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Title: cancer avoidance
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on October 10, 2015, 12:39:59 AM
 Eat lots of peanuts, maybe even peanut butter if it is natural.
 NEVER has an elephant been diagnosed with cancer.  Scientists who are aware of this are now studying the phenomena.
Title: Re: cancer avoidance
Post by: Lotsahorses on October 10, 2015, 05:32:35 AM
Yeah, but you'll never get a helmet on again :cool:
Title: Re: cancer avoidance
Post by: Offcamber1 on October 10, 2015, 07:45:42 AM
I look at cancer avoidance this way...

There are three ways to treat cancer:

1. Surgery (remove cancer and some surrounding tissue; sometimes works.)

2. Radiation (nuke cancer cells to kill them with some collateral damage to surrounding tissue; also sometimes works.)

3. Chemotherapy (poison cancer cells to kill them with collateral damage to just about everything else in the body; always works if you dump enough poison into the bloodstream, but massive side effects of the poison to the rest of the body.)

So if you have read this far, please follow along.

What is alcohol?  Well alcohol is most assuredly poison.  So if you drink enough alcohol (poison) each day you kill the cancer cells before they get a chance to multiply and spread.

Think about it; Micky Mantle, Richard Burton, Dylan Thomas and many others consumed mass quantities of alcohol each day and not one of them died of cancer.

The only side effects of this pre-treatment method are cirrhosis of the liver, memory loss, hangovers, and having lots of fun during your short life.

You decide!
Title: Re: cancer avoidance
Post by: Gian4 on October 10, 2015, 09:27:03 AM
Mantle had liver cancer otherwise its a good theory. :boozing:
Gian4
Title: Re: cancer avoidance
Post by: bad Chad on October 10, 2015, 09:33:38 AM
I think your gooffin on us,right?  Peanuts cannot possibly make up a significant fraction of an elephants diet in the wild. Are peanuts even native to Africa?
Title: Re: cancer avoidance
Post by: Lannis on October 10, 2015, 09:35:05 AM
I think your gooffin on us,right?  Peanuts cannot possibly make up a significant fraction of an elephants diet in the wild. Are peanuts even native to Africa?

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Title: Re: cancer avoidance
Post by: redrider90 on October 10, 2015, 09:44:51 AM
The only peanuts elephants get are those poor elephants that are incarcerated in zoos. Peanuts are native to south and central America and Mexico.
From the BBC article on why elephants do not get cancer.  Totally non Guzzi stuff but quite interesting science in its own right.
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-34466220

"The scientists turned to the elephant's DNA - the blueprint of life - to find an explanation.
Cancer is caused by mutations in a cell's DNA that produce faulty instructions leading to rampant growth as the cell spirals out of control,
But animals also have "smoke alarms" that detect the damage and either lead to the cell being repaired or killed.
One of these alarms is called TP53, and while humans have one TP53 gene, elephants have 20.

As a result, elephants seem far more keen to kill off cells on the cusp of going rogue.
Dr Joshua Schiffman, one of the researchers and a paediatric oncologist, said: "By all logical reasoning, elephants should be developing a tremendous amount of cancer, and in fact, should be extinct by now due to such a high risk for cancer".
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Title: Re: cancer avoidance
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on October 10, 2015, 11:38:24 AM
 Bbut they have more tp53 genes because they eat peanuts.
As for elephants in the wild not eating peanuts,  whether or not this is true you must know the elephants in the wild don't go to doctors so it is not known if they get cancer, and you don't want to try to give one a prostate exam in the wild.

I think doctors cause cancer.  If you never go to a doctor you will never be diagnosed with cancer.
Title: Re: cancer avoidance
Post by: jrt on October 10, 2015, 12:28:15 PM
That didn't work out so well for Warren Zevon.

Enjoy every sandwich...
Title: Re: cancer avoidance
Post by: Offcamber1 on October 10, 2015, 03:34:06 PM
Mantle had liver cancer otherwise its a good theory. :boozing:
Gian4

In his first liver, or the replacement? 

I think we need a tongue-in-cheek emoticon.
Title: Re: cancer avoidance
Post by: 56Pan on October 10, 2015, 03:56:05 PM
The only peanuts elephants get are those poor elephants that are incarcerated in zoos. Peanuts are native to south and central America and Mexico.
From the BBC article on why elephants do not get cancer.  Totally non Guzzi stuff but quite interesting science in its own right.
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-34466220

"The scientists turned to the elephant's DNA - the blueprint of life - to find an explanation.
Cancer is caused by mutations in a cell's DNA that produce faulty instructions leading to rampant growth as the cell spirals out of control,
But animals also have "smoke alarms" that detect the damage and either lead to the cell being repaired or killed.
One of these alarms is called TP53, and while humans have one TP53 gene, elephants have 20.

As a result, elephants seem far more keen to kill off cells on the cusp of going rogue.
Dr Joshua Schiffman, one of the researchers and a paediatric oncologist, said: "By all logical reasoning, elephants should be developing a tremendous amount of cancer, and in fact, should be extinct by now due to such a high risk for cancer".
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"As a result, elephants seem far more keen to kill off cells on the cusp of going rogue.
Dr Joshua Schiffman, one of the researchers and a paediatric oncologist, said: '"By all logical reasoning, elephants should be developing a tremendous amount of cancer, and in fact, should be extinct by now due to such a high risk for cancer"'.

? I don't understand the statement by this Dr. Schiffman?  Isn't his reasoning backwards?
Title: Re: cancer avoidance
Post by: redrider90 on October 11, 2015, 07:09:12 PM

"As a result, elephants seem far more keen to kill off cells on the cusp of going rogue.
Dr Joshua Schiffman, one of the researchers and a paediatric oncologist, said: '"By all logical reasoning, elephants should be developing a tremendous amount of cancer, and in fact, should be extinct by now due to such a high risk for cancer"'.

? I don't understand the statement by this Dr. Schiffman?  Isn't his reasoning backwards?


Not if you read the article. Elephants should have higher incidence of cancer that humans because they have some many more cells that can go haywire. The larger the animal the more cells it has and the greater chance of cancer.
Title: Re: cancer avoidance
Post by: Ralph Plant on October 11, 2015, 07:24:53 PM
Pretty funny post if you've never had ,or lost anyone to cancer.
Title: Re: cancer avoidance
Post by: 56Pan on October 11, 2015, 08:10:07 PM

Not if you read the article. Elephants should have higher incidence of cancer that humans because they have some many more cells that can go haywire. The larger the animal the more cells it has and the greater chance of cancer.

Makes sense.  Didn't read the article.  I guess whales would have a high incidence of cancer by his logic then.
Title: Re: cancer avoidance
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on October 11, 2015, 11:22:36 PM
  Because they seldom eat peanuts.
Title: Re: cancer avoidance
Post by: Muzz on October 12, 2015, 03:14:44 AM
Seriously, this very topic was on our news this evening.  Seems like most humans have two genes that will recognise and initiate an attack on cancer cells.  Seems like elephants have 42 of the same gene.  Some oncologist is getting real excited about that.  Sorry Jim, his theory did not include peanuts.