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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kent in Upstate NY on September 17, 2015, 10:18:40 PM
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2011 low mileage. (http://az726000.vo.msecnd.net/products/USA/HD/2011/MC/SPORT/SPORTSTER_/50/BLACK_DENIM/2000000001.jpg)
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That the one with the adjustable suspension? I wouldn't kick her out of my garage.
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If I was somehow forced to own a harley, that would probably be the one I'd put in my garage.
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You are not helping. :laugh:
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No help here. I can't think of a reason to not buy it...
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A couple of buddies have owned these since new, both still like them. Lots of aftermarket available.
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I can't help you.
Think Harley Griso, or the closest thing to a Buell they ever built (that wasn't a Buell).
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Itty bitty tank looks stupid?
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Had the 09 model, kind of the same feel as my MG 1200 sport, they IMHO are very nice bikes with a lot of grunt, had no problem selling mine when the time came, would like to of kept it :bike-037:
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I'd add that to the garage in a heartbeat.
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I can't help you.
Think Harley Griso, or the closest thing to a Buell they ever built (that wasn't a Buell).
It's a fat Buell, :grin: People rag on Sportsters .. I think they are fine....If you like the styling then go for it..
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2011 low mileage. (http://az726000.vo.msecnd.net/products/USA/HD/2011/MC/SPORT/SPORTSTER_/50/BLACK_DENIM/2000000001.jpg)
I'll give you two...
(http://databikes.com/imgs/a/b/t/d/z/moto_guzzi__griso_8v_se_2009_1_lgw.jpg)
(https://public-ch3302.files.1drv.com/y3pw37oNXICV62F4NKSCwqElVATSyayqQkWUPUJj8X2uEA65JveHlRP6CzV27HZZ5NNGeJ-smSfyBcM3m6LmBzuIvNilv22vmQlP4PuGB2FLWsXHPFwUC0gtXJicwDp5K4v/BMW-R-NineT-5.jpg?rdrts=117197589)
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XR1200X
I've been tempted more than once too. I had decided on an orange left over at a local dealer but, thankfully, it was sold by the time I got back to them.
Great fun. Handles good for its weight. Lots of add-on upgrades available. A Man's Bike.
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When I traded my 1200 Sport for the Stelvio, I was looking around (as I always am, like a rat on crack when it comes to motorcycles) and my dealer had a XR1200X that he had me test ride. My impressions were very similar ergonomics to the 1200 Sport, except the steering was quite a bit heavier. Enough to be a turn-off on a bike that has any pretense of sportiness. Didn't set up as high on the bike as a Griso, so to me the Griso is a much more aggressive riding position (again different body shapes and all). Also the small tank (which has been mentioned), lack of luggage capability (which can be overcome but not very seamlessly as the Sport), and the seat is not nearly as comfortable. And I still just can't bond with the tight "V" twin, long stroke engine architecture, despite the loads of torque it put out right off idle (that's just a me thing and shouldn't apply to others). I do like the feel of a 90 degree "V" twin with a more squared bore and stroke.
At the end it was kind of a "blah" because I was comparing it to the 1200 Sport, which I still think is quite an over-achiever.
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Whatever floats you boat, very good choice if you want a sportster. The R9T is getting bashed for the non adjustable front forks, and it has a little more lean forward riding position. The sportster looks very standard, while the Griso is somewhere in between. Won't go into the whole dealer network thing, but I wouldn't trade my griso for either of the two mentioned, although I have not ridden that particular sportster. Can't see any reason not to own it , you only live once. dave
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No reasons not to buy. Mine was a blast. I geared it up so that it was less buzzy and upgraded the shocks. I wish I had had the room to keep it.
It didn't have much suspension so it would give you a pounding on a rough road, but it was a hoot and handled very well within its design parameters.
However, I have to say the Griso has it beat on every count except sheer visceral gnarliness . . .
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Immediate deal breaker for me? The retractable side stand that is to hard for my short legs to deploy with out getting off! Good feel in the showroom otherwise.
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Itty bitty tank looks stupid?
Nah, that tank LOOKS perfect. It is on the small side, but after 150 miles you're probably ready to get off.
Then again, a friend of mine posted earlier this week that he was on his for 9 hours on Sunday.
It's a fat Buell, :grin: People rag on Sportsters .. I think they are fine....If you like the styling then go for it..
What does that make a Griso, a Fat Ducati?
Personally I think this really is the closest thing to a tube-frame Buell (like my old S3T) that Harley themselves ever built.
Of course the S3T was brilliant in a lot of ways, great fairing, almost 6 gallon tank for lots of range.
I got really close to buying a denim white XRX - but I had the Stone on order at the time and I didn't want to give up the Stone.
I'm glad I didn't, but part of me wishes I had the XRX also.
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I've had two of these - the original XR1200 and then the XR1200X.
Whoever said it's 'a fat Buell' is talking out of their hat (no offence).
I've owned half a dozen Buells from an S1 through to an XB12, and there is no comparison apart from Harley owned both companies, and the same basic engine was used in both.
But it is what Buell and Harley did with those engines that sets them so very far apart.
A simple test ride on both will prove that point.
Anyway, the Harley is probably the best 'out of the box' performer they've ever produced.
Despite it's weight it handles really well.
I did a couple of bike tours in Europe with friends on GSXRs, Milles, etc, and I can say that the XR did NOT disgrace itself.
Like most Harley Sportsters, you can push these beyond what you think they're capable of, and as long as you have respect for that big grunty V-twin, you'll have a ball.
If you've ridden Harleys before, you'll find the XR's brakes, handling and grunt are a revelation.
Get a test ride, and see if it suits your riding style!
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well they don't make Buells anymore so get that!
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I'm not much of a HD person, but I have to admit, that looks very nice, and could be a contender if I were looking to add a bike to the stable. Sorry, no points on why NOT to buy...
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What does that make a Griso, a Fat Ducati?
Personally I think this really is the closest thing to a tube-frame Buell (like my old S3T) that Harley themselves ever built.
Of course the S3T was brilliant in a lot of ways, great fairing, almost 6 gallon tank for lots of range.
Kev. my 97 Cyclone weighs 440 pounds...the Harley and the Griso are over 500 ...So to me they are fat :wink:
I do like the XR...but not the large black mufflers....But then again I'm not in the market for buying one..
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Kev. my 97 Cyclone weighs 440 pounds...the Harley and the Griso are over 500 ...So to me they are fat :wink:
Cyclone is a different animal... but BTW - MCN disagrees and thinks your Cyclone (at least stock) weighed about 469 wet.
"Handles OK for a Harley" seems to be a common theme , how do they handle as another brand ?
Dusty
Sometimes I think people confuse handling (ability) with feel.
They HANDLE very well, but yes, steering effort is higher than many would be used to.
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Kev I have the slim tank Buell S1, and everything else seems lardy in comparison. :laugh:
The XR handles better than 'alright', but can't be compared to modern cutting edge motorcycles (does that exclude MGs? :wink:).
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Cyclone is a different animal... but BTW - MCN disagrees and thinks your Cyclone (at least stock) weighed about 469 wet.
Sometimes I think people confuse handling (ability) with feel.
They HANDLE very well, but yes, steering effort is higher than many would be used to.
Yes, probably 470 stock wet......But mine is a bit lighter with the 3 gallon tank and some junk missing.......I think many have negative opinions about Harleys based on the old AMF stuff and wife's tales.
(http://i.imgur.com/ABIzYWk.jpg)
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Kev I have the slim tank Buell S1, and everything else seems lardy in comparison. :laugh:
Ride a V7 or a baby Monster (air-cooled) :wink:
The XR handles better than 'alright', but can't be compared to modern cutting edge motorcycles (does that exclude MGs? :wink:).
Yes, that excludes MG.
I think many have negative opinions about Harleys based on the old AMF stuff and wife's tales.
FAR too many do, far too many.
Love my Sporty.
It's heavier and makes less power than my S3T did, but it fits what I want better.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/e--2A8gwTueJiM9SC7WctDLlBn-6wFZ7JvqW003OtxbvOqZM2P5pGiF0kgqRAOZLyeN79sBEcTzk8eQ9iaO_zrb0KnODXYU-5FniniBHqKyhCjPkbhGzubqrFXi3cIw5QLKflpNLao_qAzMbZyqNX51JA2uVNdyqTuUBUQ9HU6WJDwPenVAKopJ5wMNX7Zww1W0XU5ORwBa8xrurZ-z8-XKTlXip2MVSt1cEp5ICN5NE2--moP3WQg8z2koJTZ9sCgiocuC5U7HXpN7ugzjiHOLb4BYoxW0t8Q7mX-w44IMbW3NP8HTXGZ6LAn39AZTW8Z740JBIpIKjYNUbb6MRSbs74uKpFLt6NpdIqMbnPdzdducbmFhYs1hPETTI9mNmovTx44hIaA5YvvtJnPTJGqkR4FqLyVie7a6Eeyd1gDvMmI0M6hlHuXxChVS4BvovNuuma61eqKeRTFH0PR9Og1k2NrQyDgL90NiuymkcSf-e71JHj7WmiJZu53GojVmNZmoD6AFp3fFYWICWfPT_FcKDYHMimbyg61sq53FDgOM=w568-h320-no)
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I am not a Sporty fan but I'd sure like to ride an XR.
I did ride one of these
(http://databikes.com/imgs/a/b/b/b/d/harley_davidson__with_xr1000_sportster_5520_miles_dirt_tracker_1984_15_lgw.jpg)
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Yup, I have ridden a V7, it does physically feel small, but doesn't look as small as it feels (hope that makes sense!).
But the S1 has it beat size-wise, because of the miniscule seat!!! It's only slightly bigger than a bicycle seat and as uncomfortable as a bicycle racing seat. The slim S1 was affectionately nick-named the razorback for that very reason!!!
If I knew how to post piccies on here, I'd post up my S1. :grin:
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Yup, I have ridden a V7, it does physically feel small, but doesn't look as small as it feels (hope that makes sense!).
But the S1 has it beat size-wise, because of the miniscule seat!!! It's only slightly bigger than a bicycle seat and as uncomfortable as a bicycle racing seat. The slim S1 was affectionately nick-named the razorback for that very reason!!!
If I knew how to post piccies on here, I'd post up my S1. :grin:
I guess my point was I can't see how a V7 or M696 would seem "lardy" next to an S1 (not visually, but by feel).
Man, you know what felt tiny, my VT500 Ascott - that was just too small to me.
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more fat for the fire..... whatever...
http://www.jamesrussellpublishing.biz/sportster1200.html
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I am not a Sporty fan but I'd sure like to ride an XR.
I did ride one of these
(http://databikes.com/imgs/a/b/b/b/d/harley_davidson__with_xr1000_sportster_5520_miles_dirt_tracker_1984_15_lgw.jpg)
You did have to post that picture! I had an XR1000 new in 1984 (yeah I'm an older guy...) It was a blast but I did have to rejet the Dellortos. Factory jetting was way off. Otherwise a neat period bike.
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I am not a Sporty fan but I'd sure like to ride an XR.
I did ride one of these
(http://databikes.com/imgs/a/b/b/b/d/harley_davidson__with_xr1000_sportster_5520_miles_dirt_tracker_1984_15_lgw.jpg)
I still want one of those. A brute, for sure, but would be fun as a play bike.
Last one I saw for sale was at Michael's Motorcycles in St. Louis. They come up occasionally.
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You did have to post that picture! I had an XR1000 new in 1984 (yeah I'm an older guy...) It was a blast but I did have to rejet the Dellortos. Factory jetting was way off. Otherwise a neat period bike.
Yeah, the test ride was a disappointment (compared to my Yamaha Seca 550). I would imagine it was corked up and needed a jet and pipes to get going.
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I'm no Harley fan by any means, but I do like a few of their bikes, and the XR1200/X are my favorite bikes of theirs; a white XR1200X is my #1.
(http://moto.zombdrive.com/images/harleydavidson-xr1200-5.jpg)
Should I ever find myself with a Harley in the garage, it'll be that one.
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I owned a bought-new 2000 Reactor Yellow M2 Cyclone for a decade, and a 2006 Sportster Custom for a few years. Same basic motor but boy did they feel different! The Sporty pulled off the bottom like a winch, while the Cyclone needed some revs before it was happy, but third gear from 40 - 65 mph on a twisty road was sweet indeed. Liked 'em both....
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You already know the reason. If you buy it you'll regret it.
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more fat for the fire..... whatever...
http://www.jamesrussellpublishing.biz/sportster1200.html
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That guy is such an idiot in embarrassed he actually likes the Sportster. :violent1:
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I would be perfectly ok with that Harley model inhabiting my garage.
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A Breva 750 is sort of like a cross between a John Deere and this Sporty. Any of the three are OK w/me. That said, the old AMF stuff was some of the worst machinery ever built. Since the family bought it back, they make bikes that actually work.
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I've ridden one. It's one of only two HDs I'd own (the other is the dirt-track replica). Reasons not to: It has a 5-speed and needs a 6. Stock, it's a bit underpowered for the kind of bike it is.
I probably would get a Buell instead, but I wouldn't pass one of these by at the right price.
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Not my cuppa from a styling standpoint (I hate black rims, and that stupid flat headlight looks like a feeble styling exercise, nothing more), but none of that really matters if YOU like the bike.
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Which family is that ? AMF takes a beating , but W/O their money HD would have folded up in about 1965 . It was AMF money that developed the Evo motors . Vaughn Beals was the major mover on the buyout , and had been running the MoCo since
1981 . HD fired the last member of the Harley family still working for them in the mid '90s .
Dusty
Willie G. Davidson.
"Willie was one of the Harley-Davidson executives who joined Vaughn Beals in buying Harley-Davidson from parent company American Machine and Foundry in 1981"
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Which family is that ? AMF takes a beating , but W/O their money HD would have folded up in about 1965 . It was AMF money that developed the Evo motors . Vaughn Beals was the major mover on the buyout , and had been running the MoCo since
1981 . HD fired the last member of the Harley family still working for them in the mid '90s .
Dusty
I had a '65 ElectraGlide, and there were no pinsetter parts in it.
I don't think HD got any AMF money until 1969 .....
Lannis
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Check out Stroz. They have some cool stuff for the X.