click on " get shareable link "
Copy said link (which I posted here)
Click on said link, THEN right click the photo.
Previously I could just right click the photo at the beginning of that. But I see the difference in the photo coffee tagging that they changed to directly prevent that.
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No Jay, I know all that. But prior to a recent change with Google I could just do that from my Google pics account.
Now, maybe because of some privacy concerns or something weird it won't work that way.
I have to select the photo I want to post.
Click on " get shareable link "
Copy said link (which I posted here)
Click on said link, THEN right click the photo.
Previously I could just right click the photo at the beginning of that. But I see the difference in the photo coffee tagging that they changed to directly prevent that.
I was just looking at it, I see what you mean. I typically use flikr, they have a feature like what you're saying. In fact, you can get the BBCODE to insert directly into the post, which as the img tag, and makes it so if someone clicks on your pic in the post, they go to your flickr page. Photobucket also has a similar feature.
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The bump is back further for "more leg room". The seat might not necessarily be any higher.
Yes, that might be it.
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Good info! Just ordered the 1.5. I was thinking about customizing the stock seat to take the dip out of it, but the 1.5 appears to be level from front to back, just what I was looking for. Thanks for the recommendation, Cam.
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At present I'm on day 10 of an 11 day trip which has included a few 600 - 700 km days, and mostly 150 - 200k at a stretch (4,300 km so far, back home tomorrow). I'm using the cafe seat (but with rear sets & clips ons) and have absolutely no trouble, pains or discomfort riding. I guess I'm the appropriate body shape, or after 140,000 km on the V7s, I've adjusted. Although, there was that 300km non stop stretch a few years back (before the rear sets, I think, and perhaps on the stick seat) that had me in agony for the last 100km.
I'm still considering that ribbed seat - they look good.
Mal
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No, stock height. I did call to verify prior to my purchase. It does visually appear taller, but my leg reach to the ground is same as stock. Their ad for the SINGLE deluxe seat does say it's made for longer legged riders.
Ok got ya. It would be nice to find one that was a little taller. The DLX states it is longer as well but not taller?
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kev m,
Try Pat at Astech seats. He really does a great job with the V7. I'm doing a lot but for now it's for me and a group of test riders.
Now, if you need a waterproof/sunproof seat COVER for your new stuff.............. ...well, I'm your guy.
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kev m,
Try Pat at Astech seats. He really does a great job with the V7. I'm doing a lot but for now it's for me and a group of test riders.
Now, if you need a waterproof/sunproof seat COVE for your new stuff.............. ...well, I'm your guy.
Will keep it in mind, thanks.
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The secret to greater comfort ony my V7, FOR ME, was to ride the piss out of the bike. The seat was a wooden plank when I bought it... now it feels awesome.
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The secret to greater comfort ony my V7, FOR ME, was to ride the piss out of the bike. The seat was a wooden plank when I bought it... now it feels awesome.
On my Stone I gave up on the stock seat after about 7k miles... if it wasn't broken in then, it wasn't going to break in enough FOR ME.
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Bill Mayer of Bill Mayer Saddles is also known as Rocky. His brother is Rick and is the subject of some issues. I have a BMS on my Cal Special and it made all the difference.
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Two things.
First, I'm still trying to decide about what custom seat maker to go with for my spare stocker. I've had some good communication with Loren at Baldwin. They were featured some years back in an issue of MCN. He says he can raise me up and improve the stock seat while still keeping the vintage look, similar to his work such as this he's done for Bonnies and Scramblers. Says $425 plus shipping for the all vinyl, $620 and shipping for leather.
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc57/bpreynolds/image.jpg1_zps2bxuruwf.jpg) (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/bpreynolds/media/image.jpg1_zps2bxuruwf.jpg.html)
Second, a question.
Anyone find any pictures anywhere of a Russell on a V7? If you can't find one is anyone here skilled enough with a photo chop app to mark one up? Russell has a picture of a Stone seat they've made on their website; yet, the photo - purposely, I wonder - doesn't show much of any of the bike with the seat on it, just mostly close ups of the seat; thus, you get no real sense of what one would look on a V7, or rather, exactly how terrible it would look. Been my experience Russells are the best in the business for comfort but they double as the ugliest seats around. I tried googling every term and use of quotations my library brain could think of for google image searches but I can't seem to find anything.
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If you go to the Russell site and click on specialty seats, click on the black and yellow v7 special and it will show a full view of the bike.
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If you go to the Russell site and click on specialty seats, click on the black and yellow v7 special and it will show a full view of the bike.
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Well duh. Thanks.
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Go with Baldwin, that's gorgeous...
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Go with Baldwin, that's gorgeous...
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I know many here go with function over form, but it would be a shame to ruin the looks of that beautiful Stone with a monstrosity of a seat. If the 1.5 doesn't work out for me, and I can't find anyone locally, I may have to go the Baldwin route myself. Thanks for posting that pic.
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Astech can do that leather saddle. They're great and not as much $$$$.
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Go with Baldwin, that's gorgeous...
I know, I know! I keep telling myself the same, especially as Loren has been so friendly and helpful as opposed to my Russell experiences in the past where my questions and such are usually met with almost cantankerous responses. If I got the Russell I would only be having the driver portion redone as my wife no longer rides with me. And in truth, the only reason I would choose the Russell over the others is for the added backrest driver option as that has proven beneficial for me on my previous Cali. Having said this, I suppose I could just get a Ventura rack and bag for travelling and perch it right behind me and that would likely serve just as well. And too, when I tally up the order sheet on Russell's page it's (ouch) $750 with shipping. Maybe I'll give Loren a call.
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Now we're different heights so maybe that's the difference. But I can't see a driver's backrest doing anything on the V7 for me. I've got an ever so slight lean forward. You really think it would make a difference?
My Jackal was different - seat seemed somehow lower to the frame, the bars came back a little more I dunno. But the riding position was definitely different.
Besides - Russell? Not just no - F NO!
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Damn...maybe a single seat version would be better, but that is fuuuugly.
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Now we're different heights so maybe that's the difference. But I can't see a driver's backrest doing anything on the V7 for me. I've got an ever so slight lean forward. You really think it would make a difference?
My Jackal was different - seat seemed somehow lower to the frame, the bars came back a little more I dunno. But the riding position was definitely different.
Besides - Russell? Not just no - F NO!
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:grin: Yeah, that dually looks kinda hideous, eh? The single on a Stone on Russell's website - at least what you can make out of the photograph since it's not wide out from the bike - does appear slightly more attractive but put a ribbon on a donkey and it's still not a pony, right?
As per the backrest I too considered this but in truth it was the same for me on my California Stone whose bars were shorter than the Cali Special and - if I recall correctly - even the Jackal before that I owned. I used the backrest mainly on long slab journeys where I would set the Go Cruise and lean back to straight up position with my left hand still on the bars. The more I think about it, however, the more I just don't think I would mostly use it on the V7. My most enjoyable trips these days on any bikes usually involve me stopping about every 80 miles or so and stretching or walking around a short bit. In this case, a backrest really would not come much into play.
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I have never cared for Corbins. I've had several Mayers, both Rick and Bill (Rocky) and they are great but are around $600. Lately, I've gotten several "Seat Concepts" deals. They supply foam and cover and you put it on your pan. Takes around 30' or so and is much less expensive. They will also customize to some extent. They don't list anything but maybe I'll contact them.
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I've contacted Seat Concepts to see if they will start making some. I've been real happy with them, they supply foam and cover and you do the rest. They are "behind" and that means 5-10 days to get your seat, which is an indicator of their self expectations.
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Russell now has a "Sport" seat on their website. I spoke with them about making one for my Norge. A lot less "F...NO". They sounded very accommodating. I have a spare seat pan and the seat would be more an attempt to make my wife comfy than me. They said they would do a "Sport" front section and a "Daylong" rear section for my wife..... And I would ride solo with the one I am using now.
Stay safe, John
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I have a Russell Sport seat on my Tiger 1050. It's still a boat.
And, not as comfortable to me as my Tiger seat from BMS, which was 2/3 the cost of the Russell.
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:grin: Yeah, that dually looks kinda hideous, eh? The single on a Stone on Russell's website - at least what you can make out of the photograph since it's not wide out from the bike - does appear slightly more attractive but put a ribbon on a donkey and it's still not a pony, right?
The Gray and Black seat on the White Stone?
https://www.day-long.com/gallery/specialty-seats/
NOPE, just as bad... not even worth considering.
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On the books and a build date set for October 8th with Loren at Baldwin. I'll update with pics and report once I get it back and put on a few miles.
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On the books and a build date set for October 8th with Loren at Baldwin. I'll update with pics and report once I get it back and put on a few miles.
NICE - GOOD CHOICE!
Definitely want to see that when it is done. And hear about it.
I don't think I'd personally go with the brown on my white Stone. Though I don't think it would look bad, I don't think it will look as AWESOME as it will on yours!
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NICE - GOOD CHOICE!
Definitely want to see that when it is done. And hear about it.
I don't think I'd personally go with the brown on my white Stone. Though I don't think it would look bad, I don't think it will look as AWESOME as it will on yours!
I wimped out and am just going with the black vinyl though I do think dark tan looks nice on these green ones similar to the Tenni Grisos. I dunno, guess I have until the 8th to figure it out :thumb: