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Title: Buying a norge
Post by: 73guzzeldorado on September 03, 2015, 01:24:21 PM
Looking at buying a new Norge, wife says Eldo and 90 cali 3 touring must go.

Now my Cali 3 gets 50+mpg

Eldo gets 45+mpg

What can I expect out of norge mpg if touring at 70mph and riding it like an old guy?

Thanks
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: John Ulrich on September 03, 2015, 01:35:04 PM
Looking at buying a new Norge, wife says Eldo and 90 cali 3 touring must go.

Jay,

Better bring the wife by to have breakfast with us.  http://www.mnguzzi.com/
After her head stops spinning with how many bikes some of the guys at the table have (one guys buys one every month).... She will be so happy you "only" have two with #3 coming.   :wink:  ......... Worked with my wife!   :wink:

Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: 73guzzeldorado on September 03, 2015, 01:55:13 PM
Geeez John, I wish that would work,this girl is tough and wants her new flooring, counter tops and bathroom.

If I wish to wake up in the morning, the bikes must go, you know health reasons!!!
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: Waltr on September 03, 2015, 02:02:13 PM
My 2012 get better MPG when hot outside, so considering that I get on average 44 MPH on the highway and never go below 40 mpg no matter what.  I am using Beetle's latest map.
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: John Ulrich on September 03, 2015, 02:10:28 PM
Geeez John, I wish that would work,this girl is tough and wants her new flooring, counter tops and bathroom.

Sell that Mooney and you two can have it all!!   :wink:
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: JeffOlson on September 03, 2015, 02:31:19 PM
Ridden hard and fast (which is how I like to ride it on my 20-mile commute and on winding roads), my Norge gets in the high 30s to low 40s. Ridden gently but swiftly out on the highway, it gets in the low to high 40s. (Stock map, stock exhaust--for the moment, side cases, and top case.)
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: Gliderjohn on September 03, 2015, 02:41:28 PM
My 2011 with bags and trunk gets around 38-40 at highways speeds (70-85), have not ridden enough in city to determine that mileage but notice it definitely gulps more gas going by the gauge. But I didn't buy it for good gas economy.
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: BRIO on September 03, 2015, 02:43:51 PM
Maybe buy a nearly new second hand one for half and keep the rest...
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: ITSec on September 03, 2015, 02:54:33 PM
If you're not forced to use California gas, you should get around 44 or even better. Here in Nevada we get the crud from LA's refineries, and riding a bit enthusiastically, I get around 40-42 most of the time; fueling is enriched a bit on mine to deal with the heat and for other nefarious reasons...
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: Bill Hagan on September 03, 2015, 03:08:27 PM

****
But I didn't buy it for good gas economy.
GliderJohn

Exactly.   :thumb:

Bill

Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: 73guzzeldorado on September 03, 2015, 03:16:47 PM
I normally only stop every 300 miles on the cali for fuel and spend a lot of time in the middle of no where.
This bike is hopefully my Alaska and beyond bike. So the mileage is more of where I carry the gas can, or don't.
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on September 03, 2015, 04:05:55 PM
No freakin' way I'd sell an Eldorado to get a Norge.
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: arveno on September 03, 2015, 04:20:51 PM
No freakin' way I'd sell an Eldorado to get a Norge.

 :1: :1: :1: :1:


and buy this one , i am sure he will take 4 k and you will save money to do the flooring .....  :wink:

https://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/mcy/5187782928.html
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: ITSec on September 03, 2015, 04:28:14 PM
No freakin' way I'd sell an Eldorado to get a Norge.

I can understand that, but then again - you aren't called Antietam Modern Cycle, are you?  :wink:
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: M0T0Geezer on September 03, 2015, 04:31:13 PM
Offer to move  to Colorado with her and your motorcycle(s).

Any fuel injected motor will get 10% better fuel economy at higher altitudes.

My Breva 750 gets 60 mpg in mixed driving near Denver.

Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: Gliderjohn on September 03, 2015, 04:32:54 PM
Quote from 73guzzeldorado:
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I normally only stop every 300 miles on the cali for fuel and spend a lot of time in the middle of no where.
This bike is hopefully my Alaska and beyond bike. So the mileage is more of where I carry the gas can, or don't.

I consider 225 miles absolute max miles on a tank. I generally try not to go past 200. If I remember the last time I filled up around the 225 mark it took 5.8 gallons. Close to end of useable fuel.
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: 73guzzeldorado on September 03, 2015, 04:34:18 PM
Offer to move  to Colorado with her and your motorcycle(s).

Any fuel injected motor will get 10% better fuel economy at higher altitudes.

My Breva 750 gets 60 mpg in mixed driving near Denver.

That's in 3 years when I retire
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: atavar on September 03, 2015, 04:37:48 PM
Think of it this way..  with a 6 gallon tank on the Norge you are going to get about 200-225 miles between fills..  which at 45mpg means you are using about 5 gallons.. even if gas is $5/gallon you are only spending about $.05/mile for fuel. 
If you get decent sport tires for the Norge and they cost $300 for a 5Kmi set of tires you are spending about $.06/mile on tires. 
Stop worrying about gas, think about rubber..  ;)
Oh yeah, and if you are a low mileage rider at like 200 miles a month and you are paying $20/month for insurance you are spending $.10/mile for insurance. 
Gas is your least expense on a motorcycle..
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on September 03, 2015, 04:39:14 PM
I can understand that, but then again - you aren't called Antietam Modern Cycle, are you?  :wink:

I rode a Norge... and hated it. Felt like a big scooter with a Guzzi engine buried somewhere deep inside.
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: Perazzimx14 on September 03, 2015, 04:44:14 PM
Buy the Norge keep the Eldo and Cal3 and the wife goes. Simple solutions to simple problems
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: atavar on September 03, 2015, 04:45:46 PM
Yep, my second wife said it was her or the bikes..  I still miss her once in a while..
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: ITSec on September 03, 2015, 04:48:55 PM
I rode a Norge... and hated it. Felt like a big scooter with a Guzzi engine buried somewhere deep inside.

But when I look at your list of personal bikes, the ones I most want to steal from you are the Yamaha XT500 and the Moto Morini 350! (I used to race a RD-400D). I find the Norge to be a perfect blend of modern sport-touring design with the things that make a Guzzi distinct and desirable...

Would I love a '70s Eldo, or a T bike or an SP or...? Sure! But for a whole different set of reasons from my Norge. Right now, I plan on hitting a quarter million with it, and I've made a good start.
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: Waltr on September 03, 2015, 05:11:14 PM
I rode a Norge... and hated it. Felt like a big scooter with a Guzzi engine buried somewhere deep inside.

Geez Charlie - you hurt my fweelings :sad:
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: Waltr on September 03, 2015, 05:13:18 PM
 Actuall when I was in Clayton NY last month some jerk in an old Buick askes me if my bike was a cross between a scooter and a motorcycle,  I said yes.
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: PJPR01 on September 03, 2015, 05:20:25 PM
$300 dollars for a set of tires which last only 5k miles?  Holy crap...what are you running that you get so little out of a set of tires?

42- 44 mpg is very fair at sea level with 93 Octane and no ethanol, and I drive it aggressively.  If you drive it like an old man (no offense to the old men here on the site  :) ), you should get even better than that! 

I love my Scooter, I mean Norge!  :)
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: 73guzzeldorado on September 03, 2015, 05:32:03 PM
Buy the Norge keep the Eldo and Cal3 and the wife goes. Simple solutions to simple problems

I'm afraid that the wife would take better than half, I can't ride a unicycle.

I do appreciate all the advice though, I just can't afford it.

On the other hand I will miss both of them, however, they have been a great time with great memories
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: 73guzzeldorado on September 03, 2015, 05:39:49 PM
Jay,

Better bring the wife by to have breakfast with us.  http://www.mnguzzi.com/
After her head stops spinning with how many bikes some of the guys at the table have (one guys buys one every month).... She will be so happy you "only" have two with #3 coming.   :wink:  ......... Worked with my wife!   :wink:

I hope to be back riding as soon as I heal from this last surgery, I'm looking forward to hooking up with you guys at the flood run or maybe for breakfast
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: bad Chad on September 03, 2015, 06:00:26 PM
I rode a Norge... and hated it. Felt like a big scooter with a Guzzi engine buried somewhere deep inside.
ok, but understand, you perspective is miles outside the norm.  Your most modern bike is apparently, a 19 year old dirt bike.  I wouldn't expect you to "get" anything newer than a 1999 Bassa.   But if it works for you, rock on!
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: Bill Hagan on September 03, 2015, 07:08:48 PM
ok, but understand, you perspective is miles outside the norm.  Your most modern bike is apparently, a 19 year old dirt bike.  I wouldn't expect you to "get" anything newer than a 1999 Bassa.   But if it works for you, rock on!

Despite his bad judgment in this, Charlie remains a lovable looper luddite.  :laugh:

Bill

P.S. Charlie can kick some Guzzi gluteus maximi on that "19 year old dirt bike."   :wink:



Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on September 03, 2015, 07:09:15 PM
ok, but understand, you perspective is miles outside the norm.  Your most modern bike is apparently, a 19 year old dirt bike.  I wouldn't expect you to "get" anything newer than a 1999 Bassa.   But if it works for you, rock on!

I may not have owned anything newer than a '98 Centauro (which I liked very much), but I do bum rides on friend's bikes fairly often. Liked the '14 Super Tenere, '10 Mana GT, 2002 EV derivative, '09 KLX250S and my brother's Ducati 907ie. I personally found nothing attractive about the '09 Norge I rode. I'm glad other folks like and buy Norges, I just don't like them. "If it works for you, rock on!" indeed.  :wink:
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: canuguzzi on September 03, 2015, 07:19:06 PM
Your range will be asnothers have said, after 200 miles you should fill it. Testing the limits will always work to your disadvantage, that long uphill climb fully loaded won't factor into thinking and the Norge does not like to be pushed.

At a steady cruise in the 4500-5000 rpm range you can get some amazing MPG figures and think something isn't right until the next leg reveals the same.

A brand new Norge with top case but last model year shouldn't go for much more than the high 11s and the usual tax/license OTD. It might be possible to find a late model 8 valve for 5 and 1/2 but that might take some doing.
Title: Re: Buying a norge
Post by: kingoffleece on September 03, 2015, 07:51:06 PM
Pick up brand new 14 Norge next SAT the 12th.