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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: JeffOlson on September 14, 2015, 11:29:22 AM
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I stopped for a school bus on my way to work, and a nice lady rear-ended me. I'm fine, but my Norge may be toast...
She really was very apologetic and kind. Fire, police, and others came. Just waiting now for my tow.
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Cock :sad:
I hope you're ok
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Bummer, glad you're OK.
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Was she on her phone by any chance? I was rear ended on my 1971 Ambassador, but no cell phones back then. Glad your ok. :boozing:
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Thanks, everyone!
No cell phone, just a very dangerous, high-speed corner with a school bus stop in the middle of it. Thankfully, I flew! Who knew that I could fly? 😉
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Amazing how many times this happens . Glad you are OK :thumb: Oh , did your cape deploy ? :laugh:
Dusty
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I'm sure everyone hopes you are OK but right now you don't know that. Go to the hospital or doc right away. It is very important. You might feel fine but that could be masking something.
Please go to the hospital.
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glad you're OK
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Glad you are all right, any kids on the bus, if so the pictures should be all over the ITN by now. Good advice to get checked out just to be safe. Sorry for your Norge. The good news? Maybe one more cager will be looking out for motor cycles.
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That's my biggest worry, glad your not mangled.
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Amazing how many times this happens . Glad you are OK :thumb: Oh , did your cape deploy ? :laugh:
Dusty
Ha ha! I felt like it deployed!
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I agree with the advise to go to the hospital. I was rear ended in 2006 and refused the ambulance. didn't know until a week later that I fractured my wrist. I flew over my windshield and had severe road rash that I treated "painfully". glad you walked away. steve
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Glad you are ok, I always worry about getting rear ended and try to stay to one side of the vehicle in front so I don't end up as the meat in a sandwich.
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I'm sure everyone hopes you are OK but right now you don't know that. Go to the hospital or doc right away. It is very important. You might feel fine but that could be masking something.
Please go to the hospital.
Add, right after the collision you experience shock, your body goes into survival mode, people can walk away with spinal cord injuries only to become paralyzed later. Over the next few weeks, pay very close attention to what your body tells you.
Start keeping a journal of your physical condition, aches and pains, that sort of thing. You'll thank yourself later for doing it.
We always worry about the bike, to heck with it, they made more than one.
Even a slow collision can do lots of damage not immediately apparent.
There are lots of Norges, only one Jeff Olson.
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Add, right after the collision you experience shock, your body goes into survival mode, people can walk away with spinal cord injuries only to become paralyzed later. Over the next few weeks, pay very close attention to what your body tells you.
Start keeping a journal of your physical condition, aches and pains, that sort of thing. You'll thank yourself later for doing it.
We always worry about the bike, to heck with it, they made more than one.
Even a slow collision can do lots of damage not immediately apparent.
There are lots of Norges, only one Jeff Olson.
Thanks! You are right. I will keep an eye on things. Right now, "It's just a flesh wound."
The thing I am really dreading is telling my wife...
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Jeff, I worked at a school bus garage fro about 4 years around 1980.....Drivers run into the big yellow things all the time, truly amazing and it was before cell phones......You just happened to be in the way....
If the school bus stop is a dangerous situation that at least in part may have contributed to the accident , then you should try to report it somehow...
Good luck... and hoping you wife will hug you and you won't get hit with a frying pan for riding a Murdercycle :thewife:
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Glad you're able to walk away from this, but definitely get checked out, at least by your PCP. If you got air, you could likely have a concussion. When something similar happened to me, I waited until after seeing my Dr. to tell my wife. :thewife: You may not want to go that route.
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Jeff, I worked at a school bus garage fro about 4 years around 1980.....Drivers run into the big yellow things all the time, truly amazing and it was before cell phones......You just happened to be in the way....
If the school bus stop is a dangerous situation that at least in part may have contributed to the accident , then you should try to report it somehow...
Good luck... and hoping you wife will hug you and you won't get hit with a frying pan for riding a Murdercycle :thewife:
Ha! She may indeed have something to say about riding motorcycles...
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Thanks! You are right. I will keep an eye on things. Right now, "It's just a flesh wound."
The thing I am really dreading is telling my wife...
Bet your wife won't care about the bike but will be thrilled and thankful you are OK. You could have been in a smart car and probably 2" thick so in a way, being on a bike saved your bacon. Spin it man, spin it.
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Ha! She may indeed have something to say about riding motorcycles...
Hmm , maybe the old " Honey , I just lost all of our money" routine will work . After you reassure her that the money is still around , then mention the incident :laugh:
Dusty
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I'm thinking of getting this blinking brake light module.
http://www.signaldynamics.com/backoffwigwag
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Yes, sometimes fessing up to my better half is harder than getting hit from behind... She's coming to my office to join me for lunch in about 30 minutes.
"Honey, could I get a ride home from you tonight?"
"What? Why?"
"Well, I could get a cab if it is too much trouble..."
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I'm thinking of getting this blinking brake light module.
http://www.signaldynamics.com/backoffwigwag
Get the Photon P3 (http://www.lights.skenedesign.com/) LED stop lights w/ controller.
These things are BRIGHT and also flash when your brake is first applied. They also have a version that adds turn signal function, and (also included in the base model) have a hazard light mode, great for bikes without hazard lights.
I just added these to my F800GT, and am so impressed with them that I want them on all my bikes.
And, for those looks-conscious people, they're quite inconspicuous when the bike is turned off.
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One of my biggest fears, too. Glad to see you are (probably) ok, but as people are saying.. get checked out. One other thing. Her insurance company will want you to sign your rights away. Don't sign anything until you *know* you are all right.
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One of my biggest fears, too. Glad to see you are (probably) ok, but as people are saying.. get checked out. One other thing. Her insurance company will want you to sign your rights away. Don't sign anything until you *know* you are all right.
Absolutely! I will make sure I am okay before I sign away my rights and settle. That is an important reminder.
My best friend is a partner is a large SF law firm, and he settled too quickly, before he was healed. Needed surgery afterwards!
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I'm thinking of getting this blinking brake light module.
http://www.signaldynamics.com/backoffwigwag
I suppose you do what you can.
But if the woman can't see a 30,000 pound, 11 foot tall school bus with red flashing lights and strobes all over it, she's probably not going to see your 800 pound rider and motorcycle even if it had a fire-breathing dragon on the back .....
Lannis
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I suppose you do what you can.
But if the woman can't see a 30,000 pound, 11 foot tall school bus with red flashing lights and strobes all over it, she's probably not going to see your 800 pound rider and motorcycle even if it had a fire-breathing dragon on the back .....
Lannis
Sad but true. :smiley: That's actually one of the things I like about SoCal. I can sit or ride *between* cars, lessening the chance of getting rear ended. Lane splitting is safer, as far as I'm concerned.
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Glad you're here to tell us about. Like everyone else says,go get checked out! Best of luck with the wife.
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Thanks again, everyone!
My wife was very understanding. She will let me get another motorcycle if the Norge is totaled.
By the way, here are some pics (I took the top case off since it has a bunch of my gear in it):
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(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12032007_10204960788601399_8878350872882902639_n.jpg?oh=01f33b3a6d73a96d14b960dc109e4474&oe=566FDD87)
(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11014934_10204960788561398_6345433728209091832_n.jpg?oh=c25a637ddb70e7002f3de24d57947b31&oe=5666CC41)
(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11230601_10204960788521397_6401032097535116344_n.jpg?oh=424ea4d1df98d71db0e8ec3f010d45a8&oe=566D80B3)
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That'll buff out..
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Props to you for not beating the crap out of an old lady. ;)
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Doesn't look totaled to me, at least from the photos.
Like yourself though there may be hidden damage.
Glad it's not too bad.
Glad you are OK
Glad the wife was understanding.
Not Glad that it happened in the first place. One of my biggest fears also.
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That'll buff out..
:rolleyes: :thumb:
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In hind sight, I could have avoided this accident by not stopping for the school bus! That will teach me not to obey their stop signs, at least on multi-lane curves where I could be rear-ended by a daydreamer.
The good news is no pain--and insurance will take care of it, one way or the other.
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Thanks again, everyone!
My wife was very understanding. She will let me get another motorcycle if the Norge is totaled.
Wahoo - she's a keeper 😁
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GET A LAWYER. Go to a Doctor!
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Get the Photon P3 (http://www.lights.skenedesign.com/) LED stop lights w/ controller.
These things are BRIGHT and also flash when your brake is first applied. They also have a version that adds turn signal function, and (also included in the base model) have a hazard light mode, great for bikes without hazard lights.
I just added these to my F800GT, and am so impressed with them that I want them on all my bikes.
And, for those looks-conscious people, they're quite inconspicuous when the bike is turned off.
Biggest fear on bike is being hit from behind ... happened once and fear has grown greater ... pls go to hospital, later Insurance and Police take notice of this, a LOT of notice.
re; flashing rear brake lamps - the only people impressed by them is the person installing them because the NICE morons who do not stop IN TIME are everywhere ... if they actually
LOOK they too may be impressed by the flashing stop lamps.
Its not just mobile phones locodrivers look at the most inappropriate moment, it's the clock, the radio, the NAV, the rear mirror, the vanity mirror, the people on the sidewalk on and on
I'd better stop ranting ... BTW I still ride murdercycles, recently fitted 2nd LED rear brake lamp, very impressive!
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A bit of an update: I still feel well, certainly no worse for the wear. I could attribute it to good luck or being in decent shape for my age, but I think instead that it was a miracle. It was not my time to go.
Rick at Moto Guzzi Portland has been looking at my Norge. He's tallied up over $9,000 in needed bits and repairs, and that is without even opening it up and checking beneath all the plastic. The other driver's insurance company has accepted full responsibility and will probably total it. Oh well, time for something different!
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glad your ok. Got enough good parts there you could make a bobber :grin:
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No hospital? No doctor? Be ready to suck it up later should something be wrong. I personally have seen injuries in car rear-enders appear later on. Because it was no treated earlier, it was a bigger deal. And employers health plan said it was accident related and they wanted the other insurance to pay. Mean while, lawyer get involved and the patient has to struggle with medical bills and treatment.
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Jeff,
Glad you're OK; too bad about that gorgeous Norge, though. When you say time for something different, was there something about the Norge that didn't fit the bill for you, or are you just someone who likes variety? I'm asking from the standpoint of someone who might consider a new Norge.
BTW, last year my jackal was totaled in a rear-ender; I guess these incidents are fairly common.
Keep us posted about your replacement,
Jon
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I think, for the winter, I will drive a new BMW. I just put a deposit down on a 228i xDrive coupe. Once the Norge is totaled in the next few days, I will complete the purchase.
I really like the Norge, but we are heading into bad weather here in Oregon. That combined with my new, lengthy commute, the occasionally horrendous traffic, and the always idiotic cagers in Oregon has made me (and my wife!) reconsider my initial decision to immediately replace the Norge and continue battling it out on dark, wet roads.
Still, I have my eye on a new Cal Touring, or Stelvio, or V7 II...
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Glad you are okay. We have that same problem here in Wisconsin, you generally need a car in the winter. Good move on your part.
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UPDATE: USAA and I have reached an agreement. They are buying my Norge and are picking it up tomorrow from MG PDX. I'm sad. I really liked that bike. Oh, well, on to something new...
My wife is not very keen on me replacing the Norge with another motorcycle just yet. She would rather I buy a car first (since I don't currently have a car, cars are safer, motorcycles are more dangerous, winter is coming, etc.). I find myself thinking about how I could swing both--a car, and another Moto Guzzi...
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I find myself thinking about how I could swing both--a car, and another Moto Guzzi...
I see a couple of Vespa's in your signature that could be "culled" to swing a Guzzi......... :wink:
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^ Ha! I thought of that, but we really need two Vespas for marital harmony and fun.
You see, my wife got a Vespa when I had a Ducati. She then thought she wanted a motorcycle so we could ride together (but not on the same bike), so she got a Triumph Bonneville. However, she rarely rode the Bonneville. It was much more difficult for her to ride than the Vespa. Consequently, we traded the Bonneville for another Vespa. Now we can ride Vespas together. It really is great fun!
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Why not do something like a moderate project bike plus car? Like, something that'd be rideable with just some TLC and maybe some replacement parts here and there, and that you keep working on and customizing and stuff? Dunno, that'd be what I'd do if I had a sturdy ride as a principle conveyance, teach myself maintenance and mod work in my menial spare time.
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^ That's a good idea, but we no longer have a garage! We recently sold our modern house in suburban, upscale Lake Oswego and moved to an old (1896) farm house out in the country (Hubbard).
Our "driveway" is now gravel and dirt between the farm house and a horse riding arena! When working on my Norge, I would park it in the back yard, on the grass and dirt, between the house and the hazelnut orchard... Grass and dirt all over my tools...
No, I need something that is ready to go and ready to withstand the elements. (I have Vespa outdoor covers for the Vespas, and I plan to park them this winter under the overhanging roof of the shed next to the farm house.)
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Hold out, some very interesting bikes are on the horizon. Good deal on USAA buying the Norge, let someone else deal with a project.
That sometimes commute you have warrants a car, your wife is on to something there.
If you keep riding that route and get another bike for that, consider the FJR or ST1300, would really hustle. A new Trophy would be nice too, great engines on both of them.
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^ I am pretty sure I am first going to buy the car that Kuni BMW is holding for me (with my deposit, of course!):
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Then I will go after another Moto Guzzi (perhaps another Norge!).
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That's a nice ride! Sure will make the miles go by faster.
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^ That's a good idea, but we no longer have a garage! We recently sold our modern house in suburban, upscale Lake Oswego and moved to an old (1896) farm house out in the country (Hubbard).
Our "driveway" is now gravel and dirt between the farm house and a horse riding arena! When working on my Norge, I would park it in the back yard, on the grass and dirt, between the house and the hazelnut orchard... Grass and dirt all over my tools...
No, I need something that is ready to go and ready to withstand the elements. (I have Vespa outdoor covers for the Vespas, and I plan to park them this winter under the overhanging roof of the shed next to the farm house.)
Got it, so looks like you're building a shed/barn/garage next then eh? :D Here's a guide for ya (http://www.instructables.com/id/Building-a-DIY-Complete-Workshop/), or maybe you want to browse some of these other plans (http://www.toolcrib.com/blog/2008/11/build-your-dream-workshop-23-free-workshop-and-shed-plans)? That sounds like a fun project with cascading benefits down the line!
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^ I am pretty sure I am first going to buy the car that Kuni BMW is holding for me (with my deposit, of course!):
Then I will go after another Moto Guzzi (perhaps another Norge!).
Well, you need a car (but a new one?) and you want a Norge (perfectly reasonable) and you will then need a garage. That's what finance is for. (assuming you have an income to pay it back with)
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The farm house is temporary lodging, until perhaps next summer. We are remodeling our old beach cabin, and I am hoping my wife will like it so much that we can move up there full time next summer. Here's a "toolshed" (bunk house, wink wink) that I am building there on the property:
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Maybe if I added a ramp I could get bikes in there...
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Just a suggestion one I've made many times before to people looking for a cheap bike that can also tour like a bastard. Aprilia Mana GT They are so absurdly cheap, especially low mileage second hand, that buying one is a no brainer. As a commuter they are second to none. as a touring bike, with luggage, I honestly think they are possibly the best bike ever. The impact on the wallet would be so low as to make it a virtually fre option even if you only use it in good weather.
Pete
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^ That's a good idea, Pete, and I have thought about it. Moto International is selling a new 2013 for $5,999 (plus freight and set-up): https://www.motointernational.com/catalog/aprilia-motorcycles/new-2013-aprilia-mana-850-gt-abs (https://www.motointernational.com/catalog/aprilia-motorcycles/new-2013-aprilia-mana-850-gt-abs).
That is a ridiculously low price!
(https://www.motointernational.com/ecom_img/original-1616-2127-white2013managtreduced5200.jpg)
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A lot of people who are initially dismissive go out and ride a Mana and are amazed! No, it's not a bike for everyone but to dismiss it out of hand is an act of pathetic stupidity. It really is a fantastic, fun, tool and when Jude and I were touring the US in 2013 on the Cali 1400 we kept finding ourselves thinking "I wish we were on the Mana". Really, not to denigrate the Cali 14 but that's really the way we felt! They're that good!
Do though ride one before you buy.
Pete
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Maybe a fly and ride for a new Norge?
http://newsletters.proitalia.com/t/ViewEmail/y/60AAAE5262B85549/1E38515DC8A8AFF8B4B1B1F623478121
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When I was renting a place with no garage one option I seriously considered as an alternative was a descent sized tent. Not ideal I know, but it would at least prove shelter for the bike and a place to work on things. I wouldn't keep things like tools in one but it also had the virtue of being able to take it away and set up elsewhere if needed when I moved.