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Title: B-17 wreck found.
Post by: Stevex on October 03, 2015, 06:25:02 AM

Saw this today, thought some of you chaps may be interested.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/11907666/B-17-Flying-Fortress-bomber-found-on-seabed-off-Sicily.html

Title: Re: B-17 wreck found.
Post by: twodogs on October 03, 2015, 07:47:44 AM

Thanks. Here's to those Brave men, may they R.I.P.

Title: Re: B-17 wreck found.
Post by: oldbike54 on October 03, 2015, 08:04:36 AM

 Noticed the copilot was from Oklahoma , Maysville OK in fact , nothing more than a small village . RIP indeed .
 Still , cool that they located her , quite a find .

  Dusty

Title: Re: B-17 wreck found.
Post by: Stevex on October 03, 2015, 12:36:23 PM

Compare the effort put in to finding even a trace of aircraft that go missing today, with the fact that wrecks from WWII are still being found today.
Can't imagine a time when a crew would risk their lives on a daily basis and have to wait decades to be discovered, if shot down.

Title: Re: B-17 wreck found.
Post by: Arizona Wayne on October 03, 2015, 01:25:19 PM

Quote from: Stevex on October 03, 2015, 12:36:23 PM

Compare the effort put in to finding even a trace of aircraft that go missing today, with the fact that wrecks from WWII are still being found today.
Can't imagine a time when a crew would risk their lives on a daily basis and have to wait decades to be discovered, if shot down.

When you consider that back then hundreds of planes were on the same mission at a time..............n othing like now where just a few planes are on a mission and we have satellites & electronic communication to track them.

Title: Re: B-17 wreck found.
Post by: rbm on October 03, 2015, 07:56:00 PM

RIP.

Question though.  The article says "The reported ended: “Status for the above crew – Dead.”, however the photo shows DED, not Dead.  Is DED a military acronym for something?

Title: Re: B-17 wreck found.
Post by: ITSec on October 03, 2015, 08:10:48 PM

Quote from: rbm on October 03, 2015, 07:56:00 PM

RIP.

Question though.  The article says "The reported ended: �Status for the above crew � Dead.�, however the photo shows DED, not Dead.  Is DED a military acronym for something?

Good question - since the text above the crew list says 'no chutes were seen', I'd say the official stance would be that they had failed to return, and were presumed dead (rather than captured or missing) since their plane had been seen to be hit by enemy fire. A search of the usual sources fails to show a reasonable use for DED however...

Title: Re: B-17 wreck found.
Post by: Dogwalker on October 04, 2015, 03:18:05 AM

Quote from: rbm on October 03, 2015, 07:56:00 PM

Is DED a military acronym for something?

I think is an abbreviation for "deceased".